Donald Trump

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bootlegger10 said:

rgambs said:

You know, our country can, and likely will, recover from his policy decisions which I wholeheartedly disagree with, but can we ever truly recover from having such a tabloid spectacle as our leader? 
No, we can't.

The office has permanently been diminished, if our next 10 Presidents are brilliant world changers who bring lasting world peace and harmony...we will still have to remember that to the highest  office in the world, we elected a true caricature of a person larger than life in every possible negative way.

I'm more worried about Congress in the long run than the president.  Congress can always impeach a President if he is an idiot. Right now we have a Congress that puts party over country every time. 

The only quality of Trump's I would like the next president to have is to speak more bluntly (but with more grace than our current idiot).   Also, perhaps be more decisive too on world matters since we send so much money to other countries.

With North Korea, I think the President should just tweet:  "North Korea....If you attack any of our allies with whether nuclear or not, we will obliterate you.  If you try to nuke the US, we will shoot down your missile and, again, obliterate you.  If you transfer a nuke to another country.  Again, total obliteration."     

We can then remove our troops from South Korea.   WE don't have to have talks with China and Russia.  We can just leave North Korea be.  That's how it should be.  If they would have threatened a missile attack instead of sanctions, we may have had a chance before they got their nukes. 

I’m glad you’re not involved in setting US foreign policy. 

mrussel1

bootlegger10 said:

rgambs said:

You know, our country can, and likely will, recover from his policy decisions which I wholeheartedly disagree with, but can we ever truly recover from having such a tabloid spectacle as our leader? 
No, we can't.

The office has permanently been diminished, if our next 10 Presidents are brilliant world changers who bring lasting world peace and harmony...we will still have to remember that to the highest  office in the world, we elected a true caricature of a person larger than life in every possible negative way.

I'm more worried about Congress in the long run than the president.  Congress can always impeach a President if he is an idiot. Right now we have a Congress that puts party over country every time. 

The only quality of Trump's I would like the next president to have is to speak more bluntly (but with more grace than our current idiot).   Also, perhaps be more decisive too on world matters since we send so much money to other countries.

With North Korea, I think the President should just tweet:  "North Korea....If you attack any of our allies with whether nuclear or not, we will obliterate you.  If you try to nuke the US, we will shoot down your missile and, again, obliterate you.  If you transfer a nuke to another country.  Again, total obliteration."     

We can then remove our troops from South Korea.   WE don't have to have talks with China and Russia.  We can just leave North Korea be.  That's how it should be.  If they would have threatened a missile attack instead of sanctions, we may have had a chance before they got their nukes. 

Is this position re: Korean Peninsula a real argument or tongue in cheek? Pretty sure Kim Jung understands the M.A.D situation.  Your suggested tweets don't advance a policy one iota. 

bootlegger10

mrussel1 said:

bootlegger10 said:

rgambs said:

You know, our country can, and likely will, recover from his policy decisions which I wholeheartedly disagree with, but can we ever truly recover from having such a tabloid spectacle as our leader? 
No, we can't.

The office has permanently been diminished, if our next 10 Presidents are brilliant world changers who bring lasting world peace and harmony...we will still have to remember that to the highest  office in the world, we elected a true caricature of a person larger than life in every possible negative way.

I'm more worried about Congress in the long run than the president.  Congress can always impeach a President if he is an idiot. Right now we have a Congress that puts party over country every time. 

The only quality of Trump's I would like the next president to have is to speak more bluntly (but with more grace than our current idiot).   Also, perhaps be more decisive too on world matters since we send so much money to other countries.

With North Korea, I think the President should just tweet:  "North Korea....If you attack any of our allies with whether nuclear or not, we will obliterate you.  If you try to nuke the US, we will shoot down your missile and, again, obliterate you.  If you transfer a nuke to another country.  Again, total obliteration."     

We can then remove our troops from South Korea.   WE don't have to have talks with China and Russia.  We can just leave North Korea be.  That's how it should be.  If they would have threatened a missile attack instead of sanctions, we may have had a chance before they got their nukes. 

Is this position re: Korean Peninsula a real argument or tongue in cheek? Pretty sure Kim Jung understands the M.A.D situation.  Your suggested tweets don't advance a policy one iota. 

