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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,445
    tbergs said:
    If the GOP is smart, they hitch themselves to the clear 2 term presidency of DeSantis. Trump can't beat Biden, but DeSantis will stomp Biden.
    It is amazing that being #10 on the most Covid deaths per capita is a feather in this guys cap….
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  • Last I heard, POOTWH was blaming Melanka Darlink for his backing of Oz. Now, if she’d only leave him. For Deathsantis.

    CNN — 

    As votes rolled in from across the country Tuesday night, Donald Trump said something truly incredible when asked about how much credit or blame he should get for the election results.

    “I think if they win, I should get all of the credit, and if they lose, I should not be blamed at all,” Trump told NewsNation, adding: “But it will probably be just the opposite.”



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  • man, he just laid it all right on the table, didn't he? the petulant child admits being a petulant child but still doesn't know he's a petulant child. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    man, he just laid it all right on the table, didn't he? the petulant child admits being a petulant child but still doesn't know he's a petulant child. 
    And none of his base has a problem with it. lol
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,140
    man, he just laid it all right on the table, didn't he? the petulant child admits being a petulant child but still doesn't know he's a petulant child. 
    And none of his base has a problem with it. lol
    That's true. But I wonder whether his base is shrinking.  I would guess...just on my gut, the DeSantis would be easily preferred to the Man Baby at in the party at this point.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    OnWis97 said:
    man, he just laid it all right on the table, didn't he? the petulant child admits being a petulant child but still doesn't know he's a petulant child. 
    And none of his base has a problem with it. lol
    That's true. But I wonder whether his base is shrinking.  I would guess...just on my gut, the DeSantis would be easily preferred to the Man Baby at in the party at this point.
    The ones who are not 100% crazy have to see the writing on the wall at this point. Still millions of crazies out there though!
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  • OnWis97 said:
    man, he just laid it all right on the table, didn't he? the petulant child admits being a petulant child but still doesn't know he's a petulant child. 
    And none of his base has a problem with it. lol
    That's true. But I wonder whether his base is shrinking.  I would guess...just on my gut, the DeSantis would be easily preferred to the Man Baby at in the party at this point.
    POOTWH’s solid base of deplorables is about 25% of the 35% that never budges and is always wholly onboard with whatever extremist position POOTWH takes. It’s the indies that’ll flock to Deathsantis and he’ll need a % of POOTWH’s base to win the nomination. Romney repubs won’t be enough but 6%-12% of POOTWH’s base might be enough.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
    mrussel1 said:
    All the conservative pundits are declaring Trump toast, and Ron D the future.  

    It will be interesting if Trump makes his BIG announcement next week.  He was counting on the momentum from the wave, reading the polls. 

    Trumps big announcement:  "I'M GOING GOLFING!"
    tbergs said:
    If the GOP is smart, they hitch themselves to the clear 2 term presidency of DeSantis. Trump can't beat Biden, but DeSantis will stomp Biden.
    doubt it...

    I agree.  Possible he could beat Biden, but stomp him? Doubt it.

    I think the republican need to take the next several years and get their heads out of that MAGA dark place that has turned them into a bad joke.
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,727
    In a vacuum, at this point and with this atmosphere, Desantis probably does beat Biden handily.

    However, the Republicans have a huge problem.  Trump is going to have a tacky announcement in 2 weeks he is running for president. Him and Desantis are going to fight like dogs.  Republicans overall prefer Desantis at this point.  Trump's ego and his mental illness will not allow him to let it go, especially against someone who he gives himself credit for creating.  Trump will tear apart the house on his way out and I bet he runs to spite the Republican party and Desantis and he will maintain his most devout cult members.
    The Frankenstein monster the Republicans and Republican party has built will finally rise and smash apart the lab and turn on his masters.  They have it coming.  
  • There are a few scenarios that could play out...all will be glorious
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,636
    Last I heard, POOTWH was blaming Melanka Darlink for his backing of Oz. Now, if she’d only leave him. For Deathsantis.

    CNN — 

    As votes rolled in from across the country Tuesday night, Donald Trump said something truly incredible when asked about how much credit or blame he should get for the election results.

    “I think if they win, I should get all of the credit, and if they lose, I should not be blamed at all,” Trump told NewsNation, adding: “But it will probably be just the opposite.”




    To me, he was clearly joking. You could see him try to keep his lips straight on that one.

    But I’ll say, democracy shouldn’t be a joke to anybody, ever.
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,140
    MayDay10 said:
    In a vacuum, at this point and with this atmosphere, Desantis probably does beat Biden handily.

