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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    He SHOULD be called much worse. 
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    ^^^

    Like I said, imagine if a person who was not black said that same bit using the n word?  There would be hell to pay.

    President Trump should not be called a cracker on SNL.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_(pejorative)

    Reading through the etymology of the term, I would have zero problem with this term being used to describe Trump. It seems like an apt definition of him.

    I’d also never begin to equate a word with origins like cracker with a word with origins like the n-word. 

    Finally, PJFan, you seem to be very concerned when Trump or his actions are criticized - yet you take the time to regularly remind liberals how they shouldn’t be so insulted so easily. Which is the right way to be, oh hypocritical Propagandist-in-Chief Jr?
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  • benjs said:
    ^^^

    Like I said, imagine if a person who was not black said that same bit using the n word?  There would be hell to pay.

    President Trump should not be called a cracker on SNL.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_(pejorative)

    Reading through the etymology of the term, I would have zero problem with this term being used to describe Trump. It seems like an apt definition of him.

    I’d also never begin to equate a word with origins like cracker with a word with origins like the n-word. 

    Finally, PJFan, you seem to be very concerned when Trump or his actions are criticized - yet you take the time to regularly remind liberals how they shouldn’t be so insulted so easily. Which is the right way to be, oh hypocritical Propagandist-in-Chief Jr?

    Cracker is still nuanced with racist origins.  I don't get concerned when the actions of President Trump are criticized I just feel that as a propagandist I have to see both sides.  Why do people that are not white call white people crackers?
  • benjs said:
    ^^^

    Like I said, imagine if a person who was not black said that same bit using the n word?  There would be hell to pay.

    President Trump should not be called a cracker on SNL.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_(pejorative)

    Reading through the etymology of the term, I would have zero problem with this term being used to describe Trump. It seems like an apt definition of him.

    I’d also never begin to equate a word with origins like cracker with a word with origins like the n-word. 

    Finally, PJFan, you seem to be very concerned when Trump or his actions are criticized - yet you take the time to regularly remind liberals how they shouldn’t be so insulted so easily. Which is the right way to be, oh hypocritical Propagandist-in-Chief Jr?

    Cracker is still nuanced with racist origins.  I don't get concerned when the actions of President Trump are criticized I just feel that as a propagandist I have to see both sides.  Why do people that are not white call white people crackers?
    But he is a cracker's cracker, yes?
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  • ^^^
    Sure thing my brother from another mother.

  • brianlux
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    Can anyone explain why exactly I should be offended if someone calls me a cracker. I don't get mad because it's offensive, I get mad because I deserve to be called so much worse. There's a whole world of language out there, surely there's something funnier and more hurtful than cracker. 
    I've never heard the term "cracker" as a slight on whites before today.  I'm a big bread and cracker fan myself (in fact, all my little goofy books are printed under the moniker "A Ryebread Production") so if anyone calls be a "cracker", I'm good with that.

    And if someone says to me, "Buddy, you're crackers", well,  duh!!
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  • rgambs
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    Cracker is surely racist, it's an epithet for a particular race, but it doesn't offend me in the least.
    I also don't think that it's use is always meant to be offensive.
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  • ^^^
    Sure thing my brother from another mother.

    I guess you won't be frequenting the Cracker Barrel for meals?
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    I always thought that "cracker" was funny. I guess if I knew it's origins and history, maybe I could view it otherwise. But I doubt it. Not a whole lot of "oppressed white people at the hands of non-white people" stories in the history books. 
  • brianlux
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    Meanwhile didn't know this about Donald "Keebler" Trump until today:

    "The Trump administration has indeed cut the budget for publicizing 2018 Obamacare open enrollment by more than 90 percent, and did indeed cut the open enrollment period in half – from three months in 2017 to six weeks in 2018."

    More here:

    http://www.snopes.com/trump-obamacare-advertising-enrollment/






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  • ^^^
    Sure thing my brother from another mother.

    I guess you won't be frequenting the Cracker Barrel for meals?

    You are correct Sir.
    Too bad though, the one meal I had there was great.
  • This speech isn't too bad from his latest tweet (President Trump)


  • Can anyone explain why exactly I should be offended if someone calls me a cracker. I don't get mad because it's offensive, I get mad because I deserve to be called so much worse. There's a whole world of language out there, surely there's something funnier and more hurtful than cracker. 
    I like this post so true. Cracker is laughable. I love crackers especially with cheese on.can't leave em alone. Do you have jacobs crackers in the usa?


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  • g under p
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    rgambs said:
    Cracker is surely racist, it's an epithet for a particular race, but it doesn't offend me in the least.
    I also don't think that it's use is always meant to be offensive.
    Yes it is not always spoken to be offensive. I believe in the begining it was a term used to identify those who cracked the whip. They were then called cracker and most if not all were white.

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  • The Juggler
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    If the shooter were of darker skin, surely the president would've spent the whole morning irrationally tweeting about being tough on terrorism and the need for his ban, right?

    Crazy 64 year old white guy? Silence....except for one tweet that his chief of staff probably forced him to type.
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  • tbergs
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    If the shooter were of darker skin, surely the president would've spent the whole morning irrationally tweeting about being tough on terrorism and the need for his ban, right?

    Crazy 64 year old white guy? Silence....except for one tweet that his chief of staff probably forced him to type.
    It was a very spineless tweet at that. Condolences, sympathy and god bless you. He made it sound so normal, but yet he's outraged with Puerto Rico and the fake news coverage. Such a fucked up stance on priorities. How about 10 tweets about the insanity of gun violence and a need for review of our current laws and ownership guidelines.

    Instead his lack of comment only empowers his base and the mindless supporters of out of date 2nd amendment arguments. Fucking NRA and lobbyists are loving how he's already downplayed it in to just another "shooting". This is the one time where he could use his "worst" or "biggest" adjectives with accuracy. #Fucktard
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  • g under p
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    edited October 2017
    If the shooter were of darker skin, surely the president would've spent the whole morning irrationally tweeting about being tough on terrorism and the need for his ban, right?

    Crazy 64 year old white guy? Silence....except for one tweet that his chief of staff probably forced him to type.
    I would agree if the shooter opposite than what it appears to be he would've  been ALL twit on world. Hes a spineless propellerless drone.

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  • rgambs said:
    Cracker is surely racist, it's an epithet for a particular race, but it doesn't offend me in the least.
    I also don't think that it's use is always meant to be offensive.
    Calling the President a cracker is disgusting. It really is. Michael Che totally meant for it to be used as a slur. He should be fired. Trump is not the ideal leader but a racial slur? C'mon man...
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