It is a policy.  We don't need troops in South Korea.  Let's just tell NK that if you attack South Korea, it will be the last time you attack South Korea.  US put notice on North Korea.  I'm saying let's move on completely from North Korea.  It isn't an agenda item anymore other than to be prepared to shoot down a missile. 

bootlegger10

Go Beavers said:

bootlegger10 said:

rgambs said:

You know, our country can, and likely will, recover from his policy decisions which I wholeheartedly disagree with, but can we ever truly recover from having such a tabloid spectacle as our leader? 
No, we can't.

The office has permanently been diminished, if our next 10 Presidents are brilliant world changers who bring lasting world peace and harmony...we will still have to remember that to the highest  office in the world, we elected a true caricature of a person larger than life in every possible negative way.

I'm more worried about Congress in the long run than the president.  Congress can always impeach a President if he is an idiot. Right now we have a Congress that puts party over country every time. 

The only quality of Trump's I would like the next president to have is to speak more bluntly (but with more grace than our current idiot).   Also, perhaps be more decisive too on world matters since we send so much money to other countries.

With North Korea, I think the President should just tweet:  "North Korea....If you attack any of our allies with whether nuclear or not, we will obliterate you.  If you try to nuke the US, we will shoot down your missile and, again, obliterate you.  If you transfer a nuke to another country.  Again, total obliteration."     

We can then remove our troops from South Korea.   WE don't have to have talks with China and Russia.  We can just leave North Korea be.  That's how it should be.  If they would have threatened a missile attack instead of sanctions, we may have had a chance before they got their nukes. 

I’m glad you’re not involved in setting US foreign policy. 

Because North Korea policy has been great so far?  Basically, I'm just saying let's stay out of their business until they make it our business.  It is the same position you would have wanted to take with Iraq in 2002.  I just say it in a blunt way to make sure there are no misunderstandings. 

mrussel1

bootlegger10 said:

mrussel1 said:

bootlegger10 said:

rgambs said:

You know, our country can, and likely will, recover from his policy decisions which I wholeheartedly disagree with, but can we ever truly recover from having such a tabloid spectacle as our leader? 
No, we can't.

The office has permanently been diminished, if our next 10 Presidents are brilliant world changers who bring lasting world peace and harmony...we will still have to remember that to the highest  office in the world, we elected a true caricature of a person larger than life in every possible negative way.

I'm more worried about Congress in the long run than the president.  Congress can always impeach a President if he is an idiot. Right now we have a Congress that puts party over country every time. 

The only quality of Trump's I would like the next president to have is to speak more bluntly (but with more grace than our current idiot).   Also, perhaps be more decisive too on world matters since we send so much money to other countries.

With North Korea, I think the President should just tweet:  "North Korea....If you attack any of our allies with whether nuclear or not, we will obliterate you.  If you try to nuke the US, we will shoot down your missile and, again, obliterate you.  If you transfer a nuke to another country.  Again, total obliteration."     

We can then remove our troops from South Korea.   WE don't have to have talks with China and Russia.  We can just leave North Korea be.  That's how it should be.  If they would have threatened a missile attack instead of sanctions, we may have had a chance before they got their nukes. 

Is this position re: Korean Peninsula a real argument or tongue in cheek? Pretty sure Kim Jung understands the M.A.D situation.  Your suggested tweets don't advance a policy one iota. 

It is a policy.  We don't need troops in South Korea.  Let's just tell NK that if you attack South Korea, it will be the last time you attack South Korea.  US put notice on North Korea.  I'm saying let's move on completely from North Korea.  It isn't an agenda item anymore other than to be prepared to shoot down a missile. 

ok let's play that out.  we remove ground forces.  If they attack without a nuke,  then we'll nuke them.  But before our missiles hit pyong, they will be able to launch a strike against Japan and s. Korea, hitting 170 mm people.  

all your strategy did was ensure our troops  weren't hit

bootlegger10

mrussel1 said:

bootlegger10 said:

mrussel1 said:

bootlegger10 said:

rgambs said:

You know, our country can, and likely will, recover from his policy decisions which I wholeheartedly disagree with, but can we ever truly recover from having such a tabloid spectacle as our leader? 
No, we can't.

The office has permanently been diminished, if our next 10 Presidents are brilliant world changers who bring lasting world peace and harmony...we will still have to remember that to the highest  office in the world, we elected a true caricature of a person larger than life in every possible negative way.

I'm more worried about Congress in the long run than the president.  Congress can always impeach a President if he is an idiot. Right now we have a Congress that puts party over country every time. 

