Let’s see those pedals?

DewieCox

I dig the Strymon stuff I’ve used. El Cap and Blue Sky are about as good as it gets for those sounds on pedal format. My Volante is a beast and the Nightsky is much more than just a soundscape tool, one of my favorite verbs I’ve owned and I’m not scoring any movies any time soon. So easy to get lost in just the quality of sounds.

dudeman

DewieCox said:

I dig the Strymon stuff I’ve used. El Cap and Blue Sky are about as good as it gets for those sounds on pedal format. My Volante is a beast and the Nightsky is much more than just a soundscape tool, one of my favorite verbs I’ve owned and I’m not scoring any movies any time soon. So easy to get lost in just the quality of sounds.

Oh yeah man. It's great sounding gear for sure. A buddy of mine uses the Big Sky, Flint, Dig, El Capistan and Iridium on his board along with a bunch of other top tier effects. 

It comes down to simplicity for me. The Big Sky has what, 300 presets? Tons of great tones for spacey, ambient stuff, which is really his style. 

I'm more of a dirty rock and roll player myself so the Strymon stuff isn't really aimed at me anyway. 

That Flint has the best sounding harmonic tremolo I've ever heard. Ever.

Didn't mean to knock it! No offense intended!

static111

Rebuilding after a sell off a couple years ago.  Was looking for something that wasn’t the usual verb.  This thing has a wide range of tone and definitely gets the outboard tube reverb sound right.  In the past I’d been happy with the Malekko Spring Chicken which is now discontinued and the Catalinbread Topanga.  Both great pedals, but I felt like trying something new.  Glad I did, it sounds as good as it looks.

dudeman

static111 said:

Rebuilding after a sell off a couple years ago.  Was looking for something that wasn’t the usual verb.  This thing has a wide range of tone and definitely gets the outboard tube reverb sound right.  In the past I’d been happy with the Malekko Spring Chicken which is now discontinued and the Catalinbread Topanga.  Both great pedals, but I felt like trying something new.  Glad I did, it sounds as good as it looks.

Nice! Looks good!

I've seen a fair amount of their pedals but no firsthand experience. 

static111

dudeman said:

static111 said:

Rebuilding after a sell off a couple years ago.  Was looking for something that wasn’t the usual verb.  This thing has a wide range of tone and definitely gets the outboard tube reverb sound right.  In the past I’d been happy with the Malekko Spring Chicken which is now discontinued and the Catalinbread Topanga.  Both great pedals, but I felt like trying something new.  Glad I did, it sounds as good as it looks.

Nice! Looks good!

I've seen a fair amount of their pedals but no firsthand experience. 

I went out on a limb based on some demos on YouTube.  Glad I did.  There is one by a famous pedal reviewer named Andy and at the end he wails on Welfare Mother’s by Crazy Horse and that sealed the deal for me! 

  Next on my list is a fuzz pedal, I’m looking for something that will get that nasty garage rock sound that is warm and not too ice picky. Any recommendations would be great.

dudeman

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i watched a handful of youtube videos that compared several power supplies and that guided my decision as much as anything else.

mainly the videos, the inclusion of cables and adapters, the ability to power 15 pedals, and the adjustable voltage is what i based my decision on.

Thanks for that. That's how I arrived at the Walrus too. I have exactly 15 powered devices on my guitar board and just about every other brand would require me to buy two separate power supplies. 

I'm excited to get this wired up when it gets here. Right now, all of my pedals are daisy chained with 1-Spots. It works well and I don't have noise issues in my house but I'll start playing outside of my home pretty soon. 

I don't have any interest in Strymon either. Actually, just about all digital pedals I tend to stay away from. Right now, all of the pedals on my guitar board are analog and they're all American made too. That's another thing that led me to the Phoenix. 

Thanks for the input!

you're welcome man. i hope you like it. i would recommend it to anybody even though it was the first one i tried. yes it was a little more expensive than the other options, but the way i figure it, i would rather pay a premium for something that is simple, reliable, and user friendly.

it sounds like it was meant to be with the exact number of outputs!

i thought about the need for multiple power supplies too. i wanted to have the ability to expand my board if need be. the holeyboard allows for it to be expanded, but i did not want to have to buy a 2nd power supply and attach it to the board, potentially have to deal with a 2nd power plug, etc.. 15 pedals would probably be the max i would ever want to use. 16 since by boss tuner can power another 9 volt pedal on its own if i were to get in a pinch and absolutely need to power a 16th pedal.

before i put this board together i had 9 pedals daisy chained on a 1 spot. i immediately noticed that my board sounded better when each pedal had its own power supply using the walrus. i think you will be able to tell a difference as well. especially when you start playing outside of the home. the best way i could describe it is with the 1 spot daisy chain it sounded like some of the pedals were "dying", if you know what i mean.

don't get me wrong. strymon is good stuff, but i do not like it because it requires over 120 MA and higher voltage, they are digital, and they are way too versatile and complex for my brain. i would rather have fewer knobs on something analog and just dial in from there. as i get older, simplicity wins. i do not have the energy to deal with something super complex. i just want something reliable that is easy to troubleshoot if i have an issue, and sounds good.

definitely let us know what you think of the phoenix.

i love how we are all sharing info and learning from each other on here. 

Got the new power supply all mounted and wired up. Sounds pretty much like the daisy chain. Having clean power in my house helped the previous set up and I didn't have any issues with noise. Also, all of my pedals are pretty low current circuits. 

Honestly, I didn't expect there to be a night and day difference. It might be a little tiny bit quieter at loud volumes but the real benefits will be apparent when I play elsewhere. Also, I really like having the IEC power running into the board instead of the tiny 9v wire from the 1Spot.

Thanks for your input!

gimmesometruth27

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i watched a handful of youtube videos that compared several power supplies and that guided my decision as much as anything else.

mainly the videos, the inclusion of cables and adapters, the ability to power 15 pedals, and the adjustable voltage is what i based my decision on.

Thanks for that. That's how I arrived at the Walrus too. I have exactly 15 powered devices on my guitar board and just about every other brand would require me to buy two separate power supplies. 

