Anyone? Is President Trump still a racist now? Anyone?
He bowed to political pressure. Nothing more. Where was this the previous 48 hours? His officials tried to defend it, not tried to couch it, but the story wasn't fading. We'll see what happens after the Texas rally.
^^^ I think instead of making an immediate off the hip speech right after the tragic event happened would have been lost on so many. No one cares what a politician says during an extreme time of hate/mourning/pain. After a few days for everything to sink in and emotions a little ( I say a little) less heated the people who the message was intended for were in a better position to receive it. You can't react to everything at every second and expect your message to be heard. It's like people that constantly post in one thread. Eventually people don't read them. So to answer no I don't think it was damage control.
that's a great point!
how is that a great point? his comments 2 days apart contradict each other. the first was obviously from his puny brain, the second was probably written by Ivanka.
I don't ever recall a sitting president saying nothing about a major event to "let the events sink in".
I think a politician talking a day or two after the event is a ok. I mean fdr waited until december 8th. but by no means do I support the President.
follow up question: what is everyone's opinion of taking down these statues of confederate generals? As a historian I have mixed emotions; it is a part of u.s. history but what they stood for is obviously wrong.
Except he never took time to think about the situation and formulate a response.
He flapped off and tipped his hat. His second response was damage control- written by his advisors.
Anyone? Is President Trump still a racist now? Anyone?
He bowed to political pressure. Nothing more. Where was this the previous 48 hours? His officials tried to defend it, not tried to couch it, but the story wasn't fading. We'll see what happens after the Texas rally.
Too little and way too late. Fuck Trump and his nonstop bullshit.
You guys don't think that after that condemnation speech has altered your perception of him a little? I think it was a very great thing doing that. Calling out those hate groups.
No, doesn't change my perception of him at all. If anything, it's worse (if that is even possible). He showed his usual true self with his first statement. The only reason he made the second one was because he realized that his real statement caused a lot more backlash than his dimwitted brain could conceive at the time. it was damage control, pure and simple. Trump is WAAAAAAY beyond the point of redemption at this point.
But you guys wanted/needed him to call out the despicable evil and he did. How is that not redemption?
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Too little and way too late. Fuck Trump and his nonstop bullshit.
You guys don't think that after that condemnation speech has altered your perception of him a little? I think it was a very great thing doing that. Calling out those hate groups.
No, doesn't change my perception of him at all. If anything, it's worse (if that is even possible). He showed his usual true self with his first statement. The only reason he made the second one was because he realized that his real statement caused a lot more backlash than his dimwitted brain could conceive at the time. it was damage control, pure and simple. Trump is WAAAAAAY beyond the point of redemption at this point.
But you guys wanted/needed him to call out the despicable evil and he did. How is that not redemption?
Everyone has already answered this question.
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Too little and way too late. Fuck Trump and his nonstop bullshit.
You guys don't think that after that condemnation speech has altered your perception of him a little? I think it was a very great thing doing that. Calling out those hate groups.
No, doesn't change my perception of him at all. If anything, it's worse (if that is even possible). He showed his usual true self with his first statement. The only reason he made the second one was because he realized that his real statement caused a lot more backlash than his dimwitted brain could conceive at the time. it was damage control, pure and simple. Trump is WAAAAAAY beyond the point of redemption at this point.
But you guys wanted/needed him to call out the despicable evil and he did. How is that not redemption?
Everyone has already answered this question.
I'm just asking you specifically. The speech today was it bullshit or not?
Too little and way too late. Fuck Trump and his nonstop bullshit.
You guys don't think that after that condemnation speech has altered your perception of him a little? I think it was a very great thing doing that. Calling out those hate groups.
No, doesn't change my perception of him at all. If anything, it's worse (if that is even possible). He showed his usual true self with his first statement. The only reason he made the second one was because he realized that his real statement caused a lot more backlash than his dimwitted brain could conceive at the time. it was damage control, pure and simple. Trump is WAAAAAAY beyond the point of redemption at this point.
But you guys wanted/needed him to call out the despicable evil and he did. How is that not redemption?
Everyone has already answered this question.
I'm just asking you specifically. The speech today was it bullshit or not?
He missed the sincere opportunity... today was about limiting damage. Think... please.
Too little and way too late. Fuck Trump and his nonstop bullshit.
You guys don't think that after that condemnation speech has altered your perception of him a little? I think it was a very great thing doing that. Calling out those hate groups.
