I think people have wanted the option to preorder posters and maybe a tour shirt with their ticket. which I think, given the flippers market, is reasonable.
Options can't hurt. Personally, I enjoy not worrying about merch at shows, and the shitstorm of trying to snag one when Santos does a drop. About the only thing I look forward to at work other than the weekend.
I think people have wanted the option to preorder posters and maybe a tour shirt with their ticket. which I think, given the flippers market, is reasonable.
I don’t disagree with this plus the lines. But again add that into the ticket it’s 175-200. That’s all the high end tickets are
You can get a tix for the show for 30 bucks face in the uppers of citi field. They priced those correctly
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Talk about stadium tours, Green Day on sale for next summer $300-600 for field. Lower level $200 and best uppers start at $180. Lower in a stadium is not exactly close to the stage.
$20 per ticket premium for any seat within 4 from aisle
I know it includes Weezer and FOB, but I think they're naming this tour the Hella Mega Guts Tour?
I guess Green Day is as big as a draw as the top bands but am a bit surprised. Any non airline level seat is over $200 and the best seats double or triple that. I'd rather see them charge close to FMV but...wow.
That is absurd thank god I don’t have not even a gram of interest in any of those bands , I’ll never pay hundreds of $$$ to see PJ ever again I’m sorry but I’m def not into them like I was in 91 through 2000 , so they can keep their ballparks shows to themselves as far as I’m concerned ...
Here is the thing about the Green Day high cost. They have VIP packages for that high price that does NOT involved the band. You get merch. See below.
People have been wanting PJ to offer merch with tickets for years. Those prices is what it would cost. Do the math.
Rainbow Unicorn VIP Package Rainbow Unicorn VIP Package details- Green Day tour
Each Rainbow Unicorn VIP Package Includes: 1 Premium Ticket, 1 Backstage Tour Led by Members of the HELLA MEGA Tour Team, 1 Official HELLA MEGA Tour Litho, 1 HELLA MEGA Commemorative Ticket, 1 HELLA MEGA Water Bottle, 1 HELLA MEGA Bottle Opener, 1 HELLA MEGA Draw String Bag, 1 HELLA MEGA Commemorative Laminate, Access to the HELLA MEGA Hospitality Lounge and Experience with complimentary snacks and cash bar (Where Available), VIP Entrance to the Venue, On-Site VIP Host. NO ARTIST INVOLVEMENT.
Shout out to all the 15 cent trinkets that make the list longer
1 HELLA MEGA Hand Wipe 1 HELLA MEGA Commemorative Pencil Personal HELLA MEGA concierge will Highlight the Seat Number on your Commemorative Ticket and insert it into your Commemorative Laminate
Talk about stadium tours, Green Day on sale for next summer $300-600 for field. Lower level $200 and best uppers start at $180. Lower in a stadium is not exactly close to the stage.
$20 per ticket premium for any seat within 4 from aisle
I know it includes Weezer and FOB, but I think they're naming this tour the Hella Mega Guts Tour?
I guess Green Day is as big as a draw as the top bands but am a bit surprised. Any non airline level seat is over $200 and the best seats double or triple that. I'd rather see them charge close to FMV but...wow.
That is absurd thank god I don’t have not even a gram of interest in any of those bands , I’ll never pay hundreds of $$$ to see PJ ever again I’m sorry but I’m def not into them like I was in 91 through 2000 , so they can keep their ballparks shows to themselves as far as I’m concerned ...
Its a lot of money, and even pearl jam's prices well North of $100 now gives me pause, especially in a stadium setting. Wanted to hit tool this tour and saw the price and bailed. Add in travel costs, refreshments, poster(s) and its a lot of scratch for a consumable experience (and yes, the fact that I have done it 25+ times is a major factor)... Now the major venues/performers and even sports teams have figured out how to tier seat pricing at a micro level based on proximity/comfort/etc like aisle seats.
I recently saw claypool lennon delirium/flaming lips and later trombone shorty for a fraction of these prices and they blew my mind. Like top 5 concert experiences.
