New Ticket Policy Changes Simplified

jeffbr

AmishGuy91 said:

Eddieredder said:

AmishGuy91 said:

How will they prevent the ticket from only being accessed by the "assigned" phone?  What if you change phones in the meantime?  I guess I don't understand how they will restrict the tickets to the original buyer.

It won't be stored on your phone itself. Most likely you'll have to access ticketmaster and get your ticket there or via their app. Its no different than how ticketmaster handles mobile tickets now. 

Then you can easily share that.....

Only if you're willing to share your Ticketmaster or 10c login credentials with someone else. I think the point is that the owner of the tickets will have those tickets in his/her account. You'll need to log in via your phone, pull up the mobile tickets and have them scanned. So these tickets won't necessarily have an "assigned phone" but they will have an assigned account holder.

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Ledbetterman10

given2fly23 said:

There are still people who have flip-phones, seriously.

I agree, I had been asking for credit card/immediate entry for years.  Worked great for U2 for the last 10 years.

GA at Iron Maiden in Philly was like that. I thought it worked well. 

PJ_Soul

Ledbetterman10 said:

given2fly23 said:

There are still people who have flip-phones, seriously.

I agree, I had been asking for credit card/immediate entry for years.  Worked great for U2 for the last 10 years.

GA at Iron Maiden in Philly was like that. I thought it worked well. 

And then all the people who don't have a credit card would be coming out of the woodwork, lol.

P-Town-P-Jam-Fan

Again, Ticketmaster is in the business of selling tickets.  The paperless ticketing hurt their own scalper sites as paperless could not be resold.  Verified can be re-sold and so its a bigger piece of pie for ticketmaster to do verified vs true paperless.  Its a giant conflict of interest as PJ_Soul mentioned earlier in the thread, ticketmaster should be in the business of re-selling if they are also the primary ticket vendor.

Eddieredder

AmishGuy91 said:

Eddieredder said:

AmishGuy91 said:

How will they prevent the ticket from only being accessed by the "assigned" phone?  What if you change phones in the meantime?  I guess I don't understand how they will restrict the tickets to the original buyer.

It won't be stored on your phone itself. Most likely you'll have to access ticketmaster and get your ticket there or via their app. Its no different than how ticketmaster handles mobile tickets now. 

Then you can easily share that.....

sure. but once its scanned it can't be used again like any other ticket. GA/floor seats will have wristbands as a secondary measure. 

P-Town-P-Jam-Fan

Since Wrigley nor Fenway use ticketmaster for ticketing, I doubt it will have anything to do with a ticketmaster account.  More than likely, we will be registering our phone numbers when we put in for the lottery.  Lottery winners will have the mobile tix pushed through via text message a few days before the events.  I imagine we will log into the 10C website via the link they send and download the barcodes or QR codes or whatever they end up using.

Eddieredder

PJ_Soul said:

Eddieredder said:

PJ_Soul said:

Kearn5y said:

PJ_Soul said:

Kearn5y said:

Bentleyspop said:

Kearn5y said:

Can a Ticketmaster Verified Fan ticket be resold on one of their Fan to Fan resale sites?

In theory yes
all of the major reselling sites as well

At higher prices?

Yes.

So its a flawed system then.

Well yeah, any ticket reselling system is flawed if you think higher than face value = flawed. I mean, just the fact that TicketMaster has its own ticket reselling system seems like it should be completely illegal, but for some reason the powers that be allow it to happen.

Its an industry problem. The promoter, venue, and TM always get their allotment of tickets which end up on third party sites. Add in the ticket bots/scalpers. Then add in the fan club and presales.......by the time a show is on sale to the public there are only around 20% of the available seats really available. Maybe even less. The promoter, venue, or TM isn't going to stop it because they all benefit. THE BAND NEEDS TO MAKE DEMANDS...........but there is only so much they can do.  

The band making demands won't do anything - I think PJ proved that back in the 90s, lol. The only thing that will make a difference is the politicians. The lawmakers. And they don't seem overly anxious to try very hard to solve this unscrupulous situation.

