Abortion-Keep Legal, Yes or No?

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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 9,878
    Really? 

    A major step step backward for women’s health, especially given that many women don’t even know they are pregnant until close to that mark. I can’t help but assume that Mississippi also puts a bunch of roadblocks in the way that makes it even harder to access abortion prior to the deadline. 
     
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 46,807
    PJinIL said:
    PJinIL said:
    The whole argument about it being the woman's body is skewed to me. I don't have facts or articles to point to, but I'd believe the majority of decisions made about having an abortion are more about the lifestyle changes and obligations that come with parenthood, not the actual decision of whether the woman is worried about her physical being. So it becomes a decision of "do I want a baby or not?" That is a very different discussion than "do I fear for my life and birthing complications enough to abort?"

    Think of it this way, if a woman who finds herself pregnant could have the embryo/fetus/etc taken out to be developed to term in another environment, would she still want the baby? If she doesn't want the baby either way, I think that's a barometer for telling the woman she doesn't qualify for an abortion, it's totally elective and a selfish decision that does affect other people's lives. Thus, I believe in some injection (get it?) of father's rights in elective decisions. I do NOT believe a father should have authority to make the mother have an abortion.

    Not to say the decision isn't torturous, I thought my girlfriend in HS got pregnant and we were scared out of our minds when she was 3-4 days late. Over the next couple of days, neither of us could say it was right to think about having an abortion. Turns out, she got her period about 2 hours after we made the decision to keep it, much to our delight. Never been so happy to have a girlfriend with a period in my life!


    this is why most agree it should be legal, safe, and RARE. I don't think anyone is positing that some women abort out of fear of the possibility of complications. is that what you are saying?
    I guess what I'm saying is, I'm pro-life enough that I believe abortion should be for cases where there is a danger to the mother and/or baby. I honestly am not sure where I fall on the spectrum of say a married or committed couple that is using birth control and it fails. Thing is, there's really no way to know for sure. A couple that uses only condoms, but decides to make it feel extra good one night and gets pregnant could always say they used one. I couldn't choose to abort if I were in that situation, and would go the adoption route if I didn't want/wasn't able to raise it myself. 

    Someone has mentioned overpopulation, that's one issue I've pondered. I could get on board with policies to limit family size. Say 2 kids per household (number could be debatable). Over that, and you get taxed or something. Still have a choice, but somewhere along the line humans are going to have to be reasonable with resources or thin the population so we use less. I look around at the garbage in stores. Just crap that is being bought for $1 that will be used by some kid for 2 minutes, clutter a bedroom, and then become litter. Not to mention the resources and pollution generated to make the stuff. I'm no saint to the earth, but we do try to be conscious of what we use in our home, recycle what we can and try not to buy "fluff stuff" that we know isn't of real value. I digress.


    The kinds of controls you're talking about re family size just don't work. China taught us that. I think education is the best solution there, both in general and with the resulting higher incomes, but also just when it comes to teaching people family and socio-economics and shit like that. If we taught people from childhood that having more than a couple of kids is just fucking stupid and irresponsible in this day and age, then I bet that problem would likely kind of go away within a generation or two.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 9,878
    Really? 

    A major step step backward for women’s health, especially given that many women don’t even know they are pregnant until close to that mark. I can’t help but assume that Mississippi also puts a bunch of roadblocks in the way that makes it even harder to access abortion prior to the deadline. 
     

    Just found out further information on this topic that, unfortunately, confirms what I assumed.

    Mississippi has a single abortion clinic. Just one. One clinic for a population of 2.98 million people, spread over almost 50,000 square miles.

    Think about what that means for women trying to access abortion. Think about trying to arrange to get to that one clinic before the 15 week deadline, particularly if you are low income.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 19,851
    Really? 

    A major step step backward for women’s health, especially given that many women don’t even know they are pregnant until close to that mark. I can’t help but assume that Mississippi also puts a bunch of roadblocks in the way that makes it even harder to access abortion prior to the deadline. 
     

    Just found out further information on this topic that, unfortunately, confirms what I assumed.

    Mississippi has a single abortion clinic. Just one. One clinic for a population of 2.98 million people, spread over almost 50,000 square miles.