I think people have wanted the option to preorder posters and maybe a tour shirt with their ticket. which I think, given the flippers market, is reasonable.
Back on the 2009 tour I remember getting an email from the 10club saying that whoever had tickets to the shows at the United Center could pre-order a poster before the show.
I think people have wanted the option to preorder posters and maybe a tour shirt with their ticket. which I think, given the flippers market, is reasonable.
Back on the 2009 tour I remember getting an email from the 10club saying that whoever had tickets to the shows at the United Center could pre-order a poster before the show.
Spectrum shows, too. There must be something about the process they didn't like to try it and ditch it.
Talk about stadium tours, Green Day on sale for next summer $300-600 for field. Lower level $200 and best uppers start at $180. Lower in a stadium is not exactly close to the stage.
$20 per ticket premium for any seat within 4 from aisle
I know it includes Weezer and FOB, but I think they're naming this tour the Hella Mega Guts Tour?
I guess Green Day is as big as a draw as the top bands but am a bit surprised. Any non airline level seat is over $200 and the best seats double or triple that. I'd rather see them charge close to FMV but...wow.
That is absurd thank god I don’t have not even a gram of interest in any of those bands , I’ll never pay hundreds of $$$ to see PJ ever again I’m sorry but I’m def not into them like I was in 91 through 2000 , so they can keep their ballparks shows to themselves as far as I’m concerned ...
Here is the thing about the Green Day high cost. They have VIP packages for that high price that does NOT involved the band. You get merch. See below.
People have been wanting PJ to offer merch with tickets for years. Those prices is what it would cost. Do the math.
Rainbow Unicorn VIP Package Rainbow Unicorn VIP Package details- Green Day tour
Each Rainbow Unicorn VIP Package Includes: 1 Premium Ticket, 1 Backstage Tour Led by Members of the HELLA MEGA Tour Team, 1 Official HELLA MEGA Tour Litho, 1 HELLA MEGA Commemorative Ticket, 1 HELLA MEGA Water Bottle, 1 HELLA MEGA Bottle Opener, 1 HELLA MEGA Draw String Bag, 1 HELLA MEGA Commemorative Laminate, Access to the HELLA MEGA Hospitality Lounge and Experience with complimentary snacks and cash bar (Where Available), VIP Entrance to the Venue, On-Site VIP Host. NO ARTIST INVOLVEMENT.
Shout out to all the 15 cent trinkets that make the list longer
1 HELLA MEGA Hand Wipe 1 HELLA MEGA Commemorative Pencil Personal HELLA MEGA concierge will Highlight the Seat Number on your Commemorative Ticket and insert it into your Commemorative Laminate
correct but you KNOW that PJ could do those all and there would be ISO moist towlettes posts everywhere
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I’m not buying a poster I can’t see. There are always snoozers that I don’t want. Current system is fine. Especially since we have to buy the tickets well in advance of a show. I’d rather worry about the other costs come the day of the show and not months before.
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I think people have wanted the option to preorder posters and maybe a tour shirt with their ticket. which I think, given the flippers market, is reasonable.
Back on the 2009 tour I remember getting an email from the 10club saying that whoever had tickets to the shows at the United Center could pre-order a poster before the show.
Santos talked about this on the old Rob Bleetstein/Tim Bierman radio show. He kind of implied that it killed the secondary market and that was why they stopped doing it. I remember thinking that was a strange concern to have.
I think people have wanted the option to preorder posters and maybe a tour shirt with their ticket. which I think, given the flippers market, is reasonable.
Back on the 2009 tour I remember getting an email from the 10club saying that whoever had tickets to the shows at the United Center could pre-order a poster before the show.
Santos talked about this on the old Rob Bleetstein/Tim Bierman radio show. He kind of implied that it killed the secondary market and that was why they stopped doing it. I remember thinking that was a strange concern to have.
