The AMT Marijuana Thread

PJ_Soul

I agree that weed doesn't necessarily help for pain. I've tried that too, and it actually made my pain worse. Like, it still hurt as much, and now the pain is tripping me out too. Not cool, lol.
I also use it for chronic insomnia and anxiety. It definitely helps. I won't speak to what else you think it might have helped with... I've definitely never heard about it eliminating the need for diabetes meds or high cholesterol (FWIW, what's pretty much a literal cure for most cases of type 2 diabetes is switching to and staying on a low-carb diet (20g net carbs/day. But I'm sure you know that already!). Perhaps the cholesterol thing is a result of a diet change that resulted from using weed? And perhaps the blood pressure thing was helped by a reduction in anxiety and/or the same thing that was making the cholesterol lower.
Yes, more clinical trials need to be done when it come to medical use.
Me, I never had a real script - I just fell through the cracks in an unregulated system and got a medical card without a prescription, even though they said they required one. But I had planned on getting one - they just handed me a card before I got around to it, lol.

Meltdown99

PJ_Soul said:

I agree that weed doesn't necessarily help for pain. I've tried that too, and it actually made my pain worse. Like, it still hurt as much, and now the pain is tripping me out too. Not cool, lol.
I also use it for chronic insomnia and anxiety. It definitely helps. I won't speak to what else you think it might have helped with... I've definitely never heard about it eliminating the need for diabetes meds or high cholesterol (FWIW, what's pretty much a literal cure for most cases of type 2 diabetes is switching to and staying on a low-carb diet (20g net carbs/day. But I'm sure you know that already!). Perhaps the cholesterol thing is a result of a diet change that resulted from using weed? And perhaps the blood pressure thing was helped by a reduction in anxiety and/or the same thing that was making the cholesterol lower.
Yes, more clinical trials need to be done when it come to medical use.
Me, I never had a real script - I just fell through the cracks in an unregulated system and got a medical card without a prescription, even though they said they required one. But I had planned on getting one - they just handed me a card before I got around to it, lol.

I'm not saying it was the sole reason for me being able to drop those meds ... but cannabis has played a significant role that allowed me to make the necessary lifestyle changes.  As you obviously know it can helped with sleep ... in my case it really helps, when I would suffer through sleepless nights (a lot of them), I went straight for the fridge and gained significant weight which lead to those high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and type 2 ... by me now being able sleep at night keeps me away from the fridge and I've lost significant weight...also I should mention, the stuff I buy rarely gives me the munchies.  So to me it all started by using it for sleep, so once I got my sleep in order it was easier to make those lifestyle changes.  I try to avoid carbs when possible.  So you have not found a strain that works for pain?  I know people who claim it helps them with pain...

I believe  Harper improved the medicinal licensing process ... at one time you had to submit the forms to health canada for approval, he removed health canada from the process and now its just between you and your doctor...once the script is fax to medical marijuana company you choose, you are usually able to order within 24 hours, now shoppers drug mart has applied to health canada to get into the game.  Now if you wanna grow for medical purposes you still need health Canada's approval, and I believe growing with health Canada's permission you can grow a lot more...there are even clinics that fill out the necessary forms and submit them to health Canada.

Believe me this should be a proud moment for Canada.  We have a real chance to become world leaders in everything Cannabis...

Sooner or later more countries are going to legalize it and this could give our companies a opportunity at some major expansion.

I buy from a great local company.  They are constantly expanding, these expansions are in the millions...just incredible the growth.  I just hope these companies stay in Canadian hands.  I just wish I had a few bucks to spare to buy some stocks in some of these companies...

Good for Trudeau to follow through.  Just to bad Ontario is fucking it up.  I understand the Fords have experience in that line of work...so maybe he'll change it.  Actually I think I heard on the radio that Doug Ford is considering selling Cannabis in the LCBO store (ontario liquor store), I'd have no problem with that.  The stores are already built and well staffed and they are selling a much worse substance...however my preferred solution would have been allowing entrepreneurs the opportunity to make a little green...

It's nice to know that no more young people will end up in the system from using cannabis...

I really hope the medical research takes off.  

Meltdown99

I do want to clarify this ... I realize cannabis may not work for everyone and may not be for everyone.  But there are far too many people who claim they get benefits from it.  

brianlux

Meltdown99 said:

I do want to clarify this ... I realize cannabis may not work for everyone and may not be for everyone.  But there are far too many people who claim they get benefits from it.  

I can vouch for that.

Meltdown99

What would happen if every US state legalized it?  Could this force the federal governments hands to finally legalize it federally?

brianlux

Meltdown99 said:

What would happen if every US state legalized it?  Could this force the federal governments hands to finally legalize it federally?

I would think it would have to but I also doubt every state will legalize it.  But maybe someday.

Meltdown99

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

What would happen if every US state legalized it?  Could this force the federal governments hands to finally legalize it federally?

I would think it would have to but I also doubt every state will legalize it.  But maybe someday.

I agree not every state will legalize it ... 

brianlux

Meltdown99 said:

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

What would happen if every US state legalized it?  Could this force the federal governments hands to finally legalize it federally?

I would think it would have to but I also doubt every state will legalize it.  But maybe someday.

I agree not every state will legalize it ... 

Their loss! 

I do think that if enough states legalized pot it could become legal nationwide.  Isn't that what happened in Canada?  It will be legal all over Canada in October, correct?

oftenreading

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

What would happen if every US state legalized it?  Could this force the federal governments hands to finally legalize it federally?

