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Yep, the President's most important duty is to uphold the Constitution of the United States. Sure, he has every right to say he disagrees with the protests. What he doesn't have is a legal right to influence or threaten to influence the employment decisions of private entities as defined by Title 18, Section 227 of United States Code - a law which Jeff Sessions apparently has no clue exists.Kat said:Jeff Sessions Defends Trump’s Right To Speak Out Against Free Speech“The president has free speech rights too,” the attorney general said of Trump’s condemnation of NFL players who protest.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeff-sessions-trump-nfl_us_59ca8732e4b0cdc7733534d4?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
Um...the president is supposed to be the #1 supporter of the Constitution and he clearly isn't when he condemns the American right to peaceful protest. It's the opposite as in unAmerican. So JeffSessions, you are that too evidently. Did he send you out to say that drivel?
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Yep, the President's most important duty is to uphold the Constitution of the United States. Sure, he has every right to say he disagrees with the protests. What he doesn't have is a legal right to influence or threaten to influence the employment decisions of private entities as defined by Title 18, Section 227 of United States Code - a law which Jeff Sessions apparently has no clue exists.Kat said:Jeff Sessions Defends Trump’s Right To Speak Out Against Free Speech“The president has free speech rights too,” the attorney general said of Trump’s condemnation of NFL players who protest.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeff-sessions-trump-nfl_us_59ca8732e4b0cdc7733534d4?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
Um...the president is supposed to be the #1 supporter of the Constitution and he clearly isn't when he condemns the American right to peaceful protest. It's the opposite as in unAmerican. So JeffSessions, you are that too evidently. Did he send you out to say that drivel?Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180 -
Hatred is the absence of Love.tbergs said:
This raises a very complex and unpleasant topic; how much is hatred and evil necessary for love and good to exist? Would the world have been a better place if all previous oppressive and genocidal tyrants never existed? In their time, yes, but in the course of history, it's impossible to know how it prevented or influenced the opposite views and actions.CM189191 said:
No, tRump is not necessary. The world would be a better place if the tRump family never existed.BS44325 said:
I've laid it out a million times. I don't like him but I think he is necessary.PJ_Soul said:^^^^ All silly bullshit.
Why in the fuck are you a Trump supporter BS? It's so weird. Are you just a contrarian?
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BS is only concerned with his team winning elections... nothing else matters.... this is also my countrproblem in a nutshell, people willing to do anything and explain away anything just to win and secure power... Mexicans are rapists... disrespecting veterans... bullying handicapped people... assaulting women... bullying in general... supportung fucking nazi's... educated supporters like BS should be ashamed of themselves
By the way, neocons proved throughout the 2000's that they don't know shit and their ideas and worldview are filled with hubris and are nothing short of destructive and WRONG
I'm not shocked in the slightest dumb ass Trump is being duped by them, just like W was.Post edited by my2hands on0 -
Trumpcare is officially dead.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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10/01/17HughFreakingDillon said:Trumpcare is officially dead.0 -
Trumpcare won't be officially dead until Trump is out of office and the GOP no longer controls Congress. Until then its zombified corpse will keep rising to torment us.
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correct. I meant for this round.JimmyV said:Trumpcare won't be officially dead until Trump is out of office and the GOP no longer controls Congress. Until then its zombified corpse will keep rising to torment us.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Seven years the GOP used ACA as a wedge issue and it worked to their advantage. I don't see them rushing to 'fix' anything anytime soon.0
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Kat said:Jeff Sessions Defends Trump’s Right To Speak Out Against Free Speech“The president has free speech rights too,” the attorney general said of Trump’s condemnation of NFL players who protest.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeff-sessions-trump-nfl_us_59ca8732e4b0cdc7733534d4?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
Um...the president is supposed to be the #1 supporter of the Constitution and he clearly isn't when he condemns the American right to peaceful protest. It's the opposite as in unAmerican. So JeffSessions, you are that too evidently. Did he send you out to say that drivel?
