Art is subjective but I love that this song would have seemed out of place on Backspacer or Lightning Bolt. Means the band is still pushing it and challenging themselves and their fans.
I agree with the commenters that Cant Deny Me is reminiscent of The Clash with channeling of Chris Cornell.
Art is subjective but I love that this song would have seemed out of place on Backspacer or Lightning Bolt. Means the band is still pushing it and challenging themselves and their fans.
I agree with the commenters that Cant Deny Me is reminiscent of The Clash with channeling of Chris Cornell.
True.
Something raw and garage-y would be interesting.
It's been giving me a very Era Vulgeris vibe.
Ooh, I'd like that. Turnin on the Screw style in there a bit.
Art is subjective but I love that this song would have seemed out of place on Backspacer or Lightning Bolt. Means the band is still pushing it and challenging themselves and their fans.
I agree with the commenters that Cant Deny Me is reminiscent of The Clash with channeling of Chris Cornell.
True.
Something raw and garage-y would be interesting.
It's been giving me a very Era Vulgeris vibe.
Ooh, I'd like that. Turnin on the Screw style in there a bit.
This single is not the holiday single. Its an early download for 10C members. This single WILL be on the new album. The Holiday Single is still forthcoming. The new album is still forthcoming.
I can't believe this is really going to be on the new album. It sounds like something they could have written in a half hour. I'm just bummed they can't seem to reach down deep and at least try to approach the level of creativity they once had. But hey that's just my opinion. I'll still buy the new album and enjoy the shows but my level of excitement on new material is at an all time low.
Most the old stuff was written really quickly. It's not about time spent on it. It's about whether it' good or not
Black Sabbath's Paranoid was written in minutes and in haste because they felt the album's run-time was too short. It became one of their greatest hits and album name. I think when the creativity strikes, it's there and amount of time doesn't matter. This PJ song musically sounds to me a lot like Big Wave but slowed down. Similar in the way Severed Hand sounds like Porch. I like this song. Surprised at all the negativity. A lot of negativity. People keep coming to the same restaurant to keep complaining about the food. One good thing about the current administration is they inspired the band to make another album. I'm guessing not the happiness of the last two. Hoping there is no spoken-word Bu$hleaguer type of stuff. I'm sure they'll show a lot of depth as they have matured. Looking forward to the release.
Up here so high I start to shake, Up here so high the sky I scrape, I've no fear but for falling down, So look out below I am falling now, Falling down,...not staying down, Could’ve held me up, rather tear me down, Drown in the river
Okay... now they're saying it will be on the new album..... so their 2017 annual single is going to be their first single from the new album? Hmm.
Well.... I hope Eddie's voice sounds better on the rest of the songs.
The non-10C version is much more put together, polished, etc.
Listening now..... Hmm. Sounds the same to me... For a sec I thought maybe you were right, but I'm pretty sure that's my imagination driven by the power of your suggestion. Kay, I really want to like new music from them... and I will say now that I'm getting used to the song, and despite the strain in EV's voice and the cracking, which I will probably never be able to ignore ... the song is NOT making me think the album is going to be bad (for me). I think this song at the very least makes me think there is a 50/50 chance of it actually being good, at worst. And while that might seem negative to some people, it's actually not, given my feelings about their last two albums. I mean, this song is better than anything on Backspacer, and still better than most songs on LB. So that's something for sure. And yes, I admit that it does get better after a bunch of listens. I personally don't think any song should require that much work for it to be tolerable, at least not for me. That is not usually how I become attached to music. (anyway, I am aware that there are a LOT of fans who don't like this kind of discussion about anything PJ does - they prefer everyone to just love everything. But I think these kinds of considerations are exactly what a forum about a band is supposed to talk about, so I'm hoping folks can take this agonizing critical process among some fans for what it is: a reflection of the fact that we care about what this band does).
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
This single is not the holiday single. Its an early download for 10C members. This single WILL be on the new album. The Holiday Single is still forthcoming. The new album is still forthcoming.
