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He's fucking smart to stay out of Philly and Boston.Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180
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How did you do that? It’s unbelievable.jerparker20 said:Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Cmon that's not impressive. Make him do it again in 10 minutes.Halifax2TheMax said:
How did you do that? It’s unbelievable.jerparker20 said:Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.hippiemom = goodness0 -
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Cmon that's not impressive. Make him do it again in 10 minutes.Halifax2TheMax said:
How did you do that? It’s unbelievable.jerparker20 said:Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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C’mon, do it again!Halifax2TheMax said:
How did you do that? It’s unbelievable.jerparker20 said:Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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They set the federal courthouse in Portland on fire. Not sure about any other federal buildings.Merkin Baller said:
How many federal buildings have actually been burned down in Oregon?PJPOWER said:
That’s a great point! So either the state politicians don’t feel the need to protect federal buildings or they are afraid of protecting them on any level. Because they were definitely at risk of being burned down, there was plenty of evidence of that.Merkin Baller said:
Your theory about states being reluctant to seek federal support for fear of being seen as supporting trump would be awesome if a ton of blue states hadn’t been asking for federal support in dealing with the pandemic.PJPOWER said:
I agree. Unfortunately, the states this is happening in do not have leadership willing to ask for federal support at this time as that would be seen as siding with Trump.mickeyrat said:
frankly I think the feds should have asked for state and local help to block access to these facilitiesPJPOWER said:
Exactly, I’m glad someone gets it!mickeyrat said:The Juggler said:
....even if the governor did not request their assistance? Doesn't that go against everything conservatives once stood for regarding states rights?PJPOWER said:
Funny that people claim they are not anarchists when they literally have the anarchy symbol on their banners...Kat said:Everyone has heard of Kent State, right? Will the next step be to kill them?
I do not support the federal officers going out patrolling the streets of Portland, but I do support them guarding the actual federal buildings with whatever force is needed to do so.federal property. the interiors of which have federal protection and not local authority in a security role. So yes. even if the governor or mayor didnt ask. They just need to go no further than the sidewalks surrounding said federal property.Now the governors need to call up their national guards to stand facing those fucks and protect their states citizens exercising their rights.Edit:
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Kind of. Fireworks set off nearby started debris in the street and by the fence on fire. The building itself, no.Ledbetterman10 said:
They set the federal courthouse in Portland on fire. Not sure about any other federal buildings.Merkin Baller said:
How many federal buildings have actually been burned down in Oregon?PJPOWER said:
That’s a great point! So either the state politicians don’t feel the need to protect federal buildings or they are afraid of protecting them on any level. Because they were definitely at risk of being burned down, there was plenty of evidence of that.Merkin Baller said:
Your theory about states being reluctant to seek federal support for fear of being seen as supporting trump would be awesome if a ton of blue states hadn’t been asking for federal support in dealing with the pandemic.PJPOWER said:
I agree. Unfortunately, the states this is happening in do not have leadership willing to ask for federal support at this time as that would be seen as siding with Trump.mickeyrat said:
frankly I think the feds should have asked for state and local help to block access to these facilitiesPJPOWER said:
Exactly, I’m glad someone gets it!mickeyrat said:The Juggler said:
....even if the governor did not request their assistance? Doesn't that go against everything conservatives once stood for regarding states rights?PJPOWER said:
Funny that people claim they are not anarchists when they literally have the anarchy symbol on their banners...Kat said:Everyone has heard of Kent State, right? Will the next step be to kill them?
I do not support the federal officers going out patrolling the streets of Portland, but I do support them guarding the actual federal buildings with whatever force is needed to do so.federal property. the interiors of which have federal protection and not local authority in a security role. So yes. even if the governor or mayor didnt ask. They just need to go no further than the sidewalks surrounding said federal property.Now the governors need to call up their national guards to stand facing those fucks and protect their states citizens exercising their rights.Edit:It's a hopeless situation...0 -
The moment in the interview this doctor finally realizes Trump is a fucking moron.0 -
It takes an interview to determine that?PJNB said:
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I can't believe Trump insists on pushing this point, when he just looks stupider each time. Wallace embarrassed him the other day, and now there is just more fodder. It's hilarious. This is going to be all the rage for the next few days, until Trump does something else.Halifax2TheMax said:
It takes an interview to determine that?PJNB said:
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They set the federal courthouse in Portland on fire. Not sure about any other federal buildings.Merkin Baller said:
How many federal buildings have actually been burned down in Oregon?PJPOWER said:
That’s a great point! So either the state politicians don’t feel the need to protect federal buildings or they are afraid of protecting them on any level. Because they were definitely at risk of being burned down, there was plenty of evidence of that.Merkin Baller said:
Your theory about states being reluctant to seek federal support for fear of being seen as supporting trump would be awesome if a ton of blue states hadn’t been asking for federal support in dealing with the pandemic.PJPOWER said:
I agree. Unfortunately, the states this is happening in do not have leadership willing to ask for federal support at this time as that would be seen as siding with Trump.mickeyrat said:
frankly I think the feds should have asked for state and local help to block access to these facilitiesPJPOWER said:
Exactly, I’m glad someone gets it!mickeyrat said:The Juggler said:
....even if the governor did not request their assistance? Doesn't that go against everything conservatives once stood for regarding states rights?PJPOWER said:
Funny that people claim they are not anarchists when they literally have the anarchy symbol on their banners...Kat said:Everyone has heard of Kent State, right? Will the next step be to kill them?