The President is not condemning the "right to protest" but the style in which it is being conducted. He has said that it is the player's right...he just doesn't like it and has the right to condemn it as disrespectful even though I disagree with him doing it. He also has the right to say an owner "should" fire a player but he doesn't have the right to "order" or "force" an owner to fire a player...which he hasn't done. An owner and/or league has code of conduct rules and they do have the right to fire a player. The NBA previously suspended Abdoul Rauf for failing to stand for the anthem. The NFL has fined players for wearing sneakers that paid respects to 9/11. Google just fired an employee for writing a memo. This forum bans people when they are in breach of posting rules. Free speech is not a one way street.0 -
My team? That's just assholery.my2hands said:BS is only concerned with his team winning elections... nothing else matters.... this is also my countrproblem in a nutshell, people willing to do anything and explain away anything just to win and secure power... Mexicans are rapists... disrespecting veterans... bullying handicapped people... assaulting women... bullying in general... supportung fucking nazi's... educated supporters like BS should be ashamed of themselves
By the way, neocons proved throughout the 2000's that they don't know shit and their ideas and worldview are filled with hubris and are nothing short of destructive and WRONG
I'm not shocked in the slightest dumb ass Trump is being duped by them, just like W was.0 -
I haven't noticed that any of Trump's rights are being violated, so I don't know why you're going on about how he has the right to do this and that. Yeah, he does. That is why he hasn't been arrested. That doesn't mean the world can't acknowledge what a fucking asshole and horrible, terrible leader for America he is for saying and thinking all of it.BS44325 said:Kat said:Jeff Sessions Defends Trump’s Right To Speak Out Against Free Speech“The president has free speech rights too,” the attorney general said of Trump’s condemnation of NFL players who protest.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeff-sessions-trump-nfl_us_59ca8732e4b0cdc7733534d4?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
Um...the president is supposed to be the #1 supporter of the Constitution and he clearly isn't when he condemns the American right to peaceful protest. It's the opposite as in unAmerican. So JeffSessions, you are that too evidently. Did he send you out to say that drivel?
The President is not condemning the "right to protest" but the style in which it is being conducted. He has said that it is the player's right...he just doesn't like it and has the right to condemn it as disrespectful even though I disagree with him doing it. He also has the right to say an owner "should" fire a player but he doesn't have the right to "order" or "force" an owner to fire a player...which he hasn't done. An owner and/or league has code of conduct rules and they do have the right to fire a player. The NBA previously suspended Abdoul Rauf for failing to stand for the anthem. The NFL has fined players for wearing sneakers that paid respects to 9/11. Google just fired an employee for writing a memo. This forum bans people when they are in breach of posting rules. Free speech is not a one way street.
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the sneakers were a violation of their uniform policy. the NFL has no policy on standing for, or even attending, the national anthem.BS44325 said:Kat said:Jeff Sessions Defends Trump’s Right To Speak Out Against Free Speech“The president has free speech rights too,” the attorney general said of Trump’s condemnation of NFL players who protest.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeff-sessions-trump-nfl_us_59ca8732e4b0cdc7733534d4?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
Um...the president is supposed to be the #1 supporter of the Constitution and he clearly isn't when he condemns the American right to peaceful protest. It's the opposite as in unAmerican. So JeffSessions, you are that too evidently. Did he send you out to say that drivel?
