Donald Trump

PJ_Soul

HesCalledDyer said:

I honestly don't know where I'd sit in regards to visiting the White House if I were on a Championship team.  On one hand, I certainly would not feel the least bit inclined to pretend I'm glad to be in Donald Trump's presence, but on the other hand I would feel honored to walk the halls of the national monument that is the White House.  To walk the same halls as more honorable Presidents past.  That's not an opportunity very many people get.  If I did it, it would certainly ONLY be out of appreciation for the Office itself, not the orange fucktard occupying it.

But I'm 40 years old and out of shape so I don't see me winning jack shit any time soon.  Even if I woke up as Phil Kessel tomorrow, I'd imagine I'd pull off a similar stunt as Albert Almora Jr. when the Cubs visited in June (even though he denied it was on purpose).

I'd just wait to visit until after Trump is gone myself. Either get a special invite from a different Prez (if you're worthy, lol), or just go on one of the White House tours. The thing is, Trump literally reads people accepting the invite as a public show of support for himself, and that is how he presents it on Twitter too. In Trump's world, everything is about HIM. Those people aren't visiting the historical White House. They are visiting HIM. There is no way in hell I'd risk giving him that impression or opportunity.

pjhawks

PJ_Soul said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I honestly don't know where I'd sit in regards to visiting the White House if I were on a Championship team.  On one hand, I certainly would not feel the least bit inclined to pretend I'm glad to be in Donald Trump's presence, but on the other hand I would feel honored to walk the halls of the national monument that is the White House.  To walk the same halls as more honorable Presidents past.  That's not an opportunity very many people get.  If I did it, it would certainly ONLY be out of appreciation for the Office itself, not the orange fucktard occupying it.

But I'm 40 years old and out of shape so I don't see me winning jack shit any time soon.  Even if I woke up as Phil Kessel tomorrow, I'd imagine I'd pull off a similar stunt as Albert Almora Jr. when the Cubs visited in June (even though he denied it was on purpose).

I'd just wait to visit until after Trump is gone myself. Either get a special invite from a different Prez (if you're worthy, lol), or just go on one of the White House tours. The thing is, Trump literally reads people accepting the invite as a public show of support for himself, and that is how he presents it on Twitter too. There is no way in hell I'd risk giving him that impression or opportunity.

exactly. 

tbergs

pjhawks said:

tbergs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I can honestly say that if he invited me to the WH I'd tell him to go fuck himself. it's only a honour if the host is honourable. 

I would go, but it would be to make a point or a stand for everything he isn't or doesn't support in this country. If it means a chance to make a platform and stand against the bullshit he is spewing, then I sure as hell will be there to do everything I can to draw attention to it for the right reasons. Get me up there in front of him with all cameras and media present and then lay it out. If I had the money and the fame to be in that position, I would challenge him to make a difference and be willing to donate $1 million dollars of my own money to one of the many charities or humanitarian efforts out there if he could for once recognize and call out the hate, inequality and injustices that exist.

I understand why many won't and don't want to go, but I think they could do more with their influence if they came to the table, even under not so ideal circumstances. I thinks it's great the Warriors are going to make an effort as a team to make a positive impact doing community work, but they could have done that and still saved face by making a public stance while at the WH. The best way to explain it is by comparing the interview Fallon gave Trump compared with Letterman. It doesn't make you a supporter by inviting them in to your house, it's whether you choose to address the complexity of the situation. Fallon pandered and Letterman called him out.

Great for these athletes to turn him down, but that's the easy way out. We all saw how the Patriots handled the invite, but we've yet to see a team handle it in a Letterman style. Let's hope the Pens are the first to be more challenging to this box of rocks WH. Probably won't happen, but you never know.

except you are not going to be given a platform with the President to make any type of statement. It's not like his people are going to to let you just go off on a tangent while standing there. you legitimize him by being with him.  better to stay far away and make your statements.

I disagree. And I was of course speaking hypothetically. The anti Trump establishment needs a voice and a leader who is willing to take such an ostracizing position in a public setting.

tbergs

tbergs said:

pjhawks said:

tbergs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I can honestly say that if he invited me to the WH I'd tell him to go fuck himself. it's only a honour if the host is honourable. 

I would go, but it would be to make a point or a stand for everything he isn't or doesn't support in this country. If it means a chance to make a platform and stand against the bullshit he is spewing, then I sure as hell will be there to do everything I can to draw attention to it for the right reasons. Get me up there in front of him with all cameras and media present and then lay it out. If I had the money and the fame to be in that position, I would challenge him to make a difference and be willing to donate $1 million dollars of my own money to one of the many charities or humanitarian efforts out there if he could for once recognize and call out the hate, inequality and injustices that exist.

