2020 Tour Rumor Thread

Lerxst1992

pjsteelerfan said:

kaw753 said:

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

pjsteelerfan said:

pjl44 said:

bootlegger10 said:

I understand the point, but I hope people aren’t spending $10k just to see Pearl Jam shows.  That would be odd.   Europe is the draw for me, and the bonus is Pearl Jam shows.  I would pay $300 to see one show or two, but not five at that price.

They're not. He's distorting a point to beat the same drum he beats in every one of his posts. If Pearl Jam charged $500 per ticket, we could finally see them in clubs again.

And to only play in New York.

Imagine playing first where the majority of people live and then go to exotic locales. And charging close to fair market value. Bold concepts. Tool got alot of heat on this forum for doing just that.

Sure fans get to see Europe, which is great. I was pointing out the allocation of funding. PJ cant even charge $200 for tickets without heavy backlash but fans won't hesitate dropping $10k for a vacation that exists because of the tour itinerary. I never said it was the only reason just "centered on." Claiming that is distortion.

Large American cities: "where the majority of people live"
Large European cities: "exotic locales"

I think we can all agree that the Bon Secour Wellness Arena in Greenville, South Carolina is an exotic locale.

That show and city were awesome though. 

Its seems the band doesnt like touring. The last time they played the states they got 7 shows out of a full month and one (yes for a friend and to try to keep a senate seat blue) was 500 miles from any city. They'd rather fly back and forth cross country twice just for off days than maximize their reach to fans right before a nearly 2 year break from the road. 

Are they not playing a 70,000 population Euro city next year? Isnt the point they are playing remote locations? Did the master of rumors not say the tracking was up down back and forth and up down back forth again?



They have absolutely earned the right to work in any manner they wish. And it speaks to the devotion of their fans that will chase the globe to mix in sightseeing with a few shows.

But. If this is about limited resources and a limited number of future years willing and available to tour , why not maximize your reach to as many fans as possible and maximize the revenue, but in the fairest way possible? I'm willing to pay big money to see PJ but I'd rather spend it on the band instead of racking up airline miles by the thousands .

belibeable

dimitrispearljam said:

good iron  maiden put ourt dates..i can work a date so see them as well during pj tour.

The radiostation I'm working for is official radiopartner for the austrian concert I can get you tickets for some more information about the PJ Tour

lellopj

belibeable said:

dimitrispearljam said:

good iron  maiden put ourt dates..i can work a date so see them as well during pj tour.

The radiostation I'm working for is official radiopartner for the austrian concert I can get you tickets for some more information about the PJ Tour

here's the point of no return

Poncier

Lerxst1992 said:

pjsteelerfan said:

kaw753 said:

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

pjsteelerfan said:

pjl44 said:

bootlegger10 said:

I understand the point, but I hope people aren’t spending $10k just to see Pearl Jam shows.  That would be odd.   Europe is the draw for me, and the bonus is Pearl Jam shows.  I would pay $300 to see one show or two, but not five at that price.

They're not. He's distorting a point to beat the same drum he beats in every one of his posts. If Pearl Jam charged $500 per ticket, we could finally see them in clubs again.

And to only play in New York.

Imagine playing first where the majority of people live and then go to exotic locales. And charging close to fair market value. Bold concepts. Tool got alot of heat on this forum for doing just that.

Sure fans get to see Europe, which is great. I was pointing out the allocation of funding. PJ cant even charge $200 for tickets without heavy backlash but fans won't hesitate dropping $10k for a vacation that exists because of the tour itinerary. I never said it was the only reason just "centered on." Claiming that is distortion.

Large American cities: "where the majority of people live"
Large European cities: "exotic locales"

I think we can all agree that the Bon Secour Wellness Arena in Greenville, South Carolina is an exotic locale.

That show and city were awesome though. 

But. If this is about limited resources and a limited number of future years willing and available to tour , why not maximize your reach to as many fans as possible and maximize the revenue

Come clean, you're Michael Rapino, aren't you?

belibeable

lellopj said:

belibeable said:

dimitrispearljam said:

good iron  maiden put ourt dates..i can work a date so see them as well during pj tour.

The radiostation I'm working for is official radiopartner for the austrian concert I can get you tickets for some more information about the PJ Tour

here's the point of no return

By the way... This is a completely new outdoor venue in Austria (Stadion Wiener Neustadt)
The last PJ concert  in Austria was organised by the same agency (just checked my old ticket). Maybe...they have plans for other concerts at this venue? Pearl Jam maybe?

bootlegger10

Lerxst1992 said:

pjsteelerfan said:

kaw753 said:

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

pjsteelerfan said:

pjl44 said:

bootlegger10 said:

I understand the point, but I hope people aren’t spending $10k just to see Pearl Jam shows.  That would be odd.   Europe is the draw for me, and the bonus is Pearl Jam shows.  I would pay $300 to see one show or two, but not five at that price.