Can you verify this? If true, they seemed to go out of their way to make us think it is the 2017 single, by labeling it "2017 ANNUAL SINGLE" in the downloads. Why would we think it is anything but the annual single was a 2-day head start on the first single for the album?
This single is not the holiday single. Its an early download for 10C members. This single WILL be on the new album. The Holiday Single is still forthcoming. The new album is still forthcoming.
Can you verify this? If true, they seemed to go out of their way to make us think it is the 2017 single, by labeling it "2017 ANNUAL SINGLE" in the downloads. Why would we think it is anything but the annual single was a 2-day head start on the first single for the album?
It's both the first side of the annual single and the first single from the album.
This single is not the holiday single. Its an early download for 10C members. This single WILL be on the new album. The Holiday Single is still forthcoming. The new album is still forthcoming.
Can you verify this? If true, they seemed to go out of their way to make us think it is the 2017 single, by labeling it "2017 ANNUAL SINGLE" in the downloads. Why would we think it is anything but the annual single was a 2-day head start on the first single for the album?
Exactly. And it’s not a “rough mix,” it just sounds that way because it’s a 160 kbps mp3. (And I would presume the low quality is so it doesn’t deter anyone from paying for the higher quality version released today).
This single is not the holiday single. Its an early download for 10C members. This single WILL be on the new album. The Holiday Single is still forthcoming. The new album is still forthcoming.
Can you verify this? If true, they seemed to go out of their way to make us think it is the 2017 single, by labeling it "2017 ANNUAL SINGLE" in the downloads. Why would we think it is anything but the annual single was a 2-day head start on the first single for the album?
It's both the first side of the annual single and the first single from the album.
That's what makes sense to me, so I don't know why I've seen several say it is not the annual single, when it was clearly as such when I downloaded it.
This single is not the holiday single. Its an early download for 10C members. This single WILL be on the new album. The Holiday Single is still forthcoming. The new album is still forthcoming.
Can you verify this? If true, they seemed to go out of their way to make us think it is the 2017 single, by labeling it "2017 ANNUAL SINGLE" in the downloads. Why would we think it is anything but the annual single was a 2-day head start on the first single for the album?
to be clear, the email said "2017 Single". nothing about "annual" or "holiday" or anything of the like. admittedly, that is a weird way of announcing it. they had to know it was going to make us think it was the annual single. If it wasn't, and this is from the new album, both released in 2018, why would it be called the 2017 single?
here is the full text:
2017 SINGLE
"Can't Deny Me"
Hear the new Pearl Jam song first!
Log in to your Ten Club account for an exclusive early download.
Well that's the thing. If it's not the annual single they wouldn't have called it the 2017 single. I think that part undeniably means that it is indeed the annual single for 2017 (side A, presumably). Pretty weird.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
We're all so fucking crazy ! We're each sitting around trying to interpret what word or missing words means as it relates to this song and it's official status. Anyone reach out to @Sea for clarification yet? You can't deny us!
We're all so fucking crazy ! We're each sitting around trying to interpret what word or missing words means as it relates to this song and it's official status. Anyone reach out to @Sea for clarification yet? You can't deny us!
Doesn't everyone just assume that 10C won't ever clarify things like this for us? ... Hey, maybe it was another typo!
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
We're all so fucking crazy ! We're each sitting around trying to interpret what word or missing words means as it relates to this song and it's official status. Anyone reach out to @Sea for clarification yet? You can't deny us!
Doesn't every just assume that 10C won't ever clarify things like this for us? ... Hey, maybe it was another typo!
Haha! Yes, typo gate 2.0. Maybe the typewriter is out of control. Incompetence abound these days at all levels. That's ok, Betsy D. is fixing education....
