Baseball Hall of Fame 2018

markymark550

As a Braves fan, definitely happy to see Chipper make it in. He and Tom Glavine were my favorite players as a kid. The other 3 are definitely deserving as well. I was on the fence about Vlad, but I'm ok with him there. I grew up about 10 minutes from where the Charlotte, NC AAA team played. They were an Indians affiliate for a couple of years and one of those teams had Jim Thome and Manny Ramirez. I think it was the 1994 season. You could tell even then that both of them were going to great.

SomethingCreative

mcgruff10 said:

Degeneratefk said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

bonds didn't get in? i thought writers were warming up to him?

They are. Bonds and Clemons got over 50%. You need 75% (I think) to get in. That's up a lot from their first years of eligibility.  They will get in eventually. All of thrm will. Bonds, Clemons, McGuire, Sosa....

mcgruff10 said:

I don't consider edgar a hof.  mcgriff.....border line i guess.  The four that got in are all solid.

Why not? Because he was a DH? How many players can you name that made the hall of fame because of their defense? I can think of one. Bill Mazeroski. 

Edgar certainly has the numbers to be in.

exactly.  I don't think a dh should be in the hof.  was he ever a mvp?

if a relief pitcher should be, why not a DH?

tempo_n_groove

Poncier said:

Degeneratefk said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

bonds didn't get in? i thought writers were warming up to him?

They are. Bonds and Clemons got over 50%. You need 75% (I think) to get in. That's up a lot from their first years of eligibility.  They will get in eventually. All of thrm will. Bonds, Clemons, McGuire, Sosa....

mcgruff10 said:

I don't consider edgar a hof.  mcgriff.....border line i guess.  The four that got in are all solid.

Why not? Because he was a DH? How many players can you name that made the hall of fame because of their defense? I can think of one. Bill Mazeroski. 

Edgar certainly has the numbers to be in.

I'd say Ozzie Smith got in because of defense.

Not too many other .262 lifetime hitters with 28 career HR were first ballot HOFers.

No cubby fans here?

Evers to Tinker To Chance...

Three people made famous for their defense from a poem!

tempo_n_groove

Hoffman would have been reveled as Great if he didn't happen to be playing the same time that Rivera was playing.

Jones was an amazing bat and fielder.

Thome was class and a good hitter, good fielder too.

Vladimir I loved.  Loved him.  He is not a HOF player though...

Hopefully Bonds and Clemens get in soon.  

Edgar Martinez doesn't have the numbers so everyone needs to stop with him going in.  He doesn't have any of the big numbers.

When Pappi Ortiz is eligible he will get in because he has that magical 500HR in his reume.

Poncier

tempo_n_groove said:

Poncier said:

Degeneratefk said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

bonds didn't get in? i thought writers were warming up to him?

They are. Bonds and Clemons got over 50%. You need 75% (I think) to get in. That's up a lot from their first years of eligibility.  They will get in eventually. All of thrm will. Bonds, Clemons, McGuire, Sosa....

mcgruff10 said:

I don't consider edgar a hof.  mcgriff.....border line i guess.  The four that got in are all solid.

Why not? Because he was a DH? How many players can you name that made the hall of fame because of their defense? I can think of one. Bill Mazeroski. 

Edgar certainly has the numbers to be in.

I'd say Ozzie Smith got in because of defense.

Not too many other .262 lifetime hitters with 28 career HR were first ballot HOFers.

No cubby fans here?

Evers to Tinker To Chance...

Three people made famous for their defense from a poem!

Actually its Tinkers to Evers to Chance.

Poncier

tempo_n_groove said:

When Pappi Ortiz is eligible he will get in because he has that magical 500HR in his reume.

And the 3 titles and numerous clutch post season hits.

igotid88

tempo_n_groove said:

Hoffman would have been reveled as Great if he didn't happen to be playing the same time that Rivera was playing.

Jones was an amazing bat and fielder.

Thome was class and a good hitter, good fielder too.

Vladimir I loved.  Loved him.  He is not a HOF player though...