I'm excited to get this wired up when it gets here. Right now, all of my pedals are daisy chained with 1-Spots. It works well and I don't have noise issues in my house but I'll start playing outside of my home pretty soon. 

I don't have any interest in Strymon either. Actually, just about all digital pedals I tend to stay away from. Right now, all of the pedals on my guitar board are analog and they're all American made too. That's another thing that led me to the Phoenix. 

Thanks for the input!

you're welcome man. i hope you like it. i would recommend it to anybody even though it was the first one i tried. yes it was a little more expensive than the other options, but the way i figure it, i would rather pay a premium for something that is simple, reliable, and user friendly.

it sounds like it was meant to be with the exact number of outputs!

i thought about the need for multiple power supplies too. i wanted to have the ability to expand my board if need be. the holeyboard allows for it to be expanded, but i did not want to have to buy a 2nd power supply and attach it to the board, potentially have to deal with a 2nd power plug, etc.. 15 pedals would probably be the max i would ever want to use. 16 since by boss tuner can power another 9 volt pedal on its own if i were to get in a pinch and absolutely need to power a 16th pedal.

before i put this board together i had 9 pedals daisy chained on a 1 spot. i immediately noticed that my board sounded better when each pedal had its own power supply using the walrus. i think you will be able to tell a difference as well. especially when you start playing outside of the home. the best way i could describe it is with the 1 spot daisy chain it sounded like some of the pedals were "dying", if you know what i mean.

don't get me wrong. strymon is good stuff, but i do not like it because it requires over 120 MA and higher voltage, they are digital, and they are way too versatile and complex for my brain. i would rather have fewer knobs on something analog and just dial in from there. as i get older, simplicity wins. i do not have the energy to deal with something super complex. i just want something reliable that is easy to troubleshoot if i have an issue, and sounds good.

definitely let us know what you think of the phoenix.

i love how we are all sharing info and learning from each other on here. 

Got the new power supply all mounted and wired up. Sounds pretty much like the daisy chain. Having clean power in my house helped the previous set up and I didn't have any issues with noise. Also, all of my pedals are pretty low current circuits. 

Honestly, I didn't expect there to be a night and day difference. It might be a little tiny bit quieter at loud volumes but the real benefits will be apparent when I play elsewhere. Also, I really like having the IEC power running into the board instead of the tiny 9v wire from the 1Spot.

Thanks for your input!

no problem man. hopefully you will be able to tell a difference to be able to justify the expense. 

dudeman

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i watched a handful of youtube videos that compared several power supplies and that guided my decision as much as anything else.

mainly the videos, the inclusion of cables and adapters, the ability to power 15 pedals, and the adjustable voltage is what i based my decision on.

Thanks for that. That's how I arrived at the Walrus too. I have exactly 15 powered devices on my guitar board and just about every other brand would require me to buy two separate power supplies. 

I'm excited to get this wired up when it gets here. Right now, all of my pedals are daisy chained with 1-Spots. It works well and I don't have noise issues in my house but I'll start playing outside of my home pretty soon. 

I don't have any interest in Strymon either. Actually, just about all digital pedals I tend to stay away from. Right now, all of the pedals on my guitar board are analog and they're all American made too. That's another thing that led me to the Phoenix. 

Thanks for the input!

you're welcome man. i hope you like it. i would recommend it to anybody even though it was the first one i tried. yes it was a little more expensive than the other options, but the way i figure it, i would rather pay a premium for something that is simple, reliable, and user friendly.

it sounds like it was meant to be with the exact number of outputs!

i thought about the need for multiple power supplies too. i wanted to have the ability to expand my board if need be. the holeyboard allows for it to be expanded, but i did not want to have to buy a 2nd power supply and attach it to the board, potentially have to deal with a 2nd power plug, etc.. 15 pedals would probably be the max i would ever want to use. 16 since by boss tuner can power another 9 volt pedal on its own if i were to get in a pinch and absolutely need to power a 16th pedal.

before i put this board together i had 9 pedals daisy chained on a 1 spot. i immediately noticed that my board sounded better when each pedal had its own power supply using the walrus. i think you will be able to tell a difference as well. especially when you start playing outside of the home. the best way i could describe it is with the 1 spot daisy chain it sounded like some of the pedals were "dying", if you know what i mean.

don't get me wrong. strymon is good stuff, but i do not like it because it requires over 120 MA and higher voltage, they are digital, and they are way too versatile and complex for my brain. i would rather have fewer knobs on something analog and just dial in from there. as i get older, simplicity wins. i do not have the energy to deal with something super complex. i just want something reliable that is easy to troubleshoot if i have an issue, and sounds good.

definitely let us know what you think of the phoenix.

i love how we are all sharing info and learning from each other on here. 

Got the new power supply all mounted and wired up. Sounds pretty much like the daisy chain. Having clean power in my house helped the previous set up and I didn't have any issues with noise. Also, all of my pedals are pretty low current circuits. 

Honestly, I didn't expect there to be a night and day difference. It might be a little tiny bit quieter at loud volumes but the real benefits will be apparent when I play elsewhere. Also, I really like having the IEC power running into the board instead of the tiny 9v wire from the 1Spot.

Thanks for your input!

no problem man. hopefully you will be able to tell a difference to be able to justify the expense. 

Actually, a difference made itself known today. My chorus pedal is making funky noises when I turn it on. The sound is there even with the strings muted. No other pedals turned on and the noise changes with the Rate control on the pedal.

I swapped out cables, experimented with placement and put another chorus pedal in its place which doesn't have any issues. 

I also re-ran the 1-Spot daisy chain like I had before and there is no noise.

Proximity interference from one of the transformers in the Phoenix and that particular pedal is my guess. Never seen anything like it. 

Ended up using a different chorus pedal on that board and sticking the problem pedal on a smaller board with a daisy chain. Works great!

gimmesometruth27

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i watched a handful of youtube videos that compared several power supplies and that guided my decision as much as anything else.

mainly the videos, the inclusion of cables and adapters, the ability to power 15 pedals, and the adjustable voltage is what i based my decision on.

Thanks for that. That's how I arrived at the Walrus too. I have exactly 15 powered devices on my guitar board and just about every other brand would require me to buy two separate power supplies. 

