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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,760
    rgambs said:
    I can't even imagine the fallout this is creating in the world intelligence community.
    Will our allies even come close to trusting us ever again?  They now have to face down the proof that partisan politics in this country are jeopardising their assets in partnership with the US.
    They will run from us like running away from someone with the H1N1 virus who is coughing with mouth uncovered.  It makes me sick to see how low this country has fallen.  We could have been great but "great again" is the biggest of lies. 
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    There’s no truth to the rumor that Team Trump Treason has taken a crash course on civics and will announce on Monday a bipartisan commission to study the 4 Page Nunes memo. It’ll be named, “The Donald Trump Golden Bi-Partisan Commission To Understand The Meaning of The Nunes Memo.”
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,678
    It's hilarious that Nunes never saw the evidence.  Gowdy was the only one.  Yet Nunes's staff wrote the memo.  Strange,  eh?
    And then Gowdy tweets today this in no way discredits Mueller's investigation... 

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    mrussel1 said:
    It's hilarious that Nunes never saw the evidence.  Gowdy was the only one.  Yet Nunes's staff wrote the memo.  Strange,  eh?
    And then Gowdy tweets today this in no way discredits Mueller's investigation... 

    Comedy show...
    It’s called “plausible deniability.” Except Team Trump Treason has not a fucking clue.
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    Dear Professor,

    Please read the editorial in the NYT dated 02/02/2018, specifically the second column, first full paragraph. You might learn something.

    Sincerely,

    A flunked out, washed out, pretty dumb never student.
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,760
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    Does anyone, anyone at all, other than BS and 3D, have faith that these repubes, these tea party, Sarah palin morph into trumpsters, have a fuckin clue on how to run anything?Anything at all? Is Kellyanne on vacation?


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    BS44325 said:
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    my2hands said:
    Obama "tapped" my phones!!!

    bwahahahaha 

    The Obama administration and the Clinton Campaign weaponized the powers of government to spy on it’s political opponent. They did what you all said Bush would do. It is all coming to ahead. Bwahahahaha
    What you blatantly continue to ignore is the fact that Team Trump Treason’s interactions and communications with Russia, Russia, Russia was brought to our attention by friendly intelligence services before the Steele Dossier was even finished or known about. Now we also know that another memo written by an investigative journalist made many of the same claims as the Steele Dossier. Combined, three different sets of intel or claims, and there may be more as we don’t know what the Estonians, Australians and Czechs shared, made the basis for the FISA warrant. These facts don’t fit your narrative of the Obama Administration, an administration devoid of scandal, criminal investigations and indictments for a period of two full terms, trying to overturn an election. Thus far, you have been wrong on every claim you’ve made regarding Team Trump Treason and “nothing to hide” or there was “no collusion.” How stupid do you think we are? Funny you bring up Strzok, the guy who wrote the memo that reopened the Hillary email investigation just before Election Day and most definitely contributed to Hillary’s loss, along with an assist from Russia, Russia, Russia. Again, how dumb or stupid do you think we are?
    Pretty dumb
    That’s all you got? Keep going down the rabbit hole Professor. It’s comical to read your ever changing narrative of spin. You should immigrate and run for Congress. California ‘s 22nd congressional district needs a candidate.
    Ha. Everything you post is one giant russian rabbit hole. I am starting to feel bad for you!
    Are you denying what’s been reported and the existence of the Mueller investigation, Professor? Are you denying the facts that we know today that we didn’t know 12-18 months ago?
    There is an investigation. There have been indictments that do not pertain to “Russia” at all. The only new facts other then that pertain to an abuse of government power to spy on a candidate and hamstring in incoming administration. Do you think the sentencing of Flynn is being delayed because he is flipping on Trump? The far more likely scenerio is that Mueller has discovered that the evidence he was indicted on was tainted by a corrupted FBI and NSA. Strozk, McCabe and even the judge presiding over that case have all coincidentally been removed from that case. Don’t fear Mueller getting fired...fear him discovering the truth.
    Say again? 
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    The shits gonna hit the fan today! I’m kinda excited.
    Did it splatter? Or backfire? Or just steam and deflate? Maybe grow mushrooms? Or morels? Nah, not those!
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    Wait and see? Kind of like bitcoin? Wait and see? Or kind of like the Steele Dossier is like war and peace. Missing chapters. Malleable. To suit your narrative when your confused. Distracted. Not sure what your talking points are? 3D and BS must be feeling like a Colt on the sidelines looking in wondering and hoping for a hero? And never quite grasping the brass ring.
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    mrussel1 said:
    What a joke this memo was... now we can't say what classified information from it, but so far as I can tell it does nothing to damage Mueller's work.  Even if you believe the letter of everything in here (including the overuse of adjectives and hyperbole), it comes NOWHERE near anything criminal in its accusations.,  And of course it unintentionally informs us that Papadopolous's mouth was the loose lip that started it all.  
    No wonder BS and JC have gone radio silent.  
    I’m still here. Just watching everybody flail around for a little bit...
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,315
    Can’t wait for the “sources say Trump is fuming because the memo didn’t play out nearly as well as he had hoped” story to come out. You know it’s coming. 


