Am I overreacting by being upset at this Seinfeld joke?

lastexitlondon

People often laugh at things they are scared of. 
This guy isn't funny full stop.
Throw the boxset in the bin and leave this where it belongs. Just un funny in my opinion. Its not clever "comedy" in my eyes. 

Thoughts_Arrive

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Would jokes about the holocaust or what African-Americans went through be an exception? Or is it still if we start setting limits, it's only a matter of time until everything is off limits?

Yeah, it's only a matter of time. 
You've never heard Holocaust or slavery jokes?
Are you new to comedy?
No exceptions.

If you have to ask yourself if you're right to be offended by a joke, you've already got your answer.

I don't think things like that are for joking. That's just me.

Maybe comedy is not for you?

Not that kind of comedy. 

There's always Bill Cosby, he may have been raping ladies, but his comedy was clean.

I'll just stick to my beloved Simpsons.

Thoughts_Arrive

lastexitlondon said:

People often laugh at things they are scared of. 
This guy isn't funny full stop.
Throw the boxset in the bin and leave this where it belongs. Just un funny in my opinion. Its not clever "comedy" in my eyes. 

I don't have much of an income being a full-time student.
Wish I saved my $65.
I've loved every episode, laughed a lot but when I got to this episode it's disgusted me. 
I'll see if I can exchange it for a store voucher and spend it on something else.

lastexitlondon

If not trade it. Or put it up on RAK. I mean ive never seen the guy before. He is a nobody in uk. But there is something for everyone i guess.As we say here. Not my cup of tea

Who Princess

I'm a pretty irreverent person and I'll joke about almost anything, but I think there's a time and a place for that kind of humor.   I also think that we all have a boundary when it comes to certain topics, based on our own beliefs and experiences.  For example, I won't tolerate jokes about rape.  Let's just say I've had enough experience with the reality that I'll never find it funny.

I do a lot of training and public speaking.  I used to train with a guy from another organization that was an expert on suicide.  He'd begin his presentations by saying that there wasn't going to be any joking about the subject while he was speaking.  He acknowledged that people may laugh about suicide in some settings and he in fact collected suicide jokes, which he'd share in other circumstances.  But there would be no laughing about it while everyone was learning.  I liked the way he handled it.

You don't have to like every joke to appreciate comedy.  I don't think you're overreacting when you've got your own feelings about it and you're entitled to them.

If you can't get past the joke to enjoy the rest of the series, I can understand that too.  Lots of people think Lily Tomlin is funny and talented.  She came to my university and did a stand up routine.  She was absolutely the rudest, most offensive (in terms of how she treated her audience) performer I've ever encountered.  That was many, many years ago and I still don't like her or anything she does.  I can't get past remembering how rude and insulting she was when I saw her live.

Thoughts_Arrive

lastexitlondon said:

If not trade it. Or put it up on RAK. I mean ive never seen the guy before. He is a nobody in uk. But there is something for everyone i guess.As we say here. Not my cup of tea

What's RAK?

Thoughts_Arrive

My grandmother committed suicide, so this one is personal to me.

oftenreading

Thoughts_Arrive said:

lastexitlondon said:

If not trade it. Or put it up on RAK. I mean ive never seen the guy before. He is a nobody in uk. But there is something for everyone i guess.As we say here. Not my cup of tea

What's RAK?

Thread on Lost Dogs. It stands for Random Act of Kindness.

hedonist

Sam Kinison talking about starving countries is among my favorites.  Doesn't mean i laugh at people actually needing sustenance.  We find humor where we can and do, and within that, our own kind of comfort.

Not for you?  Walk away, toss it, sell it.

If someone doesn't dig a certain stance, fine.  Get rid of it, let the offense to you or whomever do its thing for better or worse, and move on.

Put that energy to good use?

northerndragon

rgambs said:

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You should just be offended by the fact that it's the most unfunny show ever. 

Are you saying that Two and a Half Men is funnier than Seinfeld?
Big Bang Theory?
Joanie Loves Chachi is funnier than Seinfeld??

Yes,  I have laughed at least once at each of those shows. Which is more than I have laughed at anything Seinfeld. Seinfeld sucks, always has always will.

Thoughts_Arrive

What he pretty much is doing is making suicide survivors ashamed and mocking them. Imagine being one of those people and hearing this. Pretty much encouraging them.

rgambs

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You should just be offended by the fact that it's the most unfunny show ever. 

Are you saying that Two and a Half Men is funnier than Seinfeld?
Big Bang Theory?
Joanie Loves Chachi is funnier than Seinfeld??