I'm excited to get this wired up when it gets here. Right now, all of my pedals are daisy chained with 1-Spots. It works well and I don't have noise issues in my house but I'll start playing outside of my home pretty soon. 

I don't have any interest in Strymon either. Actually, just about all digital pedals I tend to stay away from. Right now, all of the pedals on my guitar board are analog and they're all American made too. That's another thing that led me to the Phoenix. 

Thanks for the input!

you're welcome man. i hope you like it. i would recommend it to anybody even though it was the first one i tried. yes it was a little more expensive than the other options, but the way i figure it, i would rather pay a premium for something that is simple, reliable, and user friendly.

it sounds like it was meant to be with the exact number of outputs!

i thought about the need for multiple power supplies too. i wanted to have the ability to expand my board if need be. the holeyboard allows for it to be expanded, but i did not want to have to buy a 2nd power supply and attach it to the board, potentially have to deal with a 2nd power plug, etc.. 15 pedals would probably be the max i would ever want to use. 16 since by boss tuner can power another 9 volt pedal on its own if i were to get in a pinch and absolutely need to power a 16th pedal.

before i put this board together i had 9 pedals daisy chained on a 1 spot. i immediately noticed that my board sounded better when each pedal had its own power supply using the walrus. i think you will be able to tell a difference as well. especially when you start playing outside of the home. the best way i could describe it is with the 1 spot daisy chain it sounded like some of the pedals were "dying", if you know what i mean.

don't get me wrong. strymon is good stuff, but i do not like it because it requires over 120 MA and higher voltage, they are digital, and they are way too versatile and complex for my brain. i would rather have fewer knobs on something analog and just dial in from there. as i get older, simplicity wins. i do not have the energy to deal with something super complex. i just want something reliable that is easy to troubleshoot if i have an issue, and sounds good.

definitely let us know what you think of the phoenix.

i love how we are all sharing info and learning from each other on here. 

Got the new power supply all mounted and wired up. Sounds pretty much like the daisy chain. Having clean power in my house helped the previous set up and I didn't have any issues with noise. Also, all of my pedals are pretty low current circuits. 

Honestly, I didn't expect there to be a night and day difference. It might be a little tiny bit quieter at loud volumes but the real benefits will be apparent when I play elsewhere. Also, I really like having the IEC power running into the board instead of the tiny 9v wire from the 1Spot.

Thanks for your input!

no problem man. hopefully you will be able to tell a difference to be able to justify the expense. 

Actually, a difference made itself known today. My chorus pedal is making funky noises when I turn it on. The sound is there even with the strings muted. No other pedals turned on and the noise changes with the Rate control on the pedal.

I swapped out cables, experimented with placement and put another chorus pedal in its place which doesn't have any issues. 

I also re-ran the 1-Spot daisy chain like I had before and there is no noise.

Proximity interference from one of the transformers in the Phoenix and that particular pedal is my guess. Never seen anything like it. 

Ended up using a different chorus pedal on that board and sticking the problem pedal on a smaller board with a daisy chain. Works great!

that is strange. i have not had any noise issues at all with this new board. are you plugged into the proper power outlet from the phoenix? I know some of those modulation pedals require more mA and if they are not getting enough juice they can act up. maybe try plugging it into the i think 300 mA designed for higher power needs such as a strymon.

i do have some pedals that are kind of noisy, like the reverb side of my henretta trembletank that just makes a loud hiss when strings are muted, but per the pedal builder that is part of the design. if i am going through an amp that is set to be a little cleaner it is not as pronounced. but if i use that pedal with my JMP it is too noisy. i ended up having to take it off of the board i use with that JMP.

dudeman

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i watched a handful of youtube videos that compared several power supplies and that guided my decision as much as anything else.

mainly the videos, the inclusion of cables and adapters, the ability to power 15 pedals, and the adjustable voltage is what i based my decision on.

Thanks for that. That's how I arrived at the Walrus too. I have exactly 15 powered devices on my guitar board and just about every other brand would require me to buy two separate power supplies. 

I'm excited to get this wired up when it gets here. Right now, all of my pedals are daisy chained with 1-Spots. It works well and I don't have noise issues in my house but I'll start playing outside of my home pretty soon. 

I don't have any interest in Strymon either. Actually, just about all digital pedals I tend to stay away from. Right now, all of the pedals on my guitar board are analog and they're all American made too. That's another thing that led me to the Phoenix. 

Thanks for the input!

you're welcome man. i hope you like it. i would recommend it to anybody even though it was the first one i tried. yes it was a little more expensive than the other options, but the way i figure it, i would rather pay a premium for something that is simple, reliable, and user friendly.

it sounds like it was meant to be with the exact number of outputs!

i thought about the need for multiple power supplies too. i wanted to have the ability to expand my board if need be. the holeyboard allows for it to be expanded, but i did not want to have to buy a 2nd power supply and attach it to the board, potentially have to deal with a 2nd power plug, etc.. 15 pedals would probably be the max i would ever want to use. 16 since by boss tuner can power another 9 volt pedal on its own if i were to get in a pinch and absolutely need to power a 16th pedal.

before i put this board together i had 9 pedals daisy chained on a 1 spot. i immediately noticed that my board sounded better when each pedal had its own power supply using the walrus. i think you will be able to tell a difference as well. especially when you start playing outside of the home. the best way i could describe it is with the 1 spot daisy chain it sounded like some of the pedals were "dying", if you know what i mean.

don't get me wrong. strymon is good stuff, but i do not like it because it requires over 120 MA and higher voltage, they are digital, and they are way too versatile and complex for my brain. i would rather have fewer knobs on something analog and just dial in from there. as i get older, simplicity wins. i do not have the energy to deal with something super complex. i just want something reliable that is easy to troubleshoot if i have an issue, and sounds good.

definitely let us know what you think of the phoenix.

i love how we are all sharing info and learning from each other on here. 

Got the new power supply all mounted and wired up. Sounds pretty much like the daisy chain. Having clean power in my house helped the previous set up and I didn't have any issues with noise. Also, all of my pedals are pretty low current circuits. 