The only quality of Trump's I would like the next president to have is to speak more bluntly (but with more grace than our current idiot).   Also, perhaps be more decisive too on world matters since we send so much money to other countries.

With North Korea, I think the President should just tweet:  "North Korea....If you attack any of our allies with whether nuclear or not, we will obliterate you.  If you try to nuke the US, we will shoot down your missile and, again, obliterate you.  If you transfer a nuke to another country.  Again, total obliteration."     

We can then remove our troops from South Korea.   WE don't have to have talks with China and Russia.  We can just leave North Korea be.  That's how it should be.  If they would have threatened a missile attack instead of sanctions, we may have had a chance before they got their nukes. 

Is this position re: Korean Peninsula a real argument or tongue in cheek? Pretty sure Kim Jung understands the M.A.D situation.  Your suggested tweets don't advance a policy one iota. 

It is a policy.  We don't need troops in South Korea.  Let's just tell NK that if you attack South Korea, it will be the last time you attack South Korea.  US put notice on North Korea.  I'm saying let's move on completely from North Korea.  It isn't an agenda item anymore other than to be prepared to shoot down a missile. 

ok let's play that out.  we remove ground forces.  If they attack without a nuke,  then we'll nuke them.  But before our missiles hit pyong, they will be able to launch a strike against Japan and s. Korea, hitting 170 mm people.  

all your strategy did was ensure our troops  weren't hit

So you are advocating for US world police now? 

Can we stop those missiles now?  I'm not sure.

Not sure we would have to nuke NK at that point.  Just take out their leadership and nuclear facilities.

mrussel1

bootlegger10 said:

mrussel1 said:

bootlegger10 said:

mrussel1 said:

bootlegger10 said:

rgambs said:

You know, our country can, and likely will, recover from his policy decisions which I wholeheartedly disagree with, but can we ever truly recover from having such a tabloid spectacle as our leader? 
No, we can't.

The office has permanently been diminished, if our next 10 Presidents are brilliant world changers who bring lasting world peace and harmony...we will still have to remember that to the highest  office in the world, we elected a true caricature of a person larger than life in every possible negative way.

I'm more worried about Congress in the long run than the president.  Congress can always impeach a President if he is an idiot. Right now we have a Congress that puts party over country every time. 

The only quality of Trump's I would like the next president to have is to speak more bluntly (but with more grace than our current idiot).   Also, perhaps be more decisive too on world matters since we send so much money to other countries.

With North Korea, I think the President should just tweet:  "North Korea....If you attack any of our allies with whether nuclear or not, we will obliterate you.  If you try to nuke the US, we will shoot down your missile and, again, obliterate you.  If you transfer a nuke to another country.  Again, total obliteration."     

We can then remove our troops from South Korea.   WE don't have to have talks with China and Russia.  We can just leave North Korea be.  That's how it should be.  If they would have threatened a missile attack instead of sanctions, we may have had a chance before they got their nukes. 

Is this position re: Korean Peninsula a real argument or tongue in cheek? Pretty sure Kim Jung understands the M.A.D situation.  Your suggested tweets don't advance a policy one iota. 

It is a policy.  We don't need troops in South Korea.  Let's just tell NK that if you attack South Korea, it will be the last time you attack South Korea.  US put notice on North Korea.  I'm saying let's move on completely from North Korea.  It isn't an agenda item anymore other than to be prepared to shoot down a missile. 

ok let's play that out.  we remove ground forces.  If they attack without a nuke,  then we'll nuke them.  But before our missiles hit pyong, they will be able to launch a strike against Japan and s. Korea, hitting 170 mm people.  

all your strategy did was ensure our troops  weren't hit

So you are advocating for US world police now? 

Can we stop those missiles now?  I'm not sure.

Not sure we would have to nuke NK at that point.  Just take out their leadership and nuclear facilities.

Any strike against NK will precipitate an esc alation. It's not like Kim Jong Un and his cronies will be sitting in a palace when this happens.  They have very secure bunkers.   Regarding your comment about the world police, I'm not really sure what that means.  We made a commitment to the South when the DMZ was established over 60 years ago.  No offense, but your strategy doesn't make any sense.  If the North decided to invade the South, we would have no means of fighting back conventionally without launching a major strike....leading to the counter strike of much higher proportions.  

