It took well over 24 hrs for Orange bafoon to denounce all the hate groups involved in weekends marches ! Please tell me what was more important in his vacation plans then to denounce the murder of an American citizen by a racist group ...
Too little and way too late. Fuck Trump and his nonstop bullshit.
You guys don't think that after that condemnation speech has altered your perception of him a little? I think it was a very great thing doing that. Calling out those hate groups.
No, doesn't change my perception of him at all. If anything, it's worse (if that is even possible). He showed his usual true self with his first statement. The only reason he made the second one was because he realized that his real statement caused a lot more backlash than his dimwitted brain could conceive at the time. it was damage control, pure and simple. Trump is WAAAAAAY beyond the point of redemption at this point.
But you guys wanted/needed him to call out the despicable evil and he did. How is that not redemption?
Everyone has already answered this question.
I'm just asking you specifically. The speech today was it bullshit or not?
I also already answered.
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It took well over 24 hrs for Orange bafoon to denounce all the hate groups involved in weekends marches ! Please tell me what was more important in his vacation plans then to denounce the murder of an American citizen by a racist group ...
How about having the family of the citizen time to grieve before the political shitstorm ensued her story.
^^^ I think instead of making an immediate off the hip speech right after the tragic event happened would have been lost on so many. No one cares what a politician says during an extreme time of hate/mourning/pain. After a few days for everything to sink in and emotions a little ( I say a little) less heated the people who the message was intended for were in a better position to receive it. You can't react to everything at every second and expect your message to be heard. It's like people that constantly post in one thread. Eventually people don't read them. So to answer no I don't think it was damage control.
that's a great point!
how is that a great point? his comments 2 days apart contradict each other. the first was obviously from his puny brain, the second was probably written by Ivanka.
I don't ever recall a sitting president saying nothing about a major event to "let the events sink in".
I think a politician talking a day or two after the event is a ok. I mean fdr waited until december 8th.
fair. but what about the "both sides" comment?
Did you not see the video footage of the protesters attacking the supremacists?
I was wondering where the police presence was.
about 10 minutes ago watching CNN. I didn't honestly see any instigation from either side, all they showed was brawling that had already started. white supremacists punching women. how nice.
Brooke interviewed the former police chief of Charlottesville, and he said, while he is not in the know, so everything he says is pure speculation, he was confused as to why the protesters and anti-protesters weren't separated to begin with, and how a car was allowed on the premises at ALL, knowing how much pedestrian traffic there would be.
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It took well over 24 hrs for Orange bafoon to denounce all the hate groups involved in weekends marches ! Please tell me what was more important in his vacation plans then to denounce the murder of an American citizen by a racist group ...
How about having the family of the citizen time to grieve before the political shitstorm ensued her story.
It took well over 24 hrs for Orange bafoon to denounce all the hate groups involved in weekends marches ! Please tell me what was more important in his vacation plans then to denounce the murder of an American citizen by a racist group ...
Just throwing this out there. When an incident happened here when Obama was president people crucified him for not calling it "radical Islam" when a Muslim carried out an act.
Where in Europe when an incident happened they labeled it a "radical Islam attack"
Not that this was a Muslim/Islam matter but I can see it the same way as Trump not calling it out for what it was right away.
It took well over 24 hrs for Orange bafoon to denounce all the hate groups involved in weekends marches ! Please tell me what was more important in his vacation plans then to denounce the murder of an American citizen by a racist group ...
How about having the family of the citizen time to grieve before the political shitstorm ensued her story.
oh puhleeze. like Trump gives a shit about the family. he only feigns interest in the family when a brown person kills a white person.
It took well over 24 hrs for Orange bafoon to denounce all the hate groups involved in weekends marches ! Please tell me what was more important in his vacation plans then to denounce the murder of an American citizen by a racist group ...
How about having the family of the citizen time to grieve before the political shitstorm ensued her story.
It took well over 24 hrs for Orange bafoon to denounce all the hate groups involved in weekends marches ! Please tell me what was more important in his vacation plans then to denounce the murder of an American citizen by a racist group ...
How about having the family of the citizen time to grieve before the political shitstorm ensued her story.
It took well over 24 hrs for Orange bafoon to denounce all the hate groups involved in weekends marches ! Please tell me what was more important in his vacation plans then to denounce the murder of an American citizen by a racist group ...
How about having the family of the citizen time to grieve before the political shitstorm ensued her story.
oh puhleeze. like Trump gives a shit about the family. he only feigns interest in the family when a brown person kills a white person.
Not sure what to say to that. You think one way and I another.