Yes,  I have laughed at least once at each of those shows. Which is more than I have laughed at anything Seinfeld. Seinfeld sucks, always has always will.

Yeah, sure, the rest of the world is the crazy ones and you're right, Joanie Loves Chachi is funnier than Seinfeld lol 

rgambs

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What he pretty much is doing is making suicide survivors ashamed and mocking them. Imagine being one of those people and hearing this. Pretty much encouraging them.

Do you think Jerry Seinfeld wants people to kill themselves?

Thoughts_Arrive

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What he pretty much is doing is making suicide survivors ashamed and mocking them. Imagine being one of those people and hearing this. Pretty much encouraging them.

Do you think Jerry Seinfeld wants people to kill themselves?

No. But imagine being in mental crisis and hearing that you're a failure for failing to kill yourself and then hearing solutions to try again. If someone was in a fragile state and heard this "joke" it'd be like kicking them when they're down.

rgambs

Thoughts_Arrive said:

rgambs said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

What he pretty much is doing is making suicide survivors ashamed and mocking them. Imagine being one of those people and hearing this. Pretty much encouraging them.

Do you think Jerry Seinfeld wants people to kill themselves?

No. But imagine being in mental crisis and hearing that you're a failure for failing to kill yourself and then hearing solutions to try again. If someone was in a fragile state and heard this "joke" it'd be like kicking them when they're down.

Yeah, I understand that.
The problem I have with it is that it is a never ending progression of taboo subjects and I don't support that at all.

For the record, my brother committed suicide and this doesn't bother me. 
If you can't joke about the things in life that are painful, what's the point of joking at all?

Thoughts_Arrive

rgambs said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

rgambs said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

What he pretty much is doing is making suicide survivors ashamed and mocking them. Imagine being one of those people and hearing this. Pretty much encouraging them.

Do you think Jerry Seinfeld wants people to kill themselves?

No. But imagine being in mental crisis and hearing that you're a failure for failing to kill yourself and then hearing solutions to try again. If someone was in a fragile state and heard this "joke" it'd be like kicking them when they're down.

Yeah, I understand that.
The problem I have with it is that it is a never ending progression of taboo subjects and I don't support that at all.

For the record, my brother committed suicide and this doesn't bother me. 
If you can't joke about the things in life that are painful, what's the point of joking at all?

I wouldn't joke about topics like this. I'd find something else to joke about.
Each to their own.
Sorry about your brother.

northerndragon

rgambs said:

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You should just be offended by the fact that it's the most unfunny show ever. 

Are you saying that Two and a Half Men is funnier than Seinfeld?
Big Bang Theory?
Joanie Loves Chachi is funnier than Seinfeld??

Yes,  I have laughed at least once at each of those shows. Which is more than I have laughed at anything Seinfeld. Seinfeld sucks, always has always will.

Yeah, sure, the rest of the world is the crazy ones and you're right, Joanie Loves Chachi is funnier than Seinfeld lol 

Sorry you're all butthurt to find out not everyone loves Seinfeld. You want to think it's funny, fly at it. But don't go off on people who can think independently and don't like it.

rgambs

northerndragon said:

rgambs said:

northerndragon said:

rgambs said:

northerndragon said:

You should just be offended by the fact that it's the most unfunny show ever. 

Are you saying that Two and a Half Men is funnier than Seinfeld?
Big Bang Theory?
Joanie Loves Chachi is funnier than Seinfeld??

Yes,  I have laughed at least once at each of those shows. Which is more than I have laughed at anything Seinfeld. Seinfeld sucks, always has always will.

Yeah, sure, the rest of the world is the crazy ones and you're right, Joanie Loves Chachi is funnier than Seinfeld lol 

Sorry you're all butthurt to find out not everyone loves Seinfeld. You want to think it's funny, fly at it. But don't go off on people who can think independently and don't like it.

I'm not butthurt, I'm very amused.
You present your opinions as facts, you don't give any objective criteria to back up those opinions, and you seem to be a classic hater that rags on everything that is universally loved.  

I'm not even a fan of Seinfeld, I think it's very overrated, but it's surely better and funnier than Joanie Loves Chachi lol

northerndragon

It's comedy, there is no objective criteria. It doesn't make me laugh, therefore it isn't funny. 

If that makes me a hater so be it. At least I'm a classic. Those never go out out of style.

F Me In The Brain

For every few people that like Seinfeld, there are people who like Duck Dynasty, Ghost Whisperer, Joanie Loves Chachi (well regarded as one of the worst shows in television history), and Northern Exposure.
It is all relative-- that is why there is variety.  If you don't like it, turn it off.