For some reason I don't see PJ doing the tiered pricing stuff. They could, but I don't know if it's something they'd do.
I've seen so many other bands do it. Premium Tickets, VIP ticket packages, floating prices, so they go up and down the more interest people show in them. It's ok if you're trying to maximize the revenue from the show. While I'm certain PJ likes getting paid, I'm not sure they feel the need to ramp it up to that level.
I still think we'll get a hybrid tour. Stadiums for the bigger cities and Arena's for smaller ones. Sort of like what Foo Fighteres were/are doing. Some markets are huge and demand is way to high for arena shows. In smaller cities demand is closer to an arena. The bigger the tour, the more Arena dates they'd probably do. If you're only going to play 7 shows, you may was well do stadiums. If you play 25 to 30, then you probably need to mix it up.
I could end up being wrong. I noticed GNR book stadiums the first year or two of their reunion tour. They sold out in big markets, but not in smaller markets. Still they'd sell 40k seats in a 55k venue, where if it was an arena they'd only of sold 18 to 20k tickets. I suppose playing stadiums even if they don't sell out might yield more money.
New album tours can have some great shows. 2013/2014 had some gems. Just curious though if these guys are going to play 28-30 songs a night and 1/3 of those are from a new album how is the audience going to react at a ballpark/stadium? Could you imagine Wrigley 2013 had Future Days, My Fathers Son, Let the Records Play, Sleeping By Myself, and Yellow Moon played in place of some of those gems they got?
Right. You don’t need to sell out a stadium to still get a lot more seats filled than an arena.
But the stadium will cost more to rent. So they have to play the numbers
If it ends up being a stadium tour I hope Atlanta is included. Including Athens, we've got 5 stadiums in the area to pick from.
They could do a Georgia residency instead of a Wrigley one!
I’m sure they’d love coming to Georgia and playing a stadium in the summer.
I could be wrong, but I believe it was Abraham Lincoln who said something like, "Way down yonder on the Chattahoochee, it gets hotter than a hootchie cootchie."
If it ends up being a stadium tour I hope Atlanta is included. Including Athens, we've got 5 stadiums in the area to pick from.
They could do a Georgia residency instead of a Wrigley one!
I’m sure they’d love coming to Georgia and playing a stadium in the summer.
I could be wrong, but I believe it was Abraham Lincoln who said something like, "Way down yonder on the Chattahoochee, it gets hotter than a hootchie cootchie."
If it ends up being a stadium tour I hope Atlanta is included. Including Athens, we've got 5 stadiums in the area to pick from.
They could do a Georgia residency instead of a Wrigley one!
I’m sure they’d love coming to Georgia and playing a stadium in the summer.
I could be wrong, but I believe it was Abraham Lincoln who said something like, "Way down yonder on the Chattahoochee, it gets hotter than a hootchie cootchie."
For some reason I don't see PJ doing the tiered pricing stuff. They could, but I don't know if it's something they'd do.
I've seen so many other bands do it. Premium Tickets, VIP ticket packages, floating prices, so they go up and down the more interest people show in them. It's ok if you're trying to maximize the revenue from the show. While I'm certain PJ likes getting paid, I'm not sure they feel the need to ramp it up to that level.
I still think we'll get a hybrid tour. Stadiums for the bigger cities and Arena's for smaller ones. Sort of like what Foo Fighteres were/are doing. Some markets are huge and demand is way to high for arena shows. In smaller cities demand is closer to an arena. The bigger the tour, the more Arena dates they'd probably do. If you're only going to play 7 shows, you may was well do stadiums. If you play 25 to 30, then you probably need to mix it up.
I could end up being wrong. I noticed GNR book stadiums the first year or two of their reunion tour. They sold out in big markets, but not in smaller markets. Still they'd sell 40k seats in a 55k venue, where if it was an arena they'd only of sold 18 to 20k tickets. I suppose playing stadiums even if they don't sell out might yield more money.
I think you are right, they will probably stick with what they know from the past. But fans state often " well there's so much more money in stadiums and festivals " and that's not necessarily true.
Tiered pricing doesn't have to be outrageously priced like many other bands. Say $300 for the best seats and an average of $200- 250 for an arena show will bring in just about what their 125$ mlb shows do.
They are like going to the world series. How much do those seats cost?