Probably true. Its always three (ticketmaster, promoter, venue) vs one (the band). You never know though. Bands with enough pull can at least try. TM isn't going to budge, but maybe you can strong arm the promoter/venue to give up some or all of their normal allotment. If a U@ or PJ says they will never play the venue again unless they get their demands it might make a difference. Agreed though. Its unlikely.

KC138045

I have season tickets for The Bluejackets and its mobile entry for games. I just transfer the tickets to my apple wallet before each game. It's works great!  If anyone uses apple or Samsung pay it's essentially the same. 

Thirty Bills Unpaid

I anticipate problems of some sort.

Somebody mentioned U2 and credit card entry. Their last show in Vancouver was a disaster. I don't say this lightly.

If it's a matter of displaying your bar code on your phone it won't be too bad, but if it's anything more than that... eesh.

jdopj

BS44325 said:

I dig this new system. I was never a fan of the multiple memberships per household. This should get people to think twice about double/triple entering for the same draw. 

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nycrats

Will be interesting to see what happens if when they go back to arenas. This is a good start to squashing scalpers and getting fans in(no system is perfect, someone will always try and game the system). But arenas won’t be able to guarantee all/most fans get in. 

SmallestOceans

Just in theory, what about people that don't have smart phones...how do they get scanned in?

my2hands

MayDay10 said:

This is a GREAT change

My biggest complaint with the lottery system was how people who buddied up or those with spouses, kids, etc could tip the lottery scales in their favor quite a bit.  People were parlaying extra pairs they won into pairs for additional shows. 
Another side effect is people would enter seated area lottery with a good 10c number, and their newer #s bought for spouses (or just a newer member) would go toward acquiring GA tix.  As a result, the mid-seniority seat locations on about 275xxx on up was degraded.

This evens the playing field for the most part, or at least makes it much more inconvenient to shirk the system

I don't think this stops that at all with GA... you can transfer the extra to anybody you want in GA easily because there aren't actual seats, once you're in you're good

Im ok with the changes if it helps get more tix in more 10c hands... and I like reserved so it will definitely cut down on multiple entries for reserved, but I don't see it stopping multiple entries for GA

I do hate not having a hard ticket, that sucks big time!

PJ_Soul

jdopj said:

BS44325 said:

I dig this new system. I was never a fan of the multiple memberships per household. This should get people to think twice about double/triple entering for the same draw. 

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Yeah, it's a good point. I know those double and triple dippers are mad, but I wonder if they've really thought about how fair that is, lol.

eeriepadave

Like most people i'm a fan of the hard ticket to add to my collection but I understand why they did it. 

BRONDO

So even the public sale Ticketmaster tickets will not be hard tickets??

SmallestOceans

Swinger ticket couples where you at? (Joking )

RoleModelsinBlood31

I think people are overthinking this whole thing.  As far as I’m concerned, if I want to go to the show, I can either try 10c lottery or go ticketbastard.  If I try through the 10c lottery, I plan on using the tickets I get.  They’re pretty much guaranteeing me tickets, I just have to understand they could be fucking anywhere.  GA is going to be a bigger gamble, but the proximity to stage will be closer.  Gone are the days of a lottery for great seats, now it’s all about a lottery with pretty much guaranteed tickets to the show, but they are going to be further away than we’re used to.  If you want to play the ticket game we all have played for years, your only option is to try Ticketmaster and sell them if they suck- no longer can we sell our 10c tix, those are locked in.

overall, I love the idea.  My member # is only average anyway so I havnt gotten amazing seats since back in 98 before I I let my shit lapse.  This band is fucking huge now and they’re making everything modern and fair, and I think it’s badass that they’re leading the way to fight the bullshit of reselling the tickets.  Reminds me of the 96 Ticketmaster battle days, and I appreciate the band doing it this way.  If you want to use your 10c membership for tickets, you’re using the tickets you get to see the show, regardless of what you get.  You’re buying Ticketmaster seats also if you care where your seats are.  

kramer73

eeriepadave said:

Like most people i'm a fan of the hard ticket to add to my collection but I understand why they did it. 

Yes, it fucking sucks.

But....you could always take a screen shot and print it out on good paper later.