Donald Trump

nicknyr15

Bentleyspop said:

josevolution said:

Good god when will this nightmares just end man i feel the only way to get away from this is to just plan on leaving and moving to some secluded place ughh, man what an evil bastard he really is 

And yet there are people in this country, in your neighborhood,  at your job, on here claiming to be Pearl Jam fans who not only support his/their policies, they think his behavior is okay, and believe his thousands of lies.

What does being a Pearl Jam fan have to do with anything? Claiming to be PJ fans? You can’t be a PJ fan and a republican? I’m almost positive that PJ would welcome any type of person to listen to and enjoy their music. 

rgambs

Thoughts_Arrive said:

You too Jose. I'll try. But hearing a news reporter say the likely end to the school year will devastate many year 12's who should have been graduating. Also, missing a whole year of schooling is very detrimental to the cognitive development of young children. It is hard not to be angry at China right now. And who knows how this year for my university will go, we are moving to online learning but all this is making it hard to focus right now. Worried about the future.

I am not finding it to be difficult at all.  

CM189191

nicknyr15 said:

Bentleyspop said:

josevolution said:

Good god when will this nightmares just end man i feel the only way to get away from this is to just plan on leaving and moving to some secluded place ughh, man what an evil bastard he really is 

And yet there are people in this country, in your neighborhood,  at your job, on here claiming to be Pearl Jam fans who not only support his/their policies, they think his behavior is okay, and believe his thousands of lies.

What does being a Pearl Jam fan have to do with anything? Claiming to be PJ fans? You can’t be a PJ fan and a republican? I’m almost positive that PJ would welcome any type of person to listen to and enjoy their music. 

Fun fact: this is exactly what the song "Not For You" is about

rgambs

cincybearcat said:

I must have missed something. Because if people really think blaming the Chinese government for their response and blaming the Chinese government for their lack of health standards And blaming the Chinese government for allowing and the Chinese people for having and using a assbackwards meat market is being racist then I’m not really sure what to think about the people here. 

  

Southern Black people in Louisiana eat pigs feet, pork jowls, pork rinds, frog legs, turtle soup, and they suck the "brains" out of crawdad heads.  
If I said the same thing about them, would it sound racist to you?  Sure, wet markets should be better regulated, but they are only so highly vilified because they are culturally exotic to us, the same way most of those southern foods are culturally exotic to us in the north.
Have you ever seen a CAFO in person?  We don't actually have much room to criticize China on the issue, we just think we do because American society, under it's cool white supermarket lights keeps it's disgusting food hazards out of sight.

nicknyr15

CM189191 said:

nicknyr15 said:

Bentleyspop said:

josevolution said:

Good god when will this nightmares just end man i feel the only way to get away from this is to just plan on leaving and moving to some secluded place ughh, man what an evil bastard he really is 

And yet there are people in this country, in your neighborhood,  at your job, on here claiming to be Pearl Jam fans who not only support his/their policies, they think his behavior is okay, and believe his thousands of lies.

What does being a Pearl Jam fan have to do with anything? Claiming to be PJ fans? You can’t be a PJ fan and a republican? I’m almost positive that PJ would welcome any type of person to listen to and enjoy their music. 

Fun fact: this is exactly what the song "Not For You" is about

Did you make that up yourself? According the person who wrote it:

Vocalist Eddie Vedder about "Not for You":

I believe...that there is something sacred about youth, and the song is about how youth is being sold and exploited. I think I felt like I had become part of that too. Maybe that's why sometimes I have a hard time with the TV end of music and much of the media and the magazines. When I pick up a magazine, I just count how many pages of ads before the first article starts. You go one, two...up to fifteen to twenty or more. And then in the back you have phone sex ads. So I've pretty much had it. I don't want to be the traveling medicine show where we go out and do the song and dance and someone else drops the back of the wagon and starts selling crap. I don't want our music to sell anything—or anyone else use it. There are a lot of middlemen, somewhere between the band and the audience. I know you need some people to help facilitate things for the live show, and I'm not saying that I don't appreciate these people but...In the last ten or fifteen years, there have been a lot of changes in music, and somehow the percentages being charged [by the concert industry] got out of hand. We also don't want to be part of all the marketing tools or whatever, but believe me, we have been. [That happened] on the first album and that's probably why we are where we are now, but it was hell and I feel awful about it and I'm not going to do it anymore.