The President is not condemning the "right to protest" but the style in which it is being conducted. He has said that it is the player's right...he just doesn't like it and has the right to condemn it as disrespectful even though I disagree with him doing it. He also has the right to say an owner "should" fire a player but he doesn't have the right to "order" or "force" an owner to fire a player...which he hasn't done. An owner and/or league has code of conduct rules and they do have the right to fire a player. The NBA previously suspended Abdoul Rauf for failing to stand for the anthem. The NFL has fined players for wearing sneakers that paid respects to 9/11. Google just fired an employee for writing a memo. This forum bans people when they are in breach of posting rules. Free speech is not a one way street.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
I haven't said any of Trump's rights were violated. We are talking about what speech rights he has and I'm glad you agree with me. It is also your right to criticize him the way you do.PJ_Soul said:
I haven't noticed that any of Trump's rights are being violated, so I don't know why you're going on about how he has the right to do this and that. Yeah, he does. That is why he hasn't been arrested. That doesn't mean the world can't acknowledge what a fucking asshole and horrible, terrible leader for America he is for saying and thinking all of it.BS44325 said:Kat said:Jeff Sessions Defends Trump’s Right To Speak Out Against Free Speech“The president has free speech rights too,” the attorney general said of Trump’s condemnation of NFL players who protest.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeff-sessions-trump-nfl_us_59ca8732e4b0cdc7733534d4?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
Um...the president is supposed to be the #1 supporter of the Constitution and he clearly isn't when he condemns the American right to peaceful protest. It's the opposite as in unAmerican. So JeffSessions, you are that too evidently. Did he send you out to say that drivel?
The President is not condemning the "right to protest" but the style in which it is being conducted. He has said that it is the player's right...he just doesn't like it and has the right to condemn it as disrespectful even though I disagree with him doing it. He also has the right to say an owner "should" fire a player but he doesn't have the right to "order" or "force" an owner to fire a player...which he hasn't done. An owner and/or league has code of conduct rules and they do have the right to fire a player. The NBA previously suspended Abdoul Rauf for failing to stand for the anthem. The NFL has fined players for wearing sneakers that paid respects to 9/11. Google just fired an employee for writing a memo. This forum bans people when they are in breach of posting rules. Free speech is not a one way street.0 -
Correct but teams have general behavioural codes in their contracts and they have the right to fine, bench or fire a player even if it wouldn't necessarily be in their best interest. Again I am not suggesting a team should do this I am only suggesting that they probably have the right to do this although it would be opposed by the player's union and it would probably end up in court.HughFreakingDillon said:
the sneakers were a violation of their uniform policy. the NFL has no policy on standing for, or even attending, the national anthem.BS44325 said:Kat said:Jeff Sessions Defends Trump’s Right To Speak Out Against Free Speech“The president has free speech rights too,” the attorney general said of Trump’s condemnation of NFL players who protest.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeff-sessions-trump-nfl_us_59ca8732e4b0cdc7733534d4?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
Um...the president is supposed to be the #1 supporter of the Constitution and he clearly isn't when he condemns the American right to peaceful protest. It's the opposite as in unAmerican. So JeffSessions, you are that too evidently. Did he send you out to say that drivel?
The President is not condemning the "right to protest" but the style in which it is being conducted. He has said that it is the player's right...he just doesn't like it and has the right to condemn it as disrespectful even though I disagree with him doing it. He also has the right to say an owner "should" fire a player but he doesn't have the right to "order" or "force" an owner to fire a player...which he hasn't done. An owner and/or league has code of conduct rules and they do have the right to fire a player. The NBA previously suspended Abdoul Rauf for failing to stand for the anthem. The NFL has fined players for wearing sneakers that paid respects to 9/11. Google just fired an employee for writing a memo. This forum bans people when they are in breach of posting rules. Free speech is not a one way street.0 -
Yes, why yes he is. "There is a global nightmare..............................PJ_Soul said:
Yes, if you're aiming for the decline and fall of the USA, I agree he is necessary. But look, your comment about his UN speech suggests you're saying more than what you're claiming is your point. Are you so egotistical that you think you know what's best for the world when literally every single other reasonable leader on the face of the planet doesn't, along with all other reasonable people, military leaders, geniuses, scientists, et al? I think it's almost fascinating that you feel like you know something that all of these much more qualified and informed people don't (not to mention about 68% of all US voters).BS44325 said:
I've laid it out a million times. I don't like him but I think he is necessary.PJ_Soul said:^^^^ All silly bullshit.