I understand why many won't and don't want to go, but I think they could do more with their influence if they came to the table, even under not so ideal circumstances. I thinks it's great the Warriors are going to make an effort as a team to make a positive impact doing community work, but they could have done that and still saved face by making a public stance while at the WH. The best way to explain it is by comparing the interview Fallon gave Trump compared with Letterman. It doesn't make you a supporter by inviting them in to your house, it's whether you choose to address the complexity of the situation. Fallon pandered and Letterman called him out.

Great for these athletes to turn him down, but that's the easy way out. We all saw how the Patriots handled the invite, but we've yet to see a team handle it in a Letterman style. Let's hope the Pens are the first to be more challenging to this box of rocks WH. Probably won't happen, but you never know.

except you are not going to be given a platform with the President to make any type of statement. It's not like his people are going to to let you just go off on a tangent while standing there. you legitimize him by being with him.  better to stay far away and make your statements.

I disagree. And I was of course speaking hypothetically. The anti Trump establishment needs a voice and a leader who is willing to take such an ostracizing position in a public setting.

Also, it doesn't have to be some huge overt act. I think of Jeff's subtle nod with his shirt at the RNRHOF.

HesCalledDyer

pjhawks said:

PJ_Soul said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I honestly don't know where I'd sit in regards to visiting the White House if I were on a Championship team.  On one hand, I certainly would not feel the least bit inclined to pretend I'm glad to be in Donald Trump's presence, but on the other hand I would feel honored to walk the halls of the national monument that is the White House.  To walk the same halls as more honorable Presidents past.  That's not an opportunity very many people get.  If I did it, it would certainly ONLY be out of appreciation for the Office itself, not the orange fucktard occupying it.

But I'm 40 years old and out of shape so I don't see me winning jack shit any time soon.  Even if I woke up as Phil Kessel tomorrow, I'd imagine I'd pull off a similar stunt as Albert Almora Jr. when the Cubs visited in June (even though he denied it was on purpose).

I'd just wait to visit until after Trump is gone myself. Either get a special invite from a different Prez (if you're worthy, lol), or just go on one of the White House tours. The thing is, Trump literally reads people accepting the invite as a public show of support for himself, and that is how he presents it on Twitter too. There is no way in hell I'd risk giving him that impression or opportunity.

exactly. 

That is definitely a good point. And just because of the fact he'd view it as me supporting him, I think I'm convinced to stay home.

Halifax2TheMax

Such a role model. So dignified. Such a class act. Sure do hope all kids emulate him.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4914922/Patriots-owner-Robert-Kraft-speaks-Trump-comments.html

Trump flips the bird. He's so beneath the dignity of the office.

tbergs

HesCalledDyer said:

pjhawks said:

PJ_Soul said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I honestly don't know where I'd sit in regards to visiting the White House if I were on a Championship team.  On one hand, I certainly would not feel the least bit inclined to pretend I'm glad to be in Donald Trump's presence, but on the other hand I would feel honored to walk the halls of the national monument that is the White House.  To walk the same halls as more honorable Presidents past.  That's not an opportunity very many people get.  If I did it, it would certainly ONLY be out of appreciation for the Office itself, not the orange fucktard occupying it.

But I'm 40 years old and out of shape so I don't see me winning jack shit any time soon.  Even if I woke up as Phil Kessel tomorrow, I'd imagine I'd pull off a similar stunt as Albert Almora Jr. when the Cubs visited in June (even though he denied it was on purpose).

I'd just wait to visit until after Trump is gone myself. Either get a special invite from a different Prez (if you're worthy, lol), or just go on one of the White House tours. The thing is, Trump literally reads people accepting the invite as a public show of support for himself, and that is how he presents it on Twitter too. There is no way in hell I'd risk giving him that impression or opportunity.

exactly. 

That is definitely a good point. And just because of the fact he'd view it as me supporting him, I think I'm convinced to stay home.

Honestly, who cares if the giant ignoramus thinks you support him just by going. You have the power and control over your own viewpoints and image to make it clear to the rational thinkers of the world who are able to perceive reality. He's a dumbass who's only response will come through a Tweet once he figures it out.

PJ_Soul

I would care because I wouldn't want to contribute to his giant ego. No thanks! Also, I would seriously just be physically ill being in the same room as him. I may as well go to a prison and hang out with a rapist for the day. I also wouldn't want to give his base more to use as ammunition for their Trump army.

CM189191

tbergs said:

tbergs said:

pjhawks said:

tbergs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I can honestly say that if he invited me to the WH I'd tell him to go fuck himself. it's only a honour if the host is honourable. 

I would go, but it would be to make a point or a stand for everything he isn't or doesn't support in this country. If it means a chance to make a platform and stand against the bullshit he is spewing, then I sure as hell will be there to do everything I can to draw attention to it for the right reasons. Get me up there in front of him with all cameras and media present and then lay it out. If I had the money and the fame to be in that position, I would challenge him to make a difference and be willing to donate $1 million dollars of my own money to one of the many charities or humanitarian efforts out there if he could for once recognize and call out the hate, inequality and injustices that exist.

