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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,369
    Timber sycamore is a funny covert name but if you didn’t know that the CIA was arming and training rebels, including those with Al Qaeda ties, you haven’t been paying attention. But thanks for the news flash that my enemy of my enemy is my friend. Would love to see Team Trump Treason hold a presser and try to explain the current Administration’s Syria policy and the intricacies of the Middle East without stating, “there was no collusion.” What do you think 3D, should I hold my breath?
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,876
    polaris_x said:
    seriously ... what would a pro-trump, pro conservative news station have to gain about lying about their reporting?



    Here's my response to this. They didn't even get to the site either. The government let them get a few blocks away, but yet the OPCW is stranded and unable to get there. Hmmm, I wonder why? What would make the Syrian govt let someone with OANN see certain things and talk to a select group of citizens who all support Assad. Ironic.


    It's a hopeless situation...
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    tbergs said:
    polaris_x said:
    seriously ... what would a pro-trump, pro conservative news station have to gain about lying about their reporting?



    Here's my response to this. They didn't even get to the site either. The government let them get a few blocks away, but yet the OPCW is stranded and unable to get there. Hmmm, I wonder why? What would make the Syrian govt let someone with OANN see certain things and talk to a select group of citizens who all support Assad. Ironic.


    A valid question is why hasn't OPCW been allowed to inspect? I don't know the answer only that the Syrian gov't claimed that the inspectors didn't have proper permits and the sites had to be cleared. Maybe polaris can better answer the question. In any case this doesn't prove the attack happened (refer to DNC servers never inspected by Feds).

    https://www.opcw.org/fileadmin/OPCW/EC/M-59/en/ecm59dg02_e_.pdf

  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    You guys realize JIM (Joint Investigative Mechanism), the collaboration between OPCW and the UN, have clearly stated Syria used chemicals weapons... several times... 

    This is a fact
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,369
    my2hands said:
    You guys realize JIM (Joint Investigative Mechanism), the collaboration between OPCW and the UN, have clearly stated Syria used chemicals weapons... several times... 

    This is a fact
    Not in YouTubelandia. Or Moscow.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,337
    Nobody has been able to give an explanation as to what the mainstream media has to gain by propping up this conspiracy by western governments.....not to mention explaining what western governments have to gain from this conspiracy.

  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    On the flipside, it's pretty obvious what Assad The Peacemaker and Putin The Saviour have to gain from the misinformation campaign

    I've got a bridge to sell somebody 
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,337
    my2hands said:
    On the flipside, it's pretty obvious what Assad The Peacemaker and Putin The Saviour have to gain from the misinformation campaign

    I've got a bridge to sell somebody 
    That's just it. When you stand back and look at the whole picture, this conspiracy, like most, makes no sense.

  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    tbergs said:
    polaris_x said:
    seriously ... what would a pro-trump, pro conservative news station have to gain about lying about their reporting?



    Here's my response to this. They didn't even get to the site either. The government let them get a few blocks away, but yet the OPCW is stranded and unable to get there. Hmmm, I wonder why? What would make the Syrian govt let someone with OANN see certain things and talk to a select group of citizens who all support Assad. Ironic.


    the most important aspect of investigating a chemical attack are eyewitnesses ... we now have significant testimonyy from not only civilians in the area and the doctors who treated the so called attack ... all aligning saying no attack happened ... so, the pro-trump news network claims that they are interviewing random people and you don't believe them ... independent journalists there are also saying the same thing ... but don't believe them either?
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    On the flipside, it's pretty obvious what Assad The Peacemaker and Putin The Saviour have to gain from the misinformation campaign

    I've got a bridge to sell somebody 
    That's just it. When you stand back and look at the whole picture, this conspiracy, like most, makes no sense.

    i'm not sure how you can say that ...

    what "conspiracies" do we know to be true?

