What a joke this memo was... now we can't say what classified information from it, but so far as I can tell it does nothing to damage Mueller's work. Even if you believe the letter of everything in here (including the overuse of adjectives and hyperbole), it comes NOWHERE near anything criminal in its accusations., And of course it unintentionally informs us that Papadopolous's mouth was the loose lip that started it all. No wonder BS and JC have gone radio silent.
I’m still here. Just watching everybody flail around for a little bit...
Flail? The only flail is Team Trump Treason and the fail is all Nunes. I do wonder how the Canadian intelligence services view these developments?
You realize that there is only a special council because Comey was fired don’t you? You also realize that Comey initiated a meeting to discuss the dossier with President Trump and withheld where that dossier came from? Do you think that is something the President should have been told? CNN reported on the existence of the meeting and Dossier the very next day. This is just one aspect of the corruption.
On FISA abuse...the origin of the dossier was not presented to the FISC judge. That is major unethical omission. The FBI used a news article from Isikoff as a second source to corroborate the dossier when that info was from Steele as well! That is a major misrepresentation to the court. Whether the investigation was intitated due to Papadopoulos is irrelevant to what the FBI brought to the FISC. The ability to spy on Page comes from the dossier...fruit of the poisonous tree.
Lastly...we haven’t even gotten to the next step which is what information was obtained, unmasked, and dessiminated because of this unethically obtained warrant.
We know that Mike Rogers informed Trump during the transition that Trump Tower was being monitored and the very next day they moved the transition team to New Jersey. It is all coming out.
and you flail...
Ha! Irrelevant! That's a nice change of tune lol
What’s the change? Papadopoulos is relevant to an investigation but irrelevant to the dossier being misrepresented to a judge. If the evidence was so damning then why lie to a judge? If the FBI was so certain of their case then they could have been honest with the judge and still obtained the FISA warrant. They weren’t honest though so we’ll never know. It’s all tainted and all those who participated will need to be removed in order to restore trust to the process. Hatred of Trump caused good people to do bad things.
oops.. reporting today says it was disclosed. . OOPS
That the officials disclosed the political nature of the dossier to the surveillance court upends the central allegation in the memo released Friday by Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee.
But but but......consulting my talking points this morning...... "hate makes good people do bad things....or whatever"
It isn’t about Nunes. It isn’t about Schiff. It is about facts known to date and a DOJ that needs to be accountable to the people. Release the full FISA application and let the people decide.
It isn’t about Nunes. It isn’t about Schiff. It is about facts known to date and a DOJ that needs to be accountable to the people. Release the full FISA application and let the people decide.
I agree. Trump could have released the application forever ago. Why hasn't he?
And it is about Nunes at this moment because this is at least the second major time he misused his chairmanship to serve as Trump's lap dog.
What a joke this memo was... now we can't say what classified information from it, but so far as I can tell it does nothing to damage Mueller's work. Even if you believe the letter of everything in here (including the overuse of adjectives and hyperbole), it comes NOWHERE near anything criminal in its accusations., And of course it unintentionally informs us that Papadopolous's mouth was the loose lip that started it all. No wonder BS and JC have gone radio silent.
I’m still here. Just watching everybody flail around for a little bit...
Flail? The only flail is Team Trump Treason and the fail is all Nunes. I do wonder how the Canadian intelligence services view these developments?
You realize that there is only a special council because Comey was fired don’t you? You also realize that Comey initiated a meeting to discuss the dossier with President Trump and withheld where that dossier came from? Do you think that is something the President should have been told? CNN reported on the existence of the meeting and Dossier the very next day. This is just one aspect of the corruption.
On FISA abuse...the origin of the dossier was not presented to the FISC judge. That is major unethical omission. The FBI used a news article from Isikoff as a second source to corroborate the dossier when that info was from Steele as well! That is a major misrepresentation to the court. Whether the investigation was intitated due to Papadopoulos is irrelevant to what the FBI brought to the FISC. The ability to spy on Page comes from the dossier...fruit of the poisonous tree.
