Donald Trump

cincybearcat

rgambs said:

cincybearcat said:

rgambs said:

cincybearcat said:

I must have missed something. Because if people really think blaming the Chinese government for their response and blaming the Chinese government for their lack of health standards And blaming the Chinese government for allowing and the Chinese people for having and using a assbackwards meat market is being racist then I’m not really sure what to think about the people here. 

  

Southern Black people in Louisiana eat pigs feet, pork jowls, pork rinds, frog legs, turtle soup, and they suck the "brains" out of crawdad heads.  
If I said the same thing about them, would it sound racist to you?  Sure, wet markets should be better regulated, but they are only so highly vilified because they are culturally exotic to us, the same way most of those southern foods are culturally exotic to us in the north.
Have you ever seen a CAFO in person?  We don't actually have much room to criticize China on the issue, we just think we do because American society, under it's cool white supermarket lights keeps it's disgusting food hazards out of sight.

It's funny you mention that because I was texting some friends the other day and said perhaps the next virus would be the Bayou virus.

Your off comment..."sure, wet markets should be better regulated" is actually the whole problem.  This isn't the middle ages....we have refrigeration and understand food safety.  They choose to ignore it.  And they fucked us all because we have chosen to have a blind eye and not include all the costs of dealing with China.  

This reeks of the "both sides are the same" political argument that while has some merits at times, is a completely idiotic comparison on a whole.  Sure at times, yes they appear the same.  In reality, when you add it all up, give me a fucking break.

I do see the similarity to the "both sides" argument, so I will clarify that I don't think both sides are the same here.  China does need to take a stronger role, and their leadership has been terrible in so many ways. 
To get where I am coming from, you have to understand my extreme irritation with Western (American) ignorance of all things related to food production.  It's a big issue for me, a pet peeve, and this plays right into it.  Everyone hates the wet market, fuck China and their gross food, as they blissfully buy pink slime that came from an animal that lived it's entire life covered in feces in a giant warehouse that produces viruses and antibiotic resistant bacteria at astounding rates.  It absolutely IS akin to racism, because it is distaste for "other" based on ignorance of them and of self.

I do get your point re:the food.  It's tough for me to reconcile sometimes in my head when I see cages of kittens and dogs in those markets.  But as I was telling my daughter, they need protein to live and it's their culture.  Do I find it disgusting some of the things they eat? Absolutely.  DO I think cats and dogs and animals that are generally pets elsewhere is disgusting? Yes.  But as you or someone else said, there are lots of people that think the same about my hamburger.  I think in many cases it is ignorance more than racism.

My problem has been the amazing amount of deflection and explaining people are doing to say China isn't the problem.  That's just bullshit, they are the problem for this virus.  And the food safety standards and other things are the problem moving forward.  Are there problems in the US...yes, but the degree is lower and the risk is lower.  China owns this, they own their lies and coverup too.  Though, with the idiot we have in the white house, I'm not sure we'd be better off at all even if they hadn't lied and covered up the issue.

CM189191

mickeyrat said:

CM189191 said:

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josevolution said:

Good god when will this nightmares just end man i feel the only way to get away from this is to just plan on leaving and moving to some secluded place ughh, man what an evil bastard he really is 

And yet there are people in this country, in your neighborhood,  at your job, on here claiming to be Pearl Jam fans who not only support his/their policies, they think his behavior is okay, and believe his thousands of lies.

What does being a Pearl Jam fan have to do with anything? Claiming to be PJ fans? You can’t be a PJ fan and a republican? I’m almost positive that PJ would welcome any type of person to listen to and enjoy their music. 

Fun fact: this is exactly what the song "Not For You" is about

huh. and here I thought it was commentary or a response to corporate music industry and related  shit born out of it.

and corporations are people, duh

OnWis97

I'm old enough to remember when the right liked states rights.

ikiT

he tryin' to hypnotize you yo

check out the hand movements.   

this will not end well for this president.

pre·side

/prəˈzīd/

verb

1. 1.

   be in the position of authority in a meeting or other gathering.

ikiT

be in the position of authority

CM189191

ikiT said:

he tryin' to hypnotize you yo

check out the hand movements.   

this will not end well for this president.

pre·side

/prəˈzīd/

verb

1. 1.

   be in the position of authority in a meeting or other gathering.

