What an incredibly lazy way to fulfill paid member benefits that had been neglected. “Here’s a shit quality, 160 kbps mp3 of a song the whole world will have access to in full quality in 3 days. We’ve fulfilled our 2017 member obligation.” LOL
we still get it on vinyl, and a b-side, presumably. it is odd, though, for digital members, to pay that much for a song that is supposed to be exclusive to the club and can buy it on itunes for a buck.
That’s just it man. There are a lot of us that are digital members. I can listen to it at 2x the quality today on Spotify. We basically didn’t get that 2017 benefit (a single exclusive to 10c members.)
I get what you're saying, but it seems like a petty thing to be upset about. The bigger benefit to my membership is that I was able to secure tickets to the Fenway shows with zero stress of dealing with an online sale. That alone is worth my $20 (and another $20 to get the t-shirt, as I'm analog). The singles are fun to get, but I tend to listen to them once or twice and shelf them.
That’s fantastic that you’re OK with it. Doesn’t mean everyone feels the same way. It’s not a huge deal, and yes, tickets are the only reason I’m a member. But I don’t think it’s out of line to point out that this is still a benefit we pay for, and that it has always been an exclusive song for us. I'm guessing when they decided to kill two birds with one stone they were counting on a lot of members to brush it off like you did.
I "brush it off" because I consider it a tiny benefit compared to the other benefits of being in the 10c. As noted, the song is available for purchase for $1. Should we demand $1 be refunded to our credit cards for this year?
If you're so inclined. Knock yourself out. I think it's lame to have an essential member benefit greatly eroded, you've made it clear that it doesn't bother you. Rock on.
I think the issue is that I don't consider it "essential". IMHO, it ranks up there with getting a copy of "Deep" magazine.
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Right, but at this point, we are basically talking about 1 99 cent song. The b-side will be "exclusive" ....whatever exclusive means in the internet age anyway.
Like i said before, none of the 10c songs are actually exclusive. The very fact we get a digital download at all is gravy. We used to just get the vinyls, and people complained that they had no way to listen to it.
Let's relax for a moment. We pay 40 bucks a year. For a music band's fan club. This is not a Country Club Membership. This isn't season tickets to a sporting event. It's literally 40 bucks a year. Its the right to purchase tickets ahead of the crowd, a record, and a special gift. I mean, Pearl Jam isn't going to go into the studio to record stuff exclusively for 10c fans every year. Sometimes, its a cool bootleg. Sometimes, its a cover song. Sometimes, its some ranting and raving, etc. This time, its the first single off the new album, on record, along with an unnamed b-side.
We just got news that not only did they drop a song unexpectedly, they also have a forthcoming album, and are starting their tour tonight. This also likely means that more shows will be on the way (Late this year, early next year) in support of the album.
I get it, some people like the song, some don't. It's totally ok to not like it, or whatever. But the amount of whining is getting out of control.
It's not like 10C members are the only ones that get to hear the 10C songs. Lost Dogs was a release of a bunch of songs, some of which were previously 10C only. Besides that...they are REALLY painfully easy to find on the internet.
I think we can all make comments without being told to relax. I am quite relaxed. I just find some of this bands/management's practices, when it comes to their fan club, a little puzzling. I mean, it says right in the ten club member bio thing that the single is exclusive to fan club members.
is it a massive deal? no. but all these little deals keep adding up.
Never in the history of calm down has anyone calmed down by being told to calm down.
Right, but at this point, we are basically talking about 1 99 cent song. The b-side will be "exclusive" ....whatever exclusive means in the internet age anyway.
Like i said before, none of the 10c songs are actually exclusive. The very fact we get a digital download at all is gravy. We used to just get the vinyls, and people complained that they had no way to listen to it.
Right, but at this point, we are basically talking about 1 99 cent song. The b-side will be "exclusive" ....whatever exclusive means in the internet age anyway.
Like i said before, none of the 10c songs are actually exclusive. The very fact we get a digital download at all is gravy. We used to just get the vinyls, and people complained that they had no way to listen to it.
uh, not for digital members, it's not.