They're not. He's distorting a point to beat the same drum he beats in every one of his posts. If Pearl Jam charged $500 per ticket, we could finally see them in clubs again.

And to only play in New York.

Imagine playing first where the majority of people live and then go to exotic locales. And charging close to fair market value. Bold concepts. Tool got alot of heat on this forum for doing just that.

Sure fans get to see Europe, which is great. I was pointing out the allocation of funding. PJ cant even charge $200 for tickets without heavy backlash but fans won't hesitate dropping $10k for a vacation that exists because of the tour itinerary. I never said it was the only reason just "centered on." Claiming that is distortion.

Large American cities: "where the majority of people live"
Large European cities: "exotic locales"

I think we can all agree that the Bon Secour Wellness Arena in Greenville, South Carolina is an exotic locale.

That show and city were awesome though. 

Its seems the band doesnt like touring. The last time they played the states they got 7 shows out of a full month and one (yes for a friend and to try to keep a senate seat blue) was 500 miles from any city. They'd rather fly back and forth cross country twice just for off days than maximize their reach to fans right before a nearly 2 year break from the road. 

Are they not playing a 70,000 population Euro city next year? Isnt the point they are playing remote locations? Did the master of rumors not say the tracking was up down back and forth and up down back forth again?



They have absolutely earned the right to work in any manner they wish. And it speaks to the devotion of their fans that will chase the globe to mix in sightseeing with a few shows.

But. If this is about limited resources and a limited number of future years willing and available to tour , why not maximize your reach to as many fans as possible and maximize the revenue, but in the fairest way possible? I'm willing to pay big money to see PJ but I'd rather spend it on the band instead of racking up airline miles by the thousands .

The point of the tour is to go to the people in that city.  If people want to see multiple shows that is great, but most fans are going to see only one show.  I don’t think they are concerned about 500 people that are wanting to see three shows in a row, or need to be concerned.  Sure, it is great for the traveling fan to have everything logistically make sense. 

mcgruff10

bootlegger10 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

pjsteelerfan said:

kaw753 said:

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

pjsteelerfan said:

pjl44 said:

bootlegger10 said:

I understand the point, but I hope people aren’t spending $10k just to see Pearl Jam shows.  That would be odd.   Europe is the draw for me, and the bonus is Pearl Jam shows.  I would pay $300 to see one show or two, but not five at that price.

They're not. He's distorting a point to beat the same drum he beats in every one of his posts. If Pearl Jam charged $500 per ticket, we could finally see them in clubs again.

And to only play in New York.

Imagine playing first where the majority of people live and then go to exotic locales. And charging close to fair market value. Bold concepts. Tool got alot of heat on this forum for doing just that.

Sure fans get to see Europe, which is great. I was pointing out the allocation of funding. PJ cant even charge $200 for tickets without heavy backlash but fans won't hesitate dropping $10k for a vacation that exists because of the tour itinerary. I never said it was the only reason just "centered on." Claiming that is distortion.

Large American cities: "where the majority of people live"
Large European cities: "exotic locales"

I think we can all agree that the Bon Secour Wellness Arena in Greenville, South Carolina is an exotic locale.

That show and city were awesome though. 

Its seems the band doesnt like touring. The last time they played the states they got 7 shows out of a full month and one (yes for a friend and to try to keep a senate seat blue) was 500 miles from any city. They'd rather fly back and forth cross country twice just for off days than maximize their reach to fans right before a nearly 2 year break from the road. 

Are they not playing a 70,000 population Euro city next year? Isnt the point they are playing remote locations? Did the master of rumors not say the tracking was up down back and forth and up down back forth again?



They have absolutely earned the right to work in any manner they wish. And it speaks to the devotion of their fans that will chase the globe to mix in sightseeing with a few shows.

But. If this is about limited resources and a limited number of future years willing and available to tour , why not maximize your reach to as many fans as possible and maximize the revenue, but in the fairest way possible? I'm willing to pay big money to see PJ but I'd rather spend it on the band instead of racking up airline miles by the thousands .

The point of the tour is to go to the people in that city.  If people want to see multiple shows that is great, but most fans are going to see only one show.  I don’t think they are concerned about 500 people that are wanting to see three shows in a row, or need to be concerned.  Sure, it is great for the traveling fan to have everything logistically make sense. 

Yeah if I convince my wife to go to Europe we'll see one show and chill out in that city and its surroundings for 3 or 4 nights.  We've been doing that the past few tours, will hit the local shows and one city we haven't been to and check it out.  (toronto, st. louis, chicago, boston)

Weston1283

My work year ends on June 19th, 2020

should I save some vacation days for this work year or will I be using next years days?

PJNB

Weston1283 said:

My work year ends on June 19th, 2020

should I save some vacation days for this work year or will I be using next years days?