    However, the Republicans have a huge problem.  Trump is going to have a tacky announcement in 2 weeks he is running for president. Him and Desantis are going to fight like dogs.  Republicans overall prefer Desantis at this point.  Trump's ego and his mental illness will not allow him to let it go, especially against someone who he gives himself credit for creating.  Trump will tear apart the house on his way out and I bet he runs to spite the Republican party and Desantis and he will maintain his most devout cult members.
    The Frankenstein monster the Republicans and Republican party has built will finally rise and smash apart the lab and turn on his masters.  They have it coming.  
    Anecdotally (i.e., Twitter) I seems that conservatives are ready to move on from Trump and move to Desantis. But there are some people digging in their heels on Trump. Everything you say here is very plausible. We know that Trump is anything but rational and he doesn't care about the party or the Country; only himself (and Ivanka). Obviously, the best move for the GOP is to have Trump go on Tucker's show in the near future and announce that he's retiring. It just makes too much sense. But the party is going to have to make that worth his while. How? Not sure. They can promise to make sure to do whatever the can to keep him safe from the law.

    I have no problem admitting that I'm hoping he lingers. His presence will do one of two things: create a very tense contest between Trump and DeSantis or lead DeSantis and the rest of the party to step aside for Trump. And based on yesterday, I think independents are sick of Trump, his whining, and his conspiracy nonsense. While I'm still nervous about who on earth might run for the Dems in two years (Be it Biden or someone from their not-very-deep bench), I think Trump would be easier to beat than DeSantis. But watching Desantis and Trump rough each other up is probably the best scenario because I think Desantis would win the nomination but some Trump fans would sit it out.
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,636
    MayDay10 said:
    In a vacuum, at this point and with this atmosphere, Desantis probably does beat Biden handily.

    However, the Republicans have a huge problem.  Trump is going to have a tacky announcement in 2 weeks he is running for president. Him and Desantis are going to fight like dogs.  Republicans overall prefer Desantis at this point.  Trump's ego and his mental illness will not allow him to let it go, especially against someone who he gives himself credit for creating.  Trump will tear apart the house on his way out and I bet he runs to spite the Republican party and Desantis and he will maintain his most devout cult members.
    The Frankenstein monster the Republicans and Republican party has built will finally rise and smash apart the lab and turn on his masters.  They have it coming.  


    It’s amazing DeSantis went from winning last time by 0.4% to being such a rock star now. Besides his gorgeous baby blue eyes, what is different about him than trump? He is young? Ok. But he is every bit as nasty, screwed over a major employer in his state, marginalized the gay population and his policies- guns everywhere, breaks for the wealthy and abortion bans are identical to trump. DeSantis popularity is more of an indictment of the vain American electorate than anything about him as a policy maker.

    ok he figured out how to keep his Covid death count down, just don’t test. They’re still dead, Ron.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    MayDay10 said:
    In a vacuum, at this point and with this atmosphere, Desantis probably does beat Biden handily.

    However, the Republicans have a huge problem.  Trump is going to have a tacky announcement in 2 weeks he is running for president. Him and Desantis are going to fight like dogs.  Republicans overall prefer Desantis at this point.  Trump's ego and his mental illness will not allow him to let it go, especially against someone who he gives himself credit for creating.  Trump will tear apart the house on his way out and I bet he runs to spite the Republican party and Desantis and he will maintain his most devout cult members.
    The Frankenstein monster the Republicans and Republican party has built will finally rise and smash apart the lab and turn on his masters.  They have it coming.  


    It’s amazing DeSantis went from winning last time by 0.4% to being such a rock star now. Besides his gorgeous baby blue eyes, what is different about him than trump? He is young? Ok. But he is every bit as nasty, screwed over a major employer in his state, marginalized the gay population and his policies- guns everywhere, breaks for the wealthy and abortion bans are identical to trump. DeSantis popularity is more of an indictment of the vain American electorate than anything about him as a policy maker.

    ok he figured out how to keep his Covid death count down, just don’t test. They’re still dead, Ron.
    I think Florida has drifted further and further red over the last 10-20 years. I saw some tweet about how they may have screwed themselves in the other parts of the country with so many republicans choosing to move down to that humid hurricane drenched hell hole. He clearly benefitted from that. Also there was like no competition. Charlie Crist? C'mon...
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  • KP_McMinn said:
    KP_McMinn said:
    Did i insult you?  You called me "caveman".  Pot meet kettle.  Typical liberal hypocrisy.  Ask your "specialist" how much you've lost since 2021 vs how much you gained since 2016.  Ask him how much you stand to lose in the next 2.  Bet he doesn't return your cal..... 
    Hey buddy...what do you think Trump was doing with all those top secret documents at maralago?