    1. the motive and lies to go into iraq
    2.  the motive and lies to go into libya
    3.  the motive and lies to go into kuwait

    I don't really care that you guys don't believe me ... but to say it makes no sense is just not intellectually honest ... western nations have lied in countless scenarios to initiate regime change ... and yet it's not even plausible to you guys?
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    dignin said:
    Nobody has been able to give an explanation as to what the mainstream media has to gain by propping up this conspiracy by western governments.....not to mention explaining what western governments have to gain from this conspiracy.

    i would say some msm outlets simply do not know they are reporting lies ... the sources for much of the information the msm gets is the same ... fake humanitarian groups, terrorists groups ... look at the BBC documentary where someone showed that they relied on information while being embedded with a terrorist group ... re:  BBC ... it's board members contained people in the arms manufacturing industry ...

    how many reports are based on the "white helmets" ... fuck, these guys actually won an oscar ... that should tell you right there how pervasive this is ...
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    an example of how this message is being controlled ...



  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    tbergs said:
    polaris_x said:
    seriously ... what would a pro-trump, pro conservative news station have to gain about lying about their reporting?



    Here's my response to this. They didn't even get to the site either. The government let them get a few blocks away, but yet the OPCW is stranded and unable to get there. Hmmm, I wonder why? What would make the Syrian govt let someone with OANN see certain things and talk to a select group of citizens who all support Assad. Ironic.


    https://www.activistfacts.com/organizations/528-center-for-american-progress/

    gov't and state sponsored... 

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,369
    polaris_x said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    On the flipside, it's pretty obvious what Assad The Peacemaker and Putin The Saviour have to gain from the misinformation campaign

    I've got a bridge to sell somebody 
    That's just it. When you stand back and look at the whole picture, this conspiracy, like most, makes no sense.

    i'm not sure how you can say that ...

    what "conspiracies" do we know to be true?

    1. the motive and lies to go into iraq
    2.  the motive and lies to go into libya
    3.  the motive and lies to go into kuwait

    I don't really care that you guys don't believe me ... but to say it makes no sense is just not intellectually honest ... western nations have lied in countless scenarios to initiate regime change ... and yet it's not even plausible to you guys?
    The lies are not about regime change. Stop conflating and confusing the issues as they relate to Syria. They don’t all add up to one big giant ball of conspiracy theories and innocence on behalf of Assad and putin.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,369
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    why no outcry in yemen where western funded arms is being used for a genocide? ... where are the faux humanitarian groups? ... where is the msm? ... a so called chemical attack in syria is like getting bit by a mosquito compared to what's happening in yemen ... but nothing ... no special segments ... no front page news ... no scathing report on saudi arabia ... why is that?



  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    my2hands said:
    You guys realize JIM (Joint Investigative Mechanism), the collaboration between OPCW and the UN, have clearly stated Syria used chemicals weapons... several times... 

    This is a fact
    The US has used chemical weapons, fact, the US has overthrown foreign governments based on lies, also fact.
    The discussion is about the alleged chemical attack on April 8th and the US/UK/Saudi/israel response to it.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    dignin said:
    Nobody has been able to give an explanation as to what the mainstream media has to gain by propping up this conspiracy by western governments.....not to mention explaining what western governments have to gain from this conspiracy.

    no one has been able to give an explanation why the "allied forces" are so concerned with 4,000 or 5,000 Syrians yet have no concern about 1,000,000s of Yemenis?
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,337
    polaris_x said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    On the flipside, it's pretty obvious what Assad The Peacemaker and Putin The Saviour have to gain from the misinformation campaign

    I've got a bridge to sell somebody 
    That's just it. When you stand back and look at the whole picture, this conspiracy, like most, makes no sense.

    i'm not sure how you can say that ...

    what "conspiracies" do we know to be true?

    1. the motive and lies to go into iraq
    2.  the motive and lies to go into libya
    3.  the motive and lies to go into kuwait

    I don't really care that you guys don't believe me ... but to say it makes no sense is just not intellectually honest ... western nations have lied in countless scenarios to initiate regime change ... and yet it's not even plausible to you guys?
    Where was the conspiracy in those examples? Especially involving mainstream media?
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,337
    polaris_x said:
    why no outcry in yemen where western funded arms is being used for a genocide? ... where are the faux humanitarian groups? ... where is the msm? ... a so called chemical attack in syria is like getting bit by a mosquito compared to what's happening in yemen ... but nothing ... no special segments ... no front page news ... no scathing report on saudi arabia ... why is that?



