Baseball Hall of Fame 2018

xavier mcdaniel

Congratulations to those who are in the new class of the Hall of Fame:

Chipper Jones
Vladimir Guerrero
Jim Thome
Trevor Hoffman

Disappointed McGriff and Edgar didn't make the cut, but what are you going to do?

Degeneratefk

I hate BBHOF voters. They are all uppity bitches.  Edgar and McGriff should be in. 
Chipper, Thome, and Hoffman are no brainers. I guess I never considered Vlad a HOFer.  But that dude could hit a baseball and had a cannon of an arm.

eeriepadave

solid list.  congrats to all.

igotid88

I'm not sure about Hoffman

mcgruff10

I don't consider edgar a hof.  mcgriff.....border line i guess.  The four that got in are all solid.

gimmesometruth27

bonds didn't get in? i thought writers were warming up to him?

Degeneratefk

gimmesometruth27 said:

bonds didn't get in? i thought writers were warming up to him?

They are. Bonds and Clemons got over 50%. You need 75% (I think) to get in. That's up a lot from their first years of eligibility.  They will get in eventually. All of thrm will. Bonds, Clemons, McGuire, Sosa....

mcgruff10 said:

I don't consider edgar a hof.  mcgriff.....border line i guess.  The four that got in are all solid.

Why not? Because he was a DH? How many players can you name that made the hall of fame because of their defense? I can think of one. Bill Mazeroski. 

Edgar certainly has the numbers to be in.

Indifference71

Degeneratefk said:

I hate BBHOF voters. They are all uppity bitches.  Edgar and McGriff should be in. 
Chipper, Thome, and Hoffman are no brainers. I guess I never considered Vlad a HOFer.  But that dude could hit a baseball and had a cannon of an arm.

Yep.  Baseball HOF voters are the worst. 

Ken Griffey Jr. somehow wasn't unanimously voted in last year.  Even fucking Babe Ruth wasn't a unanimous vote!  Bunch of pretentious douchebags.

mcgruff10

Degeneratefk said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

bonds didn't get in? i thought writers were warming up to him?

They are. Bonds and Clemons got over 50%. You need 75% (I think) to get in. That's up a lot from their first years of eligibility.  They will get in eventually. All of thrm will. Bonds, Clemons, McGuire, Sosa....

mcgruff10 said:

I don't consider edgar a hof.  mcgriff.....border line i guess.  The four that got in are all solid.

Why not? Because he was a DH? How many players can you name that made the hall of fame because of their defense? I can think of one. Bill Mazeroski. 

Edgar certainly has the numbers to be in.

exactly.  I don't think a dh should be in the hof.  was he ever a mvp?

Degeneratefk

Indifference71 said:

Degeneratefk said:

I hate BBHOF voters. They are all uppity bitches.  Edgar and McGriff should be in. 
Chipper, Thome, and Hoffman are no brainers. I guess I never considered Vlad a HOFer.  But that dude could hit a baseball and had a cannon of an arm.

Yep.  Baseball HOF voters are the worst. 

Ken Griffey Jr. somehow wasn't unanimously voted in last year.  Even fucking Babe Ruth wasn't a unanimous vote!  Bunch of pretentious douchebags.

I can understand why Ruth wasn't. It was the first class and he rubbed people the wrong way. 

IT is absolutley absurd that guys like griffey, Mike Schmidt,  Nolan Ryan, Rickey Henderson, and others like that aren't all unanimously voted in. The worst are guys that say "yea, he's a hall of famer,  just not a first ballot hall of famer." How fucking stupid does that sound? What's the fucking difference if it's the first or 4th time on the ballot?

Anyone that didn't vote for ken griffey Jr should lose their vote. And part of the problem is that voters can only vote for 10 guys. Which is stupid. A voter should be able to vote for whoever is eligible. It makes no sense to limit the number of people you can vote for.

Poncier

Degeneratefk said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

bonds didn't get in? i thought writers were warming up to him?

They are. Bonds and Clemons got over 50%. You need 75% (I think) to get in. That's up a lot from their first years of eligibility.  They will get in eventually. All of thrm will. Bonds, Clemons, McGuire, Sosa....

mcgruff10 said:

I don't consider edgar a hof.  mcgriff.....border line i guess.  The four that got in are all solid.