No, doesn't change my perception of him at all. If anything, it's worse (if that is even possible). He showed his usual true self with his first statement. The only reason he made the second one was because he realized that his real statement caused a lot more backlash than his dimwitted brain could conceive at the time. it was damage control, pure and simple. Trump is WAAAAAAY beyond the point of redemption at this point.
But you guys wanted/needed him to call out the despicable evil and he did. How is that not redemption?
Well, I, for one am glad that he did. It was a paltry step after his initial statement and the tacit approval that it garnered in white supremacist circles, but better than nothing.
Anyone? Is President Trump still a racist now? Anyone?
He bowed to political pressure. Nothing more. Where was this the previous 48 hours? His officials tried to defend it, not tried to couch it, but the story wasn't fading. We'll see what happens after the Texas rally.
Do you expect violence and if so what will it be over?
Too little and way too late. Fuck Trump and his nonstop bullshit.
You guys don't think that after that condemnation speech has altered your perception of him a little? I think it was a very great thing doing that. Calling out those hate groups.
Like someone else said: too little, too late. He should've called them out Saturday. At the very latest it should've been his first statement when he woke up yesterday. The white supremacist groups already took his initial statement as "he wasn't talking about us, he said all sides." He's just saying it now because he has to, not because he wants to.
And there you have it. He technically doesn't have to do anything. Why does he have to? To save his Presidency or because it is the right thing or both? Who is saying he has to do this?
And there you have what, exactly? You totally missed ignored the fucking point and spun it some other way. In usual PJfan style.
Too little and way too late. Fuck Trump and his nonstop bullshit.
You guys don't think that after that condemnation speech has altered your perception of him a little? I think it was a very great thing doing that. Calling out those hate groups.
Like someone else said: too little, too late. He should've called them out Saturday. At the very latest it should've been his first statement when he woke up yesterday. The white supremacist groups already took his initial statement as "he wasn't talking about us, he said all sides." He's just saying it now because he has to, not because he wants to.
And there you have it. He technically doesn't have to do anything. Why does he have to? To save his Presidency or because it is the right thing or both? Who is saying he has to do this?
And there you have what, exactly? You totally missed ignored the fucking point and spun it some other way. In usual PJfan style.
I didn't spin anything. I am unclear what you mean "he has to"
^^^ I think instead of making an immediate off the hip speech right after the tragic event happened would have been lost on so many. No one cares what a politician says during an extreme time of hate/mourning/pain. After a few days for everything to sink in and emotions a little ( I say a little) less heated the people who the message was intended for were in a better position to receive it. You can't react to everything at every second and expect your message to be heard. It's like people that constantly post in one thread. Eventually people don't read them. So to answer no I don't think it was damage control.
that's a great point!
how is that a great point? his comments 2 days apart contradict each other. the first was obviously from his puny brain, the second was probably written by Ivanka.
I don't ever recall a sitting president saying nothing about a major event to "let the events sink in".
I think a politician talking a day or two after the event is a ok. I mean fdr waited until december 8th.
fair. but what about the "both sides" comment?
Did you not see the video footage of the protesters attacking the supremacists?
^^^ I think instead of making an immediate off the hip speech right after the tragic event happened would have been lost on so many. No one cares what a politician says during an extreme time of hate/mourning/pain. After a few days for everything to sink in and emotions a little ( I say a little) less heated the people who the message was intended for were in a better position to receive it. You can't react to everything at every second and expect your message to be heard. It's like people that constantly post in one thread. Eventually people don't read them. So to answer no I don't think it was damage control.
that's a great point!
how is that a great point? his comments 2 days apart contradict each other. the first was obviously from his puny brain, the second was probably written by Ivanka.
I don't ever recall a sitting president saying nothing about a major event to "let the events sink in".
I think a politician talking a day or two after the event is a ok. I mean fdr waited until december 8th.
fair. but what about the "both sides" comment?
Did you not see the video footage of the protesters attacking the supremacists?
I was wondering where the police presence was.
It seems like the cops didn't do very good job on this one.
Too little and way too late. Fuck Trump and his nonstop bullshit.
You guys don't think that after that condemnation speech has altered your perception of him a little? I think it was a very great thing doing that. Calling out those hate groups.
Like someone else said: too little, too late. He should've called them out Saturday. At the very latest it should've been his first statement when he woke up yesterday. The white supremacist groups already took his initial statement as "he wasn't talking about us, he said all sides." He's just saying it now because he has to, not because he wants to.