    Mosquito?

    500,000 killed? 7.6 Million displaced and over 5 Million refugees?

    Like I said, stand back and gain some perspective. 
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,337

    Syria war: The online activists pushing conspiracy theories

    As the investigation continues into another alleged chemical attack in Syria, one group of influential online activists is busy spreading their version of events.

    Inspectors from the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) are attempting to access the previously rebel-held town of Douma, where medical organisations and rescue workers say President Bashar al-Assad's forces dropped bombs filled with toxic chemicals in an attack on 7 April, killing more than 40 people.

    The Syrian government and its key ally, Russia, say the incident was staged. But the US, UK and France - who support the opposition to Mr Assad - say they are confident that chlorine and possibly a nerve agent were used.

    Despite the uncertainty about what happened in Douma, a cluster of influential social media activists is certain that it knows what occurred on 7 April.

    They've seized on a theory being floated by Russian officials and state-owned media outlets that the attacks were "staged" or were a "false flag" operation, carried out by jihadist groups or spies in order to put the blame on the Assad government and provide a justification for Western intervention.

    The group includes activists and people who call themselves "independent journalists", and several have Twitter followings reaching into the tens or hundreds of thousands.

    The activists call themselves "anti-war", but as they generally back the Syrian government's military operations against rebel forces seeking to overthrow Mr Assad and Russian air strikes carried out in support, it might be more accurate to describe them as "anti-Western intervention" or "pro-Syrian government".

    According to their narrative, international media organisations across the political spectrum, along with human rights organisations, are somehow covertly aligned with Western governments, Saudi Arabia, the Islamic State group and al-Qaeda and taking part in a secretive plot to take over Syria.

    Header image for Vanessa Beeleys Twitter accountImage copyrightTWITTER/@VANESSABEELEY

    The network of activists includes people like Vanessa Beeley. She has more than 30,000 Twitter followers and writes for a news outlet that the website Media Bias/Fact Check calls a "conspiracy and conjecture site" that has "an extreme right bias".

    In response to a list of questions, she called BBC Trending's story a "blatant attempt" to "silence independent journalism" and repeated unsubstantiated claims about alleged chemical weapons attacks.

    Tweet by Vanessa Beeley US  UK are running a psychological warfare campaign supported by their fawning media incl BBC CNN Guardian Channel4 to subject Syrian people to further trauma after 7 years of punishing terrorist war waged by USUK alliance against innocent civilians EnoughImage copyrightTWITTER/@VANESSABEELEY

    Influential accounts

    Beeley gives talks to fringe groups and makes appearances on media outlets including state-owned Russian channel RT.

    But in the online conversation about Syria there are more influential activists, about whom much less is known.

    Sarah Abdallah (@sahouraxo on Twitter) has more than 125,000 followers, among them more than 250 journalists from mainstream media outlets. Her follower count is comparable to BBC journalists who regularly report on Syria, such as BBC Middle East Editor Jeremy Bowen (167,000) and BBC Chief International Correspondent Lyse Doucet (142,000).

    In addition to pictures of herself, Sarah Abdallah tweets constant pro-Russia and pro-Assad messages, with a dollop of retweeting mostly aimed at attacking Barack Obama, other US Democrats and Saudi Arabia.

    In her Twitter profile she describes herself as an "Independent Lebanese geopolitical commentator" but she has almost no online presence or published stories or writing away from social media platforms. A personal blog linked to by her account has no posts.

    Her tweets have been quoted by mainstream news outlets, but a Google News search indicates that she has not written any articles in either English or Arabic.

    She refused to comment several times when approached by BBC Trending and did not respond to specific requests to comment on this story in particular.