Right. You chose the 20 buck package. You dont get the the record, or the tshirt/item, or the bootleg.
With 20 bucks, you get access to the site, the discounts, the ticket access, the deep pdf, and the mp3 of whatever is on the record.
Let's relax for a moment. We pay 40 bucks a year. For a music band's fan club. This is not a Country Club Membership. This isn't season tickets to a sporting event. It's literally 40 bucks a year. Its the right to purchase tickets ahead of the crowd, a record, and a special gift. I mean, Pearl Jam isn't going to go into the studio to record stuff exclusively for 10c fans every year. Sometimes, its a cool bootleg. Sometimes, its a cover song. Sometimes, its some ranting and raving, etc. This time, its the first single off the new album, on record, along with an unnamed b-side.
We just got news that not only did they drop a song unexpectedly, they also have a forthcoming album, and are starting their tour tonight. This also likely means that more shows will be on the way (Late this year, early next year) in support of the album.
I get it, some people like the song, some don't. It's totally ok to not like it, or whatever. But the amount of whining is getting out of control.
It's not like 10C members are the only ones that get to hear the 10C songs. Lost Dogs was a release of a bunch of songs, some of which were previously 10C only. Besides that...they are REALLY painfully easy to find on the internet.
I think we can all make comments without being told to relax. I am quite relaxed. I just find some of this bands/management's practices, when it comes to their fan club, a little puzzling. I mean, it says right in the ten club member bio thing that the single is exclusive to fan club members.
is it a massive deal? no. but all these little deals keep adding up.
Never in the history of calm down has anyone calmed down by being told to calm down.
That is an absolute FACT, especially if you're talking about women. I once told a male friend that telling a woman to calm down is like throwing gasoline on a fire and expecting it to go out.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
What an incredibly lazy way to fulfill paid member benefits that had been neglected. “Here’s a shit quality, 160 kbps mp3 of a song the whole world will have access to in full quality in 3 days. We’ve fulfilled our 2017 member obligation.” LOL
we still get it on vinyl, and a b-side, presumably. it is odd, though, for digital members, to pay that much for a song that is supposed to be exclusive to the club and can buy it on itunes for a buck.
That’s just it man. There are a lot of us that are digital members. I can listen to it at 2x the quality today on Spotify. We basically didn’t get that 2017 benefit (a single exclusive to 10c members.)
I get what you're saying, but it seems like a petty thing to be upset about. The bigger benefit to my membership is that I was able to secure tickets to the Fenway shows with zero stress of dealing with an online sale. That alone is worth my $20 (and another $20 to get the t-shirt, as I'm analog). The singles are fun to get, but I tend to listen to them once or twice and shelf them.
That’s fantastic that you’re OK with it. Doesn’t mean everyone feels the same way. It’s not a huge deal, and yes, tickets are the only reason I’m a member. But I don’t think it’s out of line to point out that this is still a benefit we pay for, and that it has always been an exclusive song for us. I'm guessing when they decided to kill two birds with one stone they were counting on a lot of members to brush it off like you did.
I "brush it off" because I consider it a tiny benefit compared to the other benefits of being in the 10c. As noted, the song is available for purchase for $1. Should we demand $1 be refunded to our credit cards for this year?
Im pleased you get a lot out of the 10c. I'm international and pay $50. For this I get a t-shirt, a magazine (none of which I really care too much for) and the ticket thing is of no benefit to me and so the annual single is the one constant that keeps me signed up each year (new pj recordings). So to pass this track off as the annual single for the previous year is really rubbish, maybe the b-side will be Ole which will also be on the new album.
Right, but at this point, we are basically talking about 1 99 cent song. The b-side will be "exclusive" ....whatever exclusive means in the internet age anyway.
Like i said before, none of the 10c songs are actually exclusive. The very fact we get a digital download at all is gravy. We used to just get the vinyls, and people complained that they had no way to listen to it.
Right, but at this point, we are basically talking about 1 99 cent song. The b-side will be "exclusive" ....whatever exclusive means in the internet age anyway.
Like i said before, none of the 10c songs are actually exclusive. The very fact we get a digital download at all is gravy. We used to just get the vinyls, and people complained that they had no way to listen to it.
uh, not for digital members, it's not.
