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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mcgruff10 said:
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    My point being, presidents do what they want and then the opposite party ridicules and complains. A few years later, a different political party does the same type of complaining when the same issue occur. Double standard. You can’t be a Democrat and bitch and moan about trump s Syrian strikes but support Obama’s just a few years before. Same can be said of Republicans. 
    “Our number one priority is to see this president fail.”
    I just saw this. A common phrase used by both democrat and republican.  
    Please quote me the democrat senate majority leader who said this mere hours after an election. Please quote me any elected dem member of the house or senate who may have said it. Please quote me any elected dem in the history of the republic who said it.

    Both sides are not the same, unless you believe in false equivalencies.
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  • drakeheuer14
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    brianlux said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    brianlux said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    IMO:
    World war 2: justified
    Korea: justified
    Cuban Missile Crisis: justified
    Vietnam: not justified 
    Cambodia/Laos: I see why they did it so on the fence
    Grenada: justified
    Nicaragua: justified
    Kuwait/Iraq 91: justified
    Rwanda: justified but went in too late
    Serbia/Bosnia: justified
    Afghanistan: justified
    Iraq: not justified
    ISIS: justified based on a not justified war
    Syria: too soon to tell
    Sorry McG but I only agree with maybe 8% of this.
    say what?  so you agreed with me on only two of these?
    No McG, sorry, only 7/8.  But then, I suck at math so... :lol:

    No, seriously, only WWII only only partially.  The others?  No, can't say as I agree.  We stick our nose where it doesn't belong.  Only reason MAAAAYBE for war is if we are attacked and that onliy happened sort of in Hawaii (never would have if we hadn't armed HI).

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  • brianlux
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    mcgruff10 said:
    brianlux said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    brianlux said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    IMO:
    World war 2: justified
    Korea: justified
    Cuban Missile Crisis: justified
    Vietnam: not justified 
    Cambodia/Laos: I see why they did it so on the fence
    Grenada: justified
    Nicaragua: justified
    Kuwait/Iraq 91: justified
    Rwanda: justified but went in too late
    Serbia/Bosnia: justified
    Afghanistan: justified
    Iraq: not justified
    ISIS: justified based on a not justified war
    Syria: too soon to tell
    Sorry McG but I only agree with maybe 8% of this.
    say what?  so you agreed with me on only two of these?
    No McG, sorry, only 7/8.  But then, I suck at math so... :lol:

    No, seriously, only WWII only only partially.  The others?  No, can't say as I agree.  We stick our nose where it doesn't belong.  Only reason MAAAAYBE for war is if we are attacked and that only happened sort of in Hawaii (never would have if we hadn't armed HI).
    so Afghanistan 01 was ok?
    and going with pearl harbor...remember the japanese invaded china first which resulted in the u.s. cutting japan's oil supply.  they needed oil in the dutch east indies so they thought they could take america out by a sneak attack.  however japan was ignored during the treaty of versailles so we could actually put blame on the english and french.  
    WWII is was as clear cut as we're taught in school.  Yeah, China really got screwed (and eaten) by the Japanese.  Maybe if we had given more supply support, I don't know.  The Japanese were under some weird emperor worship spells.  The were a screwed up people then.  But the Japanese culture is also marvelous in ways.  I dig the Japanese of today and in other periods of their history too. 

    Afghanistan?  My feeling is that's another resource war.  I never saw any real purpose for our being there.
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  • brianlux
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    OK, so Syria.  Do we even really understand what's going on there?  It reminds me of the Angolan Civil war- a complete clusterfuck where you had all these factions ebbing, flowing, weaving in and out.  A ridiculous mess.  Same with Syria.  Getting involved in Syria is like stepping into the ring with ten rabid dogs.  I say, give the refuges a hand but stay the hell out of the pit.  It's pointless to get involved that way.
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  • brianlux
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    It also might be worth noting that it is very unlikely for a war-time president to be impeached.