    In several pictures posted by Sarah Abdallah items in the background - such as house in this picture - are common to North America rather than LebanonImage copyrightTWITTER/@SAHOURAXO
    Image captionIn several pictures posted by Sarah Abdallah, items in the background - such as the house in this picture - are common to North America, rather than Lebanon



    http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-43745629
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,337



    White Helmets

    The Sarah Abdallah account is, according to a recent study by the online research firm Graphika, one of the most influential social media accounts in the online conversation about Syria, and specifically in pushing misinformation about a 2017 chemical weapons attack and the Syria Civil Defence, whose rescue workers are widely known as the "White Helmets".

    The White Helmets operate in rebel-held areas. They have been one of the sources that Western media outlets, including the BBC, have quoted about alleged chemical attacks in Syria. With regard to the incident in Douma, the BBC has not been able independently to verify the group's reports.

    Graphika chief executive John Kelly says his company's analysis showed distinct patterns emerging.

    "When you're looking at these disinformation campaigns, a lot of the same characters show up for every party," he told BBC Trending.

    Graphika was commissioned to prepare a report on online chatter by The Syria Campaign, a UK-based advocacy group organisation which campaigns for a democratic future for Syria and supports the White Helmets. The White Helmets have been the subject of two Oscar-nominated documentary films and have been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.

    Graphika found 20 million messages about the White Helmets, split between tweets in support and in opposition. Among the opponents, Kelly says, Sarah Abdallah was "by far the most influential", followed by Vanessa Beeley.

    The firm found that Sarah Abdallah's account was primarily followed by a number of different interest clusters: supporters of pro-Palestinian causes, Russians and Russian allies, white nationalists and those from the extremist alt-right, conservative American Trump supporters, far-right groups in Europe and conspiracy theorists.

    These groups were instrumental in making the hashtag #SyriaHoax trend after the chemical weapons attack in the rebel-held town of Khan Sheikhoun in April 2017.

    That hashtag, pushed by Sarah Abdallah and influential American conservative activists, became a worldwide trend on Twitter. Many of those tweeting it claimed that the chemical weapons attack was faked or a hoax.

    Tweet by sahouraxo Nobody is happier about Trumps illegal attack on Syria than Al-Qaeda Saudi Arabia and Netanyahu McCain and Hillary too SyriaHoaxImage copyrightTWITTER/@SAHOURAXO

    Beeley said the 2017 attack had "been debunked by a number of highly respected analysts and experts." She alleged that evidence "points to the White Helmets as a propaganda construct" and asked, via email: "Why has the BBC never carried out an investigation into the White Helmets?"

    Experts from a joint UN-OPCW mission said in October 2017 that they were confident a Syrian Air Force jet dropped munitions containing sarin on Khan Sheikhoun, dismissing statements from Russia that the jet had fired conventional munitions at a rebel chemical weapons depot.

    Drowned out

    The difficulty in reporting on the ground in Syria has opened up an information vacuum which has been partially filled by highly partisan sources, according to Scott Lucas, a professor of international politics at the University of Birmingham and editor of news and analysis site EA Worldview,

    "None of it is journalism; none of it is really based on solid independent reporting," Lucas says.

    "It is absolutely right to question all narratives, including official narratives of what is happening," he says. "The key is that you don't actually start with a narrative, you start with the facts and you establish what may not be true and what may even be disinformation.

    "The danger we face is, unreliable information is now being taken up by more established - and what we would think of as - more reliable outlets," he says.

    And although the activists' follower accounts continue to grow, there is one indication that their influence online might be on the decline compared with last year.

    In the hours after the alleged attack in Douma, "Syria" was a top trending term on Twitter, but the messages by pro-Assad activists were drowned out by reports from a range of news outlets.

    The hashtag #SyriaHoax was used around 17,000 times in a week (compared to more than 280,000 times in April 2017), and mostly failed to make Twitter's lists of top trends.

  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Mayday Rescue
    $32M from British Foreign Office
    $23M from both US State Dept
    $4.5M from EU and Netherlands
    $7.5M Germany
    Danish, Qatari, Japanese govts do not disclose $

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/11/04/just-how-gray-are-the-white-helmets-of-syria/

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    edited April 2018
    dignin said:

    Syria war: The online activists pushing conspiracy theories

    As the investigation continues into another alleged chemical attack in Syria, one group of influential online activists is busy spreading their version of events.