Why in the fuck are you a Trump supporter BS? It's so weird. Are you just a contrarian?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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We all have skin in the game.rgambs said:
Because you act like this a stage play, like a fucking dramatised Machiavellian power struggle, except you forgot that it's real life, with real lives on the line, and you somehow missed that The Prince was a damn satire. You have no skin in the game so you're willing to bet any sum because someone else will foot the bill.BS44325 said:
How so?rgambs said:
That is some sickening and insane stuff right there.BS44325 said:
People know what the kneeling is about...they just think it is misplaced. Trump is also doing just fine on Puerto Rico all things considered. The federal governments involvement has been spot on through all these disasters and while much of your critique on Trump is fair this one is an overreach that cheapens your general argument. I think Trump has said a lot of terrible things but I also think he has said many correct and necessary things. You might never understand how many see his UN speech as one of the most important speeches to date. It is the speech that Hillary Clinton would never have made. There is a global nightmare that predates Trump which took years and years of "mentally fit" politicians to create. People have decided that it is time for "crazy".PJ_Soul said:
It's amazing how quickly and easily Trump and all of the idiots who agree with him on this crazy NFL thing have forgotten what the kneeling is all about. They all seem to think it's about the American flag and anthem, when it's actually about racial inequality and police brutality. I am not sure I've ever been so frustrated with the fucker since he took office, what with how he's ignoring the message being sent here, as well as the way he's handling the Puerto Rico horror. I can't fucking believe he brought up their terrible financial woes, which are a result of mistreatment by the American government, while in the same breath relating the total devastation and humanitarian crisis happening there. Seriously, Trump has NEVER ONCE done or said a single good or right thing since he took office. The severity of his failure as POTUS is still blowing my mind every single day. It's exhausting. I feel like there is something wrong with the system if a man like this can carry on the way he has and still stay in office, honestly. How can a modern country allow a very clearly mentally unfit person lead it?? Maybe after this nightmare is over the USA and other countries can take a good long look at their policies around this matter, and make it possible to remove someone who is crazy like this. Surely there is a way to do that without leaving doors open to abuses.HughFreakingDillon said:
yeah, nascar supporting trump is a massive surprise.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:Latest tweet from President Trump folks........
So proud of NASCAR and its supporters and fans. They won't put up with disrespecting our Country or our Flag - they said it loud and clear! Many people booed the players who kneeled yesterday (which was a small percentage of total). These are fans who demand respect for our Flag! The issue of kneeling has nothing to do with race. It is about respect for our Country, Flag and National Anthem. NFL must respect this! .@CNN is #FakeNews. Just reported COS (John Kelly) was opposed to my stance on NFL players disrespecting FLAG, ANTHEM, COUNTRY. Total lie! General John Kelly totally agrees w/ my stance on NFL players and the fact that they should not be disrespecting our FLAG or GREAT COUNTRY! Tremendous backlash against the NFL and its players for disrespect of our Country. #StandForOurAnthem
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I guess he is bored waiting for the impeachment stuff to gain any traction to battle against so the kneeling battle it is. Latest tweet folks....
Ratings for NFL football are way down except before game starts, when people tune in to see whether or not our country will be disrespected! The booing at the NFL football game last night, when the entire Dallas team dropped to its knees, was loudest I have ever heard. Great anger. But while Dallas dropped to its knees as a team, they all stood up for our National Anthem. Big progress being made-we all love our country! The NFL has all sorts of rules and regulations. The only way out for them is to set a rule that you can't kneel during our National Anthem!
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Nope. The status quo was unacceptable. The world was and still is steamrolling towards catastrophe.CM189191 said:
No, tRump is not necessary. The world would be a better place if the tRump family never existed.BS44325 said:
I've laid it out a million times. I don't like him but I think he is necessary.PJ_Soul said:^^^^ All silly bullshit.
Why in the fuck are you a Trump supporter BS? It's so weird. Are you just a contrarian?0
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