The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
I understand the point, but I hope people aren’t spending $10k just to see Pearl Jam shows. That would be odd. Europe is the draw for me, and the bonus is Pearl Jam shows. I would pay $300 to see one show or two, but not five at that price.
They're not. He's distorting a point to beat the same drum he beats in every one of his posts. If Pearl Jam charged $500 per ticket, we could finally see them in clubs again.
And to only play in New York.
Imagine playing first where the majority of people live and then go to exotic locales. And charging close to fair market value. Bold concepts. Tool got alot of heat on this forum for doing just that.
Sure fans get to see Europe, which is great. I was pointing out the allocation of funding. PJ cant even charge $200 for tickets without heavy backlash but fans won't hesitate dropping $10k for a vacation that exists because of the tour itinerary. I never said it was the only reason just "centered on." Claiming that is distortion.
Large American cities: "where the majority of people live" Large European cities: "exotic locales"
I think we can all agree that the Bon Secour Wellness Arena in Greenville, South Carolina is an exotic locale.
That show and city were awesome though.
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amsterdam pinkpop zurich berlin vienna stockholm copenhagen werchter imola ljubljana prague lodz budapest bucharest/minsk/zagreb??? paris london
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
-95, Stockholm (MirrorBall Tour)
-00, Stockholm
-07, Copenhagen
-09, Berlin
-10, Berlin
-11, East Troy 1+2
-12, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen, EV London 2
-13, London, Chicago
-14, Amsterdam 1+2, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo -16, TOTD San Francisco 1+2 -17, EV Amsterdam 2+3 -18, Amsterdam 1+2, London 1+(2), Barcelona, London 2 -19, EV Brussels
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
I understand the point, but I hope people aren’t spending $10k just to see Pearl Jam shows. That would be odd. Europe is the draw for me, and the bonus is Pearl Jam shows. I would pay $300 to see one show or two, but not five at that price.
They're not. He's distorting a point to beat the same drum he beats in every one of his posts. If Pearl Jam charged $500 per ticket, we could finally see them in clubs again.
And to only play in New York.
Imagine playing first where the majority of people live and then go to exotic locales. And charging close to fair market value. Bold concepts. Tool got alot of heat on this forum for doing just that.
Sure fans get to see Europe, which is great. I was pointing out the allocation of funding. PJ cant even charge $200 for tickets without heavy backlash but fans won't hesitate dropping $10k for a vacation that exists because of the tour itinerary. I never said it was the only reason just "centered on." Claiming that is distortion.
Large American cities: "where the majority of people live" Large European cities: "exotic locales"
I think we can all agree that the Bon Secour Wellness Arena in Greenville, South Carolina is an exotic locale.
That show and city were awesome though.
Its seems the band doesnt like touring. The last time they played the states they got 7 shows out of a full month and one (yes for a friend and to try to keep a senate seat blue) was 500 miles from any city. They'd rather fly back and forth cross country twice just for off days than maximize their reach to fans right before a nearly 2 year break from the road.
Are they not playing a 70,000 population Euro city next year? Isnt the point they are playing remote locations? Did the master of rumors not say the tracking was up down back and forth and up down back forth again?
They have absolutely earned the right to work in any manner they wish. And it speaks to the devotion of their fans that will chase the globe to mix in sightseeing with a few shows.
But. If this is about limited resources and a limited number of future years willing and available to tour , why not maximize your reach to as many fans as possible and maximize the revenue, but in the fairest way possible? I'm willing to pay big money to see PJ but I'd rather spend it on the band instead of racking up airline miles by the thousands .
I understand the point, but I hope people aren’t spending $10k just to see Pearl Jam shows. That would be odd. Europe is the draw for me, and the bonus is Pearl Jam shows. I would pay $300 to see one show or two, but not five at that price.
They're not. He's distorting a point to beat the same drum he beats in every one of his posts. If Pearl Jam charged $500 per ticket, we could finally see them in clubs again.
And to only play in New York.
Imagine playing first where the majority of people live and then go to exotic locales. And charging close to fair market value. Bold concepts. Tool got alot of heat on this forum for doing just that.