    Think about what that means for women trying to access abortion. Think about trying to arrange to get to that one clinic before the 15 week deadline, particularly if you are low income.
    Mississippi goddamn!
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  • dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 13,421
    Really? 

    A major step step backward for women’s health, especially given that many women don’t even know they are pregnant until close to that mark. I can’t help but assume that Mississippi also puts a bunch of roadblocks in the way that makes it even harder to access abortion prior to the deadline. 
     

    Just found out further information on this topic that, unfortunately, confirms what I assumed.

    Mississippi has a single abortion clinic. Just one. One clinic for a population of 2.98 million people, spread over almost 50,000 square miles.

    Think about what that means for women trying to access abortion. Think about trying to arrange to get to that one clinic before the 15 week deadline, particularly if you are low income.
    Mississippi goddamn!
    From a population control perspective, it’s OK. Their kids just shoot each other. 
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 9,832
    99% of the political strife in this country is caused by this issue.  If the "left", democrats, what have you were to just throw up their hands and let them have it... it would rip the fabric of time.  

    We would not have had Donald Trump, the Iraq War, and not nearly as much "division" if it weren't for this issue.  Many, many people vote on this one issue alone and use it as a litmus test as to who is the best candidate.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 19,851
    MayDay10 said:
    99% of the political strife in this country is caused by this issue.  If the "left", democrats, what have you were to just throw up their hands and let them have it... it would rip the fabric of time.  