Lastly...we haven’t even gotten to the next step which is what information was obtained, unmasked, and dessiminated because of this unethically obtained warrant.
We know that Mike Rogers informed Trump during the transition that Trump Tower was being monitored and the very next day they moved the transition team to New Jersey. It is all coming out.
and you flail...
Ha! Irrelevant! That's a nice change of tune lol
What’s the change? Papadopoulos is relevant to an investigation but irrelevant to the dossier being misrepresented to a judge. If the evidence was so damning then why lie to a judge? If the FBI was so certain of their case then they could have been honest with the judge and still obtained the FISA warrant. They weren’t honest though so we’ll never know. It’s all tainted and all those who participated will need to be removed in order to restore trust to the process. Hatred of Trump caused good people to do bad things.
oops.. reporting today says it was disclosed. . OOPS
That the officials disclosed the political nature of the dossier to the surveillance court upends the central allegation in the memo released Friday by Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee.
But but but......consulting my talking points this morning...... "hate makes good people do bad things....or whatever"
Read the article closely. Other then that sentence the details are so poor. What about these sentences...
“The Justice Department MAY have told a court of the political origins of an opposition research dossier”
”...though they did not name Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign or the Democratic National Committee.”
So they “may” have told a court about the “political nature” but didn’t mention Hillary or the DNC?
What a joke this memo was... now we can't say what classified information from it, but so far as I can tell it does nothing to damage Mueller's work. Even if you believe the letter of everything in here (including the overuse of adjectives and hyperbole), it comes NOWHERE near anything criminal in its accusations., And of course it unintentionally informs us that Papadopolous's mouth was the loose lip that started it all. No wonder BS and JC have gone radio silent.
I’m still here. Just watching everybody flail around for a little bit...
Flail? The only flail is Team Trump Treason and the fail is all Nunes. I do wonder how the Canadian intelligence services view these developments?
You realize that there is only a special council because Comey was fired don’t you? You also realize that Comey initiated a meeting to discuss the dossier with President Trump and withheld where that dossier came from? Do you think that is something the President should have been told? CNN reported on the existence of the meeting and Dossier the very next day. This is just one aspect of the corruption.
On FISA abuse...the origin of the dossier was not presented to the FISC judge. That is major unethical omission. The FBI used a news article from Isikoff as a second source to corroborate the dossier when that info was from Steele as well! That is a major misrepresentation to the court. Whether the investigation was intitated due to Papadopoulos is irrelevant to what the FBI brought to the FISC. The ability to spy on Page comes from the dossier...fruit of the poisonous tree.
Lastly...we haven’t even gotten to the next step which is what information was obtained, unmasked, and dessiminated because of this unethically obtained warrant.
We know that Mike Rogers informed Trump during the transition that Trump Tower was being monitored and the very next day they moved the transition team to New Jersey. It is all coming out.
and you flail...
Ha! Irrelevant! That's a nice change of tune lol
What’s the change? Papadopoulos is relevant to an investigation but irrelevant to the dossier being misrepresented to a judge. If the evidence was so damning then why lie to a judge? If the FBI was so certain of their case then they could have been honest with the judge and still obtained the FISA warrant. They weren’t honest though so we’ll never know. It’s all tainted and all those who participated will need to be removed in order to restore trust to the process. Hatred of Trump caused good people to do bad things.
oops.. reporting today says it was disclosed. . OOPS
That the officials disclosed the political nature of the dossier to the surveillance court upends the central allegation in the memo released Friday by Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee.
But but but......consulting my talking points this morning...... "hate makes good people do bad things....or whatever"
And what's their second argument? Oh yeah, that the investigation was precipitated by Steele when we learned affirmatively yesterday that Papadopolous, who worked for the campaign, was already under surveillance.
And let's not forget that the administration claimed several times that Page didn't work for the campaign. Now suddenly Trump is a victim because a person who didn't work for the campaign was under surveillance? Well which one is it?
And which of these arguments is holding its ground? None of them.