    Inspectors from the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) are attempting to access the previously rebel-held town of Douma, where medical organisations and rescue workers say President Bashar al-Assad's forces dropped bombs filled with toxic chemicals in an attack on 7 April, killing more than 40 people.

    The Syrian government and its key ally, Russia, say the incident was staged. But the US, UK and France - who support the opposition to Mr Assad - say they are confident that chlorine and possibly a nerve agent were used.

    Despite the uncertainty about what happened in Douma, a cluster of influential social media activists is certain that it knows what occurred on 7 April.

    They've seized on a theory being floated by Russian officials and state-owned media outlets that the attacks were "staged" or were a "false flag" operation, carried out by jihadist groups or spies in order to put the blame on the Assad government and provide a justification for Western intervention.

    The group includes activists and people who call themselves "independent journalists", and several have Twitter followings reaching into the tens or hundreds of thousands.

    The activists call themselves "anti-war", but as they generally back the Syrian government's military operations against rebel forces seeking to overthrow Mr Assad and Russian air strikes carried out in support, it might be more accurate to describe them as "anti-Western intervention" or "pro-Syrian government".

    According to their narrative, international media organisations across the political spectrum, along with human rights organisations, are somehow covertly aligned with Western governments, Saudi Arabia, the Islamic State group and al-Qaeda and taking part in a secretive plot to take over Syria.

    Header image for Vanessa Beeleys Twitter accountImage copyrightTWITTER/@VANESSABEELEY

    The network of activists includes people like Vanessa Beeley. She has more than 30,000 Twitter followers and writes for a news outlet that the website Media Bias/Fact Check calls a "conspiracy and conjecture site" that has "an extreme right bias".

    In response to a list of questions, she called BBC Trending's story a "blatant attempt" to "silence independent journalism" and repeated unsubstantiated claims about alleged chemical weapons attacks.

    Tweet by Vanessa Beeley US  UK are running a psychological warfare campaign supported by their fawning media incl BBC CNN Guardian Channel4 to subject Syrian people to further trauma after 7 years of punishing terrorist war waged by USUK alliance against innocent civilians EnoughImage copyrightTWITTER/@VANESSABEELEY

    Influential accounts

    Beeley gives talks to fringe groups and makes appearances on media outlets including state-owned Russian channel RT.

    But in the online conversation about Syria there are more influential activists, about whom much less is known.

    Sarah Abdallah (@sahouraxo on Twitter) has more than 125,000 followers, among them more than 250 journalists from mainstream media outlets. Her follower count is comparable to BBC journalists who regularly report on Syria, such as BBC Middle East Editor Jeremy Bowen (167,000) and BBC Chief International Correspondent Lyse Doucet (142,000).

    In addition to pictures of herself, Sarah Abdallah tweets constant pro-Russia and pro-Assad messages, with a dollop of retweeting mostly aimed at attacking Barack Obama, other US Democrats and Saudi Arabia.

    In her Twitter profile she describes herself as an "Independent Lebanese geopolitical commentator" but she has almost no online presence or published stories or writing away from social media platforms. A personal blog linked to by her account has no posts.

    Her tweets have been quoted by mainstream news outlets, but a Google News search indicates that she has not written any articles in either English or Arabic.

    She refused to comment several times when approached by BBC Trending and did not respond to specific requests to comment on this story in particular.

    In several pictures posted by Sarah Abdallah items in the background - such as house in this picture - are common to North America rather than LebanonImage copyrightTWITTER/@SAHOURAXO
    Image captionIn several pictures posted by Sarah Abdallah, items in the background - such as the house in this picture - are common to North America, rather than Lebanon



    http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-43745629
    she has a new follower! glad you posted this. we think alike

    shes a Dore fan also!

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  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    Just more of the same...
  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007

    Why do we keep electing Politicians that send us to War???