    Hmmmmmmm...
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  • lastexitlondon
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    edited April 2018
    We need to stay out of all these countries until we can definitely help the situation or else not at all
    . Its all fuckin annoying now.


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  • josevolution
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    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    My point being, presidents do what they want and then the opposite party ridicules and complains. A few years later, a different political party does the same type of complaining when the same issue occur. Double standard. You can’t be a Democrat and bitch and moan about trump s Syrian strikes but support Obama’s just a few years before. Same can be said of Republicans. 
    “Our number one priority is to see this president fail.”
    I just saw this. A common phrase used by both democrat and republican.  
    No not one Democrat stepped up and said that about this current president at least not a high ranking Democrat  , we can all remember clears as if it was yesterday Turtle face McConnell saying it the next day after Obama won election ...
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  • cincybearcat
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    polaris_x said:
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    polaris_x said:
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    polaris_x said:
    cincybearcat said:
    This is a very interesting discussion in my opinion. I certainly see Polaris’s point in the sameness game plan each time and people always buy it. My initial reaction to all of this was that Assad gased people and the missiles are justified.  But I’m trying to look around a bit more.  I will say it’s a huge freakin leap to declare the US/UK/France as evil empires and cast Assad as a humanitarian man of the people and Russia and Iran as protectors of all that is right. 

    As usual, it’s probably somewhere in the middle. 
    * the two previous alleged chemical attacks were debunked
    * the OPCW is about to do its investigation in Dhouma
    *  if there is so much actual evidence of Assad atrocities ... gaining Congressional approval and UN Security council approval should be easy
    *  these strikes are illegal on all fronts ... goes against UN charter

    definitely please do look around ... i've posted a bunch of stuff and I welcome you to critically think about all of it ... question, as you have, everything ... if you do it with an open mind ... then that's all I could hope for ...
    Russia used their veto 12 times in regards to Syria? I mean, being one of the only “no” votes and blocking so has to be part of the problem.
    you mean like how the US vetoes everything related to Israel?

    in any case - you have the US/UK and France ... known war mongers ... then you have China ... what is China's position on syria? ... here it is ...

    http://bw.china-embassy.org/eng/xwdt/t1076201.htm

    Yes just like that. So why is it bad for the US and ok for Russia?
    well ... it's not as simple as no one should veto because we know that each member state has their own interests ... it's why I mentioned china ... china would never approve of a military strike in Syria ... did you read the chinese statement? ... what part of it is potentially unreasonable to you?
    I’m not sure China is my moral compass.  I read it. I’m still not sure what I think, but I sure as shit don’t think China or Russia is going to be 100% honest and transparent and take them at face value, ever.
    so the countries we know have lied are trustworthy but china and russia aren't ... at the end of the day - what is wrong or irrational with what they posted ... what if anything they wrote is unreasonable ...

    isn't that what justice is founded on? ... get the evidence ... get the facts ... then decide? ... avoid war at all costs?
    I’m not saying that. And if you don’t think we know russia and China have lied about things then I’m not sure what to say. My point is it’s pretty weird to me to go railing on how awful the us/uk/France are and pretending russia is a prom queen.

    i think you are going way to far in your willingness to believe some of those sources...similar to what you are saying about others and their media.
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  • cincybearcat
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    lastexitlondon said:
    We need to stay out of all these countries until we can definitely help the situation or else not at all
    . Its all fuckin annoying now.
    I kinda feel like it had to be an all or none situation. If getting involved we should have a plan to take in refugees etc 
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  • mace1229
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    edited April 2018
    brianlux said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    brianlux said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    IMO:
    World war 2: justified
    Korea: justified
    Cuban Missile Crisis: justified
    Vietnam: not justified 
    Cambodia/Laos: I see why they did it so on the fence
    Grenada: justified
    Nicaragua: justified
    Kuwait/Iraq 91: justified
    Rwanda: justified but went in too late
    Serbia/Bosnia: justified
    Afghanistan: justified
    Iraq: not justified
    ISIS: justified based on a not justified war
    Syria: too soon to tell
    Sorry McG but I only agree with maybe 8% of this.
    say what?  so you agreed with me on only two of these?
    No McG, sorry, only 7/8.  But then, I suck at math so... :lol:

    No, seriously, only WWII only only partially.  The others?  No, can't say as I agree.  We stick our nose where it doesn't belong.  Only reason MAAAAYBE for war is if we are attacked and that only happened sort of in Hawaii (never would have if we hadn't armed HI).
    Wow, so if Japan didn’t bomb Pearl Harbor, you’d be okay letting Hitler kill every Jew, gypsy and gay? And that’s just to start, he would have moved on to other ethnicities from there, but as long as America never made the list there’d be no reason for us to stop him? Is that what you’re saying?
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  • mace1229
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    brianlux said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    brianlux said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    IMO:
    World war 2: justified
    Korea: justified
    Cuban Missile Crisis: justified
    Vietnam: not justified 
    Cambodia/Laos: I see why they did it so on the fence
    Grenada: justified
    Nicaragua: justified
    Kuwait/Iraq 91: justified
    Rwanda: justified but went in too late
    Serbia/Bosnia: justified
    Afghanistan: justified
    Iraq: not justified
    ISIS: justified based on a not justified war
    Syria: too soon to tell
    Sorry McG but I only agree with maybe 8% of this.
    say what?  so you agreed with me on only two of these?
    No McG, sorry, only 7/8.  But then, I suck at math so... :lol:

    No, seriously, only WWII only only partially.  The others?  No, can't say as I agree.  We stick our nose where it doesn't belong.  Only reason MAAAAYBE for war is if we are attacked and that only happened sort of in Hawaii (never would have if we hadn't armed HI).
    Wow, so if Japan didn’t bomb Pearl Harbor, you’d be okay letting Hitler kill everybody jee, gypsy and gay? And that’s just to start, he would have moved on to other ethnicities from there, but as long as America never made the list there’d be no reason for us to stop him? Is that what you’re saying?
  • JimmyV
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    Afghanistan was the last time an American military intervention felt justified to me. Ever since Iraq everything else has felt wrong or at best misguided.
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  • polaris_x
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    cincybearcat said:
    polaris_x said:
    cincybearcat said:
    polaris_x said:
    cincybearcat said:
    polaris_x said:
    cincybearcat said:
    polaris_x said:
    cincybearcat said:
    This is a very interesting discussion in my opinion. I certainly see Polaris’s point in the sameness game plan each time and people always buy it. My initial reaction to all of this was that Assad gased people and the missiles are justified.  But I’m trying to look around a bit more.  I will say it’s a huge freakin leap to declare the US/UK/France as evil empires and cast Assad as a humanitarian man of the people and Russia and Iran as protectors of all that is right. 

    As usual, it’s probably somewhere in the middle. 
    * the two previous alleged chemical attacks were debunked
    * the OPCW is about to do its investigation in Dhouma
    *  if there is so much actual evidence of Assad atrocities ... gaining Congressional approval and UN Security council approval should be easy
    *  these strikes are illegal on all fronts ... goes against UN charter

    definitely please do look around ... i've posted a bunch of stuff and I welcome you to critically think about all of it ... question, as you have, everything ... if you do it with an open mind ... then that's all I could hope for ...
    Russia used their veto 12 times in regards to Syria? I mean, being one of the only “no” votes and blocking so has to be part of the problem.
    you mean like how the US vetoes everything related to Israel?

    in any case - you have the US/UK and France ... known war mongers ... then you have China ... what is China's position on syria? ... here it is ...