I'm sure everyone complaining they did not like the artwork (and poster they could flip for a lot of money) for the show they attended did not help either. Or it was the main reason.
...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
Talk about stadium tours, Green Day on sale for next summer $300-600 for field. Lower level $200 and best uppers start at $180. Lower in a stadium is not exactly close to the stage.
$20 per ticket premium for any seat within 4 from aisle
I know it includes Weezer and FOB, but I think they're naming this tour the Hella Mega Guts Tour?
I guess Green Day is as big as a draw as the top bands but am a bit surprised. Any non airline level seat is over $200 and the best seats double or triple that. I'd rather see them charge close to FMV but...wow.
That is absurd thank god I don’t have not even a gram of interest in any of those bands , I’ll never pay hundreds of $$$ to see PJ ever again I’m sorry but I’m def not into them like I was in 91 through 2000 , so they can keep their ballparks shows to themselves as far as I’m concerned ...
Here is the thing about the Green Day high cost. They have VIP packages for that high price that does NOT involved the band. You get merch. See below.
People have been wanting PJ to offer merch with tickets for years. Those prices is what it would cost. Do the math.
Rainbow Unicorn VIP Package Rainbow Unicorn VIP Package details- Green Day tour
Each Rainbow Unicorn VIP Package Includes: 1 Premium Ticket, 1 Backstage Tour Led by Members of the HELLA MEGA Tour Team, 1 Official HELLA MEGA Tour Litho, 1 HELLA MEGA Commemorative Ticket, 1 HELLA MEGA Water Bottle, 1 HELLA MEGA Bottle Opener, 1 HELLA MEGA Draw String Bag, 1 HELLA MEGA Commemorative Laminate, Access to the HELLA MEGA Hospitality Lounge and Experience with complimentary snacks and cash bar (Where Available), VIP Entrance to the Venue, On-Site VIP Host. NO ARTIST INVOLVEMENT.
Shout out to all the 15 cent trinkets that make the list longer
1 HELLA MEGA Hand Wipe 1 HELLA MEGA Commemorative Pencil Personal HELLA MEGA concierge will Highlight the Seat Number on your Commemorative Ticket and insert it into your Commemorative Laminate
correct but you KNOW that PJ could do those all and there would be ISO moist towlettes posts everywhere
Especially if every 100th towlette was printed in red ink instead of black
I think people have wanted the option to preorder posters and maybe a tour shirt with their ticket. which I think, given the flippers market, is reasonable.
Back on the 2009 tour I remember getting an email from the 10club saying that whoever had tickets to the shows at the United Center could pre-order a poster before the show.
Santos talked about this on the old Rob Bleetstein/Tim Bierman radio show. He kind of implied that it killed the secondary market and that was why they stopped doing it. I remember thinking that was a strange concern to have.
I'm sure everyone complaining they did not like the artwork (and poster they could flip for a lot of money) for the show they attended did not help either. Or it was the main reason.
Maybe, but that is not what I remember being said. It was a long time ago though.
I think people have wanted the option to preorder posters and maybe a tour shirt with their ticket. which I think, given the flippers market, is reasonable.
Back on the 2009 tour I remember getting an email from the 10club saying that whoever had tickets to the shows at the United Center could pre-order a poster before the show.
Santos talked about this on the old Rob Bleetstein/Tim Bierman radio show. He kind of implied that it killed the secondary market and that was why they stopped doing it. I remember thinking that was a strange concern to have.
since flipping isn't allowed here, and frowned upon generally, that's either sarcasm or a really stupid thing to say. maybe it's because they realized they could profit off the secondary market as well with their charity auctions?
I think people have wanted the option to preorder posters and maybe a tour shirt with their ticket. which I think, given the flippers market, is reasonable.
Back on the 2009 tour I remember getting an email from the 10club saying that whoever had tickets to the shows at the United Center could pre-order a poster before the show.