I just like to imagine tRUmp is playing an invisible accordion when he's talking

CM189191

Has Donnie painted himself into a corner with these daily press briefings?

The press basically has carte blanche to hammer him day after day after day

And he can't cancel them now, he'll look like a coward.

ikiT

so terrible at his job.  he could not be worse. 

it's 11am on the east coast on April 14th 2020 in the midst of a pandemic.  5 months have not gone by since from impeachment of this President.  Brett Kavanaugh.  Steve Bannon.  Michael Cohen.  General Kelly Ann Conway.  Head of the EPA Scott Puitt.  JARED. 
He actually said "I am the chosen one..."

not to mention every other good goddamned thing this guy he has done from the jump
what a tragedy.



carry on

ikiT

CM189191 said:

ikiT said:

he tryin' to hypnotize you yo

check out the hand movements.   

this will not end well for this president.

pre·side

/prəˈzīd/

verb

1. 1.

   be in the position of authority in a meeting or other gathering.

I just like to imagine tRUmp is playing an invisible accordion when he's talking

it will all go away like a miracle...

HYPNOTIZE 

so dangerous

ikiT

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6027615823001#sp=show-clips

ikiT

https://instagram.com/p/B-9y-sugybg/embed/

The Juggler

ikiT said:

https://instagram.com/p/B-9y-sugybg/embed/

The way that reporter grilled him yesterday was the way reporters should have been grilling him for the last 5 years. 

He had no answers. He looked like a bumbling fool. She owned him. Let's hope it continues. 

josevolution

The Juggler said:

ikiT said:

https://instagram.com/p/B-9y-sugybg/embed/

The way that reporter grilled him yesterday was the way reporters should have been grilling him for the last 5 years. 

He had no answers. He looked like a bumbling fool. She owned him. Let's hope it continues. 

Totally he needs to be put in place at all these briefings 

The Juggler

josevolution said:

The Juggler said:

ikiT said:

https://instagram.com/p/B-9y-sugybg/embed/

The way that reporter grilled him yesterday was the way reporters should have been grilling him for the last 5 years. 

He had no answers. He looked like a bumbling fool. She owned him. Let's hope it continues. 

Totally he needs to be put in place at all these briefings 

Yeah and all she did was press him on the same question repeatedly. It's not hard as Donald Trump is a fucking simpleton. It just takes persistence. 

mfc2006

The Juggler said:

ikiT said:

https://instagram.com/p/B-9y-sugybg/embed/

The way that reporter grilled him yesterday was the way reporters should have been grilling him for the last 5 years. 

He had no answers. He looked like a bumbling fool. She owned him. Let's hope it continues. 

Yes. That was a beautiful (& maddening) thing to watch.

mrussel1

mfc2006 said:

The Juggler said:

ikiT said:

https://instagram.com/p/B-9y-sugybg/embed/

The way that reporter grilled him yesterday was the way reporters should have been grilling him for the last 5 years. 

He had no answers. He looked like a bumbling fool. She owned him. Let's hope it continues. 

Yes. That was a beautiful (& maddening) thing to watch.

who was it?  I want to find a clip.

mfc2006

mrussel1 said:

mfc2006 said:

The Juggler said:

ikiT said:

https://instagram.com/p/B-9y-sugybg/embed/

The way that reporter grilled him yesterday was the way reporters should have been grilling him for the last 5 years. 

He had no answers. He looked like a bumbling fool. She owned him. Let's hope it continues. 

Yes. That was a beautiful (& maddening) thing to watch.

who was it?  I want to find a clip.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/13/asked-what-his-administration-did-address-coronavirus-february-trump-cant-answer/

Can't recall off the top of my head. There's another clip that shows the two of them going back & forth. I'll try to find it.

ikiT

The Juggler said:

ikiT said:

https://instagram.com/p/B-9y-sugybg/embed/

The way that reporter grilled him yesterday was the way reporters should have been grilling him for the last 5 years. 

He had no answers. He looked like a bumbling fool. She owned him. Let's hope it continues. 

word up

ikiT

https://twitter.com/goldengateblond/status/1249829406719143937

mfc2006

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/04/13/reporter_takes_on_trump_for_virus_response_what_did_you_do_with_the_time_that_you_bought.html

Paula Reid from CBS