Honestly, I didn't expect there to be a night and day difference. It might be a little tiny bit quieter at loud volumes but the real benefits will be apparent when I play elsewhere. Also, I really like having the IEC power running into the board instead of the tiny 9v wire from the 1Spot.

Thanks for your input!

no problem man. hopefully you will be able to tell a difference to be able to justify the expense. 

Actually, a difference made itself known today. My chorus pedal is making funky noises when I turn it on. The sound is there even with the strings muted. No other pedals turned on and the noise changes with the Rate control on the pedal.

I swapped out cables, experimented with placement and put another chorus pedal in its place which doesn't have any issues. 

I also re-ran the 1-Spot daisy chain like I had before and there is no noise.

Proximity interference from one of the transformers in the Phoenix and that particular pedal is my guess. Never seen anything like it. 

Ended up using a different chorus pedal on that board and sticking the problem pedal on a smaller board with a daisy chain. Works great!

that is strange. i have not had any noise issues at all with this new board. are you plugged into the proper power outlet from the phoenix? I know some of those modulation pedals require more mA and if they are not getting enough juice they can act up. maybe try plugging it into the i think 300 mA designed for higher power needs such as a strymon.

i do have some pedals that are kind of noisy, like the reverb side of my henretta trembletank that just makes a loud hiss when strings are muted, but per the pedal builder that is part of the design. if i am going through an amp that is set to be a little cleaner it is not as pronounced. but if i use that pedal with my JMP it is too noisy. i ended up having to take it off of the board i use with that JMP.

Oh yes, plugged into the 300mA spot. The pedal is analog and draws little current. Took everything apart again last night and even when it is the only thing plugged in, it is still noisy.

Tried moving the pedal and the Phoenix as far from each other as possible but still noisy. 

My MXR Phase 95 is also much noisier with the Phoenix than it was daisy chained on the 1-Spot.

I emailed Walrus Audio to see if there is an issue with the transformers in some of these. I'll let you know what they say. 

gimmesometruth27

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i watched a handful of youtube videos that compared several power supplies and that guided my decision as much as anything else.

mainly the videos, the inclusion of cables and adapters, the ability to power 15 pedals, and the adjustable voltage is what i based my decision on.

Thanks for that. That's how I arrived at the Walrus too. I have exactly 15 powered devices on my guitar board and just about every other brand would require me to buy two separate power supplies. 

I'm excited to get this wired up when it gets here. Right now, all of my pedals are daisy chained with 1-Spots. It works well and I don't have noise issues in my house but I'll start playing outside of my home pretty soon. 

I don't have any interest in Strymon either. Actually, just about all digital pedals I tend to stay away from. Right now, all of the pedals on my guitar board are analog and they're all American made too. That's another thing that led me to the Phoenix. 

Thanks for the input!

you're welcome man. i hope you like it. i would recommend it to anybody even though it was the first one i tried. yes it was a little more expensive than the other options, but the way i figure it, i would rather pay a premium for something that is simple, reliable, and user friendly.

it sounds like it was meant to be with the exact number of outputs!

i thought about the need for multiple power supplies too. i wanted to have the ability to expand my board if need be. the holeyboard allows for it to be expanded, but i did not want to have to buy a 2nd power supply and attach it to the board, potentially have to deal with a 2nd power plug, etc.. 15 pedals would probably be the max i would ever want to use. 16 since by boss tuner can power another 9 volt pedal on its own if i were to get in a pinch and absolutely need to power a 16th pedal.

before i put this board together i had 9 pedals daisy chained on a 1 spot. i immediately noticed that my board sounded better when each pedal had its own power supply using the walrus. i think you will be able to tell a difference as well. especially when you start playing outside of the home. the best way i could describe it is with the 1 spot daisy chain it sounded like some of the pedals were "dying", if you know what i mean.

don't get me wrong. strymon is good stuff, but i do not like it because it requires over 120 MA and higher voltage, they are digital, and they are way too versatile and complex for my brain. i would rather have fewer knobs on something analog and just dial in from there. as i get older, simplicity wins. i do not have the energy to deal with something super complex. i just want something reliable that is easy to troubleshoot if i have an issue, and sounds good.

definitely let us know what you think of the phoenix.

i love how we are all sharing info and learning from each other on here. 

Got the new power supply all mounted and wired up. Sounds pretty much like the daisy chain. Having clean power in my house helped the previous set up and I didn't have any issues with noise. Also, all of my pedals are pretty low current circuits. 

Honestly, I didn't expect there to be a night and day difference. It might be a little tiny bit quieter at loud volumes but the real benefits will be apparent when I play elsewhere. Also, I really like having the IEC power running into the board instead of the tiny 9v wire from the 1Spot.

Thanks for your input!

no problem man. hopefully you will be able to tell a difference to be able to justify the expense. 

Actually, a difference made itself known today. My chorus pedal is making funky noises when I turn it on. The sound is there even with the strings muted. No other pedals turned on and the noise changes with the Rate control on the pedal.

I swapped out cables, experimented with placement and put another chorus pedal in its place which doesn't have any issues. 

I also re-ran the 1-Spot daisy chain like I had before and there is no noise.

Proximity interference from one of the transformers in the Phoenix and that particular pedal is my guess. Never seen anything like it. 

Ended up using a different chorus pedal on that board and sticking the problem pedal on a smaller board with a daisy chain. Works great!

that is strange. i have not had any noise issues at all with this new board. are you plugged into the proper power outlet from the phoenix? I know some of those modulation pedals require more mA and if they are not getting enough juice they can act up. maybe try plugging it into the i think 300 mA designed for higher power needs such as a strymon.

i do have some pedals that are kind of noisy, like the reverb side of my henretta trembletank that just makes a loud hiss when strings are muted, but per the pedal builder that is part of the design. if i am going through an amp that is set to be a little cleaner it is not as pronounced. but if i use that pedal with my JMP it is too noisy. i ended up having to take it off of the board i use with that JMP.

Oh yes, plugged into the 300mA spot. The pedal is analog and draws little current. Took everything apart again last night and even when it is the only thing plugged in, it is still noisy.

Tried moving the pedal and the Phoenix as far from each other as possible but still noisy. 

My MXR Phase 95 is also much noisier with the Phoenix than it was daisy chained on the 1-Spot.