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    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    What a joke this memo was... now we can't say what classified information from it, but so far as I can tell it does nothing to damage Mueller's work.  Even if you believe the letter of everything in here (including the overuse of adjectives and hyperbole), it comes NOWHERE near anything criminal in its accusations.,  And of course it unintentionally informs us that Papadopolous's mouth was the loose lip that started it all.  
    No wonder BS and JC have gone radio silent.  
    I’m still here. Just watching everybody flail around for a little bit...
    Flail? The only flail is Team Trump Treason and the fail is all Nunes. I do wonder how the Canadian intelligence services view these developments? 
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    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    What a joke this memo was... now we can't say what classified information from it, but so far as I can tell it does nothing to damage Mueller's work.  Even if you believe the letter of everything in here (including the overuse of adjectives and hyperbole), it comes NOWHERE near anything criminal in its accusations.,  And of course it unintentionally informs us that Papadopolous's mouth was the loose lip that started it all.  
    No wonder BS and JC have gone radio silent.  
    I’m still here. Just watching everybody flail around for a little bit...
    Flail? The only flail is Team Trump Treason and the fail is all Nunes. I do wonder how the Canadian intelligence services view these developments? 
    You realize that there is only a special council because Comey was fired don’t you? You also realize that Comey initiated a meeting to discuss the dossier with President Trump and withheld where that dossier came from? Do you think that is something the President should have been told? CNN reported on the existence of the meeting and Dossier the very next day. This is just one aspect of the corruption.

    On FISA abuse...the origin of the dossier was not presented to the FISC judge. That is major unethical omission. The FBI used a news article from Isikoff as a second source to corroborate the dossier when that info was from Steele as well! That is a major misrepresentation to the court. Whether the investigation was intitated due to Papadopoulos is irrelevant to what the FBI brought to the FISC. The ability to spy on Page comes from the dossier...fruit of the poisonous tree.

    Lastly...we haven’t even gotten to the next step which is what information was obtained, unmasked, and dessiminated because of this unethically obtained warrant.

    We know that Mike Rogers informed Trump during the transition that Trump Tower was being monitored and the very next day they moved the transition team to New Jersey. It is all coming out.

    and you flail...
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    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    What a joke this memo was... now we can't say what classified information from it, but so far as I can tell it does nothing to damage Mueller's work.  Even if you believe the letter of everything in here (including the overuse of adjectives and hyperbole), it comes NOWHERE near anything criminal in its accusations.,  And of course it unintentionally informs us that Papadopolous's mouth was the loose lip that started it all.  
    No wonder BS and JC have gone radio silent.  
    I’m still here. Just watching everybody flail around for a little bit...
    Flail? The only flail is Team Trump Treason and the fail is all Nunes. I do wonder how the Canadian intelligence services view these developments? 
    You realize that there is only a special council because Comey was fired don’t you? You also realize that Comey initiated a meeting to discuss the dossier with President Trump and withheld where that dossier came from? Do you think that is something the President should have been told? CNN reported on the existence of the meeting and Dossier the very next day. This is just one aspect of the corruption.

    On FISA abuse...the origin of the dossier was not presented to the FISC judge. That is major unethical omission. The FBI used a news article from Isikoff as a second source to corroborate the dossier when that info was from Steele as well! That is a major misrepresentation to the court. Whether the investigation was intitated due to Papadopoulos is irrelevant to what the FBI brought to the FISC. The ability to spy on Page comes from the dossier...fruit of the poisonous tree.