I do not support the federal officers going out patrolling the streets of Portland, but I do support them guarding the actual federal buildings with whatever force is needed to do so.federal property. the interiors of which have federal protection and not local authority in a security role. So yes. even if the governor or mayor didnt ask. They just need to go no further than the sidewalks surrounding said federal property.Now the governors need to call up their national guards to stand facing those fucks and protect their states citizens exercising their rights.Edit:This is from last night.
Got anything from before the federal stormtroopers moved in?
I'm trying to understand why conservatives are making excuses for fascism in the streets of America, and so far I've seen little to no evidence that the Portland authorities were allowing federal buildings to be destroyed to the point where federal thugs needed to be mobilized to march through the streets assaulting peaceful protesters & making secret arrests.
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Some Elk statue thing was burned down....Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:
They set the federal courthouse in Portland on fire. Not sure about any other federal buildings.Merkin Baller said:
How many federal buildings have actually been burned down in Oregon?PJPOWER said:
That’s a great point! So either the state politicians don’t feel the need to protect federal buildings or they are afraid of protecting them on any level. Because they were definitely at risk of being burned down, there was plenty of evidence of that.Merkin Baller said:
Your theory about states being reluctant to seek federal support for fear of being seen as supporting trump would be awesome if a ton of blue states hadn’t been asking for federal support in dealing with the pandemic.PJPOWER said:
I agree. Unfortunately, the states this is happening in do not have leadership willing to ask for federal support at this time as that would be seen as siding with Trump.mickeyrat said:
frankly I think the feds should have asked for state and local help to block access to these facilitiesPJPOWER said:
Exactly, I’m glad someone gets it!mickeyrat said:The Juggler said:
....even if the governor did not request their assistance? Doesn't that go against everything conservatives once stood for regarding states rights?PJPOWER said:
Funny that people claim they are not anarchists when they literally have the anarchy symbol on their banners...Kat said:Everyone has heard of Kent State, right? Will the next step be to kill them?
I do not support the federal officers going out patrolling the streets of Portland, but I do support them guarding the actual federal buildings with whatever force is needed to do so.federal property. the interiors of which have federal protection and not local authority in a security role. So yes. even if the governor or mayor didnt ask. They just need to go no further than the sidewalks surrounding said federal property.Now the governors need to call up their national guards to stand facing those fucks and protect their states citizens exercising their rights.Edit:This is from last night.
Got anything from before the federal stormtroopers moved in?
I'm trying to understand why conservatives are making excuses for fascism in the streets of America, and so far I've seen little to no evidence that the Portland authorities were allowing federal buildings to be destroyed to the point where federal thugs needed to be mobilized to march through the streets assaulting peaceful protesters & making secret arrests.
And I guess where the statue used to stand is a popular place for fires now....
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Or the moment he realizes he just got dummer by 10 points for listening to him!PJNB said:
The moment in the interview this doctor finally realizes Trump is a fucking moron.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Andy Ngo....not exactly an unbiased source...tbergs said:
Kind of. Fireworks set off nearby started debris in the street and by the fence on fire. The building itself, no.Ledbetterman10 said:
They set the federal courthouse in Portland on fire. Not sure about any other federal buildings.Merkin Baller said:
How many federal buildings have actually been burned down in Oregon?PJPOWER said:
That’s a great point! So either the state politicians don’t feel the need to protect federal buildings or they are afraid of protecting them on any level. Because they were definitely at risk of being burned down, there was plenty of evidence of that.Merkin Baller said:
Your theory about states being reluctant to seek federal support for fear of being seen as supporting trump would be awesome if a ton of blue states hadn’t been asking for federal support in dealing with the pandemic.PJPOWER said:
I agree. Unfortunately, the states this is happening in do not have leadership willing to ask for federal support at this time as that would be seen as siding with Trump.mickeyrat said:
frankly I think the feds should have asked for state and local help to block access to these facilitiesPJPOWER said:
Exactly, I’m glad someone gets it!mickeyrat said:The Juggler said:
....even if the governor did not request their assistance? Doesn't that go against everything conservatives once stood for regarding states rights?PJPOWER said:
Funny that people claim they are not anarchists when they literally have the anarchy symbol on their banners...Kat said:Everyone has heard of Kent State, right? Will the next step be to kill them?