Alot of us are clamoring for arena shows. The intimacy they create in an arena show is what made their live shows so exciting. This just does not translate to stadiums. The wildest memories I have of Fenway 1 are when the crowd sang along. I couldn't really see the band. Kinda depressing
The biggest pot of revenue waiting for them is MSG. They can earn more there than any other venue in the world. The average ticket prices there and number of fans a reasonable distance away is by far the most in the world. Unless they play China.
Under that mix where the big cities get only stadiums, that leaves the biggest money maker on the sidelines. I would pay a big premium for an arena, not a stadium.
For some reason I don't see PJ doing the tiered pricing stuff. They could, but I don't know if it's something they'd do.
I've seen so many other bands do it. Premium Tickets, VIP ticket packages, floating prices, so they go up and down the more interest people show in them. It's ok if you're trying to maximize the revenue from the show. While I'm certain PJ likes getting paid, I'm not sure they feel the need to ramp it up to that level.
I still think we'll get a hybrid tour. Stadiums for the bigger cities and Arena's for smaller ones. Sort of like what Foo Fighteres were/are doing. Some markets are huge and demand is way to high for arena shows. In smaller cities demand is closer to an arena. The bigger the tour, the more Arena dates they'd probably do. If you're only going to play 7 shows, you may was well do stadiums. If you play 25 to 30, then you probably need to mix it up.
I could end up being wrong. I noticed GNR book stadiums the first year or two of their reunion tour. They sold out in big markets, but not in smaller markets. Still they'd sell 40k seats in a 55k venue, where if it was an arena they'd only of sold 18 to 20k tickets. I suppose playing stadiums even if they don't sell out might yield more money.
I think you are right, they will probably stick with what they know from the past. But fans state often " well there's so much more money in stadiums and festivals " and that's not necessarily true.
Tiered pricing doesn't have to be outrageously priced like many other bands. Say $300 for the best seats and an average of $200- 250 for an arena show will bring in just about what their 125$ mlb shows do.
They are like going to the world series. How much do those seats cost?
Alot of us are clamoring for arena shows. The intimacy they create in an arena show is what made their live shows so exciting. This just does not translate to stadiums. The wildest memories I have of Fenway 1 are when the crowd sang along. I couldn't really see the band. Kinda depressing
The biggest pot of revenue waiting for them is MSG. They can earn more there than any other venue in the world. The average ticket prices there and number of fans a reasonable distance away is by far the most in the world. Unless they play China.
Under that mix where the big cities get only stadiums, that leaves the biggest money maker on the sidelines. I would pay a big premium for an arena, not a stadium.
It is quite expensive to run MSG. There's a reason why most bands/companies choose to run other NY buildings over MSG.
And I don't wanna quote or call out anyone because I've been reading it alot in the arena vs stadium conversation but can we stop with my the " Intimacy of an arena" stuff. Arena's are massive buildings too, I grant you smaller than a stadium but there is nothing intimate about an arena.
And I don't wanna quote or call out anyone because I've been reading it alot in the arena vs stadium conversation but can we stop with my the " Intimacy of an arena" stuff. Arena's are massive buildings too, I grant you smaller than a stadium but there is nothing intimate about an arena.
Well, ya know, being able to see the guys without relying on the screens is a nice perk.
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And I don't wanna quote or call out anyone because I've been reading it alot in the arena vs stadium conversation but can we stop with my the " Intimacy of an arena" stuff. Arena's are massive buildings too, I grant you smaller than a stadium but there is nothing intimate about an arena.
Well Pearl Jam isn’t going to play anything smaller than an arena (maybe a one off i.e. hob ‘03). So arenas are definitely 100% more intimate than stadiums. I can’t even see how this is debatable.
And I don't wanna quote or call out anyone because I've been reading it alot in the arena vs stadium conversation but can we stop with my the " Intimacy of an arena" stuff. Arena's are massive buildings too, I grant you smaller than a stadium but there is nothing intimate about an arena.
Well Pearl Jam isn’t going to play anything smaller than an arena (maybe a one off i.e. hob ‘03). So arenas are definitely 100% more intimate than stadiums. I can’t even see how this is debatable.
If they do another stadium tour, here's hoping they they play ..
Olympic Stadium in Quebec
Rogers Centre in Ontario Commonwealth Stadium in Alberta BC Place in British Columbia
.. in Canada.
Rogers Place in Edmonton I think will happen before Commonwealth. Its been 8 years for Edmonton, we have the newer and way better sounding venue and the band typically goes back and forth anyways. Im totally okay with a Calgary date though.