    Lastly...we haven’t even gotten to the next step which is what information was obtained, unmasked, and dessiminated because of this unethically obtained warrant.

    We know that Mike Rogers informed Trump during the transition that Trump Tower was being monitored and the very next day they moved the transition team to New Jersey. It is all coming out.

    and you flail...
    Only in your delusional conspiracy theory of a rabbit hole mind. Please, learn how the FISA court works. Take off your blinders. Stop reading and listening to only one sided news sources. Listen to and comprehend what the intelligence and legal experts are saying. Stop being complicit in the obstruction of justice and cover up of Team Trump Treason. It’s unbecoming.
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    Are you alleging that Team Trump Treason didn’t know of the Steele Dossier until after he met with Comey, Professor?
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    Flail at this with your wet dish rag Professor.

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    Are you alleging that Team Trump Treason didn’t know of the Steele Dossier until after he met with Comey, Professor?
    I am not alleging. This is what has been reported.

    https://www.google.ca/amp/thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/314105-fbi-director-comey-briefed-donald-trump-on-dossier-cnn-reports%3famp

    What we now know is that Comey was aware it was Democratic funded opposition research. The FBI was aware that it was Democratic funded opposition research. They withheld this fact from the President. They withheld this fact from the media after the dossier coveniently leaked.

    It was all a hit job from top to bottom. Hatred of Trump caused good people to do bad things.
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    What a joke this memo was... now we can't say what classified information from it, but so far as I can tell it does nothing to damage Mueller's work.  Even if you believe the letter of everything in here (including the overuse of adjectives and hyperbole), it comes NOWHERE near anything criminal in its accusations.,  And of course it unintentionally informs us that Papadopolous's mouth was the loose lip that started it all.  
    No wonder BS and JC have gone radio silent.  
    I’m still here. Just watching everybody flail around for a little bit...
    Flail? The only flail is Team Trump Treason and the fail is all Nunes. I do wonder how the Canadian intelligence services view these developments? 
    You realize that there is only a special council because Comey was fired don’t you? You also realize that Comey initiated a meeting to discuss the dossier with President Trump and withheld where that dossier came from? Do you think that is something the President should have been told? CNN reported on the existence of the meeting and Dossier the very next day. This is just one aspect of the corruption.

    On FISA abuse...the origin of the dossier was not presented to the FISC judge. That is major unethical omission. The FBI used a news article from Isikoff as a second source to corroborate the dossier when that info was from Steele as well! That is a major misrepresentation to the court. Whether the investigation was intitated due to Papadopoulos is irrelevant to what the FBI brought to the FISC. The ability to spy on Page comes from the dossier...fruit of the poisonous tree.

    Lastly...we haven’t even gotten to the next step which is what information was obtained, unmasked, and dessiminated because of this unethically obtained warrant.

    We know that Mike Rogers informed Trump during the transition that Trump Tower was being monitored and the very next day they moved the transition team to New Jersey. It is all coming out.

    and you flail...
    Only in your delusional conspiracy theory of a rabbit hole mind. Please, learn how the FISA court works. Take off your blinders. Stop reading and listening to only one sided news sources. Listen to and comprehend what the intelligence and legal experts are saying. Stop being complicit in the obstruction of justice and cover up of Team Trump Treason. It’s unbecoming.
    It is very clear how FISC works. I have posted about it many times. Months ago I suggested that the dossier was misrepresented to the court. That has proven to be fact. Hatred of Trump caused good people to do bad things.
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    “They moved to New Jersey.” Did they met up with Tony Soprano? Take a ride out to the Barrens? If you missed it, check out Bill Maher’s episode from last night. Scrotumitchy was in rare form. Instant classic.
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    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    What a joke this memo was... now we can't say what classified information from it, but so far as I can tell it does nothing to damage Mueller's work.  Even if you believe the letter of everything in here (including the overuse of adjectives and hyperbole), it comes NOWHERE near anything criminal in its accusations.,  And of course it unintentionally informs us that Papadopolous's mouth was the loose lip that started it all.  
    No wonder BS and JC have gone radio silent.  
    I’m still here. Just watching everybody flail around for a little bit...
    Flail? The only flail is Team Trump Treason and the fail is all Nunes. I do wonder how the Canadian intelligence services view these developments? 
    You realize that there is only a special council because Comey was fired don’t you? You also realize that Comey initiated a meeting to discuss the dossier with President Trump and withheld where that dossier came from? Do you think that is something the President should have been told? CNN reported on the existence of the meeting and Dossier the very next day. This is just one aspect of the corruption.

