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    raindog80raindog80 Reggio Emilia, Italy Posts: 1,141
    Yeezus people.  Europe has these month long "festivals" where bands basically play headline shows every night for a week.  EV Barolo was like that.  Cork 2017 was the Marquee Festival.  Not every festival is 3 full days on 8 stages with 120 bands, like Lolla.
    I'm not saying that's what Imola is, I dont know anything, but when someone says "festival" in Europe, dont immediately assume a 90 minute PJ set.
    Well said. 
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    PJNBPJNB Posts: 12,830
    Yeezus people.  Europe has these month long "festivals" where bands basically play headline shows every night for a week.  EV Barolo was like that.  Cork 2017 was the Marquee Festival.  Not every festival is 3 full days on 8 stages with 120 bands, like Lolla.
    I'm not saying that's what Imola is, I dont know anything, but when someone says "festival" in Europe, dont immediately assume a 90 minute PJ set.
    Who is assuming  90 min set?
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    given2fly23given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 5,890
    PJNB said:
    Yeezus people.  Europe has these month long "festivals" where bands basically play headline shows every night for a week.  EV Barolo was like that.  Cork 2017 was the Marquee Festival.  Not every festival is 3 full days on 8 stages with 120 bands, like Lolla.
    I'm not saying that's what Imola is, I dont know anything, but when someone says "festival" in Europe, dont immediately assume a 90 minute PJ set.
    Who is assuming  90 min set?
    People just see "festival" and assume an abbreviated set.  I didn't mean 90 minutes literally.  My point was that not every festival in Europe is like Lolla.
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    PJNBPJNB Posts: 12,830
    PJNB said:
    Yeezus people.  Europe has these month long "festivals" where bands basically play headline shows every night for a week.  EV Barolo was like that.  Cork 2017 was the Marquee Festival.  Not every festival is 3 full days on 8 stages with 120 bands, like Lolla.
    I'm not saying that's what Imola is, I dont know anything, but when someone says "festival" in Europe, dont immediately assume a 90 minute PJ set.
    Who is assuming  90 min set?
    People just see "festival" and assume an abbreviated set.  I didn't mean 90 minutes literally.  My point was that not every festival in Europe is like Lolla.
    I agree especially if it is the only show in well hit countries like Italy and England. Only thing that would stop them if it was a typical fest with restrictions on the time on stage. 
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    Could be like milton keynes full set plus 2 support bands 
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    raindog80raindog80 Reggio Emilia, Italy Posts: 1,141
    Could be like milton keynes full set plus 2 support bands 
    Imola "will be" something like MK 2014. 
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,731
    edited November 2019
    Mike today in RollingStone….

    Q: The band’s last big U.S. tour was a short ballpark run in 2018. Are you booking dates for 2020?

    A: 
    Nothing as of yet. I mean, I hope we can go out. I’m ready to play some music again with my guys and go out and do it. But we don’t have any plans as of yet. Right now, I’m doing stuff like this cool Johnny Cash thing I got to be involved in, and trying to keep busy. I’ve been helping my friends in this band Thunderpussy write some songs and I’m helping them with their second record right now.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/pearl-jam-mike-mccready-interview-johnny-cash-doc-909877/
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    pjrusspjruss Posts: 456
    edited November 2019
    Mike today in RollingStone….

    Q: The band’s last big U.S. tour was a short ballpark run in 2018. Are you booking dates for 2020?

    A: Nothing as of yet. I mean, I hope we can go out. I’m ready to play some music again with my guys and go out and do it. But we don’t have any plans as of yet. Right now, I’m doing stuff like this cool Johnny Cash thing I got to be involved in, and trying to keep busy. I’ve been helping my friends in this band Thunderpussy write some songs and I’m helping them with their second record right now.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/pearl-jam-mike-mccready-interview-johnny-cash-doc-909877/
    I usually feel they’re being coy, not wanting to give anything away. Sadly, I feel Mike is telling the truth....no plans. 
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    vedpunkvedpunk Posts: 826
    #RETIRED Short tours to pay the bills.  Sorry folks. Doesn’t mean I won’t get excited when they announce their “huge” 15 show run though.  
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    vedpunkvedpunk Posts: 826
    #RETIRED Short tours to pay the bills.  Sorry folks. Doesn’t mean I won’t get excited when they announce their “huge” 15 show run though.  
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    disilluziondisilluzion Posts: 1,015
    They should take 3 years off and then come back and melt our faces with 4+ hour shows.
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    pjruss said:
    Mike today in RollingStone….

    Q: The band’s last big U.S. tour was a short ballpark run in 2018. Are you booking dates for 2020?