    http://bw.china-embassy.org/eng/xwdt/t1076201.htm

    Yes just like that. So why is it bad for the US and ok for Russia?
    well ... it's not as simple as no one should veto because we know that each member state has their own interests ... it's why I mentioned china ... china would never approve of a military strike in Syria ... did you read the chinese statement? ... what part of it is potentially unreasonable to you?
    I’m not sure China is my moral compass.  I read it. I’m still not sure what I think, but I sure as shit don’t think China or Russia is going to be 100% honest and transparent and take them at face value, ever.
    so the countries we know have lied are trustworthy but china and russia aren't ... at the end of the day - what is wrong or irrational with what they posted ... what if anything they wrote is unreasonable ...

    isn't that what justice is founded on? ... get the evidence ... get the facts ... then decide? ... avoid war at all costs?
    I’m not saying that. And if you don’t think we know russia and China have lied about things then I’m not sure what to say. My point is it’s pretty weird to me to go railing on how awful the us/uk/France are and pretending russia is a prom queen.

    i think you are going way to far in your willingness to believe some of those sources...similar to what you are saying about others and their media.
    dude .. remember all those years ago we debated global warming and wmd's in iraq ... i think i've shown over the years not only to be on the right side of the discussion but backing up my beliefs with information ... i've spent a lot of time on Syria as I did with everything else back then ...

    no one here has countered any piece i've put forth ...
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    So .. we now know this ..

    The research facility that was bombed was a cancer research facility ... for those who don't know ... cancer related medicines are part of the sanctions imposed on Syria ... we also know that the OPCW inspected the facility for the 2nd time in November 2017 and said there was no suspicious activity ...
  • Meltdown99
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    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    brianlux said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    IMO:
    World war 2: justified
    Korea: justified
    Cuban Missile Crisis: justified
    Vietnam: not justified 
    Cambodia/Laos: I see why they did it so on the fence
    Grenada: justified
    Nicaragua: justified
    Kuwait/Iraq 91: justified
    Rwanda: justified but went in too late
    Serbia/Bosnia: justified
    Afghanistan: justified
    Iraq: not justified
    ISIS: justified based on a not justified war
    Syria: too soon to tell
    Sorry McG but I only agree with maybe 8% of this.
    say what?  so you agreed with me on only two of these?
    No McG, sorry, only 7/8.  But then, I suck at math so... :lol:

    No, seriously, only WWII only only partially.  The others?  No, can't say as I agree.  We stick our nose where it doesn't belong.  Only reason MAAAAYBE for war is if we are attacked and that only happened sort of in Hawaii (never would have if we hadn't armed HI).
    Wow, so if Japan didn’t bomb Pearl Harbor, you’d be okay letting Hitler kill everybody jee, gypsy and gay? And that’s just to start, he would have moved on to other ethnicities from there, but as long as America never made the list there’d be no reason for us to stop him? Is that what you’re saying?
    That's weak, If America cared so much about those who were systematically murdered by the Nazi's they would have not denied denied thousands fleeing Germany visa's and would have enter the war when Canada did.  Americans give themselves far to much credit for the success of WW2...way too much.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    polaris_x said:
    So .. we now know this ..

    The research facility that was bombed was a cancer research facility ... for those who don't know ... cancer related medicines are part of the sanctions imposed on Syria ... we also know that the OPCW inspected the facility for the 2nd time in November 2017 and said there was no suspicious activity ...
    source?
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  • mace1229
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    Meltdown99 said:
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    brianlux said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    IMO:
    World war 2: justified
    Korea: justified
    Cuban Missile Crisis: justified
    Vietnam: not justified 
    Cambodia/Laos: I see why they did it so on the fence
    Grenada: justified
    Nicaragua: justified
    Kuwait/Iraq 91: justified
    Rwanda: justified but went in too late
    Serbia/Bosnia: justified
    Afghanistan: justified
    Iraq: not justified
    ISIS: justified based on a not justified war
    Syria: too soon to tell
    Sorry McG but I only agree with maybe 8% of this.
    say what?  so you agreed with me on only two of these?
    No McG, sorry, only 7/8.  But then, I suck at math so... :lol:

    No, seriously, only WWII only only partially.  The others?  No, can't say as I agree.  We stick our nose where it doesn't belong.  Only reason MAAAAYBE for war is if we are attacked and that only happened sort of in Hawaii (never would have if we hadn't armed HI).
    Wow, so if Japan didn’t bomb Pearl Harbor, you’d be okay letting Hitler kill everybody jee, gypsy and gay? And that’s just to start, he would have moved on to other ethnicities from there, but as long as America never made the list there’d be no reason for us to stop him? Is that what you’re saying?
    That's weak, If America cared so much about those who were systematically murdered by the Nazi's they would have not denied denied thousands fleeing Germany visa's and would have enter the war when Canada did.  Americans give themselves far to much credit for the success of WW2...way too much.
    How is that weak? Without the effort of every major country, including the US, the allies likely would have lost, and the millions murdered would have been a drop in the bucket. Doesn’t US, along with their allies deserve credit?
    no one knew the extent of the Nazis until the end of the war, which could be the reason for the visas. 
    So yeah, we didn’t enter the war to save Jews, but it was clear both Japan and Germany were world issues. It’s a shame we stayed out of it as long as we did, I don’t see how anyone could claim that war was not 100% justified
  • benjs
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    polaris_x said:
    So .. we now know this ..

    The research facility that was bombed was a cancer research facility ... for those who don't know ... cancer related medicines are part of the sanctions imposed on Syria ... we also know that the OPCW inspected the facility for the 2nd time in November 2017 and said there was no suspicious activity ...
    Please provide your source. The only link I can find between Barzah and cancer research is the following from RT (https://www.rt.com/op-ed/424186-us-allies-syria-lie/):

    "Regarding the actual nature of the buildings bombed, Syrian media, SANA, describes the Pharmaceutical and Chemical Industries Research Institute as developing “centered on preparing the chemical compositions for cancer drugs.” The destruction of this institute is particularly bitter, as, under the criminal western sanctions, cancer medicines sales to Syria are prohibited."

    Note that SANA is Syrian State Media as well. 

    It seems that this building is colloquially called the Barzah Scientific Research Facility, and even then, I can't find any pre-two-days-ago information about it being used for pharmaceutical purposes. The only corroboration of its use is from a man named Saeed Saeed, the supposed head of the institution, who seems to have had interviews after the bombing to confirm what the building was used for. I can't find any information about this man other than a few pictures on Chinese news networks.

    Now, we're left with a few options on what to believe:
    1. The building was somehow related to the development of chemical weapons, and the contents were not volatile (since external parties are standing there without hazmat suits, etc.), and was bombed by three countries to halt the production of chemical weapons
    2. The building was not related to the development of chemical weapons, which was (unbeknownst to anyone outside of Syria until its destruction) used as a pharmaceutical facility, and was bombed by three countries to exert pressure by limiting the internal production of cancer medications

    I personally feel both of these are plausible, but based on the involvement of three countries in the bombing, I find it hard to believe that all three were on board for such nefarious actions. 
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    JimmyV said:
    Afghanistan was the last time an American military intervention felt justified to me. Ever since Iraq everything else has felt wrong or at best misguided.

    I felt a response was necessary; however, was Afghanistan the country that needed to feel it? 15 of the 19 terrorists were Saudi.
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  • JimmyV
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    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    JimmyV said:
    Afghanistan was the last time an American military intervention felt justified to me. Ever since Iraq everything else has felt wrong or at best misguided.

    I felt a response was necessary; however, was Afghanistan the country that needed to feel it? 15 of the 19 terrorists were Saudi.
    It's where Bin Laden was. Part of any response needed to include Afghanistan.

    I don't disagree about Saudi involvement. Then or now.
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