Santos talked about this on the old Rob Bleetstein/Tim Bierman radio show. He kind of implied that it killed the secondary market and that was why they stopped doing it. I remember thinking that was a strange concern to have.
since flipping isn't allowed here, and frowned upon generally, that's either sarcasm or a really stupid thing to say. maybe it's because they realized they could profit off the secondary market as well with their charity auctions?
It did not come across as sarcasm. Someone here might have recorded those shows. I'd be curious to see how my memory holds up on this one.
I think people have wanted the option to preorder posters and maybe a tour shirt with their ticket. which I think, given the flippers market, is reasonable.
Back on the 2009 tour I remember getting an email from the 10club saying that whoever had tickets to the shows at the United Center could pre-order a poster before the show.
Santos talked about this on the old Rob Bleetstein/Tim Bierman radio show. He kind of implied that it killed the secondary market and that was why they stopped doing it. I remember thinking that was a strange concern to have.
I'm sure everyone complaining they did not like the artwork (and poster they could flip for a lot of money) for the show they attended did not help either. Or it was the main reason.
Maybe, but that is not what I remember being said. It was a long time ago though.
What they did say is what you remember. I'm just implying that everyone complaining about the posters not meeting their expectations sight unseen and thus not being able to sell them for profit I think also led to it. I think that may have been the main reason they stopped.
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I think people have wanted the option to preorder posters and maybe a tour shirt with their ticket. which I think, given the flippers market, is reasonable.
Back on the 2009 tour I remember getting an email from the 10club saying that whoever had tickets to the shows at the United Center could pre-order a poster before the show.
Santos talked about this on the old Rob Bleetstein/Tim Bierman radio show. He kind of implied that it killed the secondary market and that was why they stopped doing it. I remember thinking that was a strange concern to have.
since flipping isn't allowed here, and frowned upon generally, that's either sarcasm or a really stupid thing to say. maybe it's because they realized they could profit off the secondary market as well with their charity auctions?
It did not come across as sarcasm. Someone here might have recorded those shows. I'd be curious to see how my memory holds up on this one.
so if that's true, he basically states that 10C prefers to fuck over the fans and benefit the flippers. good to know.
I think people have wanted the option to preorder posters and maybe a tour shirt with their ticket. which I think, given the flippers market, is reasonable.
Back on the 2009 tour I remember getting an email from the 10club saying that whoever had tickets to the shows at the United Center could pre-order a poster before the show.
Santos talked about this on the old Rob Bleetstein/Tim Bierman radio show. He kind of implied that it killed the secondary market and that was why they stopped doing it. I remember thinking that was a strange concern to have.
I'm sure everyone complaining they did not like the artwork (and poster they could flip for a lot of money) for the show they attended did not help either. Or it was the main reason.
Maybe, but that is not what I remember being said. It was a long time ago though.
What they did say is what you remember. I'm just implying that everyone complaining about the posters not meeting their expectations sight unseen and thus not being able to sell them for profit I think also led to it. I think that may have been the main reason they stopped.
I personally don't give a fuck what a poster looks like if it's a show I attended. I am admittedly not a poster nut though.
I think people have wanted the option to preorder posters and maybe a tour shirt with their ticket. which I think, given the flippers market, is reasonable.
Back on the 2009 tour I remember getting an email from the 10club saying that whoever had tickets to the shows at the United Center could pre-order a poster before the show.
Santos talked about this on the old Rob Bleetstein/Tim Bierman radio show. He kind of implied that it killed the secondary market and that was why they stopped doing it. I remember thinking that was a strange concern to have.
I'm sure everyone complaining they did not like the artwork (and poster they could flip for a lot of money) for the show they attended did not help either. Or it was the main reason.
Maybe, but that is not what I remember being said. It was a long time ago though.
What they did say is what you remember. I'm just implying that everyone complaining about the posters not meeting their expectations sight unseen and thus not being able to sell them for profit I think also led to it. I think that may have been the main reason they stopped.
I personally don't give a fuck what a poster looks like if it's a show I attended. I am admittedly not a poster nut though.