It isn’t about Nunes. It isn’t about Schiff. It is about facts known to date and a DOJ that needs to be accountable to the people. Release the full FISA application and let the people decide.
I agree. Trump could have released the application forever ago. Why hasn't he?
And it is about Nunes at this moment because this is at least the second major time he misused his chairmanship to serve as Trump's lap dog.
Patience my friend. Draining the swamp takes time. You have to slowly get the tainted people to bite in order to fully flush them out.
It isn’t about Nunes. It isn’t about Schiff. It is about facts known to date and a DOJ that needs to be accountable to the people. Release the full FISA application and let the people decide.
I agree. Trump could have released the application forever ago. Why hasn't he?
And it is about Nunes at this moment because this is at least the second major time he misused his chairmanship to serve as Trump's lap dog.
Patience my friend. Draining the swamp takes time. You have to slowly get the tainted people to bite in order to fully flush them out.
So when you're at work, and you are trying to convince your executives, board, whoever to try to do something like a project, investment, etc. Is it your strategy to roll out the weakest, most gap filled argument first? Is it your strategy to make the board question your judgment and laugh at your proposal so you can surprise them at the end with the coup de grace? Give me a break.
It isn’t about Nunes. It isn’t about Schiff. It is about facts known to date and a DOJ that needs to be accountable to the people. Release the full FISA application and let the people decide.
The full FISA application will never be released. Nunes knew that when he wrote the memo.
I wonder if Nunes had any conversations with Carter Page he's worried about getting out?
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What a joke this memo was... now we can't say what classified information from it, but so far as I can tell it does nothing to damage Mueller's work. Even if you believe the letter of everything in here (including the overuse of adjectives and hyperbole), it comes NOWHERE near anything criminal in its accusations., And of course it unintentionally informs us that Papadopolous's mouth was the loose lip that started it all. No wonder BS and JC have gone radio silent.
I’m still here. Just watching everybody flail around for a little bit...
Flail? The only flail is Team Trump Treason and the fail is all Nunes. I do wonder how the Canadian intelligence services view these developments?
You realize that there is only a special council because Comey was fired don’t you? You also realize that Comey initiated a meeting to discuss the dossier with President Trump and withheld where that dossier came from? Do you think that is something the President should have been told? CNN reported on the existence of the meeting and Dossier the very next day. This is just one aspect of the corruption.
On FISA abuse...the origin of the dossier was not presented to the FISC judge. That is major unethical omission. The FBI used a news article from Isikoff as a second source to corroborate the dossier when that info was from Steele as well! That is a major misrepresentation to the court. Whether the investigation was intitated due to Papadopoulos is irrelevant to what the FBI brought to the FISC. The ability to spy on Page comes from the dossier...fruit of the poisonous tree.
Lastly...we haven’t even gotten to the next step which is what information was obtained, unmasked, and dessiminated because of this unethically obtained warrant.
We know that Mike Rogers informed Trump during the transition that Trump Tower was being monitored and the very next day they moved the transition team to New Jersey. It is all coming out.
and you flail...
Ha! Irrelevant! That's a nice change of tune lol
What’s the change? Papadopoulos is relevant to an investigation but irrelevant to the dossier being misrepresented to a judge. If the evidence was so damning then why lie to a judge? If the FBI was so certain of their case then they could have been honest with the judge and still obtained the FISA warrant. They weren’t honest though so we’ll never know. It’s all tainted and all those who participated will need to be removed in order to restore trust to the process. Hatred of Trump caused good people to do bad things.
oops.. reporting today says it was disclosed. . OOPS
That the officials disclosed the political nature of the dossier to the surveillance court upends the central allegation in the memo released Friday by Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee.
But but but......consulting my talking points this morning...... "hate makes good people do bad things....or whatever"
Read the article closely. Other then that sentence the details are so poor. What about these sentences...
“The Justice Department MAY have told a court of the political origins of an opposition research dossier”
”...though they did not name Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign or the Democratic National Committee.”