I emailed Walrus Audio to see if there is an issue with the transformers in some of these. I'll let you know what they say. 

sounds good. i am at a loss.

which pedal is causing the issue again? is it an older or modern modulation pedal?

i wonder if there is an issue with bucket brigade type chips vs more modern chips.

keep us posted. will be interested to see what walrus says.

dudeman

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i watched a handful of youtube videos that compared several power supplies and that guided my decision as much as anything else.

mainly the videos, the inclusion of cables and adapters, the ability to power 15 pedals, and the adjustable voltage is what i based my decision on.

Thanks for that. That's how I arrived at the Walrus too. I have exactly 15 powered devices on my guitar board and just about every other brand would require me to buy two separate power supplies. 

I'm excited to get this wired up when it gets here. Right now, all of my pedals are daisy chained with 1-Spots. It works well and I don't have noise issues in my house but I'll start playing outside of my home pretty soon. 

I don't have any interest in Strymon either. Actually, just about all digital pedals I tend to stay away from. Right now, all of the pedals on my guitar board are analog and they're all American made too. That's another thing that led me to the Phoenix. 

Thanks for the input!

you're welcome man. i hope you like it. i would recommend it to anybody even though it was the first one i tried. yes it was a little more expensive than the other options, but the way i figure it, i would rather pay a premium for something that is simple, reliable, and user friendly.

it sounds like it was meant to be with the exact number of outputs!

i thought about the need for multiple power supplies too. i wanted to have the ability to expand my board if need be. the holeyboard allows for it to be expanded, but i did not want to have to buy a 2nd power supply and attach it to the board, potentially have to deal with a 2nd power plug, etc.. 15 pedals would probably be the max i would ever want to use. 16 since by boss tuner can power another 9 volt pedal on its own if i were to get in a pinch and absolutely need to power a 16th pedal.

before i put this board together i had 9 pedals daisy chained on a 1 spot. i immediately noticed that my board sounded better when each pedal had its own power supply using the walrus. i think you will be able to tell a difference as well. especially when you start playing outside of the home. the best way i could describe it is with the 1 spot daisy chain it sounded like some of the pedals were "dying", if you know what i mean.

don't get me wrong. strymon is good stuff, but i do not like it because it requires over 120 MA and higher voltage, they are digital, and they are way too versatile and complex for my brain. i would rather have fewer knobs on something analog and just dial in from there. as i get older, simplicity wins. i do not have the energy to deal with something super complex. i just want something reliable that is easy to troubleshoot if i have an issue, and sounds good.

definitely let us know what you think of the phoenix.

i love how we are all sharing info and learning from each other on here. 

Got the new power supply all mounted and wired up. Sounds pretty much like the daisy chain. Having clean power in my house helped the previous set up and I didn't have any issues with noise. Also, all of my pedals are pretty low current circuits. 

Honestly, I didn't expect there to be a night and day difference. It might be a little tiny bit quieter at loud volumes but the real benefits will be apparent when I play elsewhere. Also, I really like having the IEC power running into the board instead of the tiny 9v wire from the 1Spot.

Thanks for your input!

no problem man. hopefully you will be able to tell a difference to be able to justify the expense. 

Actually, a difference made itself known today. My chorus pedal is making funky noises when I turn it on. The sound is there even with the strings muted. No other pedals turned on and the noise changes with the Rate control on the pedal.

I swapped out cables, experimented with placement and put another chorus pedal in its place which doesn't have any issues. 

I also re-ran the 1-Spot daisy chain like I had before and there is no noise.

Proximity interference from one of the transformers in the Phoenix and that particular pedal is my guess. Never seen anything like it. 

Ended up using a different chorus pedal on that board and sticking the problem pedal on a smaller board with a daisy chain. Works great!

that is strange. i have not had any noise issues at all with this new board. are you plugged into the proper power outlet from the phoenix? I know some of those modulation pedals require more mA and if they are not getting enough juice they can act up. maybe try plugging it into the i think 300 mA designed for higher power needs such as a strymon.

i do have some pedals that are kind of noisy, like the reverb side of my henretta trembletank that just makes a loud hiss when strings are muted, but per the pedal builder that is part of the design. if i am going through an amp that is set to be a little cleaner it is not as pronounced. but if i use that pedal with my JMP it is too noisy. i ended up having to take it off of the board i use with that JMP.

Oh yes, plugged into the 300mA spot. The pedal is analog and draws little current. Took everything apart again last night and even when it is the only thing plugged in, it is still noisy.

Tried moving the pedal and the Phoenix as far from each other as possible but still noisy. 

My MXR Phase 95 is also much noisier with the Phoenix than it was daisy chained on the 1-Spot.

I emailed Walrus Audio to see if there is an issue with the transformers in some of these. I'll let you know what they say. 

sounds good. i am at a loss.

which pedal is causing the issue again? is it an older or modern modulation pedal?

i wonder if there is an issue with bucket brigade type chips vs more modern chips.

keep us posted. will be interested to see what walrus says.

It's actually two pedals. One is a CE-2 clone from BYOC and the other is an MXR Phase 95.

I spoke with Walrus Audio yesterday and they were very helpful and nice. The tech is researching the issue and he said he'd get back to me today with options/solutions. 

In the meantime, I swapped the chorus for my trusty Homebrew Electronics THC and that is working great. The other two phasers I have on my board are working fine with no noise issues. (They are a J Rockett Tranquilizer and a Blackout Effectors Sibling OTA Phaser.)

Both the CE-2 clone and Phase 95 sound terrific and have no noise when powered by the 1-Spot.

gimmesometruth27

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i watched a handful of youtube videos that compared several power supplies and that guided my decision as much as anything else.

mainly the videos, the inclusion of cables and adapters, the ability to power 15 pedals, and the adjustable voltage is what i based my decision on.

Thanks for that. That's how I arrived at the Walrus too. I have exactly 15 powered devices on my guitar board and just about every other brand would require me to buy two separate power supplies. 

I'm excited to get this wired up when it gets here. Right now, all of my pedals are daisy chained with 1-Spots. It works well and I don't have noise issues in my house but I'll start playing outside of my home pretty soon. 