    Also....the market is higher right now compared to when trump left office. 

    He went with the "they planted it" defense because.....you know, because there's no defense for having it in the first place. 
    Guilty until proven innocent!  The liberal way! Jesus you he/hims really are a special bunch!  
    You know your rhetoric over the last few days is similar to that of the wackjob who tried to kill the speaker of the house? But, nah, you're not some far right extremist.
    Please share w/ the group the rhetoric from the right wing extremist whackjob who tried to kill the speakers Husband?  Be very careful, not a good look to spread FAKE News and all on this fact based forum of ours…lol    Good God the hypocrisy on here gets worse by the day, yet entertaining as ever and only gonna get more entertaining  in coming weeks…
    Entertained yet?
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  • MayDay10 said:
    In a vacuum, at this point and with this atmosphere, Desantis probably does beat Biden handily.

    However, the Republicans have a huge problem.  Trump is going to have a tacky announcement in 2 weeks he is running for president. Him and Desantis are going to fight like dogs.  Republicans overall prefer Desantis at this point.  Trump's ego and his mental illness will not allow him to let it go, especially against someone who he gives himself credit for creating.  Trump will tear apart the house on his way out and I bet he runs to spite the Republican party and Desantis and he will maintain his most devout cult members.
    The Frankenstein monster the Republicans and Republican party has built will finally rise and smash apart the lab and turn on his masters.  They have it coming.  
    this is the best prediction I've seen in years. not that I am advocating for a one party system of democrat rule, but if this causes the repubs to implode and spend time having to rebuild and being on the receiving end, I'm all for it. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    KP_McMinn said:
    KP_McMinn said:
    Did i insult you?  You called me "caveman".  Pot meet kettle.  Typical liberal hypocrisy.  Ask your "specialist" how much you've lost since 2021 vs how much you gained since 2016.  Ask him how much you stand to lose in the next 2.  Bet he doesn't return your cal..... 
    Hey buddy...what do you think Trump was doing with all those top secret documents at maralago?

    Also....the market is higher right now compared to when trump left office. 

    He went with the "they planted it" defense because.....you know, because there's no defense for having it in the first place. 
    Guilty until proven innocent!  The liberal way! Jesus you he/hims really are a special bunch!  
    You know your rhetoric over the last few days is similar to that of the wackjob who tried to kill the speaker of the house? But, nah, you're not some far right extremist.
    Please share w/ the group the rhetoric from the right wing extremist whackjob who tried to kill the speakers Husband?  Be very careful, not a good look to spread FAKE News and all on this fact based forum of ours…lol    Good God the hypocrisy on here gets worse by the day, yet entertaining as ever and only gonna get more entertaining  in coming weeks…
    Entertained yet?
    Seriously. Where are our maga elitist friends? 
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,085
    KP_McMinn said:
    KP_McMinn said:
    Did i insult you?  You called me "caveman".  Pot meet kettle.  Typical liberal hypocrisy.  Ask your "specialist" how much you've lost since 2021 vs how much you gained since 2016.  Ask him how much you stand to lose in the next 2.  Bet he doesn't return your cal..... 
    Hey buddy...what do you think Trump was doing with all those top secret documents at maralago?

    Also....the market is higher right now compared to when trump left office. 

    He went with the "they planted it" defense because.....you know, because there's no defense for having it in the first place. 
    Guilty until proven innocent!  The liberal way! Jesus you he/hims really are a special bunch!  
    You know your rhetoric over the last few days is similar to that of the wackjob who tried to kill the speaker of the house? But, nah, you're not some far right extremist.
    Please share w/ the group the rhetoric from the right wing extremist whackjob who tried to kill the speakers Husband?  Be very careful, not a good look to spread FAKE News and all on this fact based forum of ours…lol    Good God the hypocrisy on here gets worse by the day, yet entertaining as ever and only gonna get more entertaining  in coming weeks…
    Entertained yet?
    Seriously. Where are our maga elitist friends? 
    Quiet across all the forums I’m in. Predictions never were their strong suit. 
  • KP_McMinn said:
    KP_McMinn said:
    Did i insult you?  You called me "caveman".  Pot meet kettle.  Typical liberal hypocrisy.  Ask your "specialist" how much you've lost since 2021 vs how much you gained since 2016.  Ask him how much you stand to lose in the next 2.  Bet he doesn't return your cal..... 
    Hey buddy...what do you think Trump was doing with all those top secret documents at maralago?