It took well over 24 hrs for Orange bafoon to denounce all the hate groups involved in weekends marches ! Please tell me what was more important in his vacation plans then to denounce the murder of an American citizen by a racist group ...
Just throwing this out there. When an incident happened here when Obama was president people crucified him for not calling it "radical Islam" when a Muslim carried out an act.
Where in Europe when an incident happened they labeled it a "radical Islam attack"
Not that this was a Muslim/Islam matter but I can see it the same way as Trump not calling it out for what it was right away.
a lot of white supremacists claim to be Christian. Maybe he should've said it was a radical Christian terrorist attack?
It took well over 24 hrs for Orange bafoon to denounce all the hate groups involved in weekends marches ! Please tell me what was more important in his vacation plans then to denounce the murder of an American citizen by a racist group ...
Just throwing this out there. When an incident happened here when Obama was president people crucified him for not calling it "radical Islam" when a Muslim carried out an act.
Where in Europe when an incident happened they labeled it a "radical Islam attack"
Not that this was a Muslim/Islam matter but I can see it the same way as Trump not calling it out for what it was right away.
a lot of white supremacists claim to be Christian. Maybe he should've said it was a radical Christian terrorist attack?
You could spin it that way but it's not what I was getting at.
There he just called out all those hate groups. Is he still a racist?
Yep, just named the KKK, Neo Nazis, White Supremacist specifically...Way better speech than Obama's dodging when BLM was setting Baltimore on fire...not that I'm a "trumpito" or anything.
How do you know blm was setting fires?
Um...Where were you last year???
Were the people setting fires part of organized blm?
Power was there to check their BLM ID cards.
They burn those too, evidently BLM and Antifa's go to is to burn up everything in sight.
You're right, totally the same as Nazis and ISIS.
Those are your words bub.
Not this bub's words.
"I'm not sure who disagrees with this. Let's name some groups known for intimidation through violence: KKK Antifa Nazis BLM ISIS etc... They should all be named as terrorist organizations."
It took well over 24 hrs for Orange bafoon to denounce all the hate groups involved in weekends marches ! Please tell me what was more important in his vacation plans then to denounce the murder of an American citizen by a racist group ...
Just throwing this out there. When an incident happened here when Obama was president people crucified him for not calling it "radical Islam" when a Muslim carried out an act.
Where in Europe when an incident happened they labeled it a "radical Islam attack"
Not that this was a Muslim/Islam matter but I can see it the same way as Trump not calling it out for what it was right away.
a lot of white supremacists claim to be Christian. Maybe he should've said it was a radical Christian terrorist attack?
You could spin it that way but it's not what I was getting at.
I was pointing out another false equivalency in here.
^^^ I think instead of making an immediate off the hip speech right after the tragic event happened would have been lost on so many. No one cares what a politician says during an extreme time of hate/mourning/pain. After a few days for everything to sink in and emotions a little ( I say a little) less heated the people who the message was intended for were in a better position to receive it. You can't react to everything at every second and expect your message to be heard. It's like people that constantly post in one thread. Eventually people don't read them. So to answer no I don't think it was damage control.
that's a great point!
how is that a great point? his comments 2 days apart contradict each other. the first was obviously from his puny brain, the second was probably written by Ivanka.
I don't ever recall a sitting president saying nothing about a major event to "let the events sink in".
I think a politician talking a day or two after the event is a ok. I mean fdr waited until december 8th.
fair. but what about the "both sides" comment?
Did you not see the video footage of the protesters attacking the supremacists?
I was wondering where the police presence was.
It seems like the cops didn't do very good job on this one.
I think they did pretty good....did you see the pictures of the armed supremacists? Those guys were in body armor and camo.
Given the unrest I am surprised that there weren't shootings. I would think the police deserve credit for that.
I saw a lot of pictures of armed people on both sides...
Oh my god.
Come on man. You're really coming across as an apologist. Even if it was true... one side is armed to perpetuate hate, while one side would have been armed to stop hatred (just like in WWII when 'real' patriots took up arms against nazis).
There he just called out all those hate groups. Is he still a racist?
Yep, just named the KKK, Neo Nazis, White Supremacist specifically...Way better speech than Obama's dodging when BLM was setting Baltimore on fire...not that I'm a "trumpito" or anything.
How do you know blm was setting fires?
Um...Where were you last year???
Were the people setting fires part of organized blm?
Power was there to check their BLM ID cards.
They burn those too, evidently BLM and Antifa's go to is to burn up everything in sight.
You're right, totally the same as Nazis and ISIS.