    We would not have had Donald Trump, the Iraq War, and not nearly as much "division" if it weren't for this issue.  Many, many people vote on this one issue alone and use it as a litmus test as to who is the best candidate.  
    If you think the “pro life until you’re born” crowd would stop there, I’ve got a drained swamp I’ll sell you.
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 9,832
    There will still be a large number of people clinging to guns and bibles, and will eat up when someone like Donald Trump pretends to be a holy roller.... but if the issue of abortion was removed, it would kick the legs out enough where Republicans (as they currently stand) would never win a National election, and also flip a lot of congressional seats.  
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 9,878
    MayDay10 said:
    There will still be a large number of people clinging to guns and bibles, and will eat up when someone like Donald Trump pretends to be a holy roller.... but if the issue of abortion was removed, it would kick the legs out enough where Republicans (as they currently stand) would never win a National election, and also flip a lot of congressional seats.  
    Abortion is one of the major dividing issues, it’s true, though I’m not sure I agree with your assessment here. But if it were true, are you suggesting that “let them have it” is a preferred option? Because if you are, you’re willing to give up on a major feature of women’s health and women’s rights just to placate those who want to continue to restrict women’s “place” in society. And I agree with Halifax, it would not end there. 
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 4,926
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    MayDay10 said:
    There will still be a large number of people clinging to guns and bibles, and will eat up when someone like Donald Trump pretends to be a holy roller.... but if the issue of abortion was removed, it would kick the legs out enough where Republicans (as they currently stand) would never win a National election, and also flip a lot of congressional seats.  
    You may actually be on to something.  Just the other day, I heard a diehard conservative say that they would support an assault weapon ban if an abortion ban was also tied to it...
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 19,851
    PJPOWER said:
    MayDay10 said:
    There will still be a large number of people clinging to guns and bibles, and will eat up when someone like Donald Trump pretends to be a holy roller.... but if the issue of abortion was removed, it would kick the legs out enough where Republicans (as they currently stand) would never win a National election, and also flip a lot of congressional seats.  
    You may actually be on to something.  Just the other day, I heard a diehard conservative say that they would support an assault weapon ban if an abortion ban was also tied to it...
    But handguns kill the most people.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 4,926
    PJPOWER said:
    MayDay10 said:
    There will still be a large number of people clinging to guns and bibles, and will eat up when someone like Donald Trump pretends to be a holy roller.... but if the issue of abortion was removed, it would kick the legs out enough where Republicans (as they currently stand) would never win a National election, and also flip a lot of congressional seats.  
    You may actually be on to something.  Just the other day, I heard a diehard conservative say that they would support an assault weapon ban if an abortion ban was also tied to it...
    But handguns kill the most people.
    ??? Your point is?  Is there a big push to ban handguns right now that I’m not aware of?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 19,851
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    MayDay10 said:
    There will still be a large number of people clinging to guns and bibles, and will eat up when someone like Donald Trump pretends to be a holy roller.... but if the issue of abortion was removed, it would kick the legs out enough where Republicans (as they currently stand) would never win a National election, and also flip a lot of congressional seats.  
    You may actually be on to something.  Just the other day, I heard a diehard conservative say that they would support an assault weapon ban if an abortion ban was also tied to it...
    But handguns kill the most people.
    ??? Your point is?  Is there a big push to ban handguns right now that I’m not aware of?
    No, just pointing out that giving up abortion rights in exchange for banning one type of firearm wouldn’t be a fair trade, IMHO. Relax.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 4,926
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    MayDay10 said:
    There will still be a large number of people clinging to guns and bibles, and will eat up when someone like Donald Trump pretends to be a holy roller.... but if the issue of abortion was removed, it would kick the legs out enough where Republicans (as they currently stand) would never win a National election, and also flip a lot of congressional seats.  
    You may actually be on to something.  Just the other day, I heard a diehard conservative say that they would support an assault weapon ban if an abortion ban was also tied to it...
    But handguns kill the most people.
    ??? Your point is?  Is there a big push to ban handguns right now that I’m not aware of?
    No, just pointing out that giving up abortion rights in exchange for banning one type of firearm wouldn’t be a fair trade, IMHO. Relax.
    Oh, okay.  Just repeating what I overheard...relax.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 4,926
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    MayDay10 said:
    There will still be a large number of people clinging to guns and bibles, and will eat up when someone like Donald Trump pretends to be a holy roller.... but if the issue of abortion was removed, it would kick the legs out enough where Republicans (as they currently stand) would never win a National election, and also flip a lot of congressional seats.  
    You may actually be on to something.  Just the other day, I heard a diehard conservative say that they would support an assault weapon ban if an abortion ban was also tied to it...
    But handguns kill the most people.
    ??? Your point is?  Is there a big push to ban handguns right now that I’m not aware of?
    No, just pointing out that giving up abortion rights in exchange for banning one type of firearm wouldn’t be a fair trade, IMHO. Relax.
    Oh, okay.  Just repeating what I overheard...relax.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 4,926
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    MayDay10 said:
    There will still be a large number of people clinging to guns and bibles, and will eat up when someone like Donald Trump pretends to be a holy roller.... but if the issue of abortion was removed, it would kick the legs out enough where Republicans (as they currently stand) would never win a National election, and also flip a lot of congressional seats.  
    You may actually be on to something.  Just the other day, I heard a diehard conservative say that they would support an assault weapon ban if an abortion ban was also tied to it...
    But handguns kill the most people.
    ??? Your point is?  Is there a big push to ban handguns right now that I’m not aware of?
    No, just pointing out that giving up abortion rights in exchange for banning one type of firearm wouldn’t be a fair trade, IMHO. Relax.
    Oh, okay.  Just repeating what I overheard...relax.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 9,878
    PJPOWER said:
    MayDay10 said:
    There will still be a large number of people clinging to guns and bibles, and will eat up when someone like Donald Trump pretends to be a holy roller.... but if the issue of abortion was removed, it would kick the legs out enough where Republicans (as they currently stand) would never win a National election, and also flip a lot of congressional seats.  
    You may actually be on to something.  Just the other day, I heard a diehard conservative say that they would support an assault weapon ban if an abortion ban was also tied to it...
    Wonderful. Let's just throw women under the bus again. I'm sure that for a conservative, that makes some sort of sense. 
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  • PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    MayDay10 said:
    There will still be a large number of people clinging to guns and bibles, and will eat up when someone like Donald Trump pretends to be a holy roller.... but if the issue of abortion was removed, it would kick the legs out enough where Republicans (as they currently stand) would never win a National election, and also flip a lot of congressional seats.  
    You may actually be on to something.  Just the other day, I heard a diehard conservative say that they would support an assault weapon ban if an abortion ban was also tied to it...
    But handguns kill the most people.
    ??? Your point is?  Is there a big push to ban handguns right now that I’m not aware of?
    No, just pointing out that giving up abortion rights in exchange for banning one type of firearm wouldn’t be a fair trade, IMHO. Relax.
    Oh, okay.  Just repeating what I overheard...relax.