    On FISA abuse...the origin of the dossier was not presented to the FISC judge. That is major unethical omission. The FBI used a news article from Isikoff as a second source to corroborate the dossier when that info was from Steele as well! That is a major misrepresentation to the court. Whether the investigation was intitated due to Papadopoulos is irrelevant to what the FBI brought to the FISC. The ability to spy on Page comes from the dossier...fruit of the poisonous tree.

    Lastly...we haven’t even gotten to the next step which is what information was obtained, unmasked, and dessiminated because of this unethically obtained warrant.

    We know that Mike Rogers informed Trump during the transition that Trump Tower was being monitored and the very next day they moved the transition team to New Jersey. It is all coming out.

    and you flail...
    Ha!  Irrelevant!   That's a nice change of tune lol
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    “They moved to New Jersey.” Did they met up with Tony Soprano? Take a ride out to the Barrens? If you missed it, check out Bill Maher’s episode from last night. Scrotumitchy was in rare form. Instant classic.
    Yes... they moved to Bedminister New Jersey right after this

    https://www.npr.org/2016/11/22/502980006/reports-suggest-nsa-director-mike-rogers-is-on-his-way-out

    The full story is laid out for you here

    http://usdefensewatch.com/2017/03/did-nsa-director-admiral-mike-rogers-warn-trump-about-eavesdropping/

    Even your favourite Politico discussed the possibility of spying

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-team-surveillance-obama-236410

    All of this generated by democratic opposition research which was then laundered by the FBI into an intelligence product that was misrepresented to FISC.

    Hatred of Trump caused good people to do bad things.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,678
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    What a joke this memo was... now we can't say what classified information from it, but so far as I can tell it does nothing to damage Mueller's work.  Even if you believe the letter of everything in here (including the overuse of adjectives and hyperbole), it comes NOWHERE near anything criminal in its accusations.,  And of course it unintentionally informs us that Papadopolous's mouth was the loose lip that started it all.  
    No wonder BS and JC have gone radio silent.  
    I’m still here. Just watching everybody flail around for a little bit...
    Flail? The only flail is Team Trump Treason and the fail is all Nunes. I do wonder how the Canadian intelligence services view these developments? 
    You realize that there is only a special council because Comey was fired don’t you? You also realize that Comey initiated a meeting to discuss the dossier with President Trump and withheld where that dossier came from? Do you think that is something the President should have been told? CNN reported on the existence of the meeting and Dossier the very next day. This is just one aspect of the corruption.

    On FISA abuse...the origin of the dossier was not presented to the FISC judge. That is major unethical omission. The FBI used a news article from Isikoff as a second source to corroborate the dossier when that info was from Steele as well! That is a major misrepresentation to the court. Whether the investigation was intitated due to Papadopoulos is irrelevant to what the FBI brought to the FISC. The ability to spy on Page comes from the dossier...fruit of the poisonous tree.

    Lastly...we haven’t even gotten to the next step which is what information was obtained, unmasked, and dessiminated because of this unethically obtained warrant.

    We know that Mike Rogers informed Trump during the transition that Trump Tower was being monitored and the very next day they moved the transition team to New Jersey. It is all coming out.

    and you flail...
    Only in your delusional conspiracy theory of a rabbit hole mind. Please, learn how the FISA court works. Take off your blinders. Stop reading and listening to only one sided news sources. Listen to and comprehend what the intelligence and legal experts are saying. Stop being complicit in the obstruction of justice and cover up of Team Trump Treason. It’s unbecoming.
    It is very clear how FISC works. I have posted about it many times. Months ago I suggested that the dossier was misrepresented to the court. That has proven to be fact. Hatred of Trump caused good people to do bad things.
    The origin doesn't make it untrue or unlikely to be true.  Steele was a well known asset to the FBI. Law enforcement uses much shadier informants every day.  

    Second, the #memo notes that the dossier was an "essential" part of the warrant.  That's a clever word.  It's not the same as "primary" nor "only".  My left thumb is essential to my manual dexterity,  but I don't cease to function without it.  