So they “may” have told a court about the “political nature” but didn’t mention Hillary or the DNC?
What a joke...
You know who else wasn't told the source of Fusion's funding? Steele .
He compiled the whole dossier and went to the FBI independently.
And when he went to the FBI, their response was basically "yeah we know, we're already looking into it."
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What a joke this memo was... now we can't say what classified information from it, but so far as I can tell it does nothing to damage Mueller's work. Even if you believe the letter of everything in here (including the overuse of adjectives and hyperbole), it comes NOWHERE near anything criminal in its accusations., And of course it unintentionally informs us that Papadopolous's mouth was the loose lip that started it all. No wonder BS and JC have gone radio silent.
I’m still here. Just watching everybody flail around for a little bit...
Flail? The only flail is Team Trump Treason and the fail is all Nunes. I do wonder how the Canadian intelligence services view these developments?
You realize that there is only a special council because Comey was fired don’t you? You also realize that Comey initiated a meeting to discuss the dossier with President Trump and withheld where that dossier came from? Do you think that is something the President should have been told? CNN reported on the existence of the meeting and Dossier the very next day. This is just one aspect of the corruption.
On FISA abuse...the origin of the dossier was not presented to the FISC judge. That is major unethical omission. The FBI used a news article from Isikoff as a second source to corroborate the dossier when that info was from Steele as well! That is a major misrepresentation to the court. Whether the investigation was intitated due to Papadopoulos is irrelevant to what the FBI brought to the FISC. The ability to spy on Page comes from the dossier...fruit of the poisonous tree.
Lastly...we haven’t even gotten to the next step which is what information was obtained, unmasked, and dessiminated because of this unethically obtained warrant.
We know that Mike Rogers informed Trump during the transition that Trump Tower was being monitored and the very next day they moved the transition team to New Jersey. It is all coming out.
and you flail...
Ha! Irrelevant! That's a nice change of tune lol
What’s the change? Papadopoulos is relevant to an investigation but irrelevant to the dossier being misrepresented to a judge. If the evidence was so damning then why lie to a judge? If the FBI was so certain of their case then they could have been honest with the judge and still obtained the FISA warrant. They weren’t honest though so we’ll never know. It’s all tainted and all those who participated will need to be removed in order to restore trust to the process. Hatred of Trump caused good people to do bad things.
oops.. reporting today says it was disclosed. . OOPS
That the officials disclosed the political nature of the dossier to the surveillance court upends the central allegation in the memo released Friday by Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee.
But but but......consulting my talking points this morning...... "hate makes good people do bad things....or whatever"
And what's their second argument? Oh yeah, that the investigation was precipitated by Steele when we learned affirmatively yesterday that Papadopolous, who worked for the campaign, was already under surveillance.
And let's not forget that the administration claimed several times that Page didn't work for the campaign. Now suddenly Trump is a victim because a person who didn't work for the campaign was under surveillance? Well which one is it?
And which of these arguments is holding its ground? None of them.
The argument is that an initial FISA request (triggered because of Papadopoulos?) was rejected and yet a second FISA request (with the introduction of a misrepresented Steele dossier) was accepted. Also the claim that Page was not part of the campaign in any meaningful form is a real one along with the fact that Trump was a victim of surveillance due to that weak connection. This is the whole point... A misrepresented dossier was used to get a warrant on Page which was then abused by the NSA to get info on Trump. This is an abuse of power to spy on a political opponent. Why you all defend it is beyond me. You all have become everything you claim to hate. Character is destiny...
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The Juggler
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What a joke this memo was... now we can't say what classified information from it, but so far as I can tell it does nothing to damage Mueller's work. Even if you believe the letter of everything in here (including the overuse of adjectives and hyperbole), it comes NOWHERE near anything criminal in its accusations., And of course it unintentionally informs us that Papadopolous's mouth was the loose lip that started it all. No wonder BS and JC have gone radio silent.
I’m still here. Just watching everybody flail around for a little bit...
Flail? The only flail is Team Trump Treason and the fail is all Nunes. I do wonder how the Canadian intelligence services view these developments?