Hopefully Bonds and Clemens get in soon.  

Edgar Martinez doesn't have the numbers so everyone needs to stop with him going in.  He doesn't have any of the big numbers.

When Pappi Ortiz is eligible he will get in because he has that magical 500HR in his reume.

Hoffman feels more like a compiler. Also wasn't great when it counted.

tempo_n_groove

Poncier said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Poncier said:

Degeneratefk said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

bonds didn't get in? i thought writers were warming up to him?

They are. Bonds and Clemons got over 50%. You need 75% (I think) to get in. That's up a lot from their first years of eligibility.  They will get in eventually. All of thrm will. Bonds, Clemons, McGuire, Sosa....

mcgruff10 said:

I don't consider edgar a hof.  mcgriff.....border line i guess.  The four that got in are all solid.

Why not? Because he was a DH? How many players can you name that made the hall of fame because of their defense? I can think of one. Bill Mazeroski. 

Edgar certainly has the numbers to be in.

I'd say Ozzie Smith got in because of defense.

Not too many other .262 lifetime hitters with 28 career HR were first ballot HOFers.

No cubby fans here?

Evers to Tinker To Chance...

Three people made famous for their defense from a poem!

Actually its Tinkers to Evers to Chance.

I'm shocked someone else actually knows it!!!

That's how I learned about them in a book about baseball!

tempo_n_groove

Poncier said:

tempo_n_groove said:

When Pappi Ortiz is eligible he will get in because he has that magical 500HR in his reume.

And the 3 titles and numerous clutch post season hits.

Titles mean squat in the baseball world.  That only holds weight in Bball and football.

Baseball was a numbers game up until the hall of fame became the Hall of good the last few inductions...

eeriepadave

Poncier said:

Wobbie said:

Indifference71 said:

Degeneratefk said:

I hate BBHOF voters. They are all uppity bitches.  Edgar and McGriff should be in. 
Chipper, Thome, and Hoffman are no brainers. I guess I never considered Vlad a HOFer.  But that dude could hit a baseball and had a cannon of an arm.

Yep.  Baseball HOF voters are the worst. 

Ken Griffey Jr. somehow wasn't unanimously voted in last year.  Even fucking Babe Ruth wasn't a unanimous vote!  Bunch of pretentious douchebags.

griffey may have juiced

also, I wonder (seriously) what would have been the fastest pitch fat babe ever had to hit.

Griffey most likely juiced, just never got caught and people liked him so reporters didn't try and dig up dirt on him.
His power stats are a perfect bell curve showing the years he juiced and his body breaking down at the end is another tell tale sign.

  I know he was addicted to nerve tonic that gave him gigantism.

HesCalledDyer

tempo_n_groove said:

Poncier said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Poncier said:

Degeneratefk said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

bonds didn't get in? i thought writers were warming up to him?

They are. Bonds and Clemons got over 50%. You need 75% (I think) to get in. That's up a lot from their first years of eligibility.  They will get in eventually. All of thrm will. Bonds, Clemons, McGuire, Sosa....

mcgruff10 said:

I don't consider edgar a hof.  mcgriff.....border line i guess.  The four that got in are all solid.

Why not? Because he was a DH? How many players can you name that made the hall of fame because of their defense? I can think of one. Bill Mazeroski. 

Edgar certainly has the numbers to be in.

I'd say Ozzie Smith got in because of defense.

Not too many other .262 lifetime hitters with 28 career HR were first ballot HOFers.

No cubby fans here?

Evers to Tinker To Chance...

Three people made famous for their defense from a poem!

Actually its Tinkers to Evers to Chance.

I'm shocked someone else actually knows it!!!

That's how I learned about them in a book about baseball!

The poem is actually called Baseball's Sad Lexicon, but popularly referred to a T>E>C because of the repeated use of the line.