    Wow.

    You stated this three times to really get him lol.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 4,926
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    MayDay10 said:
    There will still be a large number of people clinging to guns and bibles, and will eat up when someone like Donald Trump pretends to be a holy roller.... but if the issue of abortion was removed, it would kick the legs out enough where Republicans (as they currently stand) would never win a National election, and also flip a lot of congressional seats.  
    You may actually be on to something.  Just the other day, I heard a diehard conservative say that they would support an assault weapon ban if an abortion ban was also tied to it...
    But handguns kill the most people.
    ??? Your point is?  Is there a big push to ban handguns right now that I’m not aware of?
    No, just pointing out that giving up abortion rights in exchange for banning one type of firearm wouldn’t be a fair trade, IMHO. Relax.
    Oh, okay.  Just repeating what I overheard...relax.

    Wow.

    You stated this three times to really get him lol.
    Lol, I didn’t realize it triple posted!  Take that Halifax2TheMax, lol ;)

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 18,020
    PJPOWER said:
    MayDay10 said:
    There will still be a large number of people clinging to guns and bibles, and will eat up when someone like Donald Trump pretends to be a holy roller.... but if the issue of abortion was removed, it would kick the legs out enough where Republicans (as they currently stand) would never win a National election, and also flip a lot of congressional seats.  
    You may actually be on to something.  Just the other day, I heard a diehard conservative say that they would support an assault weapon ban if an abortion ban was also tied to it...
    Wonderful. Let's just throw women under the bus again. I'm sure that for a conservative, that makes some sort of sense. 
    and this is the inner workings of the brain of some conservatives. Ban a SMALL PORTION of guns and ban ALL abortions. Take away the rights of all women to have control over their own bodies, but let all the 2A-ers potentially have control over someone else's right to LIFE for their stupid need for larger penis. 
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 4,926
    PJPOWER said:
    MayDay10 said:
    There will still be a large number of people clinging to guns and bibles, and will eat up when someone like Donald Trump pretends to be a holy roller.... but if the issue of abortion was removed, it would kick the legs out enough where Republicans (as they currently stand) would never win a National election, and also flip a lot of congressional seats.  
    You may actually be on to something.  Just the other day, I heard a diehard conservative say that they would support an assault weapon ban if an abortion ban was also tied to it...
    Wonderful. Let's just throw women under the bus again. I'm sure that for a conservative, that makes some sort of sense. 
    and this is the inner workings of the brain of some conservatives. Ban a SMALL PORTION of guns and ban ALL abortions. Take away the rights of all women to have control over their own bodies, but let all the 2A-ers potentially have control over someone else's right to LIFE for their stupid need for larger penis. 
    Is that why women own guns, because they wish they had a large penis?  I never knew.  I forgot to mention that the person that made the statement was, in fact, a woman.  
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 18,020
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    MayDay10 said:
    There will still be a large number of people clinging to guns and bibles, and will eat up when someone like Donald Trump pretends to be a holy roller.... but if the issue of abortion was removed, it would kick the legs out enough where Republicans (as they currently stand) would never win a National election, and also flip a lot of congressional seats.  
    You may actually be on to something.  Just the other day, I heard a diehard conservative say that they would support an assault weapon ban if an abortion ban was also tied to it...
    Wonderful. Let's just throw women under the bus again. I'm sure that for a conservative, that makes some sort of sense. 
    and this is the inner workings of the brain of some conservatives. Ban a SMALL PORTION of guns and ban ALL abortions. Take away the rights of all women to have control over their own bodies, but let all the 2A-ers potentially have control over someone else's right to LIFE for their stupid need for larger penis. 
    Is that why women own guns, because they wish they had a large penis?  I never knew.  I forgot to mention that the person that made the statement was, in fact, a woman.  
    LOL. just in good fun in case you or mcgruff saw it. 
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 9,878
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    MayDay10 said:
    There will still be a large number of people clinging to guns and bibles, and will eat up when someone like Donald Trump pretends to be a holy roller.... but if the issue of abortion was removed, it would kick the legs out enough where Republicans (as they currently stand) would never win a National election, and also flip a lot of congressional seats.  
    You may actually be on to something.  Just the other day, I heard a diehard conservative say that they would support an assault weapon ban if an abortion ban was also tied to it...
    Wonderful. Let's just throw women under the bus again. I'm sure that for a conservative, that makes some sort of sense. 
    and this is the inner workings of the brain of some conservatives. Ban a SMALL PORTION of guns and ban ALL abortions. Take away the rights of all women to have control over their own bodies, but let all the 2A-ers potentially have control over someone else's right to LIFE for their stupid need for larger penis. 
    Is that why women own guns, because they wish they had a large penis?  I never knew.  I forgot to mention that the person that made the statement was, in fact, a woman.  