In another interview, Vedder stated:

These attitudes out there...that it's the industry's music... And it's not. It's mine. And it's yours. Whoever's listening to it. It's mine and it's yours. And everybody in between, they're the distributors. I think that something like a music channel can be very powerful. Sometimes they think they're the ones who decide what's heard. I think that's a dangerous situation. And, I think, what's more dangerous is that they think it belongs to them. That's probably what "Not for You" is about.

Also not including somebody because of their political beliefs? Doesn’t sound very liberal to me. Certainly not how I live my life. 

mfc2006

Trump is essentially a trainwreck heading ass first right into a giant dumpster fire. Fuck him & his bullshit. 

ikiT

there it is yo 

ikiT

They should really impeach this piece of trash.

mickeyrat

CM189191 said:

nicknyr15 said:

Bentleyspop said:

josevolution said:

Good god when will this nightmares just end man i feel the only way to get away from this is to just plan on leaving and moving to some secluded place ughh, man what an evil bastard he really is 

And yet there are people in this country, in your neighborhood,  at your job, on here claiming to be Pearl Jam fans who not only support his/their policies, they think his behavior is okay, and believe his thousands of lies.

What does being a Pearl Jam fan have to do with anything? Claiming to be PJ fans? You can’t be a PJ fan and a republican? I’m almost positive that PJ would welcome any type of person to listen to and enjoy their music. 

Fun fact: this is exactly what the song "Not For You" is about

huh. and here I thought it was commentary or a response to corporate music industry and related  shit born out of it.

nicknyr15

mfc2006 said:

Trump is essentially a trainwreck heading ass first right into a giant dumpster fire. Fuck him & his bullshit. 

I’ve stayed away from the press conferences but I did watch the clips from yesterday. Wow. 

cincybearcat

rgambs said:

cincybearcat said:

I must have missed something. Because if people really think blaming the Chinese government for their response and blaming the Chinese government for their lack of health standards And blaming the Chinese government for allowing and the Chinese people for having and using a assbackwards meat market is being racist then I’m not really sure what to think about the people here. 

  

Southern Black people in Louisiana eat pigs feet, pork jowls, pork rinds, frog legs, turtle soup, and they suck the "brains" out of crawdad heads.  
If I said the same thing about them, would it sound racist to you?  Sure, wet markets should be better regulated, but they are only so highly vilified because they are culturally exotic to us, the same way most of those southern foods are culturally exotic to us in the north.
Have you ever seen a CAFO in person?  We don't actually have much room to criticize China on the issue, we just think we do because American society, under it's cool white supermarket lights keeps it's disgusting food hazards out of sight.

It's funny you mention that because I was texting some friends the other day and said perhaps the next virus would be the Bayou virus.

Your off comment..."sure, wet markets should be better regulated" is actually the whole problem.  This isn't the middle ages....we have refrigeration and understand food safety.  They choose to ignore it.  And they fucked us all because we have chosen to have a blind eye and not include all the costs of dealing with China.  

This reeks of the "both sides are the same" political argument that while has some merits at times, is a completely idiotic comparison on a whole.  Sure at times, yes they appear the same.  In reality, when you add it all up, give me a fucking break.

Bentleyspop

nicknyr15 said:

Bentleyspop said:

josevolution said:

Good god when will this nightmares just end man i feel the only way to get away from this is to just plan on leaving and moving to some secluded place ughh, man what an evil bastard he really is 

And yet there are people in this country, in your neighborhood,  at your job, on here claiming to be Pearl Jam fans who not only support his/their policies, they think his behavior is okay, and believe his thousands of lies.

What does being a Pearl Jam fan have to do with anything? Claiming to be PJ fans? You can’t be a PJ fan and a republican? I’m almost positive that PJ would welcome any type of person to listen to and enjoy their music. 