You realize that there is only a special council because Comey was fired don’t you? You also realize that Comey initiated a meeting to discuss the dossier with President Trump and withheld where that dossier came from? Do you think that is something the President should have been told? CNN reported on the existence of the meeting and Dossier the very next day. This is just one aspect of the corruption.
On FISA abuse...the origin of the dossier was not presented to the FISC judge. That is major unethical omission. The FBI used a news article from Isikoff as a second source to corroborate the dossier when that info was from Steele as well! That is a major misrepresentation to the court. Whether the investigation was intitated due to Papadopoulos is irrelevant to what the FBI brought to the FISC. The ability to spy on Page comes from the dossier...fruit of the poisonous tree.
Lastly...we haven’t even gotten to the next step which is what information was obtained, unmasked, and dessiminated because of this unethically obtained warrant.
We know that Mike Rogers informed Trump during the transition that Trump Tower was being monitored and the very next day they moved the transition team to New Jersey. It is all coming out.
and you flail...
Ha! Irrelevant! That's a nice change of tune lol
What’s the change? Papadopoulos is relevant to an investigation but irrelevant to the dossier being misrepresented to a judge. If the evidence was so damning then why lie to a judge? If the FBI was so certain of their case then they could have been honest with the judge and still obtained the FISA warrant. They weren’t honest though so we’ll never know. It’s all tainted and all those who participated will need to be removed in order to restore trust to the process. Hatred of Trump caused good people to do bad things.
oops.. reporting today says it was disclosed. . OOPS
That the officials disclosed the political nature of the dossier to the surveillance court upends the central allegation in the memo released Friday by Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee.
But but but......consulting my talking points this morning...... "hate makes good people do bad things....or whatever"
Read the article closely. Other then that sentence the details are so poor. What about these sentences...
“The Justice Department MAY have told a court of the political origins of an opposition research dossier”
”...though they did not name Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign or the Democratic National Committee.”
So they “may” have told a court about the “political nature” but didn’t mention Hillary or the DNC?
What a joke...
You know who else wasn't told the source of Fusion's funding? Steele .
He compiled the whole dossier and went to the FBI independently.
And when he went to the FBI, their response was basically "yeah we know, we're already looking into it."
Ha. Who spoon fed you that? Glen simpson? Steele himself? Both have already been caught in lies.
It isn’t about Nunes. It isn’t about Schiff. It is about facts known to date and a DOJ that needs to be accountable to the people. Release the full FISA application and let the people decide.
The full FISA application will never be released. Nunes knew that when he wrote the memo.
I wonder if Nunes had any conversations with Carter Page he's worried about getting out?
Why wonder? If that conversation existed it would have leaked to CNN months ago.
What a joke this memo was... now we can't say what classified information from it, but so far as I can tell it does nothing to damage Mueller's work. Even if you believe the letter of everything in here (including the overuse of adjectives and hyperbole), it comes NOWHERE near anything criminal in its accusations., And of course it unintentionally informs us that Papadopolous's mouth was the loose lip that started it all. No wonder BS and JC have gone radio silent.
I’m still here. Just watching everybody flail around for a little bit...
Flail? The only flail is Team Trump Treason and the fail is all Nunes. I do wonder how the Canadian intelligence services view these developments?
You realize that there is only a special council because Comey was fired don’t you? You also realize that Comey initiated a meeting to discuss the dossier with President Trump and withheld where that dossier came from? Do you think that is something the President should have been told? CNN reported on the existence of the meeting and Dossier the very next day. This is just one aspect of the corruption.
On FISA abuse...the origin of the dossier was not presented to the FISC judge. That is major unethical omission. The FBI used a news article from Isikoff as a second source to corroborate the dossier when that info was from Steele as well! That is a major misrepresentation to the court. Whether the investigation was intitated due to Papadopoulos is irrelevant to what the FBI brought to the FISC. The ability to spy on Page comes from the dossier...fruit of the poisonous tree.
