Donald Trump

mrussel1

Go Beavers said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Remember that time when Trump said he knew more than all his generals? Remember that? Not having served an hour of active duty and he made that claim, remember that? Would you follow him into battle if you'd spent your lifetime working your way up the chain of command and having survived combat? Would you even respect him?

I think enough people fought in Iraq knowing how bullshit that war was, but did it anyway out of their sworn duty to uphold the orders of the CIC. 

The Iraq war was not the same as nuclear war, nor is Bush comparable to Trump as a leader.

I wasn't saying that. I'm saying that people in the military follow orders. 

And that's by design.  Civilian leadership of the military was a new and novel concept in 1783 and really separated us from the world.  It's one of the controls built into the gov't.  We are lucky the military has never tried a coup.  

I've always felt that the military has had such a overbearing presence in the White House that there's no real point to a military coup.  

That's an argument for sure... 

mrussel1

Hey look, the National Review is using my word to describe certain people on the boards!  Anyone know any Leninists?

Consider the departure of Stephen Bannon from the White House. Contrary to a lot of punditry, it is unlikely that the White House will become less gonzo with his absence. (The president sets the tempo for this administration.) But it is almost surely true that the climate outside of the White House will get more absurd with Bannon back at Breitbart.com. Bannon has boasted that he is a “Leninist.” Like so much of what Bannon says, that’s hyperbole, but he does share with the Soviet revolutionary a worldview of “the worse, the better.” Bannon believes that racial anxiety, populist fervor, and widespread resentment help his cause.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/450721/trump-impeachment-politics-new-normal

PJ_Soul

mrussel1 said:

Hey look, the National Review is using my word to describe certain people on the boards!  Anyone know any Leninists?

Consider the departure of Stephen Bannon from the White House. Contrary to a lot of punditry, it is unlikely that the White House will become less gonzo with his absence. (The president sets the tempo for this administration.) But it is almost surely true that the climate outside of the White House will get more absurd with Bannon back at Breitbart.com. Bannon has boasted that he is a “Leninist.” Like so much of what Bannon says, that’s hyperbole, but he does share with the Soviet revolutionary a worldview of “the worse, the better.” Bannon believes that racial anxiety, populist fervor, and widespread resentment help his cause.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/450721/trump-impeachment-politics-new-normal

I agree with this. I personally felt very concerned about Bannon being in the White House, but I didn't feel any better about things when he left it either. Bannon is dangerous either way now that he got his foot in that door.

Halifax2TheMax

HughFreakingDillon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Remember that time when Trump said he knew more than all his generals? Remember that? Not having served an hour of active duty and he made that claim, remember that? Would you follow him into battle if you'd spent your lifetime working your way up the chain of command and having survived combat? Would you even respect him?

I think enough people fought in Iraq knowing how bullshit that war was, but did it anyway out of their sworn duty to uphold the orders of the CIC. 

Particularly all of those National Guard and reserve folks who signed up thinking they'd be the brunt of an invasion force after being sold on the theory that the National Guard and reserves only get called into active duty when there's a national emergency or America's security is at risk. And at least Bush learned how to fly a jet, even if it wasn't in combat and as president never disparaged those who served below him. Night and day.

OnWis97

Just because I find it amusing...
...http://nbc4i.com/2017/08/22/mcdonalds-kiosk-used-to-order-a-nothing-burger/

JC29856

I read the script from last nights rally, I watched the end. It seems to me he is the same Trump that campaigned and the same Trump that was D-E-M-O-C-R-A-T-I-C-A-L-L-Y elected.
Last night he went off script, went after the media, our political systems, the democrats, the republicans (some specifically) and even his staff! He doubled down on his Charlottesville response, the wall, he said the repeal and replace fight isn't over, tax reform bragged about jobs, blah blah.
If you're expecting a change in delivery or demeanor from campaign Trump, president elect Trump or first 100 days Trump, forget it, not happening. Last night couldn't have been any more clearer that he isn't changing. Get used to it, get over it and move on to more important subjects topics that actually matter, ignore the superficial.   

PJfanwillneverleave1

JC29856 said:

I read the script from last nights rally, I watched the end. It seems to me he is the same Trump that campaigned and the same Trump that was D-E-M-O-C-R-A-T-I-C-A-L-L-Y elected.
Last night he went off script, went after the media, our political systems, the democrats, the republicans (some specifically) and even his staff! He doubled down on his Charlottesville response, the wall, he said the repeal and replace fight isn't over, tax reform bragged about jobs, blah blah.
If you're expecting a change in delivery or demeanor from campaign Trump, president elect Trump or first 100 days Trump, forget it, not happening. Last night couldn't have been any more clearer that he isn't changing. Get used to it, get over it and move on to more important subjects topics that actually matter, ignore the superficial.   

But, but..but...Nazis

PJfanwillneverleave1

OnWis97 said:

Just because I find it amusing...
...http://nbc4i.com/2017/08/22/mcdonalds-kiosk-used-to-order-a-nothing-burger/

:rofl  I am doing this tomorrow.

PJ_Soul

JC29856 said:

I read the script from last nights rally, I watched the end. It seems to me he is the same Trump that campaigned and the same Trump that was D-E-M-O-C-R-A-T-I-C-A-L-L-Y elected.
Last night he went off script, went after the media, our political systems, the democrats, the republicans (some specifically) and even his staff! He doubled down on his Charlottesville response, the wall, he said the repeal and replace fight isn't over, tax reform bragged about jobs, blah blah.
If you're expecting a change in delivery or demeanor from campaign Trump, president elect Trump or first 100 days Trump, forget it, not happening. Last night couldn't have been any more clearer that he isn't changing. Get used to it, get over it and move on to more important subjects topics that actually matter, ignore the superficial.   

