The Concept of God
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HughFreakingDillon said:rgambs said:A fun and interesting thing that I noticed a while back is that there is a strong suggestion of God in one of the dominant quantum theories, but you won't find any religious people jumping to talk about observation and wave function collapse lolMonkey Driven, Call this Living?0
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At the center of quantum theory several complicated concepts. One is that matter is based on point particles, but the particles, due to the uncertainty principle, cannot have their location and position known accurately. They can't be predicted to exist at all, in any position or trajectory and this complicated concept introduces probability into the system.
The probability of finding them (of us existing, for instance) is expressed as an equation known as a wave function. The craziness isn't over, because a measurement (observation) is necessary to collapse the wave and determine the final state of an object.
Taking that down the line, it ends up meaning one of several really odd ideas, the multiverse being one, and a possible God like entity which acts as a universal observer so that our universe isn't a chaos of simultaneous existence and non-existence.
Cool stuff.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
rgambs said:Or perhaps they resonate throughout a multiverse occupying the same space and time influencing each other in subtle and imperceptible ways.
As for our souls, I sense that we have souls the way I sense there really is a muse that drives our creativity. What the hell they are, whether or not they really do exist, how they can be explained, how they work- that's beyond me. And I don't care to quantify or prove or explain them. They are parts of that aspect of life that is mystery, something that I'm quite fond of. I have no need to understand those kinds of things scientifically, and certainly not metaphysically.
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
rgambs said:At the center of quantum theory several complicated concepts. One is that matter is based on point particles, but the particles, due to the uncertainty principle, cannot have their location and position known accurately. They can't be predicted to exist at all, in any position or trajectory and this complicated concept introduces probability into the system.
The probability of finding them (of us existing, for instance) is expressed as an equation known as a wave function. The craziness isn't over, because a measurement (observation) is necessary to collapse the wave and determine the final state of an object.
Taking that down the line, it ends up meaning one of several really odd ideas, the multiverse being one, and a possible God like entity which acts as a universal observer so that our universe isn't a chaos of simultaneous existence and non-existence.
Cool stuff.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:rgambs said:At the center of quantum theory several complicated concepts. One is that matter is based on point particles, but the particles, due to the uncertainty principle, cannot have their location and position known accurately. They can't be predicted to exist at all, in any position or trajectory and this complicated concept introduces probability into the system.
The probability of finding them (of us existing, for instance) is expressed as an equation known as a wave function. The craziness isn't over, because a measurement (observation) is necessary to collapse the wave and determine the final state of an object.
Taking that down the line, it ends up meaning one of several really odd ideas, the multiverse being one, and a possible God like entity which acts as a universal observer so that our universe isn't a chaos of simultaneous existence and non-existence.
Cool stuff.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
Unless observed, any given bit of matter is only a probability.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0
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Arthur C Clarke:
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Don't agree, but seems appropriate here. The concepts of quantum mechanics are dizzying and wild, it's certainly every bit as fantastic as the magical stories religion offers.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
rgambs said:Unless observed, any given bit of matter is only a probability.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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HughFreakingDillon said:rgambs said:Unless observed, any given bit of matter is only a probability.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0
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You think fast Hugh, I'm impressed!Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0
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rgambs said:You think fast Hugh, I'm impressed!Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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HughFreakingDillon said:rgambs said:You think fast Hugh, I'm impressed!Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0
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The only problem I have with the energy theory is that you may have to believe in reincarnation. Or at least a form of your energy possibly transforming into another human being. I don't know about that.will myself to find a home, a home within myself
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Degeneratefk said:The only problem I have with the energy theory is that you may have to believe in reincarnation. Or at least a form of your energy possibly transforming into another human being. I don't know about that.
I don't think that would be necessary, just remove linear time instead.
Or, if you looked at it from a multiverse perspective, you could think of that energy as being shared across all the different versions of you, and when you pass it moves into the others.
Like that Jet Li movie.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
The one where he beats a dude up with a motorcycle.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0
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rgambs said:Degeneratefk said:The only problem I have with the energy theory is that you may have to believe in reincarnation. Or at least a form of your energy possibly transforming into another human being. I don't know about that.
I don't think that would be necessary, just remove linear time instead.
Or, if you looked at it from a multiverse perspective, you could think of that energy as being shared across all the different versions of you, and when you pass it moves into the others.
Like that Jet Li movie.will myself to find a home, a home within myself
we will find a way, we will find our place0 -
Degeneratefk said:rgambs said:Degeneratefk said:The only problem I have with the energy theory is that you may have to believe in reincarnation. Or at least a form of your energy possibly transforming into another human being. I don't know about that.
I don't think that would be necessary, just remove linear time instead.
Or, if you looked at it from a multiverse perspective, you could think of that energy as being shared across all the different versions of you, and when you pass it moves into the others.
Like that Jet Li movie.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
The Multiverse is rad.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0
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rgambs said:The one where he beats a dude up with a motorcycle.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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HughFreakingDillon said:rgambs said:The one where he beats a dude up with a motorcycle.
I'm pretty sure at one point he picks up a motorcycle and beats someone down with it.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0
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