I don't have any interest in Strymon either. Actually, just about all digital pedals I tend to stay away from. Right now, all of the pedals on my guitar board are analog and they're all American made too. That's another thing that led me to the Phoenix. 

Thanks for the input!

you're welcome man. i hope you like it. i would recommend it to anybody even though it was the first one i tried. yes it was a little more expensive than the other options, but the way i figure it, i would rather pay a premium for something that is simple, reliable, and user friendly.

it sounds like it was meant to be with the exact number of outputs!

i thought about the need for multiple power supplies too. i wanted to have the ability to expand my board if need be. the holeyboard allows for it to be expanded, but i did not want to have to buy a 2nd power supply and attach it to the board, potentially have to deal with a 2nd power plug, etc.. 15 pedals would probably be the max i would ever want to use. 16 since by boss tuner can power another 9 volt pedal on its own if i were to get in a pinch and absolutely need to power a 16th pedal.

before i put this board together i had 9 pedals daisy chained on a 1 spot. i immediately noticed that my board sounded better when each pedal had its own power supply using the walrus. i think you will be able to tell a difference as well. especially when you start playing outside of the home. the best way i could describe it is with the 1 spot daisy chain it sounded like some of the pedals were "dying", if you know what i mean.

don't get me wrong. strymon is good stuff, but i do not like it because it requires over 120 MA and higher voltage, they are digital, and they are way too versatile and complex for my brain. i would rather have fewer knobs on something analog and just dial in from there. as i get older, simplicity wins. i do not have the energy to deal with something super complex. i just want something reliable that is easy to troubleshoot if i have an issue, and sounds good.

definitely let us know what you think of the phoenix.

i love how we are all sharing info and learning from each other on here. 

Got the new power supply all mounted and wired up. Sounds pretty much like the daisy chain. Having clean power in my house helped the previous set up and I didn't have any issues with noise. Also, all of my pedals are pretty low current circuits. 

Honestly, I didn't expect there to be a night and day difference. It might be a little tiny bit quieter at loud volumes but the real benefits will be apparent when I play elsewhere. Also, I really like having the IEC power running into the board instead of the tiny 9v wire from the 1Spot.

Thanks for your input!

no problem man. hopefully you will be able to tell a difference to be able to justify the expense. 

Actually, a difference made itself known today. My chorus pedal is making funky noises when I turn it on. The sound is there even with the strings muted. No other pedals turned on and the noise changes with the Rate control on the pedal.

I swapped out cables, experimented with placement and put another chorus pedal in its place which doesn't have any issues. 

I also re-ran the 1-Spot daisy chain like I had before and there is no noise.

Proximity interference from one of the transformers in the Phoenix and that particular pedal is my guess. Never seen anything like it. 

Ended up using a different chorus pedal on that board and sticking the problem pedal on a smaller board with a daisy chain. Works great!

that is strange. i have not had any noise issues at all with this new board. are you plugged into the proper power outlet from the phoenix? I know some of those modulation pedals require more mA and if they are not getting enough juice they can act up. maybe try plugging it into the i think 300 mA designed for higher power needs such as a strymon.

i do have some pedals that are kind of noisy, like the reverb side of my henretta trembletank that just makes a loud hiss when strings are muted, but per the pedal builder that is part of the design. if i am going through an amp that is set to be a little cleaner it is not as pronounced. but if i use that pedal with my JMP it is too noisy. i ended up having to take it off of the board i use with that JMP.

Oh yes, plugged into the 300mA spot. The pedal is analog and draws little current. Took everything apart again last night and even when it is the only thing plugged in, it is still noisy.

Tried moving the pedal and the Phoenix as far from each other as possible but still noisy. 

My MXR Phase 95 is also much noisier with the Phoenix than it was daisy chained on the 1-Spot.

I emailed Walrus Audio to see if there is an issue with the transformers in some of these. I'll let you know what they say. 

sounds good. i am at a loss.

which pedal is causing the issue again? is it an older or modern modulation pedal?

i wonder if there is an issue with bucket brigade type chips vs more modern chips.

keep us posted. will be interested to see what walrus says.

It's actually two pedals. One is a CE-2 clone from BYOC and the other is an MXR Phase 95.

I spoke with Walrus Audio yesterday and they were very helpful and nice. The tech is researching the issue and he said he'd get back to me today with options/solutions. 

In the meantime, I swapped the chorus for my trusty Homebrew Electronics THC and that is working great. The other two phasers I have on my board are working fine with no noise issues. (They are a J Rockett Tranquilizer and a Blackout Effectors Sibling OTA Phaser.)

Both the CE-2 clone and Phase 95 sound terrific and have no noise when powered by the 1-Spot.

that blows my mind. maybe plug the 1 spot into the plug on the phoenix and power those 2 pedals with the 1 spot and the rest with the phoenix??

i know it is not ideal, but it may work and it may be easier than having to take the board apart, pull off the phoenix, unplug everything, etc.

i hear walrus has exceptional customer service. i forgot where i read that. maybe on here, or maybe online somewhere.

dudeman

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i watched a handful of youtube videos that compared several power supplies and that guided my decision as much as anything else.

mainly the videos, the inclusion of cables and adapters, the ability to power 15 pedals, and the adjustable voltage is what i based my decision on.

Thanks for that. That's how I arrived at the Walrus too. I have exactly 15 powered devices on my guitar board and just about every other brand would require me to buy two separate power supplies. 

I'm excited to get this wired up when it gets here. Right now, all of my pedals are daisy chained with 1-Spots. It works well and I don't have noise issues in my house but I'll start playing outside of my home pretty soon. 

I don't have any interest in Strymon either. Actually, just about all digital pedals I tend to stay away from. Right now, all of the pedals on my guitar board are analog and they're all American made too. That's another thing that led me to the Phoenix. 