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I'm not sure if they play BC place? At least in regards to 10c members, Vancouver is usually a bit light. The 2013 show had one of the smallest GA pits on the tour (but still sold out and was an amazing show). Still given by the light amount of 10c'ers travelling to Vancouver for a show, I'm not sure there's enough demand for a stadium gig. Who knows though. It's hard to tell PJ's real popularity. They play so few shows, and so many fans travel, you just don't know what the real demand is
I'm not sure if they play BC place? At least in regards to 10c members, Vancouver is usually a bit light. The 2013 show had one of the smallest GA pits on the tour (but still sold out and was an amazing show). Still given by the light amount of 10c'ers travelling to Vancouver for a show, I'm not sure there's enough demand for a stadium gig. Who knows though. It's hard to tell PJ's real popularity. They play so few shows, and so many fans travel, you just don't know what the real demand is
thats a good point too, unless they do a Canadian tour (meaning no Seattle date) Vancouver won't have much demand with Seattle so close. Rogers Arena again....Damn Rogers owns a lot of venues in Canada
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Here are my thoughts after reading all of these posts...
So let's say it is based around it being an election year. If that were the case and they wanted people to get registered to vote, wouldn't it make the most sense to do it at places where people perhaps are not that into politics yet? With that being said, I say it is going to be a tour around college campuses where they can try to get the "kids" to register to vote.
And I don't wanna quote or call out anyone because I've been reading it alot in the arena vs stadium conversation but can we stop with my the " Intimacy of an arena" stuff. Arena's are massive buildings too, I grant you smaller than a stadium but there is nothing intimate about an arena.
Its OK. We can civilly discuss opinions.
A big advantage of arenas is, as we all are familiar with, they sell out side stage and rear stage for US shows.
A baseball stadium has a huge outfield. You can fit a hockey rink from the stage to the nearest stadium seat. The turf seats are underneath the stage and any fan under 6'2" will have a good portion of their view blocked.There are no rearview seats and the side stage seats are 150 feet away.
In an arena show in the US, they are completely surrounded by us. So many fans are right on top of the stage. IMO there is no comparison of the energy and intimacy that setting provides.
seems Global Citizens is doing a huge concert next year like Live Aid. On two continents. I imagine PJ will play. And they did Tweet out picture of Global Citizens last week. I think I saw that the announcement for that is coming soon too.
So many show's I've seen in the last few years have been at stadiums. When I went to see the Foo Fighters play Vancouver last year it was in the Arena. It felt so small. I never felt like that about an Arena show before. It was crazy.
And I don't wanna quote or call out anyone because I've been reading it alot in the arena vs stadium conversation but can we stop with my the " Intimacy of an arena" stuff. Arena's are massive buildings too, I grant you smaller than a stadium but there is nothing intimate about an arena.
Its OK. We can civilly discuss opinions.
A big advantage of arenas is, as we all are familiar with, they sell out side stage and rear stage for US shows.
A baseball stadium has a huge outfield. You can fit a hockey rink from the stage to the nearest stadium seat. The turf seats are underneath the stage and any fan under 6'2" will have a good portion of their view blocked.There are no rearview seats and the side stage seats are 150 feet away.
In an arena show in the US, they are completely surrounded by us. So many fans are right on top of the stage. IMO there is no comparison of the energy and intimacy that setting provides.
seems Global Citizens is doing a huge concert next year like Live Aid. On two continents. I imagine PJ will play. And they did Tweet out picture of Global Citizens last week. I think I saw that the announcement for that is coming soon too.
And I don't wanna quote or call out anyone because I've been reading it alot in the arena vs stadium conversation but can we stop with my the " Intimacy of an arena" stuff. Arena's are massive buildings too, I grant you smaller than a stadium but there is nothing intimate about an arena.
Its OK. We can civilly discuss opinions.
A big advantage of arenas is, as we all are familiar with, they sell out side stage and rear stage for US shows.
A baseball stadium has a huge outfield. You can fit a hockey rink from the stage to the nearest stadium seat. The turf seats are underneath the stage and any fan under 6'2" will have a good portion of their view blocked.There are no rearview seats and the side stage seats are 150 feet away.
In an arena show in the US, they are completely surrounded by us. So many fans are right on top of the stage. IMO there is no comparison of the energy and intimacy that setting provides.
I will always vote for arenas over stadiums.
