@BlueLedbetter yes we will get in as we’ve tickets for that area 😊 We will just be with everyone else with access tickets instead. Also some of them will have access to the private bar and toilets now being made available.
There will be enough of us to have a blast I’m sure!
2009 - Manchester. 2010 - Dublin, Belfast, London, Berlin, Arras, Werchter. 2011 - PJ20 i & ii, Montreal, Toronto i & ii, Ottawa, Hamilton. 2012 - Manchester i & ii, Berlin i & ii, Stockholm. 2014 - Amsterdam i & ii, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin, Leeds, Milton Keynes. 2016 - Boston Fenway i & ii, 2018 - Amsterdam i & ii, Pinkpop, London i & ii, Padova, Krakow, Barcelona, Seattle i & ii.
@BlueLedbetter yes we will get in as we’ve tickets for that area 😊 We will just be with everyone else with access tickets instead. Also some of them will have access to the private bar and toilets now being made available.
There will be enough of us to have a blast I’m sure!
Yes it will be fine better than the last time way back in GA
Also, looking at some YouTube videos it looks like Krakow definitely has a 10C Golden Circle GA area based on the 2018 show.
Does anyone know if Budapest will? I cannot find any videos of PJ ever playing that arena (if ever), so I cannot determine if we will be lumped in with the masses.
I have reserved for all 3 shows after Budapest, so selfishly I don't really care if any of the rest do.
Krakow does not have a golden circle nor does Budapest. Don't mix up a front pit with golden circle. The difference is with Krakow's set up the front and the back are the same ticket and you can go to either pit. Plenty of public sale fans got into the front pit in 2018 and it was very rough with plenty of people trying to push there way through to the front the whole show. Compare this to Zurich or Vienna who have a golden pit and the back pit can not make it into the front and it looks like very little front pit tickets went to the public for these shows.
There was a barrier in Krakow, but it was wide open from both sides. I didn't even notice it existed during the show.
There has never ever been a separate 10 club section at a Pearl Jam show in Europe, so you are there together with the common folk. (Wembley 2007 was the exception, whole floor was 10 club, but even those might have ended up in general sale)
I will be fine, but my friend coming has anxiety issues so we are gonna have to find a spot along the wall or just go to the back so he doesn't freak out or anything.
In hindsite, I probably should have just waited for the general sale and bought seats for Krakow and Budapest, but it is what it is. Also, I know the PJ fans and everyone should be cool and relaxed for the most part. He should be OK.
'I know I was born and I know that I'll die, the in between is mine.'
There was a barrier in Krakow, but it was wide open from both sides. I didn't even notice it existed during the show.
There has never ever been a separate 10 club section at a Pearl Jam show in Europe, so you are there together with the common folk. (Wembley 2007 was the exception, whole floor was 10 club, but even those might have ended up in general sale)
There have been a couple of separate areas but not exclusively 10c first come first served so 10c early entry got in there I can think of prague in 2018 and dublin in 2006
There was a barrier in Krakow, but it was wide open from both sides. I didn't even notice it existed during the show.
There has never ever been a separate 10 club section at a Pearl Jam show in Europe, so you are there together with the common folk. (Wembley 2007 was the exception, whole floor was 10 club, but even those might have ended up in general sale)
Pretty sure Amsterdam 2012 Night 1 had a 10c section.
Yes, there have been several golden circle / front of stage sections, where you have more expensive tickets (I think Prague 2018 had FOS tickets). There have also been separate front sections, that are first-come-first served. But none of these have been exclusive for 10 club, that was my point.
There was one in Berlin 2006. Here's pretty much the whole 10 club ticket gang inside the section. The 10 club crowds have somewhat increased since then.
@mrk2 there have been Ten Club sections in Europe. Trieste, Vienna and Padova certainly had them
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There was a barrier in Krakow, but it was wide open from both sides. I didn't even notice it existed during the show.
There has never ever been a separate 10 club section at a Pearl Jam show in Europe, so you are there together with the common folk. (Wembley 2007 was the exception, whole floor was 10 club, but even those might have ended up in general sale)
Pretty sure Amsterdam 2012 Night 1 had a 10c section.