"Making a Giant hit into a double
Words that are heavy and nothing but trouble
Tinker to Evers to Chance"

Degeneratefk

Edgar does have the numbers. You don't have to have 500 homeruns to get in. That was just the number that made you an automatic shoe in. But Edgars numbers do stack up nicely with power hitters in the ball with under 500 homeruns.

igotid88

If Edgar is a Hall of Famer then so is Don Mattingly

Degeneratefk

igotid88 said:

If Edgar is a Hall of Famer then so is Don Mattingly

I've always thought Donny baseball was a hall of famer. If he played on the Yankees in the mid to late 90s with that lineup, his numbers would be so much better. 

Poncier

tempo_n_groove said:

Poncier said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Poncier said:

Degeneratefk said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

bonds didn't get in? i thought writers were warming up to him?

They are. Bonds and Clemons got over 50%. You need 75% (I think) to get in. That's up a lot from their first years of eligibility.  They will get in eventually. All of thrm will. Bonds, Clemons, McGuire, Sosa....

mcgruff10 said:

I don't consider edgar a hof.  mcgriff.....border line i guess.  The four that got in are all solid.

Why not? Because he was a DH? How many players can you name that made the hall of fame because of their defense? I can think of one. Bill Mazeroski. 

Edgar certainly has the numbers to be in.

I'd say Ozzie Smith got in because of defense.

Not too many other .262 lifetime hitters with 28 career HR were first ballot HOFers.

No cubby fans here?

Evers to Tinker To Chance...

Three people made famous for their defense from a poem!

Actually its Tinkers to Evers to Chance.

I'm shocked someone else actually knows it!!!

That's how I learned about them in a book about baseball!

I actually first learned of them from The Brady Bunch.

SomethingCreative

Degeneratefk said:

Edgar does have the numbers. You don't have to have 500 homeruns to get in. That was just the number that made you an automatic shoe in. But Edgars numbers do stack up nicely with power hitters in the ball with under 500 homeruns.

Wobbie

Degeneratefk said:

igotid88 said:

If Edgar is a Hall of Famer then so is Don Mattingly

I've always thought Donny baseball was a hall of famer. If he played on the Yankees in the mid to late 90s with that lineup, his numbers would be so much better. 

and if mays and aaron seitched stadiums, willie might be the all time HR leader.

ya can’t make those “if” arguments for the HOF.

HesCalledDyer

If Barry Larkin is a HOFer, Edgar Martinez certainly is.  But Larkin doesn't belong, imo.

igotid88

Wobbie said:

Degeneratefk said:

igotid88 said:

If Edgar is a Hall of Famer then so is Don Mattingly

I've always thought Donny baseball was a hall of famer. If he played on the Yankees in the mid to late 90s with that lineup, his numbers would be so much better. 

and if mays and aaron seitched stadiums, willie might be the all time HR leader.

ya can’t make those “if” arguments for the HOF.

it's not like he didn't have the numbers. If he had a World Series under his belt. He would be in.

tempo_n_groove

Poncier said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Poncier said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Poncier said:

Degeneratefk said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

bonds didn't get in? i thought writers were warming up to him?

They are. Bonds and Clemons got over 50%. You need 75% (I think) to get in. That's up a lot from their first years of eligibility.  They will get in eventually. All of thrm will. Bonds, Clemons, McGuire, Sosa....

mcgruff10 said:

I don't consider edgar a hof.  mcgriff.....border line i guess.  The four that got in are all solid.

Why not? Because he was a DH? How many players can you name that made the hall of fame because of their defense? I can think of one. Bill Mazeroski. 

Edgar certainly has the numbers to be in.

I'd say Ozzie Smith got in because of defense.

Not too many other .262 lifetime hitters with 28 career HR were first ballot HOFers.

No cubby fans here?

Evers to Tinker To Chance...

Three people made famous for their defense from a poem!

Actually its Tinkers to Evers to Chance.

I'm shocked someone else actually knows it!!!

That's how I learned about them in a book about baseball!

I actually first learned of them from The Brady Bunch.

Not kidding but had to look this up.  Never knew they were mentioned on the Brady bunch!?!

You learn something new every day!