I don't think anyone is expecting him to change. If anything, most people expect him to get progressively worse. Where'd you get the idea that anyone is expecting him to improve at this point?? But what really stands out is that you're trying to make us believe that you think a valid option is to "get used to it, get over it, and move on to more important topics that actually matter", and think this is just superficial stuff. You're just trolling.

JC29856

PJ_Soul said:

JC29856 said:

I read the script from last nights rally, I watched the end. It seems to me he is the same Trump that campaigned and the same Trump that was D-E-M-O-C-R-A-T-I-C-A-L-L-Y elected.
Last night he went off script, went after the media, our political systems, the democrats, the republicans (some specifically) and even his staff! He doubled down on his Charlottesville response, the wall, he said the repeal and replace fight isn't over, tax reform bragged about jobs, blah blah.
If you're expecting a change in delivery or demeanor from campaign Trump, president elect Trump or first 100 days Trump, forget it, not happening. Last night couldn't have been any more clearer that he isn't changing. Get used to it, get over it and move on to more important subjects topics that actually matter, ignore the superficial.   

I don't think anyone is expecting him to change. If anything, most people expect him to get progressively worse. Where'd you get the idea that anyone is expecting him to improve at this point?? But what really stands out is that you're trying to make us believe that you think a valid option is to "get used to it, get over it, and move on to more important topics that actually matter", and think this is just superficial stuff. You're just trolling.

  I watched post rally cable news last night but other than that I'll quote some post from this thread.

JC29856

Tiki said:

It's time to take the keys away from grandpa.

#1

JC29856

The Juggler said:

OnWis97 said:

The Juggler said:

Train wreck. 

Its almost as if he wants to sabotage his own presidency. 

It seemed that way with his campaign at times, too.  I think this is just how he is and how he's going to handle himself for the duration, be it next year or January, 2025.

.....and it's also why nothing has and will get done. Most members of congress don't want to associate themselves with a president who has historically low approval ratings and who constantly bullies them. That's what's different about now and the campaign. The president is too stupid to understand this simple concept. 

#2

PJfanwillneverleave1

President Trump responded to the post rally cable news when he tweeted....

Last night in Phoenix I read the things from my statements on Charlottesville that the Fake News Media didn't cover fairly. People got it!

JC29856

mfc2006 said:

What in the flying FUCK was that shitshow???

fucking worthless Trump, that's what.

#3

JC29856

Wobbie said:

fucking embarrassment to have this clown standing behind the presidential seal.

#4

JC29856

Halifax2TheMax said:

You're witnessing the unhinging of a president. They'll wheel him out as he babbles and drools.

#5

PJfanwillneverleave1

I don't disagree with this tweet from President Trump either.....

If Republican Senate doesn't get rid of the Filibuster Rule & go to a simple majority, which the Dems would do, they are just wasting time! As long as we have faith in each other and confidence in our values, then there is no challenge too great for us to conquer!

Halifax2TheMax

JC29856 said:

I read the script from last nights rally, I watched the end. It seems to me he is the same Trump that campaigned and the same Trump that was D-E-M-O-C-R-A-T-I-C-A-L-L-Y elected.
Last night he went off script, went after the media, our political systems, the democrats, the republicans (some specifically) and even his staff! He doubled down on his Charlottesville response, the wall, he said the repeal and replace fight isn't over, tax reform bragged about jobs, blah blah.
If you're expecting a change in delivery or demeanor from campaign Trump, president elect Trump or first 100 days Trump, forget it, not happening. Last night couldn't have been any more clearer that he isn't changing. Get used to it, get over it and move on to more important subjects topics that actually matter, ignore the superficial.   

Like the Mueller investigation. There's a reason Trump berated McConnell for not "protecting" him from the investigation. 

Halifax2TheMax

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

JC29856 said:

I read the script from last nights rally, I watched the end. It seems to me he is the same Trump that campaigned and the same Trump that was D-E-M-O-C-R-A-T-I-C-A-L-L-Y elected.
Last night he went off script, went after the media, our political systems, the democrats, the republicans (some specifically) and even his staff! He doubled down on his Charlottesville response, the wall, he said the repeal and replace fight isn't over, tax reform bragged about jobs, blah blah.
If you're expecting a change in delivery or demeanor from campaign Trump, president elect Trump or first 100 days Trump, forget it, not happening. Last night couldn't have been any more clearer that he isn't changing. Get used to it, get over it and move on to more important subjects topics that actually matter, ignore the superficial.   

But, but..but...Nazis

But, but, but, obstruction of justice, violation of FICA, money laundering, tax evasion, colluding with a hostile, foreign power............PTAPE.

mrussel1

JC29856 said:

I read the script from last nights rally, I watched the end. It seems to me he is the same Trump that campaigned and the same Trump that was D-E-M-O-C-R-A-T-I-C-A-L-L-Y elected.
Last night he went off script, went after the media, our political systems, the democrats, the republicans (some specifically) and even his staff! He doubled down on his Charlottesville response, the wall, he said the repeal and replace fight isn't over, tax reform bragged about jobs, blah blah.
If you're expecting a change in delivery or demeanor from campaign Trump, president elect Trump or first 100 days Trump, forget it, not happening. Last night couldn't have been any more clearer that he isn't changing. Get used to it, get over it and move on to more important subjects topics that actually matter, ignore the superficial.   

Sounds like a true progressive, not someone who did some vote swapping to cast theirs for Trump.