Why not? Because he was a DH? How many players can you name that made the hall of fame because of their defense? I can think of one. Bill Mazeroski. 

Edgar certainly has the numbers to be in.

I'd say Ozzie Smith got in because of defense.

Not too many other .262 lifetime hitters with 28 career HR were first ballot HOFers.

Wobbie

Indifference71 said:

Degeneratefk said:

I hate BBHOF voters. They are all uppity bitches.  Edgar and McGriff should be in. 
Chipper, Thome, and Hoffman are no brainers. I guess I never considered Vlad a HOFer.  But that dude could hit a baseball and had a cannon of an arm.

Yep.  Baseball HOF voters are the worst. 

Ken Griffey Jr. somehow wasn't unanimously voted in last year.  Even fucking Babe Ruth wasn't a unanimous vote!  Bunch of pretentious douchebags.

griffey may have juiced

also, I wonder (seriously) what would have been the fastest pitch fat babe ever had to hit.

Degeneratefk

Poncier said:

Degeneratefk said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

bonds didn't get in? i thought writers were warming up to him?

They are. Bonds and Clemons got over 50%. You need 75% (I think) to get in. That's up a lot from their first years of eligibility.  They will get in eventually. All of thrm will. Bonds, Clemons, McGuire, Sosa....

mcgruff10 said:

I don't consider edgar a hof.  mcgriff.....border line i guess.  The four that got in are all solid.

Why not? Because he was a DH? How many players can you name that made the hall of fame because of their defense? I can think of one. Bill Mazeroski. 

Edgar certainly has the numbers to be in.

I'd say Ozzie Smith got in because of defense.

Not too many other .262 lifetime hitters with 28 career HR were first ballot HOFers.

Youre absolutely right. I forgot about him. But that's still only 2

igotid88

Poncier said:

Degeneratefk said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

bonds didn't get in? i thought writers were warming up to him?

They are. Bonds and Clemons got over 50%. You need 75% (I think) to get in. That's up a lot from their first years of eligibility.  They will get in eventually. All of thrm will. Bonds, Clemons, McGuire, Sosa....

mcgruff10 said:

I don't consider edgar a hof.  mcgriff.....border line i guess.  The four that got in are all solid.

Why not? Because he was a DH? How many players can you name that made the hall of fame because of their defense? I can think of one. Bill Mazeroski. 

Edgar certainly has the numbers to be in.

I'd say Ozzie Smith got in because of defense.

Not too many other .262 lifetime hitters with 28 career HR were first ballot HOFers.

Yet Omar Visquel doesn't. Unfortunately he played at the time of ARod, Jeter, Nomar

Poncier

Wobbie said:

Indifference71 said:

Degeneratefk said:

I hate BBHOF voters. They are all uppity bitches.  Edgar and McGriff should be in. 
Chipper, Thome, and Hoffman are no brainers. I guess I never considered Vlad a HOFer.  But that dude could hit a baseball and had a cannon of an arm.

Yep.  Baseball HOF voters are the worst. 

Ken Griffey Jr. somehow wasn't unanimously voted in last year.  Even fucking Babe Ruth wasn't a unanimous vote!  Bunch of pretentious douchebags.

griffey may have juiced

also, I wonder (seriously) what would have been the fastest pitch fat babe ever had to hit.

Griffey most likely juiced, just never got caught and people liked him so reporters didn't try and dig up dirt on him.
His power stats are a perfect bell curve showing the years he juiced and his body breaking down at the end is another tell tale sign.

HesCalledDyer

Degeneratefk said:

Indifference71 said:

Degeneratefk said:

I hate BBHOF voters. They are all uppity bitches.  Edgar and McGriff should be in. 
Chipper, Thome, and Hoffman are no brainers. I guess I never considered Vlad a HOFer.  But that dude could hit a baseball and had a cannon of an arm.

Yep.  Baseball HOF voters are the worst. 

Ken Griffey Jr. somehow wasn't unanimously voted in last year.  Even fucking Babe Ruth wasn't a unanimous vote!  Bunch of pretentious douchebags.