I understand why many won't and don't want to go, but I think they could do more with their influence if they came to the table, even under not so ideal circumstances. I thinks it's great the Warriors are going to make an effort as a team to make a positive impact doing community work, but they could have done that and still saved face by making a public stance while at the WH. The best way to explain it is by comparing the interview Fallon gave Trump compared with Letterman. It doesn't make you a supporter by inviting them in to your house, it's whether you choose to address the complexity of the situation. Fallon pandered and Letterman called him out.

Great for these athletes to turn him down, but that's the easy way out. We all saw how the Patriots handled the invite, but we've yet to see a team handle it in a Letterman style. Let's hope the Pens are the first to be more challenging to this box of rocks WH. Probably won't happen, but you never know.

except you are not going to be given a platform with the President to make any type of statement. It's not like his people are going to to let you just go off on a tangent while standing there. you legitimize him by being with him.  better to stay far away and make your statements.

I disagree. And I was of course speaking hypothetically. The anti Trump establishment needs a voice and a leader who is willing to take such an ostracizing position in a public setting.

Also, it doesn't have to be some huge overt act. I think of Jeff's subtle nod with his shirt at the RNRHOF.

Something subtle, like this?

PJfanwillneverleave1

Latest tweet from President Trump folks........

So proud of NASCAR and its supporters and fans. They won't put up with disrespecting our Country or our Flag - they said it loud and clear! Many people booed the players who kneeled yesterday (which was a small percentage of total). These are fans who demand respect for our Flag! The issue of kneeling has nothing to do with race. It is about respect for our Country, Flag and National Anthem. NFL must respect this! .@CNN is #FakeNews. Just reported COS (John Kelly) was opposed to my stance on NFL players disrespecting FLAG, ANTHEM, COUNTRY. Total lie! General John Kelly totally agrees w/ my stance on NFL players and the fact that they should not be disrespecting our FLAG or GREAT COUNTRY! Tremendous backlash against the NFL and its players for disrespect of our Country. #StandForOurAnthem

rgambs

What a childish buffoon.

ikiT

He will not win against ALL of organized professional sports.

mfc2006

Trump is a fucking idiot.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Lol. The downward spiral he's stuck in has no chance of reversing course. His emotional intelligence is that of a gnat.

tempo_n_groove

CM189191 said:

tbergs said:

tbergs said:

pjhawks said:

tbergs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I can honestly say that if he invited me to the WH I'd tell him to go fuck himself. it's only a honour if the host is honourable. 

I would go, but it would be to make a point or a stand for everything he isn't or doesn't support in this country. If it means a chance to make a platform and stand against the bullshit he is spewing, then I sure as hell will be there to do everything I can to draw attention to it for the right reasons. Get me up there in front of him with all cameras and media present and then lay it out. If I had the money and the fame to be in that position, I would challenge him to make a difference and be willing to donate $1 million dollars of my own money to one of the many charities or humanitarian efforts out there if he could for once recognize and call out the hate, inequality and injustices that exist.

I understand why many won't and don't want to go, but I think they could do more with their influence if they came to the table, even under not so ideal circumstances. I thinks it's great the Warriors are going to make an effort as a team to make a positive impact doing community work, but they could have done that and still saved face by making a public stance while at the WH. The best way to explain it is by comparing the interview Fallon gave Trump compared with Letterman. It doesn't make you a supporter by inviting them in to your house, it's whether you choose to address the complexity of the situation. Fallon pandered and Letterman called him out.

Great for these athletes to turn him down, but that's the easy way out. We all saw how the Patriots handled the invite, but we've yet to see a team handle it in a Letterman style. Let's hope the Pens are the first to be more challenging to this box of rocks WH. Probably won't happen, but you never know.

except you are not going to be given a platform with the President to make any type of statement. It's not like his people are going to to let you just go off on a tangent while standing there. you legitimize him by being with him.  better to stay far away and make your statements.

I disagree. And I was of course speaking hypothetically. The anti Trump establishment needs a voice and a leader who is willing to take such an ostracizing position in a public setting.

Also, it doesn't have to be some huge overt act. I think of Jeff's subtle nod with his shirt at the RNRHOF.

Something subtle, like this?

I wore this to work today. 

PJfanwillneverleave1

Latest tweet from President Trump folks...

Texas & Florida are doing great but Puerto Rico, which was already suffering from broken infrastructure & massive debt, is in deep trouble It's old electrical grid, which was in terrible shape, was devastated. Much of the Island was destroyed, with billions of dollars owed to Wall Street and the banks which, sadly, must be dealt with. Food, water and medical are top priorities - and doing well. #FEMA

rgambs

#can'tformasentence

rgambs

We have a POTUS that would undoubtedly lose Are You Smarter Than A Fifth Grader.

F Me In The Brain

dumb
stupid
fake
wrong

I think that he would do well in arguments with 5th graders

F Me In The Brain

He could talk over them after his demeaning comments as well.