Las Cruces, NM Pan Am Center September 14, 1995
Albuquerque, NM Tingley Coliseum July 7, 1998
New York City, NY MSG May 20, 2010
Eddie Vedder Solo Albuquerque, NM November 9, 2012
Wrigley Field July 19, 2013
LA Nov. 23: 24, 2013
Denver 10-22-14
I don't know kind of gets better after time but still sounds like Ed's on the bowl in the beginning , and the changes sound forced like they are trying too hard . ah , what do I know , they are the rock stars and I work in an office .
Maybe its all just one big typo. LOL. If this is the annual single then it seems a bit of a rip off. Unless its sent out in the next couple of months then the new album could be out first. Still waiting here on the 2016 single. I used to really enjoy the annual single but I dont think I would care if they stopped it.
From a marketing standpoint, this single is genius. It’s got people talking and interested. It’s edgy and different. I think they know what their doing. After 28 years, sometimes you gotta poke the bears to see if their still hungry.
Maybe its all just one big typo. LOL. If this is the annual single then it seems a bit of a rip off. Unless its sent out in the next couple of months then the new album could be out first. Still waiting here on the 2016 single. I used to really enjoy the annual single but I dont think I would care if they stopped it.
Yeah, I actually think they should cancel that "program" TBH. They just don't seem to care about it at all and are kind of just forcing it, and without them caring, it's really not all that fun IMHO..... But then they couldn't charge $40 - $50 for analog memberships. Unless they came up with something else.... and something else might just convince me to return to the analog membership. I sure haven't missed it for the past 2 years.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Maybe its all just one big typo. LOL. If this is the annual single then it seems a bit of a rip off. Unless its sent out in the next couple of months then the new album could be out first. Still waiting here on the 2016 single. I used to really enjoy the annual single but I dont think I would care if they stopped it.
Yeah, I actually think they should cancel that "program" TBH. They just don't seem to care about it at all and are kind of just forcing it, and without them caring, it's really not all that fun IMHO..... But then they couldn't charge $40 - $50 for analog memberships. Unless they came up with something else.... and something else might just convince me to return to the analog membership. I sure haven't missed it for the past 2 years.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
From a marketing standpoint, this single is genius. It’s got people talking and interested. It’s edgy and different. I think they know what their doing. After 28 years, sometimes you gotta poke the bears to see if their still hungry.
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This single WILL be on the new album.
The Holiday Single is still forthcoming.
The new album is still forthcoming.
Here to die.
Scared alive.
Black Sabbath's Paranoid was written in minutes and in haste because they felt the album's run-time was too short. It became one of their greatest hits and album name. I think when the creativity strikes, it's there and amount of time doesn't matter. This PJ song musically sounds to me a lot like Big Wave but slowed down. Similar in the way Severed Hand sounds like Porch. I like this song. Surprised at all the negativity. A lot of negativity. People keep coming to the same restaurant to keep complaining about the food. One good thing about the current administration is they inspired the band to make another album. I'm guessing not the happiness of the last two. Hoping there is no spoken-word Bu$hleaguer type of stuff. I'm sure they'll show a lot of depth as they have matured. Looking forward to the release.
(anyway, I am aware that there are a LOT of fans who don't like this kind of discussion about anything PJ does - they prefer everyone to just love everything. But I think these kinds of considerations are exactly what a forum about a band is supposed to talk about, so I'm hoping folks can take this agonizing critical process among some fans for what it is: a reflection of the fact that we care about what this band does).
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
here is the full text:
2017 SINGLE
"Can't Deny Me"
Hear the new Pearl Jam song first!
Log in to your Ten Club account for an exclusive early download.
Enjoy!
www.headstonesband.com
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Here to die.
Scared alive.
Albuquerque, NM Tingley Coliseum July 7, 1998
New York City, NY MSG May 20, 2010
Eddie Vedder Solo Albuquerque, NM November 9, 2012
Wrigley Field July 19, 2013
LA Nov. 23: 24, 2013
Denver 10-22-14
I don't know kind of gets better after time but still sounds like Ed's on the bowl in the beginning , and the changes sound forced like they are trying too hard . ah , what do I know , they are the rock stars and I work in an office .