    Totally immaterial whether the person who made the statement was a woman or not.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 4,926
    edited March 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    MayDay10 said:
    There will still be a large number of people clinging to guns and bibles, and will eat up when someone like Donald Trump pretends to be a holy roller.... but if the issue of abortion was removed, it would kick the legs out enough where Republicans (as they currently stand) would never win a National election, and also flip a lot of congressional seats.  
    You may actually be on to something.  Just the other day, I heard a diehard conservative say that they would support an assault weapon ban if an abortion ban was also tied to it...
    Wonderful. Let's just throw women under the bus again. I'm sure that for a conservative, that makes some sort of sense. 
    and this is the inner workings of the brain of some conservatives. Ban a SMALL PORTION of guns and ban ALL abortions. Take away the rights of all women to have control over their own bodies, but let all the 2A-ers potentially have control over someone else's right to LIFE for their stupid need for larger penis. 
    Is that why women own guns, because they wish they had a large penis?  I never knew.  I forgot to mention that the person that made the statement was, in fact, a woman.  
    LOL. just in good fun in case you or mcgruff saw it. 
    Of course, “bro” :). All joking aside, though, I hear this get thrown out quite a bit as if the only people that own guns or are anti-abortion are men.  Some of the most outspoken gun rights and anti-abortion people I know are women.
    Knowing this, it always struck me as ironic when people go on about anti-abortion activists, portraying them as “old white men” or gun owners are said to have small penises.  Maybe the women are compensating for dry vaginas or? Lol

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 18,020
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    MayDay10 said:
    There will still be a large number of people clinging to guns and bibles, and will eat up when someone like Donald Trump pretends to be a holy roller.... but if the issue of abortion was removed, it would kick the legs out enough where Republicans (as they currently stand) would never win a National election, and also flip a lot of congressional seats.  
    You may actually be on to something.  Just the other day, I heard a diehard conservative say that they would support an assault weapon ban if an abortion ban was also tied to it...
    Wonderful. Let's just throw women under the bus again. I'm sure that for a conservative, that makes some sort of sense. 
    and this is the inner workings of the brain of some conservatives. Ban a SMALL PORTION of guns and ban ALL abortions. Take away the rights of all women to have control over their own bodies, but let all the 2A-ers potentially have control over someone else's right to LIFE for their stupid need for larger penis. 
    Is that why women own guns, because they wish they had a large penis?  I never knew.  I forgot to mention that the person that made the statement was, in fact, a woman.  
    LOL. just in good fun in case you or mcgruff saw it. 
    Of course, “bro” :). All joking aside, though, I hear this get thrown out quite a bit as if the only people that own guns or are anti-abortion are men.  Some of the most outspoken gun rights and anti-abortion people I know are women.
    Knowing this, it always struck me as ironic when people go on about anti-abortion activists, portraying them as “old white men” or gun owners are said to have small penises.  Maybe the women are compensating for dry vaginas or? Lol