Lastly...we haven’t even gotten to the next step which is what information was obtained, unmasked, and dessiminated because of this unethically obtained warrant.
We know that Mike Rogers informed Trump during the transition that Trump Tower was being monitored and the very next day they moved the transition team to New Jersey. It is all coming out.
and you flail...
Ha! Irrelevant! That's a nice change of tune lol
What’s the change? Papadopoulos is relevant to an investigation but irrelevant to the dossier being misrepresented to a judge. If the evidence was so damning then why lie to a judge? If the FBI was so certain of their case then they could have been honest with the judge and still obtained the FISA warrant. They weren’t honest though so we’ll never know. It’s all tainted and all those who participated will need to be removed in order to restore trust to the process. Hatred of Trump caused good people to do bad things.
oops.. reporting today says it was disclosed. . OOPS
That the officials disclosed the political nature of the dossier to the surveillance court upends the central allegation in the memo released Friday by Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee.
But but but......consulting my talking points this morning...... "hate makes good people do bad things....or whatever"
And what's their second argument? Oh yeah, that the investigation was precipitated by Steele when we learned affirmatively yesterday that Papadopolous, who worked for the campaign, was already under surveillance.
And let's not forget that the administration claimed several times that Page didn't work for the campaign. Now suddenly Trump is a victim because a person who didn't work for the campaign was under surveillance? Well which one is it?
And which of these arguments is holding its ground? None of them.
The argument is that an initial FISA request (triggered because of Papadopoulos?) was rejected and yet a second FISA request (with the introduction of a misrepresented Steele dossier) was accepted. Also the claim that Page was not part of the campaign in any meaningful form is a real one along with the fact that Trump was a victim of surveillance due to that weak connection. This is the whole point... A misrepresented dossier was used to get a warrant on Page which was then abused by the NSA to get info on Trump. This is an abuse of power to spy on a political opponent. Why you all defend it is beyond me. You all have become everything you claim to hate. Character is destiny...
No, the campaign has said up to this point that Page was irrelevant to them. Now suddenly he is the keystone.
A misrepresented dossier was used to get a warrant on Page which was then abused by the NSA to get info on Trump
Where is there evidence of this statement? Are you saying that DJT was personally spied upon?
And you still haven't address why Gowdy, the one person in Congress who saw the warrant, is saying this doesn't impugn Mueller's investigation. Why would that be?
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The Juggler
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What a joke this memo was... now we can't say what classified information from it, but so far as I can tell it does nothing to damage Mueller's work. Even if you believe the letter of everything in here (including the overuse of adjectives and hyperbole), it comes NOWHERE near anything criminal in its accusations., And of course it unintentionally informs us that Papadopolous's mouth was the loose lip that started it all. No wonder BS and JC have gone radio silent.
I’m still here. Just watching everybody flail around for a little bit...
Flail? The only flail is Team Trump Treason and the fail is all Nunes. I do wonder how the Canadian intelligence services view these developments?
You realize that there is only a special council because Comey was fired don’t you? You also realize that Comey initiated a meeting to discuss the dossier with President Trump and withheld where that dossier came from? Do you think that is something the President should have been told? CNN reported on the existence of the meeting and Dossier the very next day. This is just one aspect of the corruption.
On FISA abuse...the origin of the dossier was not presented to the FISC judge. That is major unethical omission. The FBI used a news article from Isikoff as a second source to corroborate the dossier when that info was from Steele as well! That is a major misrepresentation to the court. Whether the investigation was intitated due to Papadopoulos is irrelevant to what the FBI brought to the FISC. The ability to spy on Page comes from the dossier...fruit of the poisonous tree.
Lastly...we haven’t even gotten to the next step which is what information was obtained, unmasked, and dessiminated because of this unethically obtained warrant.
We know that Mike Rogers informed Trump during the transition that Trump Tower was being monitored and the very next day they moved the transition team to New Jersey. It is all coming out.
and you flail...