    Also....the market is higher right now compared to when trump left office. 

    He went with the "they planted it" defense because.....you know, because there's no defense for having it in the first place. 
    Guilty until proven innocent!  The liberal way! Jesus you he/hims really are a special bunch!  
    You know your rhetoric over the last few days is similar to that of the wackjob who tried to kill the speaker of the house? But, nah, you're not some far right extremist.
    Please share w/ the group the rhetoric from the right wing extremist whackjob who tried to kill the speakers Husband?  Be very careful, not a good look to spread FAKE News and all on this fact based forum of ours…lol    Good God the hypocrisy on here gets worse by the day, yet entertaining as ever and only gonna get more entertaining  in coming weeks…
    Entertained yet?
    Seriously. Where are our maga elitist friends? 
    I believe we were told that, “we had no ‘idea’.”
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Thus far, things have been entertaining. She was right about that. 
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  • mickeyrat said:
    That comment by tRump was odd. Typical mob boss passive/aggressive threat.
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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055

    ‘Where’d That Money Go?’ Watters Questions How Trump Spent His ‘Massive War Chest’ Before the Midterms

    The host of Jesse Watters Primetime said political action committees tied to Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell spent nearly $60 million boosting Mehmet Oz in Pennsylvania, only to lose the race. Watters then pointed to Senate races in Ohio and Arizona.

    “J.D. Vance won in Ohio,” Watters said. “Trump endorsed him. I like J.D., but McConnell had to plow about $32 million to help J.D. win in a state that Trump won by eight. That money could have gone to [Blake] Masters in Arizona. Now, Masters, who I also like didn’t raise enough dough – got outspent by about a billion dollars, a gazillion dollars. I can’t keep track.”

    Regarding the Senate race in Arizona where Democratic Sen. Mark Kelly seems headed for reelection over Masters, the Fox News was perplexed.

    “Nobody can even define what Kelly believes in, but it works,” he said. “All we know is that he’s an astronaut who has great manners or something. McConnell spent close to $400 million on these Senate candidates. I don’t know what goes on behind the scenes, but that is a lot of money. And we didn’t pick up a single seat? So, either some of these candidates are garbage or the money’s not being well spent.

    Watters then noted Trump is sitting on tens of millions of dollars he has raised.

    But Trump’s sitting on a massive war chest in Mar-a-Lago,” he noted. “Where’d that money go?” We don’t know.

    https://www.mediaite.com/politics/whered-that-money-go-watters-questions-how-trump-spent-his-massive-war-chest-before-the-midterms/

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  • mickeyrat said:
    That comment by tRump was odd. Typical mob boss passive/aggressive threat.
    I'm guessing it's the new "health care plan in two weeks". Desantis will call his bluff. And Trump will look stupid. But his supporters won't care, and he knows it. Win win for trump. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    ikiT said:

    ‘Where’d That Money Go?’ Watters Questions How Trump Spent His ‘Massive War Chest’ Before the Midterms

    The host of Jesse Watters Primetime said political action committees tied to Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell spent nearly $60 million boosting Mehmet Oz in Pennsylvania, only to lose the race. Watters then pointed to Senate races in Ohio and Arizona.

    “J.D. Vance won in Ohio,” Watters said. “Trump endorsed him. I like J.D., but McConnell had to plow about $32 million to help J.D. win in a state that Trump won by eight. That money could have gone to [Blake] Masters in Arizona. Now, Masters, who I also like didn’t raise enough dough – got outspent by about a billion dollars, a gazillion dollars. I can’t keep track.”

    Regarding the Senate race in Arizona where Democratic Sen. Mark Kelly seems headed for reelection over Masters, the Fox News was perplexed.

    “Nobody can even define what Kelly believes in, but it works,” he said. “All we know is that he’s an astronaut who has great manners or something. McConnell spent close to $400 million on these Senate candidates. I don’t know what goes on behind the scenes, but that is a lot of money. And we didn’t pick up a single seat? So, either some of these candidates are garbage or the money’s not being well spent.

    Watters then noted Trump is sitting on tens of millions of dollars he has raised.

    But Trump’s sitting on a massive war chest in Mar-a-Lago,” he noted. “Where’d that money go?” We don’t know.

    https://www.mediaite.com/politics/whered-that-money-go-watters-questions-how-trump-spent-his-massive-war-chest-before-the-midterms/

    I KNOW.
    Where did the money go? Where did the money go? 
    https://www.npr.org/2022/06/16/1105279623/jan-6-committee-trump-campaign-legal-defense-fund

    Ha....and he works for a supposed "news organization."