Just saw Eric Clapton Saturday night in an arena. We were 15 rows up on the side by the front of the stage. It was a great view and sound was awesome. If that had been a stadium we would have been 100 yards away or more and it would have sucked.
Always smaller before bigger when it comes to concert venues.
An arena isnt 'intimate'... but it is certainly way, way more intimate than a baseball stadium. An arena could feel intimate at times too, which is one of the great things about Pearl Jam shows. They kind of draw you on stage as the center of the universe. I dont/didnt get this at the ballpark shows I went to at all.
An arena isnt 'intimate'... but it is certainly way, way more intimate than a baseball stadium. An arena could feel intimate at times too, which is one of the great things about Pearl Jam shows. They kind of draw you on stage as the center of the universe. I dont/didnt get this at the ballpark shows I went to at all.
The way they have the fans surround them creates such a buzz in an arena. To be above the stage and watch the drumming is impossible at a stadium. And has been said, if its windy outdoors, goodbye sound.
Someone above said they're maybe doing Global Citizen next year. If that's their NY show that's brutal. Short set, lots of teens waving their phones at beyonce just poor compared to an arena show.
I know they believe in this cause but their performances are an endangered species right now. They are not a prolific touring band lately and could be heading towards their final years as a live band.
They could do so much more for politics by promising any swing states that flip to the Dems a show or 2 on a future leg. If they are ever going to get out the vote, that seems how. Rock the vote in 2000? Bush still "won."
they could also do an extended residency at any NY metro arena or stadium and raise a ton for global charity (or any of the centrally located NE cities). 60 million ppl within 4 hours drive.
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I think you are right, they will probably stick with what they know from the past. But fans state often " well there's so much more money in stadiums and festivals " and that's not necessarily true.
Tiered pricing doesn't have to be outrageously priced like many other bands. Say $300 for the best seats and an average of $200- 250 for an arena show will bring in just about what their 125$ mlb shows do.
They are like going to the world series. How much do those seats cost?
Alot of us are clamoring for arena shows. The intimacy they create in an arena show is what made their live shows so exciting. This just does not translate to stadiums. The wildest memories I have of Fenway 1 are when the crowd sang along. I couldn't really see the band. Kinda depressing
The biggest pot of revenue waiting for them is MSG. They can earn more there than any other venue in the world. The average ticket prices there and number of fans a reasonable distance away is by far the most in the world. Unless they play China.
Under that mix where the big cities get only stadiums, that leaves the biggest money maker on the sidelines. I would pay a big premium for an arena, not a stadium.
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So let's say it is based around it being an election year. If that were the case and they wanted people to get registered to vote, wouldn't it make the most sense to do it at places where people perhaps are not that into politics yet? With that being said, I say it is going to be a tour around college campuses where they can try to get the "kids" to register to vote.
Its OK. We can civilly discuss opinions.
A big advantage of arenas is, as we all are familiar with, they sell out side stage and rear stage for US shows.
A baseball stadium has a huge outfield. You can fit a hockey rink from the stage to the nearest stadium seat. The turf seats are underneath the stage and any fan under 6'2" will have a good portion of their view blocked.There are no rearview seats and the side stage seats are 150 feet away.
In an arena show in the US, they are completely surrounded by us. So many fans are right on top of the stage. IMO there is no comparison of the energy and intimacy that setting provides.
Just saw Eric Clapton Saturday night in an arena.
We were 15 rows up on the side by the front of the stage. It was a great view and sound was awesome.
If that had been a stadium we would have been 100 yards away or more and it would have sucked.
Always smaller before bigger when it comes to concert venues.
The way they have the fans surround them creates such a buzz in an arena. To be above the stage and watch the drumming is impossible at a stadium. And has been said, if its windy outdoors, goodbye sound.
Someone above said they're maybe doing Global Citizen next year. If that's their NY show that's brutal. Short set, lots of teens waving their phones at beyonce just poor compared to an arena show.
I know they believe in this cause but their performances are an endangered species right now. They are not a prolific touring band lately and could be heading towards their final years as a live band.
They could do so much more for politics by promising any swing states that flip to the Dems a show or 2 on a future leg. If they are ever going to get out the vote, that seems how. Rock the vote in 2000? Bush still "won."
they could also do an extended residency at any NY metro arena or stadium and raise a ton for global charity (or any of the centrally located NE cities). 60 million ppl within 4 hours drive.
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