Ha! Irrelevant! That's a nice change of tune lol
What’s the change? Papadopoulos is relevant to an investigation but irrelevant to the dossier being misrepresented to a judge. If the evidence was so damning then why lie to a judge? If the FBI was so certain of their case then they could have been honest with the judge and still obtained the FISA warrant. They weren’t honest though so we’ll never know. It’s all tainted and all those who participated will need to be removed in order to restore trust to the process. Hatred of Trump caused good people to do bad things.
oops.. reporting today says it was disclosed. . OOPS
That the officials disclosed the political nature of the dossier to the surveillance court upends the central allegation in the memo released Friday by Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee.
But but but......consulting my talking points this morning...... "hate makes good people do bad things....or whatever"
And what's their second argument? Oh yeah, that the investigation was precipitated by Steele when we learned affirmatively yesterday that Papadopolous, who worked for the campaign, was already under surveillance.
And let's not forget that the administration claimed several times that Page didn't work for the campaign. Now suddenly Trump is a victim because a person who didn't work for the campaign was under surveillance? Well which one is it?
And which of these arguments is holding its ground? None of them.
The argument is that an initial FISA request (triggered because of Papadopoulos?) was rejected and yet a second FISA request (with the introduction of a misrepresented Steele dossier) was accepted. Also the claim that Page was not part of the campaign in any meaningful form is a real one along with the fact that Trump was a victim of surveillance due to that weak connection. This is the whole point... A misrepresented dossier was used to get a warrant on Page which was then abused by the NSA to get info on Trump. This is an abuse of power to spy on a political opponent. Why you all defend it is beyond me. You all have become everything you claim to hate. Character is destiny...
Not part of the campaign. Ha
In Spring of 2016, Trump named only five people who was advising him in foreign affairs. Carter Page was one of them and so was Papadopoulus. WOOPS
What a joke this memo was... now we can't say what classified information from it, but so far as I can tell it does nothing to damage Mueller's work. Even if you believe the letter of everything in here (including the overuse of adjectives and hyperbole), it comes NOWHERE near anything criminal in its accusations., And of course it unintentionally informs us that Papadopolous's mouth was the loose lip that started it all. No wonder BS and JC have gone radio silent.
I’m still here. Just watching everybody flail around for a little bit...
Flail? The only flail is Team Trump Treason and the fail is all Nunes. I do wonder how the Canadian intelligence services view these developments?
You realize that there is only a special council because Comey was fired don’t you? You also realize that Comey initiated a meeting to discuss the dossier with President Trump and withheld where that dossier came from? Do you think that is something the President should have been told? CNN reported on the existence of the meeting and Dossier the very next day. This is just one aspect of the corruption.
On FISA abuse...the origin of the dossier was not presented to the FISC judge. That is major unethical omission. The FBI used a news article from Isikoff as a second source to corroborate the dossier when that info was from Steele as well! That is a major misrepresentation to the court. Whether the investigation was intitated due to Papadopoulos is irrelevant to what the FBI brought to the FISC. The ability to spy on Page comes from the dossier...fruit of the poisonous tree.
Lastly...we haven’t even gotten to the next step which is what information was obtained, unmasked, and dessiminated because of this unethically obtained warrant.
We know that Mike Rogers informed Trump during the transition that Trump Tower was being monitored and the very next day they moved the transition team to New Jersey. It is all coming out.
and you flail...
Ha! Irrelevant! That's a nice change of tune lol
What’s the change? Papadopoulos is relevant to an investigation but irrelevant to the dossier being misrepresented to a judge. If the evidence was so damning then why lie to a judge? If the FBI was so certain of their case then they could have been honest with the judge and still obtained the FISA warrant. They weren’t honest though so we’ll never know. It’s all tainted and all those who participated will need to be removed in order to restore trust to the process. Hatred of Trump caused good people to do bad things.
oops.. reporting today says it was disclosed. . OOPS
That the officials disclosed the political nature of the dossier to the surveillance court upends the central allegation in the memo released Friday by Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee.