Right. You chose the 20 buck package. You dont get the the record, or the tshirt/item, or the bootleg.
With 20 bucks, you get access to the site, the discounts, the ticket access, the deep pdf, and the mp3 of whatever is on the record.
i'm analog.
it's fine if you don't understand the term "exclusive", but I do.
This thread turned into an annual single bitching thread? Christ
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6/18/03 Chicago-United Center
5/17/06 Chicago-United Center
7/19/13 Chicago-Wrigley Field
10/11/13 Pittsburgh-Consol Energy Center
10/17/14 Moline-IWireless Center (No Code)
10/20/14 Milwaukee-Bradley center (Yield)
4/26/16 Lexington-Rupp Arena
8/20/16 Chicago-Wrigley Field
8/22/16 Chicago-Wrigley Field 8/18/18 Chicago-Wrigley Field 8/20/18 Chicago-Wrigley Field 9/5/23 Chicago-United Center 9/7/23 Chicago-United Center
This thread turned into an annual single bitching thread? Christ
it only turns into that when people are calmly discussing something they find odd and people on the other end make ridiculous assertions that we think the world is coming to an end and we are forced to defend ourselves and tell them that, in fact, our hair is not on fire. it's passive agressive bullshit that builds an argument out of fucking nowhere.
Right, but at this point, we are basically talking about 1 99 cent song. The b-side will be "exclusive" ....whatever exclusive means in the internet age anyway.
Like i said before, none of the 10c songs are actually exclusive. The very fact we get a digital download at all is gravy. We used to just get the vinyls, and people complained that they had no way to listen to it.
Right, but at this point, we are basically talking about 1 99 cent song. The b-side will be "exclusive" ....whatever exclusive means in the internet age anyway.
Like i said before, none of the 10c songs are actually exclusive. The very fact we get a digital download at all is gravy. We used to just get the vinyls, and people complained that they had no way to listen to it.
uh, not for digital members, it's not.
Right. You chose the 20 buck package. You dont get the the record, or the tshirt/item, or the bootleg.
With 20 bucks, you get access to the site, the discounts, the ticket access, the deep pdf, and the mp3 of whatever is on the record.
i'm analog.
it's fine if you don't understand the term "exclusive", but I do.
OK lets not get sarcastic about it.
The b-side will be exclusive. The record itself is exclusive. And the 10 club got the drop on the single 3-4 days before the general pop did. We didnt have to pay for it, and others did.
But again..."exclusive" isnt what it used to mean. the singles in 1994? Those were exclusive. They were on actual records, and the internet was not the sharing place that it is today.
Within minutes of downloading my song, it was already up on You Tube. I mean....how exclusive can you be with a digital song in this world now?
Right, but at this point, we are basically talking about 1 99 cent song. The b-side will be "exclusive" ....whatever exclusive means in the internet age anyway.
Like i said before, none of the 10c songs are actually exclusive. The very fact we get a digital download at all is gravy. We used to just get the vinyls, and people complained that they had no way to listen to it.
Right, but at this point, we are basically talking about 1 99 cent song. The b-side will be "exclusive" ....whatever exclusive means in the internet age anyway.
Like i said before, none of the 10c songs are actually exclusive. The very fact we get a digital download at all is gravy. We used to just get the vinyls, and people complained that they had no way to listen to it.
uh, not for digital members, it's not.
Right. You chose the 20 buck package. You dont get the the record, or the tshirt/item, or the bootleg.
With 20 bucks, you get access to the site, the discounts, the ticket access, the deep pdf, and the mp3 of whatever is on the record.
i'm analog.
it's fine if you don't understand the term "exclusive", but I do.
Last Kiss wasn’t exclusive to fan club members. It was a holiday sIngle then a widely released single.
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Guys let's not bicker about the fact that we didn't get a single that was exclusive to us. In this day and age everyone has access to every single that comes out anyway. I only joined last year and heard most of the singles that they released to the 10 Club whenever I searched them.