    I wonder how much money our maga elitist friends handed over to ol' Trumpy Bear.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,763
    KP_McMinn said:
    KP_McMinn said:
    Did i insult you?  You called me "caveman".  Pot meet kettle.  Typical liberal hypocrisy.  Ask your "specialist" how much you've lost since 2021 vs how much you gained since 2016.  Ask him how much you stand to lose in the next 2.  Bet he doesn't return your cal..... 
    Hey buddy...what do you think Trump was doing with all those top secret documents at maralago?

    Also....the market is higher right now compared to when trump left office. 

    He went with the "they planted it" defense because.....you know, because there's no defense for having it in the first place. 
    Guilty until proven innocent!  The liberal way! Jesus you he/hims really are a special bunch!  
    You know your rhetoric over the last few days is similar to that of the wackjob who tried to kill the speaker of the house? But, nah, you're not some far right extremist.
    Please share w/ the group the rhetoric from the right wing extremist whackjob who tried to kill the speakers Husband?  Be very careful, not a good look to spread FAKE News and all on this fact based forum of ours…lol    Good God the hypocrisy on here gets worse by the day, yet entertaining as ever and only gonna get more entertaining  in coming weeks…
    Entertained yet?
    Seriously. Where are our maga elitist friends? 
    In their bunkers cleaning their guns getting ready for the lib socialist apocalypse 
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    KP_McMinn said:
    KP_McMinn said:
    Did i insult you?  You called me "caveman".  Pot meet kettle.  Typical liberal hypocrisy.  Ask your "specialist" how much you've lost since 2021 vs how much you gained since 2016.  Ask him how much you stand to lose in the next 2.  Bet he doesn't return your cal..... 
    Hey buddy...what do you think Trump was doing with all those top secret documents at maralago?

    Also....the market is higher right now compared to when trump left office. 

    He went with the "they planted it" defense because.....you know, because there's no defense for having it in the first place. 
    Guilty until proven innocent!  The liberal way! Jesus you he/hims really are a special bunch!  
    You know your rhetoric over the last few days is similar to that of the wackjob who tried to kill the speaker of the house? But, nah, you're not some far right extremist.
    Please share w/ the group the rhetoric from the right wing extremist whackjob who tried to kill the speakers Husband?  Be very careful, not a good look to spread FAKE News and all on this fact based forum of ours…lol    Good God the hypocrisy on here gets worse by the day, yet entertaining as ever and only gonna get more entertaining  in coming weeks…
    Entertained yet?
    Seriously. Where are our maga elitist friends? 
    In their bunkers cleaning their guns getting ready for the lib socialist apocalypse 
    I am really curious as to their excuses/talking points though. I haven't even see my facebook "friends" talking about it. Will they dare blame their lord and savior, which would be the sane, rational thing to do? Or will they claim fraud again? Or will they just talk about how Florida got it right in their eyes? It will be interesting as they were SO confident just a few days ago...believing all those late republican leaning pollsters. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,976
    edited November 2022
    KP_McMinn said:
    KP_McMinn said:
    Did i insult you?  You called me "caveman".  Pot meet kettle.  Typical liberal hypocrisy.  Ask your "specialist" how much you've lost since 2021 vs how much you gained since 2016.  Ask him how much you stand to lose in the next 2.  Bet he doesn't return your cal..... 
    Hey buddy...what do you think Trump was doing with all those top secret documents at maralago?

    Also....the market is higher right now compared to when trump left office. 

    He went with the "they planted it" defense because.....you know, because there's no defense for having it in the first place. 
    Guilty until proven innocent!  The liberal way! Jesus you he/hims really are a special bunch!  
    You know your rhetoric over the last few days is similar to that of the wackjob who tried to kill the speaker of the house? But, nah, you're not some far right extremist.
    Please share w/ the group the rhetoric from the right wing extremist whackjob who tried to kill the speakers Husband?  Be very careful, not a good look to spread FAKE News and all on this fact based forum of ours…lol    Good God the hypocrisy on here gets worse by the day, yet entertaining as ever and only gonna get more entertaining  in coming weeks…
    Entertained yet?
    Seriously. Where are our maga elitist friends? 
    I believe we were told that, “we had no ‘idea’.”
    haha. that, we were. my guess is that certain poster will come on here in a couple weeks saying this is exactly what he predicted and the ones that mattered are the ones that won, blah blah blah. 
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