I wasn't there so I can't deny that for sure, but sounds like one of those first come first served sections? Mostly 10 club, but also others. Stockholm 2012 had one too. 2012 was the year that 10 club didn't have a proper presale. The whole system crashed, only very few got tickets. The rest had to use general sale. Ten club offered wristbands to every member who managed to get GA tickets.
Why even bother having a big partition in the middle of the GA if you aren't gonna enforce who can get up to the front area?
Seems like all it does is just create a big extra barrier for people to have to push through or get squeezed against.
It keeps the pressure off, the whole floor starts moving in one direction - bad things can happen.
I don't really get it why they don't use the FOS section in more countries. It would definitely keep the front section calmer. For example Krakow and Budapest arenas seem to have this for most other shows. The front is more expensive, and the back is cheaper. But judging by the price, the way this band has it, the whole floor is one giant expensive section....
In Budapest the GA floor is much more expensive than the front section at Kiss show the next night. Kiss show actually has sold out the back of the floor, but not the front. Maybe that tells a little about what people are willing to spend.
Why even bother having a big partition in the middle of the GA if you aren't gonna enforce who can get up to the front area?
Seems like all it does is just create a big extra barrier for people to have to push through or get squeezed against.
It keeps the pressure off, the whole floor starts moving in one direction - bad things can happen.
I don't really get it why they don't use the FOS section in more countries. It would definitely keep the front section calmer. For example Krakow and Budapest arenas seem to have this for most other shows. The front is more expensive, and the back is cheaper. But judging by the price, the way this band has it, the whole floor is one giant expensive section....
In Budapest the GA floor is much more expensive than the front section at Kiss show the next night. Kiss show actually has sold out the back of the floor, but not the front. Maybe that tells a little about what people are willing to spend.
I understand for the most part, but again, if they have the sides open and all that happens is that people without access just push their way up and fill the front area up to 125% capacity then what is the point exactly?
Also, am I the only one that does not understand people's obsession with needing to push as close to the stage as possible when in the GA?
All it does is guarantee that you will be squeezed in like a sardine and won't be able to use the bathroom or grab a beer without it being a complete pain in the ass/next to impossible to meet up with whoever you are with on the way back.
Also, the music sounds exactly the same whether you are 20' back or 200'.
I'm completely fine with a spot in the back or against the wall.
'I know I was born and I know that I'll die, the in between is mine.'
Why even bother having a big partition in the middle of the GA if you aren't gonna enforce who can get up to the front area?
Seems like all it does is just create a big extra barrier for people to have to push through or get squeezed against.
It keeps the pressure off, the whole floor starts moving in one direction - bad things can happen.
I don't really get it why they don't use the FOS section in more countries. It would definitely keep the front section calmer. For example Krakow and Budapest arenas seem to have this for most other shows. The front is more expensive, and the back is cheaper. But judging by the price, the way this band has it, the whole floor is one giant expensive section....
In Budapest the GA floor is much more expensive than the front section at Kiss show the next night. Kiss show actually has sold out the back of the floor, but not the front. Maybe that tells a little about what people are willing to spend.
I understand for the most part, but again, if they have the sides open and all that happens is that people without access just push their way up and fill the front area up to 125% capacity then what is the point exactly?
Also, am I the only one that does not understand people's obsession with needing to push as close to the stage as possible when in the GA?
All it does is guarantee that you will be squeezed in like a sardine and won't be able to use the bathroom or grab a beer without it being a complete pain in the ass/next to impossible to meet up with whoever you are with on the way back.
Also, the music sounds exactly the same whether you are 20' back or 200'.
I'm completely fine with a spot in the back or against the wall.
Too crushed as you spend most of the show worrying about that. Take a few steps back and you get a great view and you have room to bounce and move.
My son and I double tapped on the 10c GA for Zurich so we have 2 spare. We will be in Zurich to pick up the tickets and will have a spare each. Would prefer to sell the 2 together, face value of course.
Why even bother having a big partition in the middle of the GA if you aren't gonna enforce who can get up to the front area?
Seems like all it does is just create a big extra barrier for people to have to push through or get squeezed against.
It keeps the pressure off, the whole floor starts moving in one direction - bad things can happen.
I don't really get it why they don't use the FOS section in more countries. It would definitely keep the front section calmer. For example Krakow and Budapest arenas seem to have this for most other shows. The front is more expensive, and the back is cheaper. But judging by the price, the way this band has it, the whole floor is one giant expensive section....