I do not support the federal officers going out patrolling the streets of Portland, but I do support them guarding the actual federal buildings with whatever force is needed to do so.federal property. the interiors of which have federal protection and not local authority in a security role. So yes. even if the governor or mayor didnt ask. They just need to go no further than the sidewalks surrounding said federal property.Now the governors need to call up their national guards to stand facing those fucks and protect their states citizens exercising their rights.Edit:www.myspace.com0 -
No payroll tax cut in the Senate bill. So much winning for Trump.
But let's not forget the situation. Democrats passed their bill two months ago, in anticipation of the expiration of relief in one week. But Republicans in the Senate and the WH are frantically trying to get something done. Why? Who knows. It could be because McConnell is so useless he can't advance a bill unless staring over a cliff. Or it could be because they all believed in magic, and that the virus would just disappear in the summer. Either way, it's hard to see a scenario where at least one check isn't missed at this point.0 -
I knew someone would respond like this. He’s the guy that’s posts videos of this stuff. Whether he’s biased or not (which he is) doesn’t matter cause they’re not fake videos. It's just as biased on the other side to show Trump's "stormtroopers" arresting people and not show the stuff that Ngo shows.The Juggler said:
Andy Ngo....not exactly an unbiased source...tbergs said:
Kind of. Fireworks set off nearby started debris in the street and by the fence on fire. The building itself, no.Ledbetterman10 said:
They set the federal courthouse in Portland on fire. Not sure about any other federal buildings.Merkin Baller said:
How many federal buildings have actually been burned down in Oregon?PJPOWER said:
That’s a great point! So either the state politicians don’t feel the need to protect federal buildings or they are afraid of protecting them on any level. Because they were definitely at risk of being burned down, there was plenty of evidence of that.Merkin Baller said:
Your theory about states being reluctant to seek federal support for fear of being seen as supporting trump would be awesome if a ton of blue states hadn’t been asking for federal support in dealing with the pandemic.PJPOWER said:
I agree. Unfortunately, the states this is happening in do not have leadership willing to ask for federal support at this time as that would be seen as siding with Trump.mickeyrat said:
frankly I think the feds should have asked for state and local help to block access to these facilitiesPJPOWER said:
Exactly, I’m glad someone gets it!mickeyrat said:The Juggler said:
....even if the governor did not request their assistance? Doesn't that go against everything conservatives once stood for regarding states rights?PJPOWER said:
Funny that people claim they are not anarchists when they literally have the anarchy symbol on their banners...Kat said:Everyone has heard of Kent State, right? Will the next step be to kill them?
I do not support the federal officers going out patrolling the streets of Portland, but I do support them guarding the actual federal buildings with whatever force is needed to do so.federal property. the interiors of which have federal protection and not local authority in a security role. So yes. even if the governor or mayor didnt ask. They just need to go no further than the sidewalks surrounding said federal property.Now the governors need to call up their national guards to stand facing those fucks and protect their states citizens exercising their rights.Edit:
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They like their fires:Ledbetterman10 said:
Some Elk statue thing was burned down....Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:
They set the federal courthouse in Portland on fire. Not sure about any other federal buildings.Merkin Baller said:
How many federal buildings have actually been burned down in Oregon?PJPOWER said:
That’s a great point! So either the state politicians don’t feel the need to protect federal buildings or they are afraid of protecting them on any level. Because they were definitely at risk of being burned down, there was plenty of evidence of that.Merkin Baller said:
Your theory about states being reluctant to seek federal support for fear of being seen as supporting trump would be awesome if a ton of blue states hadn’t been asking for federal support in dealing with the pandemic.PJPOWER said:
I agree. Unfortunately, the states this is happening in do not have leadership willing to ask for federal support at this time as that would be seen as siding with Trump.mickeyrat said:
frankly I think the feds should have asked for state and local help to block access to these facilitiesPJPOWER said:
Exactly, I’m glad someone gets it!mickeyrat said:The Juggler said:
....even if the governor did not request their assistance? Doesn't that go against everything conservatives once stood for regarding states rights?PJPOWER said:
Funny that people claim they are not anarchists when they literally have the anarchy symbol on their banners...Kat said:Everyone has heard of Kent State, right? Will the next step be to kill them?