    because the vast majority are from that group. not to mention that group founded both of those movements. of course there is going to be some crossover, but by and large, you haven't seen any women of that ilk rise to power like say Mike Pence. 
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 4,926
    edited March 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    MayDay10 said:
    There will still be a large number of people clinging to guns and bibles, and will eat up when someone like Donald Trump pretends to be a holy roller.... but if the issue of abortion was removed, it would kick the legs out enough where Republicans (as they currently stand) would never win a National election, and also flip a lot of congressional seats.  
    You may actually be on to something.  Just the other day, I heard a diehard conservative say that they would support an assault weapon ban if an abortion ban was also tied to it...
    Wonderful. Let's just throw women under the bus again. I'm sure that for a conservative, that makes some sort of sense. 
    and this is the inner workings of the brain of some conservatives. Ban a SMALL PORTION of guns and ban ALL abortions. Take away the rights of all women to have control over their own bodies, but let all the 2A-ers potentially have control over someone else's right to LIFE for their stupid need for larger penis. 
    Is that why women own guns, because they wish they had a large penis?  I never knew.  I forgot to mention that the person that made the statement was, in fact, a woman.  
    LOL. just in good fun in case you or mcgruff saw it. 
    Of course, “bro” :). All joking aside, though, I hear this get thrown out quite a bit as if the only people that own guns or are anti-abortion are men.  Some of the most outspoken gun rights and anti-abortion people I know are women.
    Knowing this, it always struck me as ironic when people go on about anti-abortion activists, portraying them as “old white men” or gun owners are said to have small penises.  Maybe the women are compensating for dry vaginas or? Lol

    because the vast majority are from that group. not to mention that group founded both of those movements. of course there is going to be some crossover, but by and large, you haven't seen any women of that ilk rise to power like say Mike Pence. 
    Possibly, I guess I always saw it as more of a conservative vs liberal battle than a male vs female.  And there are plenty of female conservatives out there that aided in the rise to power of people like Pence.
    IDK, if it is truly just a “woman’s body” issue, then maybe we should put it to a female only vote.  Women only voting on whether or not abortion should be allowed?  I’m not 100% sure that the outcome would lean the way the pro-choicers hope in that case, though.

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 18,020
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    MayDay10 said:
    There will still be a large number of people clinging to guns and bibles, and will eat up when someone like Donald Trump pretends to be a holy roller.... but if the issue of abortion was removed, it would kick the legs out enough where Republicans (as they currently stand) would never win a National election, and also flip a lot of congressional seats.  
    You may actually be on to something.  Just the other day, I heard a diehard conservative say that they would support an assault weapon ban if an abortion ban was also tied to it...
    Wonderful. Let's just throw women under the bus again. I'm sure that for a conservative, that makes some sort of sense. 
    and this is the inner workings of the brain of some conservatives. Ban a SMALL PORTION of guns and ban ALL abortions. Take away the rights of all women to have control over their own bodies, but let all the 2A-ers potentially have control over someone else's right to LIFE for their stupid need for larger penis. 
    Is that why women own guns, because they wish they had a large penis?  I never knew.  I forgot to mention that the person that made the statement was, in fact, a woman.  
    LOL. just in good fun in case you or mcgruff saw it. 
    Of course, “bro” :). All joking aside, though, I hear this get thrown out quite a bit as if the only people that own guns or are anti-abortion are men.  Some of the most outspoken gun rights and anti-abortion people I know are women.
    Knowing this, it always struck me as ironic when people go on about anti-abortion activists, portraying them as “old white men” or gun owners are said to have small penises.  Maybe the women are compensating for dry vaginas or? Lol