Unfortunately, those people are a minority on this board. But the day of each show when the posters were available to see people went berserk that they were not the poster equivalent of the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. That is a bigger reason why I think they stopped.
...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
I think people have wanted the option to preorder posters and maybe a tour shirt with their ticket. which I think, given the flippers market, is reasonable.
Back on the 2009 tour I remember getting an email from the 10club saying that whoever had tickets to the shows at the United Center could pre-order a poster before the show.
Santos talked about this on the old Rob Bleetstein/Tim Bierman radio show. He kind of implied that it killed the secondary market and that was why they stopped doing it. I remember thinking that was a strange concern to have.
I'm sure everyone complaining they did not like the artwork (and poster they could flip for a lot of money) for the show they attended did not help either. Or it was the main reason.
Maybe, but that is not what I remember being said. It was a long time ago though.
What they did say is what you remember. I'm just implying that everyone complaining about the posters not meeting their expectations sight unseen and thus not being able to sell them for profit I think also led to it. I think that may have been the main reason they stopped.
I personally don't give a fuck what a poster looks like if it's a show I attended. I am admittedly not a poster nut though.
Unfortunately, those people are a minority on this board. But the day of each show when the posters were available to see people went berserk that they were not the poster equivalent of the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. That is a bigger reason why I think they stopped.
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I think people have wanted the option to preorder posters and maybe a tour shirt with their ticket. which I think, given the flippers market, is reasonable.
Back on the 2009 tour I remember getting an email from the 10club saying that whoever had tickets to the shows at the United Center could pre-order a poster before the show.
Santos talked about this on the old Rob Bleetstein/Tim Bierman radio show. He kind of implied that it killed the secondary market and that was why they stopped doing it. I remember thinking that was a strange concern to have.
since flipping isn't allowed here, and frowned upon generally, that's either sarcasm or a really stupid thing to say. maybe it's because they realized they could profit off the secondary market as well with their charity auctions?
It did not come across as sarcasm. Someone here might have recorded those shows. I'd be curious to see how my memory holds up on this one.
so if that's true, he basically states that 10C prefers to fuck over the fans and benefit the flippers. good to know.
The secondary market benefits the artists. High demand for a particular poster makes the artist more in demand. Not only can they sell s/n artist prints (or blankets and zippos) but other bands are more willing to work with them, it drives people to their website to buy other work not related to the tour poster, etc. If you eliminate the post show delirium of people flipping and people bitching about flipping, the hype goes away and the artist isn’t nearly as successful.
I think people have wanted the option to preorder posters and maybe a tour shirt with their ticket. which I think, given the flippers market, is reasonable.
Back on the 2009 tour I remember getting an email from the 10club saying that whoever had tickets to the shows at the United Center could pre-order a poster before the show.
Santos talked about this on the old Rob Bleetstein/Tim Bierman radio show. He kind of implied that it killed the secondary market and that was why they stopped doing it. I remember thinking that was a strange concern to have.
since flipping isn't allowed here, and frowned upon generally, that's either sarcasm or a really stupid thing to say. maybe it's because they realized they could profit off the secondary market as well with their charity auctions?
It did not come across as sarcasm. Someone here might have recorded those shows. I'd be curious to see how my memory holds up on this one.
so if that's true, he basically states that 10C prefers to fuck over the fans and benefit the flippers. good to know.
The secondary market benefits the artists. High demand for a particular poster makes the artist more in demand. Not only can they sell s/n artist prints (or blankets and zippos) but other bands are more willing to work with them, it drives people to their website to buy other work not related to the tour poster, etc. If you eliminate the post show delirium of people flipping and people bitching about flipping, the hype goes away and the artist isn’t nearly as successful.
you had me at "felated".
edit: you corrected it before I finished my post. LOL
I think people have wanted the option to preorder posters and maybe a tour shirt with their ticket. which I think, given the flippers market, is reasonable.
Back on the 2009 tour I remember getting an email from the 10club saying that whoever had tickets to the shows at the United Center could pre-order a poster before the show.