I can understand why Ruth wasn't. It was the first class and he rubbed people the wrong way. 

IT is absolutley absurd that guys like griffey, Mike Schmidt,  Nolan Ryan, Rickey Henderson, and others like that aren't all unanimously voted in. The worst are guys that say "yea, he's a hall of famer,  just not a first ballot hall of famer." How fucking stupid does that sound? What's the fucking difference if it's the first or 4th time on the ballot?

Anyone that didn't vote for ken griffey Jr should lose their vote. And part of the problem is that voters can only vote for 10 guys. Which is stupid. A voter should be able to vote for whoever is eligible. It makes no sense to limit the number of people you can vote for.

Exactly.  If someone's a hall-of-famer, they're a hall-of-famer.  The player has already put in their time and effort. Now you want to make them wait to get in the hall like it's some fucking mental trial or something?  So stupid.

I agree, if you want to vote for everyone eligible, you should be able to do so.  Not just for 10 people.

HesCalledDyer

I'm good with this year's class except for one thing...  Bonds should've gotten in.

WhatYouTaughtMe

Wobbie said:

Indifference71 said:

Degeneratefk said:

I hate BBHOF voters. They are all uppity bitches.  Edgar and McGriff should be in. 
Chipper, Thome, and Hoffman are no brainers. I guess I never considered Vlad a HOFer.  But that dude could hit a baseball and had a cannon of an arm.

Yep.  Baseball HOF voters are the worst. 

Ken Griffey Jr. somehow wasn't unanimously voted in last year.  Even fucking Babe Ruth wasn't a unanimous vote!  Bunch of pretentious douchebags.

griffey may have juiced

also, I wonder (seriously) what would have been the fastest pitch fat babe ever had to hit.

Have you watched Fastball on Netflix? They try to sort out how hard guys were throwing back then.

Degeneratefk

WhatYouTaughtMe said:

Wobbie said:

Indifference71 said:

Degeneratefk said:

I hate BBHOF voters. They are all uppity bitches.  Edgar and McGriff should be in. 
Chipper, Thome, and Hoffman are no brainers. I guess I never considered Vlad a HOFer.  But that dude could hit a baseball and had a cannon of an arm.

Yep.  Baseball HOF voters are the worst. 

Ken Griffey Jr. somehow wasn't unanimously voted in last year.  Even fucking Babe Ruth wasn't a unanimous vote!  Bunch of pretentious douchebags.

griffey may have juiced

also, I wonder (seriously) what would have been the fastest pitch fat babe ever had to hit.

Have you watched Fastball on Netflix? They try to sort out how hard guys were throwing back then.

Yea, looks like guys like Walter Johnson was throwing around 94mph. Ifbi remember right, Nolan Ryan threw the fastest pitch at 108?? Ambi remembering that right? 

Even so, the fields were generally bigger back then.

WhatYouTaughtMe

Degeneratefk said:

WhatYouTaughtMe said:

Wobbie said:

Indifference71 said:

Degeneratefk said:

I hate BBHOF voters. They are all uppity bitches.  Edgar and McGriff should be in. 
Chipper, Thome, and Hoffman are no brainers. I guess I never considered Vlad a HOFer.  But that dude could hit a baseball and had a cannon of an arm.

Yep.  Baseball HOF voters are the worst. 

Ken Griffey Jr. somehow wasn't unanimously voted in last year.  Even fucking Babe Ruth wasn't a unanimous vote!  Bunch of pretentious douchebags.

griffey may have juiced

also, I wonder (seriously) what would have been the fastest pitch fat babe ever had to hit.

Have you watched Fastball on Netflix? They try to sort out how hard guys were throwing back then.

Yea, looks like guys like Walter Johnson was throwing around 94mph. Ifbi remember right, Nolan Ryan threw the fastest pitch at 108?? Ambi remembering that right? 

Even so, the fields were generally bigger back then.

Yeah, they accounted for how and where the pitches were measured from and recalculated to figure out how they compared to today's fastballs.

Edit - 108 is nasty

ehbacon

It's cool that the people being inducted now are players that I actually grew up watching. Nice to see Thome get in