    because the vast majority are from that group. not to mention that group founded both of those movements. of course there is going to be some crossover, but by and large, you haven't seen any women of that ilk rise to power like say Mike Pence. 
    Possibly, I guess I always saw it as more of a conservative vs liberal battle than a male vs female.  And there are plenty of female conservatives out there that aided in the rise to power of people like Pence.
    of course, because many of them believe that a woman "has her place", and promote it. I would say that the abortion issue has become more of a con v lib battle, whereas it started as a lib female v most males battle. 
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 9,878
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    MayDay10 said:
    There will still be a large number of people clinging to guns and bibles, and will eat up when someone like Donald Trump pretends to be a holy roller.... but if the issue of abortion was removed, it would kick the legs out enough where Republicans (as they currently stand) would never win a National election, and also flip a lot of congressional seats.  
    You may actually be on to something.  Just the other day, I heard a diehard conservative say that they would support an assault weapon ban if an abortion ban was also tied to it...
    Wonderful. Let's just throw women under the bus again. I'm sure that for a conservative, that makes some sort of sense. 
    and this is the inner workings of the brain of some conservatives. Ban a SMALL PORTION of guns and ban ALL abortions. Take away the rights of all women to have control over their own bodies, but let all the 2A-ers potentially have control over someone else's right to LIFE for their stupid need for larger penis. 
    Is that why women own guns, because they wish they had a large penis?  I never knew.  I forgot to mention that the person that made the statement was, in fact, a woman.  
    LOL. just in good fun in case you or mcgruff saw it. 
    Of course, “bro” :). All joking aside, though, I hear this get thrown out quite a bit as if the only people that own guns or are anti-abortion are men.  Some of the most outspoken gun rights and anti-abortion people I know are women.
    Knowing this, it always struck me as ironic when people go on about anti-abortion activists, portraying them as “old white men” or gun owners are said to have small penises.  Maybe the women are compensating for dry vaginas or? Lol

    because the vast majority are from that group. not to mention that group founded both of those movements. of course there is going to be some crossover, but by and large, you haven't seen any women of that ilk rise to power like say Mike Pence. 
    Possibly, I guess I always saw it as more of a conservative vs liberal battle than a male vs female.  And there are plenty of female conservatives out there that aided in the rise to power of people like Pence.
    of course, because many of them believe that a woman "has her place", and promote it. I would say that the abortion issue has become more of a con v lib battle, whereas it started as a lib female v most males battle. 
    Fueled by a religion that explicitly puts the decision making power with men, including decisions about women’s bodies 
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 4,926
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    MayDay10 said:
    There will still be a large number of people clinging to guns and bibles, and will eat up when someone like Donald Trump pretends to be a holy roller.... but if the issue of abortion was removed, it would kick the legs out enough where Republicans (as they currently stand) would never win a National election, and also flip a lot of congressional seats.  
    You may actually be on to something.  Just the other day, I heard a diehard conservative say that they would support an assault weapon ban if an abortion ban was also tied to it...
    Wonderful. Let's just throw women under the bus again. I'm sure that for a conservative, that makes some sort of sense. 
    and this is the inner workings of the brain of some conservatives. Ban a SMALL PORTION of guns and ban ALL abortions. Take away the rights of all women to have control over their own bodies, but let all the 2A-ers potentially have control over someone else's right to LIFE for their stupid need for larger penis. 
    Is that why women own guns, because they wish they had a large penis?  I never knew.  I forgot to mention that the person that made the statement was, in fact, a woman.  
    LOL. just in good fun in case you or mcgruff saw it. 
    Of course, “bro” :). All joking aside, though, I hear this get thrown out quite a bit as if the only people that own guns or are anti-abortion are men.  Some of the most outspoken gun rights and anti-abortion people I know are women.
    Knowing this, it always struck me as ironic when people go on about anti-abortion activists, portraying them as “old white men” or gun owners are said to have small penises.  Maybe the women are compensating for dry vaginas or? Lol

    because the vast majority are from that group. not to mention that group founded both of those movements. of course there is going to be some crossover, but by and large, you haven't seen any women of that ilk rise to power like say Mike Pence. 
    Possibly, I guess I always saw it as more of a conservative vs liberal battle than a male vs female.  And there are plenty of female conservatives out there that aided in the rise to power of people like Pence.
    of course, because many of them believe that a woman "has her place", and promote it. I would say that the abortion issue has become more of a con v lib battle, whereas it started as a lib female v most males battle. 
    Right, and you beat me in your reply before I made my last edit.  I wonder how a “woman only vote” would turn out on the abortion issue.  I bet it would have some surprising outcomes, but I could be wrong.
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  • Are there no Christian 'liberals'?

    Exceptions aside... I see this issue as predominantly a religious one where the values espoused by the cult are trying to be imposed on society as a whole.  
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