Sure fans get to see Europe, which is great. I was pointing out the allocation of funding. PJ cant even charge $200 for tickets without heavy backlash but fans won't hesitate dropping $10k for a vacation that exists because of the tour itinerary. I never said it was the only reason just "centered on." Claiming that is distortion.
Large American cities: "where the majority of people live" Large European cities: "exotic locales"
I think we can all agree that the Bon Secour Wellness Arena in Greenville, South Carolina is an exotic locale.
That show and city were awesome though.
But. If this is about limited resources and a limited number of future years willing and available to tour , why not maximize your reach to as many fans as possible and maximize the revenue
good iron maiden put ourt dates..i can work a date so see them as well during pj tour.
The radiostation I'm working for is official radiopartner for the austrian concert I can get you tickets for some more information about the PJ Tour
here's the point of no return
By the way... This is a completely new outdoor venue in Austria (Stadion Wiener Neustadt) The last PJ concert in Austria was organised by the same agency (just checked my old ticket). Maybe...they have plans for other concerts at this venue? Pearl Jam maybe?
I understand the point, but I hope people aren’t spending $10k just to see Pearl Jam shows. That would be odd. Europe is the draw for me, and the bonus is Pearl Jam shows. I would pay $300 to see one show or two, but not five at that price.
They're not. He's distorting a point to beat the same drum he beats in every one of his posts. If Pearl Jam charged $500 per ticket, we could finally see them in clubs again.
And to only play in New York.
Imagine playing first where the majority of people live and then go to exotic locales. And charging close to fair market value. Bold concepts. Tool got alot of heat on this forum for doing just that.
Sure fans get to see Europe, which is great. I was pointing out the allocation of funding. PJ cant even charge $200 for tickets without heavy backlash but fans won't hesitate dropping $10k for a vacation that exists because of the tour itinerary. I never said it was the only reason just "centered on." Claiming that is distortion.
Large American cities: "where the majority of people live" Large European cities: "exotic locales"
I think we can all agree that the Bon Secour Wellness Arena in Greenville, South Carolina is an exotic locale.
That show and city were awesome though.
Its seems the band doesnt like touring. The last time they played the states they got 7 shows out of a full month and one (yes for a friend and to try to keep a senate seat blue) was 500 miles from any city. They'd rather fly back and forth cross country twice just for off days than maximize their reach to fans right before a nearly 2 year break from the road.
Are they not playing a 70,000 population Euro city next year? Isnt the point they are playing remote locations? Did the master of rumors not say the tracking was up down back and forth and up down back forth again?
They have absolutely earned the right to work in any manner they wish. And it speaks to the devotion of their fans that will chase the globe to mix in sightseeing with a few shows.
But. If this is about limited resources and a limited number of future years willing and available to tour , why not maximize your reach to as many fans as possible and maximize the revenue, but in the fairest way possible? I'm willing to pay big money to see PJ but I'd rather spend it on the band instead of racking up airline miles by the thousands .
The point of the tour is to go to the people in that city. If people want to see multiple shows that is great, but most fans are going to see only one show. I don’t think they are concerned about 500 people that are wanting to see three shows in a row, or need to be concerned. Sure, it is great for the traveling fan to have everything logistically make sense.
I understand the point, but I hope people aren’t spending $10k just to see Pearl Jam shows. That would be odd. Europe is the draw for me, and the bonus is Pearl Jam shows. I would pay $300 to see one show or two, but not five at that price.
They're not. He's distorting a point to beat the same drum he beats in every one of his posts. If Pearl Jam charged $500 per ticket, we could finally see them in clubs again.
And to only play in New York.
Imagine playing first where the majority of people live and then go to exotic locales. And charging close to fair market value. Bold concepts. Tool got alot of heat on this forum for doing just that.
Sure fans get to see Europe, which is great. I was pointing out the allocation of funding. PJ cant even charge $200 for tickets without heavy backlash but fans won't hesitate dropping $10k for a vacation that exists because of the tour itinerary. I never said it was the only reason just "centered on." Claiming that is distortion.
