2020 Tour Rumor Thread

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  • pearljammr78
    pearljammr78 Posts: 1,613
    Drugs played a huge part in the Grateful Dead shows and the vibe of the crowd. Not saying that’s a bad thing at all, but a PJ show is great sober or high as fuck. 
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  • brewdog123
    brewdog123 ATL Posts: 685
    phish and tool are just as good if not better in the live setting
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  • pearljammr78
    pearljammr78 Posts: 1,613
    Never seen Phish but seem like another band that drugs make a lot better. 
    Tool are phenomenal live but the fact that Maynard hides in the shadows now kinda gets me. Saw Tool in a small theater in 1997 and was one of the coolest experiences ever. 

    What makes PJ so much better to me is the banter from Ed. The variety of the set lists. The fuck up of lyrics or songs. The unity of the crowd. So many other things that I have never experienced at any other show and I’ve been to tons. 

    For my money. Give me PJ or give me death. 
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  • foodboy
    foodboy Posts: 988
    the grateful dead were unbelievable. the 2 channels on sirius that i listen yo constantly are pj and the grateful dead. was lucky to have seen the dead at their peak in 76 and 77' and 80's and 90's too.  those early dead shows would be at least 3 hours of music with a half hour break in the middle. epic. but of all the shows i have seen since 73' eddie coming out to do those pre openers was epic as well. have never to this day seen anyone else do that. bring on a tour. 
  • given2fly23
    given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 6,042
    brewdog123 said:
    phish and tool are just as good if not better in the live setting
    Never heard Phish, but while Tool is an incredible band, the same short set every night makes it a completely different experience than PJ.  The spontaneity of a PJ live show is what has made it worth traveling the world to see 100 shows.

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  • brewdog123
    brewdog123 ATL Posts: 685
    The pj setlists have been real stale the last few years....
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  • pearljammr78
    pearljammr78 Posts: 1,613
    brewdog123 said:
    The pj setlists have been real stale the last few years....
    I tend to agree but they are still waaaaaaaaay better and more varied than 90% of the current touring acts out there. 
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    It did start to feel a little stale at times, yet they still manage to make every show feel special. Weird paradox.
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    edited August 2019
    JimmyV said:
    It did start to feel a little stale at times, yet they still manage to make every show feel special. Weird paradox.
    It is like Law & Order.  Was a hit show for 10+ years even though every episode had the same arc.  Different but the same. 

    All they need to do is move around Porch, RVM, Alive and scrap RITFW and that would fix most of the stale talk.  
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    brewdog123 said:
    The pj setlists have been real stale the last few years....
    Look at the Euro shows from 2018. How can anyone say that is stale? 2016 too. The format maybe stale but setlists have been on fire. Yes they can change their second encores last 3 songs more and their set closers but other than that we have it good imo. 
  • JT167846
    JT167846 Posts: 996
    Yeah agree that there is an obvious formula with where songs go, they have a list of openers, Even Flow mid main set, closers etc. Think there's like 10-15 huge songs, 10 deep cuts and the rest are whatever the fuck they want to play. I've seen them 9 times and am (slowly haha) coming to terms with having seen most of the songs in a gig live-the last few I caught 3 each gig that I hadn't heard. But the point is with such long sets and their wont to change things up makes it so rewarding following them on tour-way more so than a lot of other bands. Tool is my joint favourite and a mindfuck-due to the nature of the music and Adam's direction the light/video show is way better as it's more of a presentation but their sets are more rigid and I don't think you'd get the same value out of seeing Tool for 10 straight gigs as you would PJ or the Boss just due to the set variations.
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    Not thread-related but this seems like the most active thread and my post doesn't warrant it's own thread. PearlJamOnline posted a sweet video I've never seen before, and I don't know what show it's from. But it's a comedy skit with Mike, Dave Grohl, and Kim Thayil. '

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  • PJNB
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Not thread-related but this seems like the most active thread and my post doesn't warrant it's own thread. PearlJamOnline posted a sweet video I've never seen before, and I don't know what show it's from. But it's a comedy skit with Mike, Dave Grohl, and Kim Thayil. '

    "Rock Star Fantasy Camp"

    https://youtu.be/gcHMds8QyNw


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    I think that is from Almost Live a Seattle local show. 
  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    I saw 15 new posts in this thread and got a little excited. Back to being not excited...
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,362
    bbiggs said:
    I saw 15 new posts in this thread and got a little excited. Back to being not excited...
    Agreed. And to make it worse, it was mostly debates about Grateful Dead and Phish. That's worse than me having put "ugggghhh" in the subject line when I changed it to 2020 rumor thread.
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  • brewdog123
    brewdog123 ATL Posts: 685
    http://smarturl.it/TOOLFIs?fbclid=IwAR2ItXYzxJCeqzUMKY14I7qCBOBLv9-PNAGjn6By67jslHZnk5u0y_VBop4

    new tool. still innovating 
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  • RP112579
    RP112579 Tinley Park, IL Posts: 3,388
    brewdog123 said:
    http://smarturl.it/TOOLFIs?fbclid=IwAR2ItXYzxJCeqzUMKY14I7qCBOBLv9-PNAGjn6By67jslHZnk5u0y_VBop4

    new tool. still innovating 
    Weird to put this in a PJ tour thread. Maybe try the "Other Music" section.
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  • brewdog123
    brewdog123 ATL Posts: 685
    tool was mentioned above. there are no pj rumors. i wont taint this rumor filled thread again.
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    brewdog123 said:
    tool was mentioned above. there are no pj rumors. i wont taint this rumor filled thread again.
    Taint away! Nothing coming anytime soon in this thread anyway. We have 95 pages of nothing. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,860
    pearljammr78 said:
    Never seen Phish but seem like another band that drugs make a lot better. 
    Tool are phenomenal live but the fact that Maynard hides in the shadows now kinda gets me. Saw Tool in a small theater in 1997 and was one of the coolest experiences ever. 

    What makes PJ so much better to me is the banter from Ed. The variety of the set lists. The fuck up of lyrics or songs. The unity of the crowd. So many other things that I have never experienced at any other show and I’ve been to tons. 

    For my money. Give me PJ or give me death. 


    The private distribution of PJ tickets driving up resale prices and limiting access is a tiny black mark on an otherwise stellar experience. (Way back when it used to happen).

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