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This thread turned into an annual single bitching thread? Christ
it only turns into that when people are calmly discussing something they find odd and people on the other end make ridiculous assertions that we think the world is coming to an end and we are forced to defend ourselves and tell them that, in fact, our hair is not on fire. it's passive agressive bullshit that builds an argument out of fucking nowhere.
same old shit.
I'm not sure I've ever loved a post on here more than this one. 100%. Disagreement is not "bitching," "whining," or "entitlement." It means there are other points of view other than your own.
This thread turned into an annual single bitching thread? Christ
it only turns into that when people are calmly discussing something they find odd and people on the other end make ridiculous assertions that we think the world is coming to an end and we are forced to defend ourselves and tell them that, in fact, our hair is not on fire. it's passive agressive bullshit that builds an argument out of fucking nowhere.
same old shit.
I'm not sure I've ever loved a post on here more than this one. 100%. Disagreement is not "bitching," "whining," or "entitlement." It means there are other points of view other than your own.
My comment was not passive aggressive arguing. It was merely saying, "Lets stop for a second and think about all of the other benefits that we still get". I apologize if it sounded like i "told people to calm down", even when I said, "this comment isnt directed at you then"
The best benefit of 10c membership for me is being able to buy the Vault vinyl and things like Sevens (if you are lucky). I'd hate not to be part of that.
The best benefit of 10c membership for me is being able to buy the Vault vinyl and things like Sevens (if you are lucky). I'd hate not to be part of that.
Yes, I agree with that, plus access to this hilarious message board. I don't know what I'd do with my downtime at work without it, lol. And TBH, without the complaining and arguing, there wouldn't be much going on.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
$40 for the fanclub is nothing. Break it down. $10 bootleg code. $10 vinyl single. ( then add shipping). Tshirt or other gift. $10-15. ( then add shipping.) Deep magazine $ (don't know what to price this) chance to purchase exclusive Pearl Jam merchandise. Chance for tickets. If you break it all down it's not that much.
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"He made the deal with the devil, we get to play with him.
He goes to hell, of course. We're going to heaven."
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Here to die.
Scared alive.
With 20 bucks, you get access to the site, the discounts, the ticket access, the deep pdf, and the mp3 of whatever is on the record.
Here to die.
Scared alive.
it's fine if you don't understand the term "exclusive", but I do.
www.headstonesband.com
6/18/03 Chicago-United Center
5/17/06 Chicago-United Center
7/19/13 Chicago-Wrigley Field
10/11/13 Pittsburgh-Consol Energy Center
10/17/14 Moline-IWireless Center (No Code)
10/20/14 Milwaukee-Bradley center (Yield)
4/26/16 Lexington-Rupp Arena
8/20/16 Chicago-Wrigley Field
8/22/16 Chicago-Wrigley Field
8/18/18 Chicago-Wrigley Field
8/20/18 Chicago-Wrigley Field
9/5/23 Chicago-United Center
9/7/23 Chicago-United Center
same old shit.
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The b-side will be exclusive. The record itself is exclusive. And the 10 club got the drop on the single 3-4 days before the general pop did. We didnt have to pay for it, and others did.
But again..."exclusive" isnt what it used to mean. the singles in 1994? Those were exclusive. They were on actual records, and the internet was not the sharing place that it is today.
Within minutes of downloading my song, it was already up on You Tube. I mean....how exclusive can you be with a digital song in this world now?
Here to die.
Scared alive.
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Apollo Theater 2022 • Chicago I 2023
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Madrid 2018
Werchter 2022
London 1 2022
London 2 2022
Krakow 2022
I apologize if it sounded like i "told people to calm down", even when I said, "this comment isnt directed at you then"
For cripes sake.
Here to die.
Scared alive.
Here to die.
Scared alive.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
you guys think its ok to bring a (insert month) old kid to a PJ show??
$10 bootleg code.
$10 vinyl single. ( then add shipping).
Tshirt or other gift. $10-15. ( then add shipping.)
Deep magazine $ (don't know what to price this)
chance to purchase exclusive Pearl Jam merchandise.
Chance for tickets.
If you break it all down it's not that much.
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Here to die.
Scared alive.