Large American cities: "where the majority of people live" Large European cities: "exotic locales"
I think we can all agree that the Bon Secour Wellness Arena in Greenville, South Carolina is an exotic locale.
That show and city were awesome though.
Its seems the band doesnt like touring. The last time they played the states they got 7 shows out of a full month and one (yes for a friend and to try to keep a senate seat blue) was 500 miles from any city. They'd rather fly back and forth cross country twice just for off days than maximize their reach to fans right before a nearly 2 year break from the road.
Are they not playing a 70,000 population Euro city next year? Isnt the point they are playing remote locations? Did the master of rumors not say the tracking was up down back and forth and up down back forth again?
They have absolutely earned the right to work in any manner they wish. And it speaks to the devotion of their fans that will chase the globe to mix in sightseeing with a few shows.
But. If this is about limited resources and a limited number of future years willing and available to tour , why not maximize your reach to as many fans as possible and maximize the revenue, but in the fairest way possible? I'm willing to pay big money to see PJ but I'd rather spend it on the band instead of racking up airline miles by the thousands .
The point of the tour is to go to the people in that city. If people want to see multiple shows that is great, but most fans are going to see only one show. I don’t think they are concerned about 500 people that are wanting to see three shows in a row, or need to be concerned. Sure, it is great for the traveling fan to have everything logistically make sense.
Yeah if I convince my wife to go to Europe we'll see one show and chill out in that city and its surroundings for 3 or 4 nights. We've been doing that the past few tours, will hit the local shows and one city we haven't been to and check it out. (toronto, st. louis, chicago, boston)
should I save some vacation days for this work year or will I be using next years days?
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should I save some vacation days for this work year or will I be using next years days?
Are you going to Europe? Mid June to Mid July has been the rumour from the start like most Euro tours. I would say if you wanted to make the start then you would have to save some for this work year. I am guessing here but Amsterdam and a festival (prob Pink Pop) would fall on those first two dates.
My guess the start of the tour will be something like...
18.6 Amsterdam
20.6 (or 21.6) Pinkpop
23.6 ? (Stuttgart, Frankfurt)
26.6 Berlin
28.6 Stockholm
30.6 Copenhagen
2.7 (or 3.7) Werchter
5.7 Imola
Clapton is playing the ziggo dome the 19/6, the schedule seems to suggest most acts have a 1 day gap pre show, which would rule out 18 June. There is also a Euro 2020 match on the 18th at the stadium just opposite, not sure if this would affect thinking also?
Celine Dion is at the ziggo dome until the 13/6, so using the same logic it would suggest Pearl Jam shows will fall between 15-17 June
I am still hoping that they squeeze 2 shows in.
There is no need to have a one day gap between different acts at indoor arenas. The previous band loads out in about 2 hours after the show, the next one will start setup in the morning. Happens all the time.
When they showed Pearl Jam setting for Lexington, it seemed way before that morning. It also depends on the exact setup of the stage.
When Beyonce and Jay-Z toured, that setup took about a week, if not longer. Of course, they had a ridiculously massive setup. The same with Taylor Swift. A lot of the pop acts will have multiple identical stages that "leapfrog" each other to allow for that week of setup.
I can see Celine Dion having multiple setups.
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Indoor arena productions can be set up in one day, no matter how big. There is absolutely no need to pay rent for an arena longer than needed. Stadium stages are different due to setting up all the supporting structures etc.
Roger Waters massive setup could also be done in one day, in 2018 Ziggo Dome had Bryan Adams concert on previous day, then Roger Waters the next day. After Roger they had Lenny Kravitz, Nickelback and Santana all on back-to-back nights. Like I said, this happens all the time, it is not an issue in indoor venues.