Are you going to Europe? Mid June to Mid July has been the rumour from the start like most Euro tours. I would say if you wanted to make the start then you would have to save some for this work year. I am guessing here but Amsterdam and a festival (prob Pink Pop) would fall on those first two dates. 

Lost In Ohio

mrk2 said:

Apone said:

Texico said:

My guess the start of the tour will be something like...

18.6 Amsterdam

20.6 (or 21.6) Pinkpop

23.6 ? (Stuttgart, Frankfurt)

26.6 Berlin

28.6 Stockholm

30.6 Copenhagen

2.7 (or 3.7) Werchter

5.7 Imola

Clapton is playing the ziggo dome the 19/6, the schedule seems to suggest most acts have a 1 day gap pre show, which would rule out 18 June.  There is also a Euro 2020 match on the 18th at the stadium just opposite, not sure if this would affect thinking also? 

Celine Dion is at the ziggo dome until the 13/6, so using the same logic it would suggest Pearl Jam shows will fall between 15-17 June

I am still hoping that they squeeze 2 shows in.

There is no need to have a one day gap between different acts at indoor arenas. The previous band loads out in about 2 hours after the show, the next one will start setup in the morning. Happens all the time. 

When they showed Pearl Jam setting for Lexington, it seemed way before that morning. It also depends on the exact setup of the stage.

When Beyonce and Jay-Z toured, that setup took about a week, if not longer. Of course, they had a ridiculously massive setup. The same with Taylor Swift. A lot of the pop acts will have multiple identical stages that "leapfrog" each other to allow for that week of setup.

I can see Celine Dion having multiple setups.

mrk2

Indoor arena productions can be set up in one day, no matter how big. There is absolutely no need to pay rent for an arena longer than needed. Stadium stages are different due to setting up all the supporting structures etc. 

mrk2

Someone mentioning "Pearl Jam rumors." on the efestivals forum's Lolla Paris topic:
https://www.efestivals.co.uk/forums/topic/232202-lollapalooza-paris-2020/

(obviously his rumors could be sourced from here, but who knows. Edit: judging by the post history, it is from here.)

IZI

Tauron Arena Kraków about two hours after Roger Waters show ...4-5 hours is absolutely enough to clear very large  production 

mrk2

Roger Waters massive setup could also be done in one day, in 2018 Ziggo Dome had Bryan Adams concert on previous day, then Roger Waters the next day. After Roger they had Lenny Kravitz, Nickelback and Santana all on back-to-back nights. Like I said, this happens all the time, it is not an issue in indoor venues.

dimitrispearljam

mrk2 said:

Roger Waters massive setup could also be done in one day, in 2018 Ziggo Dome had Bryan Adams concert on previous day, then Roger Waters the next day. After Roger they had Lenny Kravitz, Nickelback and Santana all on back-to-back nights. Like I said, this happens all the time, it is not an issue in indoor venues.

 exactly,,outdoors stadiums  is different 

Apone

dimitrispearljam said:

mrk2 said:

Roger Waters massive setup could also be done in one day, in 2018 Ziggo Dome had Bryan Adams concert on previous day, then Roger Waters the next day. After Roger they had Lenny Kravitz, Nickelback and Santana all on back-to-back nights. Like I said, this happens all the time, it is not an issue in indoor venues.

 exactly,,outdoors stadiums  is different 

Hope the amsterdam show is not the 18th as hotel prices are throught the roof (due to the football at the stadium I imagine)

Robbert

Apone said:

dimitrispearljam said:

mrk2 said:

Roger Waters massive setup could also be done in one day, in 2018 Ziggo Dome had Bryan Adams concert on previous day, then Roger Waters the next day. After Roger they had Lenny Kravitz, Nickelback and Santana all on back-to-back nights. Like I said, this happens all the time, it is not an issue in indoor venues.

 exactly,,outdoors stadiums  is different 

Hope the amsterdam show is not the 18th as hotel prices are throught the roof (due to the football at the stadium I imagine)

You can stay in ( for example ) Rotterdam. Its 45 minutes with the train wich is directly besides the Ziggo Dome

spunky666

Hope Amsterdam is June 16 and/or 17 because i'm going to the Graspop festival in Belgium on June 18th.

aurelgugus

IZI said:

Tauron Arena Kraków about two hours after Roger Waters show ...4-5 hours is absolutely enough to clear very large  production 

It looks like you are lobbying for Krakow !

D.Frank

dimitrispearljam said:

mrk2 said:

Roger Waters massive setup could also be done in one day, in 2018 Ziggo Dome had Bryan Adams concert on previous day, then Roger Waters the next day. After Roger they had Lenny Kravitz, Nickelback and Santana all on back-to-back nights. Like I said, this happens all the time, it is not an issue in indoor venues.

 exactly,,outdoors stadiums  is different 

So maybe Amsterdam June 18 and then Pink Pop on June 20???

Then off to germany for maybe two shows? And after Berlin is Stockholm Lollapalooza?