    A: Nothing as of yet. I mean, I hope we can go out. I’m ready to play some music again with my guys and go out and do it. But we don’t have any plans as of yet. Right now, I’m doing stuff like this cool Johnny Cash thing I got to be involved in, and trying to keep busy. I’ve been helping my friends in this band Thunderpussy write some songs and I’m helping them with their second record right now.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/pearl-jam-mike-mccready-interview-johnny-cash-doc-909877/
    I usually feel they’re being coy, not wanting to give anything away. Sadly, I feel Mike is telling the truth....no plans. 

    But didn't they also say something similar a month or so before Lightning Bolt was announced?
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    D-RodD-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,804
    pjruss said:
    Mike today in RollingStone….

    Q: The band’s last big U.S. tour was a short ballpark run in 2018. Are you booking dates for 2020?

    A: Nothing as of yet. I mean, I hope we can go out. I’m ready to play some music again with my guys and go out and do it. But we don’t have any plans as of yet. Right now, I’m doing stuff like this cool Johnny Cash thing I got to be involved in, and trying to keep busy. I’ve been helping my friends in this band Thunderpussy write some songs and I’m helping them with their second record right now.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/pearl-jam-mike-mccready-interview-johnny-cash-doc-909877/
    I usually feel they’re being coy, not wanting to give anything away. Sadly, I feel Mike is telling the truth....no plans. 

    But didn't they also say something similar a month or so before Lightning Bolt was announced?
    Yes they did.   Made a similar comment in May of 2013 
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,914
    I realize this is totally subjective but what is the Philadelphia of Europe in terms of crowds?
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    Mike today in RollingStone….

    Q: The band’s last big U.S. tour was a short ballpark run in 2018. Are you booking dates for 2020?

    A: Nothing as of yet. I mean, I hope we can go out. I’m ready to play some music again with my guys and go out and do it. But we don’t have any plans as of yet. Right now, I’m doing stuff like this cool Johnny Cash thing I got to be involved in, and trying to keep busy. I’ve been helping my friends in this band Thunderpussy write some songs and I’m helping them with their second record right now.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/pearl-jam-mike-mccready-interview-johnny-cash-doc-909877/
    The optimist says Mike is referring to no US shows being booked as the question asks about US.  That’s what Dimi has indicated, and does not address whether European shows are planned.

    The pessimist says uh-oh he means nothing is planned anywhere and all these Europe rumours might be false.

    The realist says .... DIMI?
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    Kearn5yKearn5y Ireland Posts: 2,701
    mcgruff10 said:
    I realize this is totally subjective but what is the Philadelphia of Europe in terms of crowds?
    What are philly crowds crowds like?
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    MoemaiMoemai The Netherlands Posts: 329
    kst said:
    Mike today in RollingStone….

    Q: The band’s last big U.S. tour was a short ballpark run in 2018. Are you booking dates for 2020?

    A: Nothing as of yet. I mean, I hope we can go out. I’m ready to play some music again with my guys and go out and do it. But we don’t have any plans as of yet. Right now, I’m doing stuff like this cool Johnny Cash thing I got to be involved in, and trying to keep busy. I’ve been helping my friends in this band Thunderpussy write some songs and I’m helping them with their second record right now.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/pearl-jam-mike-mccready-interview-johnny-cash-doc-909877/
    The optimist says Mike is referring to no US shows being booked as the question asks about US.  That’s what Dimi has indicated, and does not address whether European shows are planned.

    The pessimist says uh-oh he means nothing is planned anywhere and all these Europe rumours might be false.

    The realist says .... DIMI?
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,914
    Kearn5y said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I realize this is totally subjective but what is the Philadelphia of Europe in terms of crowds?
    What are philly crowds crowds like?
    The loudest in the us.  See spectrum ‘03.  
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    Italy^^
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    Cosimo82Cosimo82 Posts: 325
    The realist says .... 
    Our mind will blowing up in less than 30 days, then let  NA rumors begin :)
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,153
    kst said:
    Mike today in RollingStone….

    Q: The band’s last big U.S. tour was a short ballpark run in 2018. Are you booking dates for 2020?

    A: Nothing as of yet. I mean, I hope we can go out. I’m ready to play some music again with my guys and go out and do it. But we don’t have any plans as of yet. Right now, I’m doing stuff like this cool Johnny Cash thing I got to be involved in, and trying to keep busy. I’ve been helping my friends in this band Thunderpussy write some songs and I’m helping them with their second record right now.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/pearl-jam-mike-mccready-interview-johnny-cash-doc-909877/
    The optimist says Mike is referring to no US shows being booked as the question asks about US.  That’s what Dimi has indicated, and does not address whether European shows are planned.

    The pessimist says uh-oh he means nothing is planned anywhere and all these Europe rumours might be false.