In Budapest the GA floor is much more expensive than the front section at Kiss show the next night. Kiss show actually has sold out the back of the floor, but not the front. Maybe that tells a little about what people are willing to spend.
I understand for the most part, but again, if they have the sides open and all that happens is that people without access just push their way up and fill the front area up to 125% capacity then what is the point exactly?
Also, am I the only one that does not understand people's obsession with needing to push as close to the stage as possible when in the GA?
All it does is guarantee that you will be squeezed in like a sardine and won't be able to use the bathroom or grab a beer without it being a complete pain in the ass/next to impossible to meet up with whoever you are with on the way back.
Also, the music sounds exactly the same whether you are 20' back or 200'.
I'm completely fine with a spot in the back or against the wall.
Too crushed as you spend most of the show worrying about that. Take a few steps back and you get a great view and you have room to bounce and move.
I don't even care where that spot is in Krakow. I just need like 1' of personal space and I'm cool. Again, I don't care if we even need to leave the front area and go to the back of the whole pit.
The 5 minute mark of this video (which is fucking awesome BTW) pans the entire crowd during Alive. There are definitely spots in the corner that have some space. Also, everyone looks pretty well behaved to me. I'm sure we'll be fine.
I managed to get GA 10C tickets to Vienna (and in public sale also to Krakow, reserved seating, hooray). I want to go to Vienna with a friend who is, unfortunately, smaller in size . Do you have some advice? Is there a good view of the stage in this hall (from the floor)? Is there a big crowd or will we be able to find some "quieter" place? Thanks - and enjoy all the concerts!
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We will just be with everyone else with access tickets instead. Also some of them will have access to the private bar and toilets now being made available.
2012 - Manchester i & ii, Berlin i & ii, Stockholm. 2014 - Amsterdam i & ii, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin, Leeds, Milton Keynes.
2016 - Boston Fenway i & ii, 2018 - Amsterdam i & ii, Pinkpop, London i & ii, Padova, Krakow, Barcelona, Seattle i & ii.
There has never ever been a separate 10 club section at a Pearl Jam show in Europe, so you are there together with the common folk. (Wembley 2007 was the exception, whole floor was 10 club, but even those might have ended up in general sale)
I will be fine, but my friend coming has anxiety issues so we are gonna have to find a spot along the wall or just go to the back so he doesn't freak out or anything.
In hindsite, I probably should have just waited for the general sale and bought seats for Krakow and Budapest, but it is what it is. Also, I know the PJ fans and everyone should be cool and relaxed for the most part. He should be OK.
There was one in Berlin 2006. Here's pretty much the whole 10 club ticket gang inside the section. The 10 club crowds have somewhat increased since then.
2012 - Manchester i & ii, Berlin i & ii, Stockholm. 2014 - Amsterdam i & ii, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin, Leeds, Milton Keynes.
2016 - Boston Fenway i & ii, 2018 - Amsterdam i & ii, Pinkpop, London i & ii, Padova, Krakow, Barcelona, Seattle i & ii.
Seems like all it does is just create a big extra barrier for people to have to push through or get squeezed against.
In Budapest the GA floor is much more expensive than the front section at Kiss show the next night. Kiss show actually has sold out the back of the floor, but not the front. Maybe that tells a little about what people are willing to spend.
Also, am I the only one that does not understand people's obsession with needing to push as close to the stage as possible when in the GA?
All it does is guarantee that you will be squeezed in like a sardine and won't be able to use the bathroom or grab a beer without it being a complete pain in the ass/next to impossible to meet up with whoever you are with on the way back.
Also, the music sounds exactly the same whether you are 20' back or 200'.
I'm completely fine with a spot in the back or against the wall.
How long do they usually take to announce the second show? Seems like in 2018 it was a few months. That can’t be right tho.
Exactly my decision too. Krakow 2018 was stellar, but I moved very far to the back to have a relaxing show... and I usually don't mind crowded pits.
The 5 minute mark of this video (which is fucking awesome BTW) pans the entire crowd during Alive. There are definitely spots in the corner that have some space. Also, everyone looks pretty well behaved to me. I'm sure we'll be fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcN8Zg1Lb7c
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2018 : Amsterdam 1&2, Pinkpop, London 1, Berlin, Werchter, London 2
2020 : ?
Thanks - and enjoy all the concerts!