Santos talked about this on the old Rob Bleetstein/Tim Bierman radio show. He kind of implied that it killed the secondary market and that was why they stopped doing it. I remember thinking that was a strange concern to have.
since flipping isn't allowed here, and frowned upon generally, that's either sarcasm or a really stupid thing to say. maybe it's because they realized they could profit off the secondary market as well with their charity auctions?
It did not come across as sarcasm. Someone here might have recorded those shows. I'd be curious to see how my memory holds up on this one.
so if that's true, he basically states that 10C prefers to fuck over the fans and benefit the flippers. good to know.
The secondary market benefits the artists. High demand for a particular poster makes the artist more in demand. Not only can they sell s/n artist prints (or blankets and zippos) but other bands are more willing to work with them, it drives people to their website to buy other work not related to the tour poster, etc. If you eliminate the post show delirium of people flipping and people bitching about flipping, the hype goes away and the artist isn’t nearly as successful.
you had me at "felated".
edit: you corrected it before I finished my post. LOL
Yeah, I saw that and changed it as quick as I could. 😂
I think people have wanted the option to preorder posters and maybe a tour shirt with their ticket. which I think, given the flippers market, is reasonable.
Back on the 2009 tour I remember getting an email from the 10club saying that whoever had tickets to the shows at the United Center could pre-order a poster before the show.
Santos talked about this on the old Rob Bleetstein/Tim Bierman radio show. He kind of implied that it killed the secondary market and that was why they stopped doing it. I remember thinking that was a strange concern to have.
I'm sure everyone complaining they did not like the artwork (and poster they could flip for a lot of money) for the show they attended did not help either. Or it was the main reason.
Maybe, but that is not what I remember being said. It was a long time ago though.
What they did say is what you remember. I'm just implying that everyone complaining about the posters not meeting their expectations sight unseen and thus not being able to sell them for profit I think also led to it. I think that may have been the main reason they stopped.
I personally don't give a fuck what a poster looks like if it's a show I attended. I am admittedly not a poster nut though.
Unfortunately, those people are a minority on this board. But the day of each show when the posters were available to see people went berserk that they were not the poster equivalent of the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. That is a bigger reason why I think they stopped.
I think people have wanted the option to preorder posters and maybe a tour shirt with their ticket. which I think, given the flippers market, is reasonable.
Back on the 2009 tour I remember getting an email from the 10club saying that whoever had tickets to the shows at the United Center could pre-order a poster before the show.
Santos talked about this on the old Rob Bleetstein/Tim Bierman radio show. He kind of implied that it killed the secondary market and that was why they stopped doing it. I remember thinking that was a strange concern to have.
I'm sure everyone complaining they did not like the artwork (and poster they could flip for a lot of money) for the show they attended did not help either. Or it was the main reason.
Maybe, but that is not what I remember being said. It was a long time ago though.
What they did say is what you remember. I'm just implying that everyone complaining about the posters not meeting their expectations sight unseen and thus not being able to sell them for profit I think also led to it. I think that may have been the main reason they stopped.
I personally don't give a fuck what a poster looks like if it's a show I attended. I am admittedly not a poster nut though.
Unfortunately, those people are a minority on this board. But the day of each show when the posters were available to see people went berserk that they were not the poster equivalent of the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. That is a bigger reason why I think they stopped.
sounds like Mike downplayed the new album this morning, as in still in the writing phase. How can a band member say this and a guy in the know, Dimi, says its done??? Tour with no new album?
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You can get a tix for the show for 30 bucks face in the uppers of citi field. They priced those correctly
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1 HELLA MEGA Commemorative Pencil
Personal HELLA MEGA concierge will Highlight the Seat Number on your Commemorative Ticket and insert it into your Commemorative Laminate
I recently saw claypool lennon delirium/flaming lips and later trombone shorty for a fraction of these prices and they blew my mind. Like top 5 concert experiences.
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edit: you corrected it before I finished my post. LOL
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