    The realist says .... DIMI?


    Are you "booking dates" not are you "booking US dates. "

    If I were being an optimist I'd say he asked the interviewer to use the specific term "booking" so he could technically say no about any tour question. 

    To imply they'd travel to Europe in an election year and not play in the states to try to generate change in the White House does not seem plausible.

    I'd be more bummed that he was indifferent about any new album and "pretended" not to know it's been almost 7 years since the last.


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    kst said:
    Mike today in RollingStone….

    Q: The band’s last big U.S. tour was a short ballpark run in 2018. Are you booking dates for 2020?

    A: Nothing as of yet. I mean, I hope we can go out. I’m ready to play some music again with my guys and go out and do it. But we don’t have any plans as of yet. Right now, I’m doing stuff like this cool Johnny Cash thing I got to be involved in, and trying to keep busy. I’ve been helping my friends in this band Thunderpussy write some songs and I’m helping them with their second record right now.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/pearl-jam-mike-mccready-interview-johnny-cash-doc-909877/
    The optimist says Mike is referring to no US shows being booked as the question asks about US.  That’s what Dimi has indicated, and does not address whether European shows are planned.

    The pessimist says uh-oh he means nothing is planned anywhere and all these Europe rumours might be false.

    The realist says .... DIMI?


    Are you "booking dates" not are you "booking US dates. "

    If I were being an optimist I'd say he asked the interviewer to use the specific term "booking" so he could technically say no about any tour question. 

    To imply they'd travel to Europe in an election year and not play in the states to try to generate change in the White House does not seem plausible.

    I'd be more bummed that he was indifferent about any new album and "pretended" not to know it's been almost 7 years since the last.


    Your logic is sound.  Let’s hope either the interview took place long before it was published, or that Dimi can say something to help us interpret the comments.
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    JackD.JackD. Posts: 485
    What did you expect? That he spills the EU tour? There‘s a reason it‘s not announced yet. Contracts, negotiations, money.
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    He could have said something a bit more vague, like we don’t have any definitive plans.  Or he could have dodged and just said he’s focused on other stuff right now.  
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    lellopjlellopj Posts: 233
    JackD. said:
    What did you expect? That he spills the EU tour? There‘s a reason it‘s not announced yet. Contracts, negotiations, money.
    the question about this interview is not the mike dont talk about tours. the problem is that he said that the new album is not ready at all even if someone continue to tell the opposite...
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    KusyKusy Posts: 351
    I work as a music journalist, one thing needs to be said: never believe in things that musicians say in interviews / from the stage.
    Once talked with Maynard James Keenen and all his responses were: yes, right, I can't say. My point is that it's just smoke&mirrors. 
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,105
    edited November 2019
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kearn5y said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I realize this is totally subjective but what is the Philadelphia of Europe in terms of crowds?
    What are philly crowds crowds like?
    The loudest in the us.  See spectrum ‘03.  
    ive been to philly (2013) and to a bunch of european shows. id say all european shows would be as a bottom worst-case-senario baseline on the level of philly. I always mix up the philly 2013 and the amsterdam 2014 shows - maybe in part because of the similiar crowd vibes(?). 

    but spain/portugal/italy I presume is closest to that loud south american vibe.   

    i found the italian crowd in 2006 to be pushy and kind of shitty though. but so was the crowd in Berlin in 2009. So that might have to with other things than what country the show is in. 

    EDIT: ive never met anyone who had a bad experince at Globen, Stockholm 2012 - maybe that says something. 

    remember the crowd at philly being cirtious (spelling?) too. 
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,105
    edited November 2019
    Kusy said:
    I work as a music journalist, one thing needs to be said: never believe in things that musicians say in interviews / from the stage.
    Once talked with Maynard James Keenen and all his responses were: yes, right, I can't say. My point is that it's just smoke&mirrors. 
    lol. this obviously depends on the person behind this blanket ”musican” box you put them in.  
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    lellopjlellopj Posts: 233
    Kusy said:
    I work as a music journalist, one thing needs to be said: never believe in things that musicians say in interviews / from the stage.
    Once talked with Maynard James Keenen and all his responses were: yes, right, I can't say. My point is that it's just smoke&mirrors. 
    so your job is absolutely useless 😂😂
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    KusyKusy Posts: 351
    edited November 2019
    lellopj said:
    Kusy said:
    I work as a music journalist, one thing needs to be said: never believe in things that musicians say in interviews / from the stage.
    Once talked with Maynard James Keenen and all his responses were: yes, right, I can't say. My point is that it's just smoke&mirrors. 
    so your job is absolutely useless 😂😂
    If it gives money and free concerts... wouldn't agree ;)
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