Those are your words bub.
Not this bub's words.
"I'm not sure who disagrees with this. Let's name some groups known for intimidation through violence: KKK Antifa Nazis BLM ISIS etc... They should all be named as terrorist organizations."
I never said they were the same, just all groups known for trying to get their points across by means of violence.
lol so because today he came out opposing the KKK & Nazis he's all of a sudden a good guy sorry but he's still a deplorable and my opinion of him and any racist bigoted folks hasn't changed at all as far as I'm concerned you support him I want nothing to do with you at all !
Article II Section 2 Pretty ballsy for Trump to discuss this yesterday with the Charlottesville chitstorm
Ballsy is one word for it I suppose, lol. I'd say it is pretty assholey. He calls that racist fuck who has no respect for the the law or human rights a "great American patriot". This is definitely not surprising, and definitely reinforces what we already know about Trump and friends.
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^^^ I think instead of making an immediate off the hip speech right after the tragic event happened would have been lost on so many. No one cares what a politician says during an extreme time of hate/mourning/pain. After a few days for everything to sink in and emotions a little ( I say a little) less heated the people who the message was intended for were in a better position to receive it. You can't react to everything at every second and expect your message to be heard. It's like people that constantly post in one thread. Eventually people don't read them. So to answer no I don't think it was damage control.
that's a great point!
how is that a great point? his comments 2 days apart contradict each other. the first was obviously from his puny brain, the second was probably written by Ivanka.
I don't ever recall a sitting president saying nothing about a major event to "let the events sink in".
I think a politician talking a day or two after the event is a ok. I mean fdr waited until december 8th.
fair. but what about the "both sides" comment?
Did you not see the video footage of the protesters attacking the supremacists?
I was wondering where the police presence was.
It seems like the cops didn't do very good job on this one.
I think they did pretty good....did you see the pictures of the armed supremacists? Those guys were in body armor and camo.
Given the unrest I am surprised that there weren't shootings. I would think the police deserve credit for that.
I saw a lot of pictures of armed people on both sides...
Oh my god.
Come on man. You're really coming across as an apologist. Even if it was true... one side is armed to perpetuate hate, while one side would have been armed to stop hatred (just like in WWII when 'real' patriots took up arms against nazis).
These boobs are confused.
So you consider Antifa the "real patriots"? I guess I understand where you are coming from now...All that the violent protesters from any front cause is an escalation in violence.
Ok so I'll ask would it bother you if these groups decided to March in your town in the name of bigotry would you oppose them or just stand idle ... before you answer I'll tell you what I would do exactly what Heather did stand there and show my support for anti racism ....yes all violence is horrific!
lol so because today he came out opposing the KKK & Nazis he's all of a sudden a good guy sorry but he's still a deplorable and my opinion of him and any racist bigoted folks hasn't changed at all as far as I'm concerned you support him I want nothing to do with you at all !
cmon dude. Come back to the middle at least. The attitude of think like me or I don't want anything to do with you is divisive. A President calls out kkk and Nazis and you refuse to accept it?
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How about having the family of the citizen time to grieve before the political shitstorm ensued her story.
Brooke interviewed the former police chief of Charlottesville, and he said, while he is not in the know, so everything he says is pure speculation, he was confused as to why the protesters and anti-protesters weren't separated to begin with, and how a car was allowed on the premises at ALL, knowing how much pedestrian traffic there would be.
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Where in Europe when an incident happened they labeled it a "radical Islam attack"
Not that this was a Muslim/Islam matter but I can see it the same way as Trump not calling it out for what it was right away.
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Not sure what to say to that. You think one way and I another.
"I'm not sure who disagrees with this. Let's name some groups known for intimidation through violence:
KKK
Antifa
Nazis
BLM
ISIS
etc...
They should all be named as terrorist organizations."
Come on man. You're really coming across as an apologist. Even if it was true... one side is armed to perpetuate hate, while one side would have been armed to stop hatred (just like in WWII when 'real' patriots took up arms against nazis).
These boobs are confused.
Pretty ballsy for Trump to discuss this yesterday with the Charlottesville chitstorm
He calls that racist fuck who has no respect for the the law or human rights a "great American patriot". This is definitely not surprising, and definitely reinforces what we already know about Trump and friends.
So you consider Antifa the "real patriots"? I guess I understand where you are coming from now...All that the violent protesters from any front cause is an escalation in violence.
cmon dude. Come back to the middle at least. The attitude of think like me or I don't want anything to do with you is divisive. A President calls out kkk and Nazis and you refuse to accept it?