I do not support the federal officers going out patrolling the streets of Portland, but I do support them guarding the actual federal buildings with whatever force is needed to do so.federal property. the interiors of which have federal protection and not local authority in a security role. So yes. even if the governor or mayor didnt ask. They just need to go no further than the sidewalks surrounding said federal property.Now the governors need to call up their national guards to stand facing those fucks and protect their states citizens exercising their rights.Edit:This is from last night.
Got anything from before the federal stormtroopers moved in?
I'm trying to understand why conservatives are making excuses for fascism in the streets of America, and so far I've seen little to no evidence that the Portland authorities were allowing federal buildings to be destroyed to the point where federal thugs needed to be mobilized to march through the streets assaulting peaceful protesters & making secret arrests.
And I guess where the statue used to stand is a popular place for fires now....
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/protesters-set-fire-portland-courthouse-234043493.html
Pretty good timeline of the Portland chaos:
https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/9-news/474579-383427-a-timeline-of-the-portland-protests-and-police-clashes
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Ledbetterman10 said:
Some Elk statue thing was burned down....Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:
They set the federal courthouse in Portland on fire. Not sure about any other federal buildings.Merkin Baller said:
How many federal buildings have actually been burned down in Oregon?PJPOWER said:
That’s a great point! So either the state politicians don’t feel the need to protect federal buildings or they are afraid of protecting them on any level. Because they were definitely at risk of being burned down, there was plenty of evidence of that.Merkin Baller said:
Your theory about states being reluctant to seek federal support for fear of being seen as supporting trump would be awesome if a ton of blue states hadn’t been asking for federal support in dealing with the pandemic.PJPOWER said:
I agree. Unfortunately, the states this is happening in do not have leadership willing to ask for federal support at this time as that would be seen as siding with Trump.mickeyrat said:
frankly I think the feds should have asked for state and local help to block access to these facilitiesPJPOWER said:
Exactly, I’m glad someone gets it!mickeyrat said:The Juggler said:
....even if the governor did not request their assistance? Doesn't that go against everything conservatives once stood for regarding states rights?PJPOWER said:
Funny that people claim they are not anarchists when they literally have the anarchy symbol on their banners...Kat said:Everyone has heard of Kent State, right? Will the next step be to kill them?
I do not support the federal officers going out patrolling the streets of Portland, but I do support them guarding the actual federal buildings with whatever force is needed to do so.federal property. the interiors of which have federal protection and not local authority in a security role. So yes. even if the governor or mayor didnt ask. They just need to go no further than the sidewalks surrounding said federal property.Now the governors need to call up their national guards to stand facing those fucks and protect their states citizens exercising their rights.Edit:This is from last night.
Got anything from before the federal stormtroopers moved in?
I'm trying to understand why conservatives are making excuses for fascism in the streets of America, and so far I've seen little to no evidence that the Portland authorities were allowing federal buildings to be destroyed to the point where federal thugs needed to be mobilized to march through the streets assaulting peaceful protesters & making secret arrests.
And I guess where the statue used to stand is a popular place for fires now....I don't condone mobs tearing down / burning statues, regardless of what those statues symbolize (mobilize and get them removed the right way).
I also don't condone federal troops making secret arrests because people lit fire to 'some elk statue thing', do you? (For what it's worth, it wasn't "burned down" which I infer as being destroyed, it was damaged when protesters lit fire to it. The regional arts council had it removed for safety. Semantics? Perhaps, but words matter.)
While on the subject, is that elk even on federal property? I understand it sits near the justice center, but is it federal jurisdiction? & even if it is, does the burning of it justify violating other people's 1st amendment rights (among others)?
Side note, but still related: Are federal buildings in Albuquerque being threatened as well? Because they plan to send these secret police there too.
lastly: Andy Ngo is an 'interesting' source to say the least. I'm not refuting what you're relaying from him here, but he has a pretty interesting backstory.
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last minute is a way to force shit through...mrussel1 said:No payroll tax cut in the Senate bill. So much winning for Trump.
But let's not forget the situation. Democrats passed their bill two months ago, in anticipation of the expiration of relief in one week. But Republicans in the Senate and the WH are frantically trying to get something done. Why? Who knows. It could be because McConnell is so useless he can't advance a bill unless staring over a cliff. Or it could be because they all believed in magic, and that the virus would just disappear in the summer. Either way, it's hard to see a scenario where at least one check isn't missed at this point.
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