    Third,  Trey Gowdy , the one person who saw the application,  emphasized that this doesn't affect Mueller's work at all.  

    This was all another Nunes distraction. 
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    rgambs said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    What a joke this memo was... now we can't say what classified information from it, but so far as I can tell it does nothing to damage Mueller's work.  Even if you believe the letter of everything in here (including the overuse of adjectives and hyperbole), it comes NOWHERE near anything criminal in its accusations.,  And of course it unintentionally informs us that Papadopolous's mouth was the loose lip that started it all.  
    No wonder BS and JC have gone radio silent.  
    I’m still here. Just watching everybody flail around for a little bit...
    Flail? The only flail is Team Trump Treason and the fail is all Nunes. I do wonder how the Canadian intelligence services view these developments? 
    You realize that there is only a special council because Comey was fired don’t you? You also realize that Comey initiated a meeting to discuss the dossier with President Trump and withheld where that dossier came from? Do you think that is something the President should have been told? CNN reported on the existence of the meeting and Dossier the very next day. This is just one aspect of the corruption.

    On FISA abuse...the origin of the dossier was not presented to the FISC judge. That is major unethical omission. The FBI used a news article from Isikoff as a second source to corroborate the dossier when that info was from Steele as well! That is a major misrepresentation to the court. Whether the investigation was intitated due to Papadopoulos is irrelevant to what the FBI brought to the FISC. The ability to spy on Page comes from the dossier...fruit of the poisonous tree.

    Lastly...we haven’t even gotten to the next step which is what information was obtained, unmasked, and dessiminated because of this unethically obtained warrant.

    We know that Mike Rogers informed Trump during the transition that Trump Tower was being monitored and the very next day they moved the transition team to New Jersey. It is all coming out.

    and you flail...
    Ha!  Irrelevant!   That's a nice change of tune lol
    What’s the change? Papadopoulos is relevant to an investigation but irrelevant to the dossier being misrepresented to a judge. If the evidence was so damning then why lie to a judge? If the FBI was so certain of their case then they could have been honest with the judge and still obtained the FISA warrant. They weren’t honest though so we’ll never know. It’s all tainted and all those who participated will need to be removed in order to restore trust to the process. Hatred of Trump caused good people to do bad things.
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    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    What a joke this memo was... now we can't say what classified information from it, but so far as I can tell it does nothing to damage Mueller's work.  Even if you believe the letter of everything in here (including the overuse of adjectives and hyperbole), it comes NOWHERE near anything criminal in its accusations.,  And of course it unintentionally informs us that Papadopolous's mouth was the loose lip that started it all.  
    No wonder BS and JC have gone radio silent.  
    I’m still here. Just watching everybody flail around for a little bit...
    Flail? The only flail is Team Trump Treason and the fail is all Nunes. I do wonder how the Canadian intelligence services view these developments? 

    On FISA abuse...the origin of the dossier was not presented to the FISC judge. That is major unethical omission. The FBI used a news article from Isikoff as a second source to corroborate the dossier when that info was from Steele as well! That is a major misrepresentation to the court. Whether the investigation was intitated due to Papadopoulos is irrelevant to what the FBI brought to the FISC. The ability to spy on Page comes from the dossier...fruit of the poisonous tree.


    Wow, you bought that memo hook, line and sinker. Common sense be damned.

    Love of Trump causes good people to ignore their brains.
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    BS44325 said:
    rgambs said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    What a joke this memo was... now we can't say what classified information from it, but so far as I can tell it does nothing to damage Mueller's work.  Even if you believe the letter of everything in here (including the overuse of adjectives and hyperbole), it comes NOWHERE near anything criminal in its accusations.,  And of course it unintentionally informs us that Papadopolous's mouth was the loose lip that started it all.  
    No wonder BS and JC have gone radio silent.  
    I’m still here. Just watching everybody flail around for a little bit...
    Flail? The only flail is Team Trump Treason and the fail is all Nunes. I do wonder how the Canadian intelligence services view these developments? 
    You realize that there is only a special council because Comey was fired don’t you? You also realize that Comey initiated a meeting to discuss the dossier with President Trump and withheld where that dossier came from? Do you think that is something the President should have been told? CNN reported on the existence of the meeting and Dossier the very next day. This is just one aspect of the corruption.