Thanks for the input!

you're welcome man. i hope you like it. i would recommend it to anybody even though it was the first one i tried. yes it was a little more expensive than the other options, but the way i figure it, i would rather pay a premium for something that is simple, reliable, and user friendly.

it sounds like it was meant to be with the exact number of outputs!

i thought about the need for multiple power supplies too. i wanted to have the ability to expand my board if need be. the holeyboard allows for it to be expanded, but i did not want to have to buy a 2nd power supply and attach it to the board, potentially have to deal with a 2nd power plug, etc.. 15 pedals would probably be the max i would ever want to use. 16 since by boss tuner can power another 9 volt pedal on its own if i were to get in a pinch and absolutely need to power a 16th pedal.

before i put this board together i had 9 pedals daisy chained on a 1 spot. i immediately noticed that my board sounded better when each pedal had its own power supply using the walrus. i think you will be able to tell a difference as well. especially when you start playing outside of the home. the best way i could describe it is with the 1 spot daisy chain it sounded like some of the pedals were "dying", if you know what i mean.

don't get me wrong. strymon is good stuff, but i do not like it because it requires over 120 MA and higher voltage, they are digital, and they are way too versatile and complex for my brain. i would rather have fewer knobs on something analog and just dial in from there. as i get older, simplicity wins. i do not have the energy to deal with something super complex. i just want something reliable that is easy to troubleshoot if i have an issue, and sounds good.

definitely let us know what you think of the phoenix.

i love how we are all sharing info and learning from each other on here. 

Got the new power supply all mounted and wired up. Sounds pretty much like the daisy chain. Having clean power in my house helped the previous set up and I didn't have any issues with noise. Also, all of my pedals are pretty low current circuits. 

Honestly, I didn't expect there to be a night and day difference. It might be a little tiny bit quieter at loud volumes but the real benefits will be apparent when I play elsewhere. Also, I really like having the IEC power running into the board instead of the tiny 9v wire from the 1Spot.

Thanks for your input!

no problem man. hopefully you will be able to tell a difference to be able to justify the expense. 

Actually, a difference made itself known today. My chorus pedal is making funky noises when I turn it on. The sound is there even with the strings muted. No other pedals turned on and the noise changes with the Rate control on the pedal.

I swapped out cables, experimented with placement and put another chorus pedal in its place which doesn't have any issues. 

I also re-ran the 1-Spot daisy chain like I had before and there is no noise.

Proximity interference from one of the transformers in the Phoenix and that particular pedal is my guess. Never seen anything like it. 

Ended up using a different chorus pedal on that board and sticking the problem pedal on a smaller board with a daisy chain. Works great!

that is strange. i have not had any noise issues at all with this new board. are you plugged into the proper power outlet from the phoenix? I know some of those modulation pedals require more mA and if they are not getting enough juice they can act up. maybe try plugging it into the i think 300 mA designed for higher power needs such as a strymon.

i do have some pedals that are kind of noisy, like the reverb side of my henretta trembletank that just makes a loud hiss when strings are muted, but per the pedal builder that is part of the design. if i am going through an amp that is set to be a little cleaner it is not as pronounced. but if i use that pedal with my JMP it is too noisy. i ended up having to take it off of the board i use with that JMP.

Oh yes, plugged into the 300mA spot. The pedal is analog and draws little current. Took everything apart again last night and even when it is the only thing plugged in, it is still noisy.

Tried moving the pedal and the Phoenix as far from each other as possible but still noisy. 

My MXR Phase 95 is also much noisier with the Phoenix than it was daisy chained on the 1-Spot.

I emailed Walrus Audio to see if there is an issue with the transformers in some of these. I'll let you know what they say. 

sounds good. i am at a loss.

which pedal is causing the issue again? is it an older or modern modulation pedal?

i wonder if there is an issue with bucket brigade type chips vs more modern chips.

keep us posted. will be interested to see what walrus says.

It's actually two pedals. One is a CE-2 clone from BYOC and the other is an MXR Phase 95.

I spoke with Walrus Audio yesterday and they were very helpful and nice. The tech is researching the issue and he said he'd get back to me today with options/solutions. 

In the meantime, I swapped the chorus for my trusty Homebrew Electronics THC and that is working great. The other two phasers I have on my board are working fine with no noise issues. (They are a J Rockett Tranquilizer and a Blackout Effectors Sibling OTA Phaser.)

Both the CE-2 clone and Phase 95 sound terrific and have no noise when powered by the 1-Spot.

that blows my mind. maybe plug the 1 spot into the plug on the phoenix and power those 2 pedals with the 1 spot and the rest with the phoenix??

i know it is not ideal, but it may work and it may be easier than having to take the board apart, pull off the phoenix, unplug everything, etc.

i hear walrus has exceptional customer service. i forgot where i read that. maybe on here, or maybe online somewhere.

So far,that has been true. Excellent customer service experience with Walrus Audio. They are sending me a replacement Phoenix and a return label for the questionable one.

Nothing bad to say about the way I have been treated and they are really on top of things. Also, there is a very polite and professional, actual human being who answers the phone when you call them. It's sad that that is so rare any more but it makes all the difference in the world for customer service experience. 

gimmesometruth27

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i watched a handful of youtube videos that compared several power supplies and that guided my decision as much as anything else.

mainly the videos, the inclusion of cables and adapters, the ability to power 15 pedals, and the adjustable voltage is what i based my decision on.

Thanks for that. That's how I arrived at the Walrus too. I have exactly 15 powered devices on my guitar board and just about every other brand would require me to buy two separate power supplies. 

I'm excited to get this wired up when it gets here. Right now, all of my pedals are daisy chained with 1-Spots. It works well and I don't have noise issues in my house but I'll start playing outside of my home pretty soon. 

I don't have any interest in Strymon either. Actually, just about all digital pedals I tend to stay away from. Right now, all of the pedals on my guitar board are analog and they're all American made too. That's another thing that led me to the Phoenix. 