It wasn't about being republican or Democrat it was about the backwards ignorant behavior, lies, and policies and the people who continue to support him/them

nicknyr15

Bentleyspop said:

nicknyr15 said:

Bentleyspop said:

josevolution said:

Good god when will this nightmares just end man i feel the only way to get away from this is to just plan on leaving and moving to some secluded place ughh, man what an evil bastard he really is 

And yet there are people in this country, in your neighborhood,  at your job, on here claiming to be Pearl Jam fans who not only support his/their policies, they think his behavior is okay, and believe his thousands of lies.

What does being a Pearl Jam fan have to do with anything? Claiming to be PJ fans? You can’t be a PJ fan and a republican? I’m almost positive that PJ would welcome any type of person to listen to and enjoy their music. 

It wasn't about being republican or Democrat it was about the backwards ignorant behavior, lies, and policies and the people who continue to support him/them

Ok. Thanks for clearing it up. 

rgambs

cincybearcat said:

rgambs said:

cincybearcat said:

I must have missed something. Because if people really think blaming the Chinese government for their response and blaming the Chinese government for their lack of health standards And blaming the Chinese government for allowing and the Chinese people for having and using a assbackwards meat market is being racist then I’m not really sure what to think about the people here. 

  

Southern Black people in Louisiana eat pigs feet, pork jowls, pork rinds, frog legs, turtle soup, and they suck the "brains" out of crawdad heads.  
If I said the same thing about them, would it sound racist to you?  Sure, wet markets should be better regulated, but they are only so highly vilified because they are culturally exotic to us, the same way most of those southern foods are culturally exotic to us in the north.
Have you ever seen a CAFO in person?  We don't actually have much room to criticize China on the issue, we just think we do because American society, under it's cool white supermarket lights keeps it's disgusting food hazards out of sight.

It's funny you mention that because I was texting some friends the other day and said perhaps the next virus would be the Bayou virus.

Your off comment..."sure, wet markets should be better regulated" is actually the whole problem.  This isn't the middle ages....we have refrigeration and understand food safety.  They choose to ignore it.  And they fucked us all because we have chosen to have a blind eye and not include all the costs of dealing with China.  

This reeks of the "both sides are the same" political argument that while has some merits at times, is a completely idiotic comparison on a whole.  Sure at times, yes they appear the same.  In reality, when you add it all up, give me a fucking break.

I do see the similarity to the "both sides" argument, so I will clarify that I don't think both sides are the same here.  China does need to take a stronger role, and their leadership has been terrible in so many ways. 
To get where I am coming from, you have to understand my extreme irritation with Western (American) ignorance of all things related to food production.  It's a big issue for me, a pet peeve, and this plays right into it.  Everyone hates the wet market, fuck China and their gross food, as they blissfully buy pink slime that came from an animal that lived it's entire life covered in feces in a giant warehouse that produces viruses and antibiotic resistant bacteria at astounding rates.  It absolutely IS akin to racism, because it is distaste for "other" based on ignorance of them and of self.

ikiT

Not that I can go outside, but I got zero prob with Rs in general.  I just avoid talking about this idiot in real life.

I do have a problem with the way that our little dick-tater talks to women.  Why is that OK?  Who the fuck does he think he is?

I lost my shit when he said  "enough" to Kaitlin Collins.  She's a White House reporter for CNN for fucks sake, the literal top of her profession, not some stringer from some podunk weekly.  Why do male reporters tolerate that shit?  Someone should straight up punch that puke in the face.

Thoughts_Arrive

rgambs said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

You too Jose. I'll try. But hearing a news reporter say the likely end to the school year will devastate many year 12's who should have been graduating. Also, missing a whole year of schooling is very detrimental to the cognitive development of young children. It is hard not to be angry at China right now. And who knows how this year for my university will go, we are moving to online learning but all this is making it hard to focus right now. Worried about the future.

I am not finding it to be difficult at all.  