There's not good answer in NK without the help of the Chinese, but recalling troops is the last thing to do...followed closely by announcing our strategy via Twitter.  

bootlegger10

World police = keeping troops around the world ready to strike when non-US territories are attacked.  Sounds like you liberals are for it after all based on comments about being nearby to protect SK, Japan, etc....

g under p

dignin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

stormy's friend has come forward saying that trump and stormy had a sexual relationship while melania was home pregnant with baron. another person with knowledge of the affair has come forward too. stormy has a non-disclosure agreement. the friends have not been paid and have no such agreement.

Those of us living in reality and not some alternate universe know this is true. Do you think Melania has thrown anything yet? How Melania and Ivanka continue to stand by him is beyond me.

Those bills better be $100 bills any other won' nearly be enough.

Peace

mrussel1

bootlegger10 said:

World police = keeping troops around the world ready to strike when non-US territories are attacked.  Sounds like you liberals are for it after all based on comments about being nearby to protect SK, Japan, etc....

So why make the case to attack NK if they invade the South? Why should we (you) care?  Why not just withdraw and let SK and Japan fend for themselves? Your arguments are inconsistent. 

bootlegger10

mrussel1 said:

bootlegger10 said:

World police = keeping troops around the world ready to strike when non-US territories are attacked.  Sounds like you liberals are for it after all based on comments about being nearby to protect SK, Japan, etc....

So why make the case to attack NK if they invade the South? Why should we (you) care?  Why not just withdraw and let SK and Japan fend for themselves? Your arguments are inconsistent. 

No, usually the liberals are the ones who don't want to be world police, so I'm just surprised by the sudden military support.  I'm just saying our tactics for it should be simpler.  We built an arsenal that should be the biggest deterrent out there to prevent NK from attacking.  We'll just have to back up our tough talk if they do something. 

Smellyman

North Korea won't attack anybody.  It is simply how Kim Jong-un stays in power and how dictators around the globe stay in power.

Even he knows the moment attacks he is dead.

This sabre rattling is amuses me.  What doesn't amuse me is the Orange in power who may do something stupid.

unsung

Kat said:

unsung said:

What did he say that was not true?  

So Haiti isn't a shithole?

That's right, it isn't. Now that you know that, you won't need to be spreading that ignorance and hate here. It's not welcome.

Please share your vacation pics the next time you visit.

unsung

In the lovely vacation hotspot Venezuela...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5262257/Starving-mob-beat-cattle-death-rocks-Venezuela.html

Halifax2TheMax

unsung said:

In the lovely vacation hotspot Venezuela...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5262257/Starving-mob-beat-cattle-death-rocks-Venezuela.html

Depravity turns you on? Do you watch snuff films too? Feeling smug in your bitcoin wealth? Or is it your luck and white privilege? Don’t be scared.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

unsung said:

In the lovely vacation hotspot Venezuela...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5262257/Starving-mob-beat-cattle-death-rocks-Venezuela.html

I watched this. Tough to do. An awful moment for the animal, but the steaks and burgers I eat have their roots in an awful moment for some animal.

People weren't killing the animal for shits and giggles though like the long list of affluent trophy hunters we've seen throughout various social media sites. Does killing a cow with stones and your bare hands make you less barbaric than some rich prick shooting a lion with a high powered rifle so he can take a selfie, mount a head on his wall and have cocktail parties where he can tell his shit friends the story of his brave encounter?

Smellyman

In a libertarian Utopia I should be able to kill an animal any way I see fit. 

brianlux

This is cool.  New York's Rough Draft Bar & Books put this display together:

josevolution

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

unsung said:

In the lovely vacation hotspot Venezuela...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5262257/Starving-mob-beat-cattle-death-rocks-Venezuela.html

I watched this. Tough to do. An awful moment for the animal, but the steaks and burgers I eat have their roots in an awful moment for some animal.

People weren't killing the animal for shits and giggles though like the long list of affluent trophy hunters we've seen throughout various social media sites. Does killing a cow with stones and your bare hands make you less barbaric than some rich prick shooting a lion with a high powered rifle so he can take a selfie, mount a head on his wall and have cocktail parties where he can tell his shit friends the story of his brave encounter?

Spot on !

Halifax2TheMax

brianlux said:

This is cool.  New York's Rough Draft Bar & Books put this display together:

Don’t be going all intellectual on us Bri. Not cool!