Thanks for the input!

you're welcome man. i hope you like it. i would recommend it to anybody even though it was the first one i tried. yes it was a little more expensive than the other options, but the way i figure it, i would rather pay a premium for something that is simple, reliable, and user friendly.

it sounds like it was meant to be with the exact number of outputs!

i thought about the need for multiple power supplies too. i wanted to have the ability to expand my board if need be. the holeyboard allows for it to be expanded, but i did not want to have to buy a 2nd power supply and attach it to the board, potentially have to deal with a 2nd power plug, etc.. 15 pedals would probably be the max i would ever want to use. 16 since by boss tuner can power another 9 volt pedal on its own if i were to get in a pinch and absolutely need to power a 16th pedal.

before i put this board together i had 9 pedals daisy chained on a 1 spot. i immediately noticed that my board sounded better when each pedal had its own power supply using the walrus. i think you will be able to tell a difference as well. especially when you start playing outside of the home. the best way i could describe it is with the 1 spot daisy chain it sounded like some of the pedals were "dying", if you know what i mean.

don't get me wrong. strymon is good stuff, but i do not like it because it requires over 120 MA and higher voltage, they are digital, and they are way too versatile and complex for my brain. i would rather have fewer knobs on something analog and just dial in from there. as i get older, simplicity wins. i do not have the energy to deal with something super complex. i just want something reliable that is easy to troubleshoot if i have an issue, and sounds good.

definitely let us know what you think of the phoenix.

i love how we are all sharing info and learning from each other on here. 

Got the new power supply all mounted and wired up. Sounds pretty much like the daisy chain. Having clean power in my house helped the previous set up and I didn't have any issues with noise. Also, all of my pedals are pretty low current circuits. 

Honestly, I didn't expect there to be a night and day difference. It might be a little tiny bit quieter at loud volumes but the real benefits will be apparent when I play elsewhere. Also, I really like having the IEC power running into the board instead of the tiny 9v wire from the 1Spot.

Thanks for your input!

no problem man. hopefully you will be able to tell a difference to be able to justify the expense. 

Actually, a difference made itself known today. My chorus pedal is making funky noises when I turn it on. The sound is there even with the strings muted. No other pedals turned on and the noise changes with the Rate control on the pedal.

I swapped out cables, experimented with placement and put another chorus pedal in its place which doesn't have any issues. 

I also re-ran the 1-Spot daisy chain like I had before and there is no noise.

Proximity interference from one of the transformers in the Phoenix and that particular pedal is my guess. Never seen anything like it. 

Ended up using a different chorus pedal on that board and sticking the problem pedal on a smaller board with a daisy chain. Works great!

that is strange. i have not had any noise issues at all with this new board. are you plugged into the proper power outlet from the phoenix? I know some of those modulation pedals require more mA and if they are not getting enough juice they can act up. maybe try plugging it into the i think 300 mA designed for higher power needs such as a strymon.

i do have some pedals that are kind of noisy, like the reverb side of my henretta trembletank that just makes a loud hiss when strings are muted, but per the pedal builder that is part of the design. if i am going through an amp that is set to be a little cleaner it is not as pronounced. but if i use that pedal with my JMP it is too noisy. i ended up having to take it off of the board i use with that JMP.

Oh yes, plugged into the 300mA spot. The pedal is analog and draws little current. Took everything apart again last night and even when it is the only thing plugged in, it is still noisy.

Tried moving the pedal and the Phoenix as far from each other as possible but still noisy. 

My MXR Phase 95 is also much noisier with the Phoenix than it was daisy chained on the 1-Spot.

I emailed Walrus Audio to see if there is an issue with the transformers in some of these. I'll let you know what they say. 

sounds good. i am at a loss.

which pedal is causing the issue again? is it an older or modern modulation pedal?

i wonder if there is an issue with bucket brigade type chips vs more modern chips.

keep us posted. will be interested to see what walrus says.

It's actually two pedals. One is a CE-2 clone from BYOC and the other is an MXR Phase 95.

I spoke with Walrus Audio yesterday and they were very helpful and nice. The tech is researching the issue and he said he'd get back to me today with options/solutions. 

In the meantime, I swapped the chorus for my trusty Homebrew Electronics THC and that is working great. The other two phasers I have on my board are working fine with no noise issues. (They are a J Rockett Tranquilizer and a Blackout Effectors Sibling OTA Phaser.)

Both the CE-2 clone and Phase 95 sound terrific and have no noise when powered by the 1-Spot.

that blows my mind. maybe plug the 1 spot into the plug on the phoenix and power those 2 pedals with the 1 spot and the rest with the phoenix??

i know it is not ideal, but it may work and it may be easier than having to take the board apart, pull off the phoenix, unplug everything, etc.

i hear walrus has exceptional customer service. i forgot where i read that. maybe on here, or maybe online somewhere.

So far,that has been true. Excellent customer service experience with Walrus Audio. They are sending me a replacement Phoenix and a return label for the questionable one.

Nothing bad to say about the way I have been treated and they are really on top of things. Also, there is a very polite and professional, actual human being who answers the phone when you call them. It's sad that that is so rare any more but it makes all the difference in the world for customer service experience. 

i am glad to hear they are making it right for you. kind of a pain in the ass for you, but at least they are sending you a new one in the event it is a product issue on their end.

these independent companies like walrus have to have good customer service or they will not survive. there are so many smaller companies competing for our business against each other and against the huge companies that they have to take care of the customer. hopefully the new unit will take care of the issue.

dudeman

The replacement Phoenix showed up yesterday and preliminary testing shows that the problem pedals are dead silent with this new power supply. I'm in the process of rewiring everything and will test more once it's finished. 

So far, so good!

dudeman

This one is a BYOC Triangle Large Beaver. It's a clone of the original Triangle Big Muff as used by David Gilmour but with  a couple modifications. It has a Tone Stack bypass (X) and a 3-way mids switch (M) for flat, scooped or boosted midrange.

Really nails that "Comfortably Numb" lead tone when paired with chorus and a little delay. Fun and pretty easy to build too.

bootlegger10

Anyone use a Dover Drive pedal?  I just ordered a used one.  Trying to get that Eric Johnson tone.

dudeman

Starting building a Klon clone last night.

Also, I picked up an EQD Night Wire v2. That thing is really expressive! It has qualities like a phaser, envelope filter and a really sweet sounding harmonic tremolo. It can be controlled in a number of ways and it's super fun to play with. 

This is my first experience with Earthquaker Devices. Feel like I'm late to the party. I have a feeling that an Afterneath or Ghost Echo will wind up on my board too. So far, I'm really impressed by this Night Wire!

dudeman

Finished with the Klone. This one is "Klonehenge".