And there you have it. He technically doesn't have to do anything. Why does he have to? To save his Presidency or because it is the right thing or both? Who is saying he has to do this?
And there you have what, exactly? You totally missed ignored the fucking point and spun it some other way. In usual PJfan style.
I didn't spin anything. I am unclear what you mean "he has to"
For someone who continually plays the semantics game, I have a hard time believing that.
Too little and way too late. Fuck Trump and his nonstop bullshit.
You guys don't think that after that condemnation speech has altered your perception of him a little? I think it was a very great thing doing that. Calling out those hate groups.
Like someone else said: too little, too late. He should've called them out Saturday. At the very latest it should've been his first statement when he woke up yesterday. The white supremacist groups already took his initial statement as "he wasn't talking about us, he said all sides." He's just saying it now because he has to, not because he wants to.
And there you have it. He technically doesn't have to do anything. Why does he have to? To save his Presidency or because it is the right thing or both? Who is saying he has to do this?
And there you have what, exactly? You totally missed ignored the fucking point and spun it some other way. In usual PJfan style.
I didn't spin anything. I am unclear what you mean "he has to"
For someone who continually plays the semantics game, I have a hard time believing that.
So can you explain in detail what you mean when you say "He's just saying it now because he has to" your point is not coming across. I know it's hard to do online but if you try I will listen.
^^^ I think instead of making an immediate off the hip speech right after the tragic event happened would have been lost on so many. No one cares what a politician says during an extreme time of hate/mourning/pain. After a few days for everything to sink in and emotions a little ( I say a little) less heated the people who the message was intended for were in a better position to receive it. You can't react to everything at every second and expect your message to be heard. It's like people that constantly post in one thread. Eventually people don't read them. So to answer no I don't think it was damage control.
that's a great point!
how is that a great point? his comments 2 days apart contradict each other. the first was obviously from his puny brain, the second was probably written by Ivanka.
I don't ever recall a sitting president saying nothing about a major event to "let the events sink in".
I think a politician talking a day or two after the event is a ok. I mean fdr waited until december 8th.
fair. but what about the "both sides" comment?
Did you not see the video footage of the protesters attacking the supremacists?
I was wondering where the police presence was.
It seems like the cops didn't do very good job on this one.
I think they did pretty good....did you see the pictures of the armed supremacists? Those guys were in body armor and camo.
Given the unrest I am surprised that there weren't shootings. I would think the police deserve credit for that.
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It should have been common sense for the Presidential statement to be made without the employment numbers and the off the cuff insertion of the the Trump brand into the center of the discussion, on SATURDAY. He sort of needs better handlers. Pathetic.
^^^ I think instead of making an immediate off the hip speech right after the tragic event happened would have been lost on so many. No one cares what a politician says during an extreme time of hate/mourning/pain. After a few days for everything to sink in and emotions a little ( I say a little) less heated the people who the message was intended for were in a better position to receive it. You can't react to everything at every second and expect your message to be heard. It's like people that constantly post in one thread. Eventually people don't read them. So to answer no I don't think it was damage control.
that's a great point!
how is that a great point? his comments 2 days apart contradict each other. the first was obviously from his puny brain, the second was probably written by Ivanka.
I don't ever recall a sitting president saying nothing about a major event to "let the events sink in".
I think a politician talking a day or two after the event is a ok. I mean fdr waited until december 8th.
fair. but what about the "both sides" comment?
Did you not see the video footage of the protesters attacking the supremacists?
I was wondering where the police presence was.
It seems like the cops didn't do very good job on this one.
I think they did pretty good....did you see the pictures of the armed supremacists? Those guys were in body armor and camo.
Given the unrest I am surprised that there weren't shootings. I would think the police deserve credit for that.
I saw a lot of pictures of armed people on both sides...
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But you guys wanted/needed him to call out the despicable evil and he did. How is that not redemption?
I'm just asking you specifically. The speech today was it bullshit or not?
It was a paltry step after his initial statement and the tacit approval that it garnered in white supremacist circles, but better than nothing.
Do you expect violence and if so what will it be over?
I didn't spin anything. I am unclear what you mean "he has to"
I was wondering where the police presence was.
So can you explain in detail what you mean when you say "He's just saying it now because he has to" your point is not coming across. I know it's hard to do online but if you try I will listen.
Given the unrest I am surprised that there weren't shootings. I would think the police deserve credit for that.
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He sort of needs better handlers. Pathetic.
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