Roger Waters massive setup could also be done in one day, in 2018 Ziggo Dome had Bryan Adams concert on previous day, then Roger Waters the next day. After Roger they had Lenny Kravitz, Nickelback and Santana all on back-to-back nights. Like I said, this happens all the time, it is not an issue in indoor venues.
exactly,,outdoors stadiums is different
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Roger Waters massive setup could also be done in one day, in 2018 Ziggo Dome had Bryan Adams concert on previous day, then Roger Waters the next day. After Roger they had Lenny Kravitz, Nickelback and Santana all on back-to-back nights. Like I said, this happens all the time, it is not an issue in indoor venues.
exactly,,outdoors stadiums is different
Hope the amsterdam show is not the 18th as hotel prices are throught the roof (due to the football at the stadium I imagine)
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Roger Waters massive setup could also be done in one day, in 2018 Ziggo Dome had Bryan Adams concert on previous day, then Roger Waters the next day. After Roger they had Lenny Kravitz, Nickelback and Santana all on back-to-back nights. Like I said, this happens all the time, it is not an issue in indoor venues.
exactly,,outdoors stadiums is different
Hope the amsterdam show is not the 18th as hotel prices are throught the roof (due to the football at the stadium I imagine)
You can stay in ( for example ) Rotterdam. Its 45 minutes with the train wich is directly besides the Ziggo Dome
Roger Waters massive setup could also be done in one day, in 2018 Ziggo Dome had Bryan Adams concert on previous day, then Roger Waters the next day. After Roger they had Lenny Kravitz, Nickelback and Santana all on back-to-back nights. Like I said, this happens all the time, it is not an issue in indoor venues.
exactly,,outdoors stadiums is different
So maybe Amsterdam June 18 and then Pink Pop on June 20???
Then off to germany for maybe two shows? And after Berlin is Stockholm Lollapalooza?
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AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
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2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
2013.....London, Buffalo
2014.....Detroit
2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
2024.....????
amsterdam
pinkpop
zurich
berlin
vienna
stockholm
copenhagen
werchter
imola
ljubljana
prague
lodz
budapest
bucharest/minsk/zagreb???
paris
london
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
-00, Stockholm
-07, Copenhagen
-09, Berlin
-10, Berlin
-11, East Troy 1+2
-12, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen, EV London 2
-13, London, Chicago
-14, Amsterdam 1+2, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo
-16, TOTD San Francisco 1+2
-17, EV Amsterdam 2+3
-18, Amsterdam 1+2, London 1+(2), Barcelona, London 2
-19, EV Brussels
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
Its seems the band doesnt like touring. The last time they played the states they got 7 shows out of a full month and one (yes for a friend and to try to keep a senate seat blue) was 500 miles from any city. They'd rather fly back and forth cross country twice just for off days than maximize their reach to fans right before a nearly 2 year break from the road.
Are they not playing a 70,000 population Euro city next year? Isnt the point they are playing remote locations? Did the master of rumors not say the tracking was up down back and forth and up down back forth again?
They have absolutely earned the right to work in any manner they wish. And it speaks to the devotion of their fans that will chase the globe to mix in sightseeing with a few shows.
But. If this is about limited resources and a limited number of future years willing and available to tour , why not maximize your reach to as many fans as possible and maximize the revenue, but in the fairest way possible? I'm willing to pay big money to see PJ but I'd rather spend it on the band instead of racking up airline miles by the thousands .
The last PJ concert in Austria was organised by the same agency (just checked my old ticket). Maybe...they have plans for other concerts at this venue? Pearl Jam maybe?
should I save some vacation days for this work year or will I be using next years days?
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
When they showed Pearl Jam setting for Lexington, it seemed way before that morning. It also depends on the exact setup of the stage.
When Beyonce and Jay-Z toured, that setup took about a week, if not longer. Of course, they had a ridiculously massive setup. The same with Taylor Swift. A lot of the pop acts will have multiple identical stages that "leapfrog" each other to allow for that week of setup.
I can see Celine Dion having multiple setups.
https://www.efestivals.co.uk/forums/topic/232202-lollapalooza-paris-2020/
(obviously his rumors could be sourced from here, but who knows. Edit: judging by the post history, it is from here.)
EV 2019 Amsterdam 1+2, Florence, Barolo, Berlin, Dusseldorf
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2014 : Amsterdam 1&2, Milan, Berlin, Werchter
2018 : Amsterdam 1&2, Pinkpop, London 1, Berlin, Werchter, London 2
2020 : ?