    On FISA abuse...the origin of the dossier was not presented to the FISC judge. That is major unethical omission. The FBI used a news article from Isikoff as a second source to corroborate the dossier when that info was from Steele as well! That is a major misrepresentation to the court. Whether the investigation was intitated due to Papadopoulos is irrelevant to what the FBI brought to the FISC. The ability to spy on Page comes from the dossier...fruit of the poisonous tree.

    Lastly...we haven’t even gotten to the next step which is what information was obtained, unmasked, and dessiminated because of this unethically obtained warrant.

    We know that Mike Rogers informed Trump during the transition that Trump Tower was being monitored and the very next day they moved the transition team to New Jersey. It is all coming out.

    and you flail...
    Ha!  Irrelevant!   That's a nice change of tune lol
    What’s the change? Papadopoulos is relevant to an investigation but irrelevant to the dossier being misrepresented to a judge. If the evidence was so damning then why lie to a judge? If the FBI was so certain of their case then they could have been honest with the judge and still obtained the FISA warrant. They weren’t honest though so we’ll never know. It’s all tainted and all those who participated will need to be removed in order to restore trust to the process. Hatred of Trump caused good people to do bad things.
    oops.. reporting today says it was disclosed. . OOPS

    http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/372134-officials-disclosed-sources-political-funding-in-fisa-application
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,249
    edited February 2018
    Just another crooked FBI agent, right? I'm sure the intelligence community won't suffer from this at all because, you know, draining the swamp :dizzy:

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/02/02/opinion/leaving-the-fbi.html?referer=https://www.google.com/
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    edited February 2018
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    rgambs said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    What a joke this memo was... now we can't say what classified information from it, but so far as I can tell it does nothing to damage Mueller's work.  Even if you believe the letter of everything in here (including the overuse of adjectives and hyperbole), it comes NOWHERE near anything criminal in its accusations.,  And of course it unintentionally informs us that Papadopolous's mouth was the loose lip that started it all.  
    No wonder BS and JC have gone radio silent.  
    I’m still here. Just watching everybody flail around for a little bit...
    Flail? The only flail is Team Trump Treason and the fail is all Nunes. I do wonder how the Canadian intelligence services view these developments? 
    You realize that there is only a special council because Comey was fired don’t you? You also realize that Comey initiated a meeting to discuss the dossier with President Trump and withheld where that dossier came from? Do you think that is something the President should have been told? CNN reported on the existence of the meeting and Dossier the very next day. This is just one aspect of the corruption.

    On FISA abuse...the origin of the dossier was not presented to the FISC judge. That is major unethical omission. The FBI used a news article from Isikoff as a second source to corroborate the dossier when that info was from Steele as well! That is a major misrepresentation to the court. Whether the investigation was intitated due to Papadopoulos is irrelevant to what the FBI brought to the FISC. The ability to spy on Page comes from the dossier...fruit of the poisonous tree.

    Lastly...we haven’t even gotten to the next step which is what information was obtained, unmasked, and dessiminated because of this unethically obtained warrant.

    We know that Mike Rogers informed Trump during the transition that Trump Tower was being monitored and the very next day they moved the transition team to New Jersey. It is all coming out.

    and you flail...
    Ha!  Irrelevant!   That's a nice change of tune lol
    What’s the change? Papadopoulos is relevant to an investigation but irrelevant to the dossier being misrepresented to a judge. If the evidence was so damning then why lie to a judge? If the FBI was so certain of their case then they could have been honest with the judge and still obtained the FISA warrant. They weren’t honest though so we’ll never know. It’s all tainted and all those who participated will need to be removed in order to restore trust to the process. Hatred of Trump caused good people to do bad things.
    oops.. reporting today says it was disclosed. . OOPS

    http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/372134-officials-disclosed-sources-political-funding-in-fisa-application
    Yes. Interesting that. So you know what this means? The entire FISA application will have to be disclosed to find out who is telling the truth. While we’re at it they should release the first FISA application that was initially denied. What changed between the two applications? Was it the dossier? Was it the Isikoff article sourced by Steele? Bring on the transparency! We already know that releasing the memo didn’t damage national security as per the democrats claims so let them release everything. Clearly you all want to know.

    *The first two paragraphs of that Hill article hardly confirm your claims. A lot of caveats in there.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,678
    Hey @BS44325 might I suggest taking the advice of President Bush, as it relates to believing Nunes?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A
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