The AMT Marijuana Thread

Meltdown99

Hi! said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/06/17/asia/china-us-marijuana-smuggling-intl-hnk/index.html

The Cannabis that they are getting is harmless, unlike those opioids from China that find there way on to our streets...fuck China...

Meltdown99

How a weed conviction at 18 got a man banned at the U.S. border — 37 years later
https://globalnews.ca/news/5381096/marijuana-conviction-banned-crossing-us-border/?utm_medium=Facebook&utm_source=GlobalNational&fbclid=IwAR0nrpYB0zXz9tAIdYaxhtrE0c3ya7VljWLy2eVm37lOxWiZpKUnmqmUXNE

Ridiculous...all it takes is 1 customs officer to search a little deeper...

Hi!

Cartridges are taking over in my neck of the woods. I smoked on one a couple times in the last week and love it. Like wax or whatever, but easier to handle. I’ll be stocking up on some soon.

wndowpayne

Hi! said:

Cartridges are taking over in my neck of the woods. I smoked on one a couple times in the last week and love it. Like wax or whatever, but easier to handle. I’ll be stocking up on some soon.

The potency and lung expansion are pretty sweet..

Hi!

wndowpayne said:

Hi! said:

Cartridges are taking over in my neck of the woods. I smoked on one a couple times in the last week and love it. Like wax or whatever, but easier to handle. I’ll be stocking up on some soon.

The potency and lung expansion are pretty sweet..

A little dab will do ya😜

MayDay10

Our state legislature failed us in New York and we did not get Recreational passed this year.  It will likely be at least 2 years now.  I would bet 2021 will be the time based on political climate.  The reason we had a Democratic majority in both chambers is due to the anti-trump 2018 election.  I predict in New York, the backlash to Trump will be much more pronounced in 2020, thus increasing the D hold on New York's legislature.  With (hopefully) a D president too who will likely need to pay homage to Federal legalization, I expect that it will be more politically expedient to pass this (apparently it only stalled by 1 vote in the state senate).

We do have a bill currently for decriminalization which reduces possession to a small fine, and also 2 bills expanding our medical program to make it cheaper, more accessible, and increasing the options to include smokeable.  Hopefully those pass before the legislative session ends (today or tomorrow)

HesCalledDyer

http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/university-of-maryland-launches-nation-s-first-master-s-program-in-medical-marijuana

Hi!

HesCalledDyer said:

http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/university-of-maryland-launches-nation-s-first-master-s-program-in-medical-marijuana

I won’t be signing up for any college classes, but if they are looking for any guinea pigs..🙂

On a side note, congrats Illinois.

Jason P

San Francisco is banning e-cigs ... who would have thought that buying weed in a city would be 1000x easier then a product that helps to quit smoking ...

HesCalledDyer

Maryland is changing the tobacco & e-cig  law to 21 & over in October. I think the e-cig industry needs to shy away from the whole "product that helps to quit smoking" campaign because that's a big crock of shit. I've not met one person who vapes that has actually used it as a cessation device. It's just a replacement.  And I've known a bunch of non-smokers who started vaping because it was cool.

This could have been the first generation to really stick it to the tobacco industry, but no, everyone's out there sucking on their douche flutes instead.

wndowpayne

Id much rather see people " Stick it " to the alcohol industry.

lastexitlondon

wndowpayne said:

Id much rather see people " Stick it " to the alcohol industry.

Me too. Most addictive  poison. 

oftenreading

lastexitlondon said:

wndowpayne said:

Id much rather see people " Stick it " to the alcohol industry.

Me too. Most addictive  poison. 

Tobacco products rate pretty highly in terms of both “addictive” and “poison”. 

lastexitlondon

Yes i agree. Whole heartedly.  But i know  first hand about alcohol

PJ_Soul

HesCalledDyer said:

Maryland is changing the tobacco & e-cig  law to 21 & over in October. I think the e-cig industry needs to shy away from the whole "product that helps to quit smoking" campaign because that's a big crock of shit. I've not met one person who vapes that has actually used it as a cessation device. It's just a replacement.  And I've known a bunch of non-smokers who started vaping because it was cool.

This could have been the first generation to really stick it to the tobacco industry, but no, everyone's out there sucking on their douche flutes instead.

I quit a 30 year smoking addiction with e-cigs, and my best friend did too. That is what they mean when they say that. It helps people quit smoking cigarettes, which is a good thing. Replacing a carcinogenic habit with a non-carcinogenic one is definitely a positive. TONS of smokers quit by using e-cigs, so I don't understand why you think that's a crock of shit.

Anyway, prohibition is fucking stupid.

HesCalledDyer

PJ_Soul said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Maryland is changing the tobacco & e-cig  law to 21 & over in October. I think the e-cig industry needs to shy away from the whole "product that helps to quit smoking" campaign because that's a big crock of shit. I've not met one person who vapes that has actually used it as a cessation device. It's just a replacement.  And I've known a bunch of non-smokers who started vaping because it was cool.