But but but......consulting my talking points this morning...... "hate makes good people do bad things....or whatever"
Read the article closely. Other then that sentence the details are so poor. What about these sentences...
“The Justice Department MAY have told a court of the political origins of an opposition research dossier”
”...though they did not name Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign or the Democratic National Committee.”
So they “may” have told a court about the “political nature” but didn’t mention Hillary or the DNC?
What a joke...
You know who else wasn't told the source of Fusion's funding? Steele .
He compiled the whole dossier and went to the FBI independently.
And when he went to the FBI, their response was basically "yeah we know, we're already looking into it."
Ha. Who spoon fed you that? Glen simpson? Steele himself? Both have already been caught in lies.
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I have yet to hear anyone say the Steele dossier is fake, inaccurate or been proven as false .
I guess when you don't have an argument, attack and discredit the source, sad!
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Trump has been totally vindicated by the Nunes memo. The man is completely innocent, nobody has ever seen somebody so innocent in the history of the world.
Well guys, pack up your bags, it's time to go home.
Trump has been totally vindicated by the Nunes memo. The man is completely innocent, nobody has ever seen somebody so innocent in the history of the world.
Well guys, pack up your bags, it's time to go home.
Trump has been totally vindicated by the Nunes memo. The man is completely innocent, nobody has ever seen somebody so innocent in the history of the world.
Well guys, pack up your bags, it's time to go home.
Trump has been totally vindicated by the Nunes memo. The man is completely innocent, nobody has ever seen somebody so innocent in the history of the world.
Well guys, pack up your bags, it's time to go home.
Trump has been totally vindicated by the Nunes memo. The man is completely innocent, nobody has ever seen somebody so innocent in the history of the world.
Well guys, pack up your bags, it's time to go home.
Trump has been totally vindicated by the Nunes memo. The man is completely innocent, nobody has ever seen somebody so innocent in the history of the world.
Well guys, pack up your bags, it's time to go home.
Trump has been totally vindicated by the Nunes memo. The man is completely innocent, nobody has ever seen somebody so innocent in the history of the world.
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But but but......consulting my talking points this morning...... "hate makes good people do bad things....or whatever"
And it is about Nunes at this moment because this is at least the second major time he misused his chairmanship to serve as Trump's lap dog.
“The Justice Department MAY have told a court of the political origins of an opposition research dossier”
”...though they did not name Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign or the Democratic National Committee.”
So they “may” have told a court about the “political nature” but didn’t mention Hillary or the DNC?
What a joke...
And let's not forget that the administration claimed several times that Page didn't work for the campaign. Now suddenly Trump is a victim because a person who didn't work for the campaign was under surveillance? Well which one is it?
And which of these arguments is holding its ground? None of them.
I wonder if Nunes had any conversations with Carter Page he's worried about getting out?
He compiled the whole dossier and went to the FBI independently.
And when he went to the FBI, their response was basically "yeah we know, we're already looking into it."
Also the claim that Page was not part of the campaign in any meaningful form is a real one along with the fact that Trump was a victim of surveillance due to that weak connection. This is the whole point... A misrepresented dossier was used to get a warrant on Page which was then abused by the NSA to get info on Trump. This is an abuse of power to spy on a political opponent. Why you all defend it is beyond me. You all have become everything you claim to hate. Character is destiny...
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A misrepresented dossier was used to get a warrant on Page which was then abused by the NSA to get info on Trump
Where is there evidence of this statement? Are you saying that DJT was personally spied upon?
And you still haven't address why Gowdy, the one person in Congress who saw the warrant, is saying this doesn't impugn Mueller's investigation. Why would that be?
In Spring of 2016, Trump named only five people who was advising him in foreign affairs. Carter Page was one of them and so was Papadopoulus. WOOPS
I have yet to hear anyone say the Steele dossier is fake, inaccurate or been proven as false .
I guess when you don't have an argument, attack and discredit the source, sad!
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Trump has been totally vindicated by the Nunes memo. The man is completely innocent, nobody has ever seen somebody so innocent in the history of the world.
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