Not even with 20,000 or so of your fellow country men and women dead because the CCP covered up this outbreak instead of doing the right thing by the world?

mfc2006

nicknyr15 said:

mfc2006 said:

Trump is essentially a trainwreck heading ass first right into a giant dumpster fire. Fuck him & his bullshit. 

I’ve stayed away from the press conferences but I did watch the clips from yesterday. Wow. 

I have as well to avoid throwing our tv out the window. My brother texted me yesterday and said that it was unlike anything he'd seen, so I tuned in. I lasted about 10 minutes before the TV urge came again. Unreal.

tbergs

Thoughts_Arrive said:

rgambs said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

You too Jose. I'll try. But hearing a news reporter say the likely end to the school year will devastate many year 12's who should have been graduating. Also, missing a whole year of schooling is very detrimental to the cognitive development of young children. It is hard not to be angry at China right now. And who knows how this year for my university will go, we are moving to online learning but all this is making it hard to focus right now. Worried about the future.

I am not finding it to be difficult at all.  

Not even with 20,000 or so of your fellow country men and women dead because the CCP covered up this outbreak instead of doing the right thing by the world?

Pretty sure you mistook his statement. He doesn't find it hard to be mad.

tbergs

rgambs said:

cincybearcat said:

rgambs said:

cincybearcat said:

I must have missed something. Because if people really think blaming the Chinese government for their response and blaming the Chinese government for their lack of health standards And blaming the Chinese government for allowing and the Chinese people for having and using a assbackwards meat market is being racist then I’m not really sure what to think about the people here. 

  

Southern Black people in Louisiana eat pigs feet, pork jowls, pork rinds, frog legs, turtle soup, and they suck the "brains" out of crawdad heads.  
If I said the same thing about them, would it sound racist to you?  Sure, wet markets should be better regulated, but they are only so highly vilified because they are culturally exotic to us, the same way most of those southern foods are culturally exotic to us in the north.
Have you ever seen a CAFO in person?  We don't actually have much room to criticize China on the issue, we just think we do because American society, under it's cool white supermarket lights keeps it's disgusting food hazards out of sight.

It's funny you mention that because I was texting some friends the other day and said perhaps the next virus would be the Bayou virus.

Your off comment..."sure, wet markets should be better regulated" is actually the whole problem.  This isn't the middle ages....we have refrigeration and understand food safety.  They choose to ignore it.  And they fucked us all because we have chosen to have a blind eye and not include all the costs of dealing with China.  

This reeks of the "both sides are the same" political argument that while has some merits at times, is a completely idiotic comparison on a whole.  Sure at times, yes they appear the same.  In reality, when you add it all up, give me a fucking break.

I do see the similarity to the "both sides" argument, so I will clarify that I don't think both sides are the same here.  China does need to take a stronger role, and their leadership has been terrible in so many ways. 
To get where I am coming from, you have to understand my extreme irritation with Western (American) ignorance of all things related to food production.  It's a big issue for me, a pet peeve, and this plays right into it.  Everyone hates the wet market, fuck China and their gross food, as they blissfully buy pink slime that came from an animal that lived it's entire life covered in feces in a giant warehouse that produces viruses and antibiotic resistant bacteria at astounding rates.  It absolutely IS akin to racism, because it is distaste for "other" based on ignorance of them and of self.

Absolutely. My same thinking. The American food industry, and specifically corporate farmed meat, is disgusting. How many people have actually raised and butchered their own meat? How many have ever even seen where their food comes from first hand?

rgambs

tbergs said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

rgambs said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

You too Jose. I'll try. But hearing a news reporter say the likely end to the school year will devastate many year 12's who should have been graduating. Also, missing a whole year of schooling is very detrimental to the cognitive development of young children. It is hard not to be angry at China right now. And who knows how this year for my university will go, we are moving to online learning but all this is making it hard to focus right now. Worried about the future.

I am not finding it to be difficult at all.  

Not even with 20,000 or so of your fellow country men and women dead because the CCP covered up this outbreak instead of doing the right thing by the world?

Pretty sure you mistook his statement. He doesn't find it hard to be mad.

No, he had it right.
I don't have energy to waste on that shit.