I would think it would have to but I also doubt every state will legalize it.  But maybe someday.

I agree not every state will legalize it ... 

Their loss! 

I do think that if enough states legalized pot it could become legal nationwide.  Isn't that what happened in Canada?  It will be legal all over Canada in October, correct?

Yes, it will be legal all over Canada come mid October, but no, that’s not how it happened. As of right now medicinal marijuana is legal federally but nothing else is legal. Enforcement  is uneven and generally not pursued except some jurisdictions that are more conservative than others. 
 

brianlux

oftenreading said:

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

What would happen if every US state legalized it?  Could this force the federal governments hands to finally legalize it federally?

I would think it would have to but I also doubt every state will legalize it.  But maybe someday.

I agree not every state will legalize it ... 

Their loss! 

I do think that if enough states legalized pot it could become legal nationwide.  Isn't that what happened in Canada?  It will be legal all over Canada in October, correct?

Yes, it will be legal all over Canada come mid October, but no, that’s not how it happened. As of right now medicinal marijuana is legal federally but nothing else is legal. Enforcement  is uneven and generally not pursued except some jurisdictions that are more conservative than others. 
 

In that case, I would definitely get a medical card if I lived up north in beautiful Canada.

Meltdown99

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

What would happen if every US state legalized it?  Could this force the federal governments hands to finally legalize it federally?

I would think it would have to but I also doubt every state will legalize it.  But maybe someday.

I agree not every state will legalize it ... 

Their loss! 

I do think that if enough states legalized pot it could become legal nationwide.  Isn't that what happened in Canada?  It will be legal all over Canada in October, correct?

I am a medicinal user ... so I am completely legal.  Even after legalization I will keep my script.  I am a legit medicinal user.  And I encourage everyone to get a script if they can.  

Meltdown99

I am having a very stressful time today and am smoking some ... and it sure helps settle the the anxiety.

brianlux

Meltdown99 said:

I am having a very stressful time today and am smoking some ... and it sure helps settle the the anxiety.

Sorry to hear about the stress.  Not fun.  Glad you're getting some relief!

Meltdown99

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

I am having a very stressful time today and am smoking some ... and it sure helps settle the the anxiety.

Sorry to hear about the stress.  Not fun.  Glad you're getting some relief!

Thanks Brian.  Sometimes when I lash out its due to anxiety...but weed really settles me.

brianlux

Meltdown99 said:

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

I am having a very stressful time today and am smoking some ... and it sure helps settle the the anxiety.

Sorry to hear about the stress.  Not fun.  Glad you're getting some relief!

Thanks Brian.  Sometimes when I lash out its due to anxiety...but weed really settles me.

No worries, man.  It's all good.

Meltdown99

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

I am having a very stressful time today and am smoking some ... and it sure helps settle the the anxiety.

Sorry to hear about the stress.  Not fun.  Glad you're getting some relief!

Thanks Brian.  Sometimes when I lash out its due to anxiety...but weed really settles me.

No worries, man.  It's all good.

Thanks Brian.

oftenreading

Brian, here's some further information about how the process has been working in Victoria at least, during the period pre-legalization but after police ceased enforcement except for those behaving in a way that seemed against the public interest. 

http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/victoria-cannabis-landscape-set-to-shift-as-pot-rush-ends-1.23345081

brianlux

oftenreading said:

Brian, here's some further information about how the process has been working in Victoria at least, during the period pre-legalization but after police ceased enforcement except for those behaving in a way that seemed against the public interest. 

http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/victoria-cannabis-landscape-set-to-shift-as-pot-rush-ends-1.23345081

An interesting article, thanks.  I'm told that here in California (and probably elsewhere) the zoning laws and other regulations are problematic for growers who were in operation before legalization (even before recreational use was legalized).  There's something to be said about that kind of pioneer spirit home enterprise.  And a lot of them enjoyed a lucrative tax-free occupation. 

But the flip side was that many of these growing operations were being secured by dangerous means including armed guards.  I knew a man who worked for the forest service and his job could be scary and dangerous at times because he never knew when he might stumble on an illegal grow.  Despite all the regulations, it's a much safer environment when made legal!

PJ_Soul

Meltdown99 said:

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

What would happen if every US state legalized it?  Could this force the federal governments hands to finally legalize it federally?

I would think it would have to but I also doubt every state will legalize it.  But maybe someday.

I agree not every state will legalize it ... 

It will be legalized federally before every state does that.
I think the US will definitely legalize eventually, as more and more other countries do so, and while more and more states go for it. Canada and Uruguay are just the first two nations - I think now that Canada's done it, the domino effect is likely to take hold over the next several years. Probably Britain will be next, but we'll see.

Meltdown99

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

What would happen if every US state legalized it?  Could this force the federal governments hands to finally legalize it federally?

I would think it would have to but I also doubt every state will legalize it.  But maybe someday.

I agree not every state will legalize it ... 

It will be legalized federally before every state does that.
I think the US will definitely legalize eventually, as more and more other countries do so, and while more and more states go for it. Canada and Uruguay are just the first two nations - I think now that Canada's done it, the domino effect is likely to take hold over the next several years. Probably Britain will be next, but we'll see.

If Obama did not push for legalization I predict it will never be approved federally in the US ... Big Pharma, The alcohol industry and now I've read that these rehab clinics now spend money to lobby the government to keep weed illegal. Fuck the politicians I don't need their permission to medicate myself with something far safer than shit coming from big Pharma.