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,369
    JC29856 said:
    dignin said:

    Syria war: The online activists pushing conspiracy theories

    As the investigation continues into another alleged chemical attack in Syria, one group of influential online activists is busy spreading their version of events.

    Inspectors from the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) are attempting to access the previously rebel-held town of Douma, where medical organisations and rescue workers say President Bashar al-Assad's forces dropped bombs filled with toxic chemicals in an attack on 7 April, killing more than 40 people.

    The Syrian government and its key ally, Russia, say the incident was staged. But the US, UK and France - who support the opposition to Mr Assad - say they are confident that chlorine and possibly a nerve agent were used.

    Despite the uncertainty about what happened in Douma, a cluster of influential social media activists is certain that it knows what occurred on 7 April.

    They've seized on a theory being floated by Russian officials and state-owned media outlets that the attacks were "staged" or were a "false flag" operation, carried out by jihadist groups or spies in order to put the blame on the Assad government and provide a justification for Western intervention.

    The group includes activists and people who call themselves "independent journalists", and several have Twitter followings reaching into the tens or hundreds of thousands.

    The activists call themselves "anti-war", but as they generally back the Syrian government's military operations against rebel forces seeking to overthrow Mr Assad and Russian air strikes carried out in support, it might be more accurate to describe them as "anti-Western intervention" or "pro-Syrian government".

    According to their narrative, international media organisations across the political spectrum, along with human rights organisations, are somehow covertly aligned with Western governments, Saudi Arabia, the Islamic State group and al-Qaeda and taking part in a secretive plot to take over Syria.

    Header image for Vanessa Beeleys Twitter accountImage copyrightTWITTER/@VANESSABEELEY

    The network of activists includes people like Vanessa Beeley. She has more than 30,000 Twitter followers and writes for a news outlet that the website Media Bias/Fact Check calls a "conspiracy and conjecture site" that has "an extreme right bias".

    In response to a list of questions, she called BBC Trending's story a "blatant attempt" to "silence independent journalism" and repeated unsubstantiated claims about alleged chemical weapons attacks.

    Tweet by Vanessa Beeley US  UK are running a psychological warfare campaign supported by their fawning media incl BBC CNN Guardian Channel4 to subject Syrian people to further trauma after 7 years of punishing terrorist war waged by USUK alliance against innocent civilians EnoughImage copyrightTWITTER/@VANESSABEELEY

    Influential accounts

    Beeley gives talks to fringe groups and makes appearances on media outlets including state-owned Russian channel RT.

    But in the online conversation about Syria there are more influential activists, about whom much less is known.

    Sarah Abdallah (@sahouraxo on Twitter) has more than 125,000 followers, among them more than 250 journalists from mainstream media outlets. Her follower count is comparable to BBC journalists who regularly report on Syria, such as BBC Middle East Editor Jeremy Bowen (167,000) and BBC Chief International Correspondent Lyse Doucet (142,000).

    In addition to pictures of herself, Sarah Abdallah tweets constant pro-Russia and pro-Assad messages, with a dollop of retweeting mostly aimed at attacking Barack Obama, other US Democrats and Saudi Arabia.

    In her Twitter profile she describes herself as an "Independent Lebanese geopolitical commentator" but she has almost no online presence or published stories or writing away from social media platforms. A personal blog linked to by her account has no posts.

    Her tweets have been quoted by mainstream news outlets, but a Google News search indicates that she has not written any articles in either English or Arabic.

    She refused to comment several times when approached by BBC Trending and did not respond to specific requests to comment on this story in particular.

    In several pictures posted by Sarah Abdallah items in the background - such as house in this picture - are common to North America rather than LebanonImage copyrightTWITTER/@SAHOURAXO
    Image captionIn several pictures posted by Sarah Abdallah, items in the background - such as the house in this picture - are common to North America, rather than Lebanon



    http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-43745629
    she has a new follower! glad you posted this. we think alike

    shes a Dore fan also!

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    The sentence "McCain and Hillary too" in this tweet is just blowing a dog whistle towards the worst elements of both the Left and the Right.
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