This could have been the first generation to really stick it to the tobacco industry, but no, everyone's out there sucking on their douche flutes instead.

I quit a 30 year smoking addiction with e-cigs, and my best friend did too. That is what they mean when they say that. It helps people quit smoking cigarettes, which is a good thing. Replacing a carcinogenic habit with a non-carcinogenic one is definitely a positive. TONS of smokers quit by using e-cigs, so I don't understand why you think that's a crock of shit.

Anyway, prohibition is fucking stupid.

Do you still use e-cigs or did you also quit them after you were off cigarettes?  If you did both, congrats, you're the first person I know who has.  That's why I think the marketing around it is a crock of shit.  Didn't mention prohibition.

PJ_Soul

HesCalledDyer said:

PJ_Soul said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Maryland is changing the tobacco & e-cig  law to 21 & over in October. I think the e-cig industry needs to shy away from the whole "product that helps to quit smoking" campaign because that's a big crock of shit. I've not met one person who vapes that has actually used it as a cessation device. It's just a replacement.  And I've known a bunch of non-smokers who started vaping because it was cool.

This could have been the first generation to really stick it to the tobacco industry, but no, everyone's out there sucking on their douche flutes instead.

I quit a 30 year smoking addiction with e-cigs, and my best friend did too. That is what they mean when they say that. It helps people quit smoking cigarettes, which is a good thing. Replacing a carcinogenic habit with a non-carcinogenic one is definitely a positive. TONS of smokers quit by using e-cigs, so I don't understand why you think that's a crock of shit.

Anyway, prohibition is fucking stupid.

Do you still use e-cigs or did you also quit them after you were off cigarettes?  If you did both, congrats, you're the first person I know who has.  That's why I think the marketing around it is a crock of shit.  Didn't mention prohibition.

I just quit smoking in October. So I'm still using an e-cig... but I have no intention of quitting because I like it. I also liked smoking. I had no intention of quitting that until I realized e-cigs were a good replacement for me. I am an indulgent kind of person who enjoys her booze, weed, and inhalants, lol. But e-cigs are not anywhere near as bad as smoking is - not even remotely close, no matter what those hysterical headlines say - so it's not like it's an even trade-off the way you seem to be thinking it is. Dropping tobacco is a HUGE deal with positive health results. Replacing them with e-cigs is a good thing. But FWIW, yes, I know people who have moved off the e-cigs too, after they used them to quit smoking. But that said, keep in mind that the e-cig industry has NEVER claimed that people who use them as smoking cessation aids should only be using them temporarily. Of course not - they want people to keep using the product. I don't think they've misrepresented themselves at all on that one.

Meltdown99

I only smoke Cannabis.  No way we no if vaping causes long term health problems...in 20 years we will know...the early users are guinea pigs.  As for Cannabis, it has been around long enough, so I think they have some idea if it causes long term health effects...I'll take my chances with Cannabis.

Jason P

HesCalledDyer said:

Maryland is changing the tobacco & e-cig  law to 21 & over in October. I think the e-cig industry needs to shy away from the whole "product that helps to quit smoking" campaign because that's a big crock of shit. I've not met one person who vapes that has actually used it as a cessation device. It's just a replacement.  And I've known a bunch of non-smokers who started vaping because it was cool.

This could have been the first generation to really stick it to the tobacco industry, but no, everyone's out there sucking on their douche flutes instead.

I usually had 5-6 smokes a day but started using the Juul and haven't had a smoke in 9 months.  I've convinced three of my friends that smoked a lot more than me to try it and they have stopped smoking as well.  As PJSoul noted, there is a night and day difference in terms of of health impact.

As far as the downside of Juul, it is nicotine which is addictive, but primarily uses glycol which is used in over 16,000 pharma product so if the Juul is really bad then everyone in this country is fucked.  If you try to Google the downsides, you will see a few negative article that is parroted by 200 other "media" sites.

After smoking some of the "main thread topic", I notice the same downsides of smoking the next day.  Flem, cough, etc.  Not with the Juul.  So if it is down to weed, cigs, or a Juul my experience is the Juul is has the least health downside.

hedonist

Meltdown99 said:

I only smoke Cannabis.  No way we no if vaping causes long term health problems...in 20 years we will know...the early users are guinea pigs.  As for Cannabis, it has been around long enough, so I think they have some idea if it causes long term health effects...I'll take my chances with Cannabis.

I do both, but vaping is wonderful for discretion.

Anyway, the below is from Weedmaps.  I trust them and other related sources, but as with most everything, I'm sure there are naysayers.

"The leading benefit for vaping weed is that it’s a healthier alternative to smoking flower, as vapor doesn’t release the tar and carcinogens created during combustion (the process of burning flower). Instead, vaporization entails a slightly more complex process that creates a phase transition from liquid to vapor."