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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
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    Hence the temporary kerfluffle over Hunter Biden's laptop. A distraction from "real" news. What I find interesting is why the current DA is avoiding filing charges. Why? Did they get to him? Too much of a circus? Afraid of failure? Between this and Mark Meadows's voter fraud, if they don't file warranted charges, it will not bode well for the future. Regardless, I see a repub administration issuing pardons. This current repub corruption knows no bounds.

    Just wait until 2022 midterms and 2024. This country is really going to go down the shitter.
    You want to discuss corruption? Ask your Democrats why Trump hasn't been charged yet. The Democrats are in power and all we hear is that Trump broke the law. It shouldn't be so difficult if Democrats truly have proof. Not only that, if Trump did break the law, they have a civil duty to make sure he pays for his crimes. Not making him pay for those crimes is just as bad as any repub corruption.

    I don't agree with your last sentence whatsoever. Committing a crime is undoubtedly worse than being incapable of prosecuting someone for crimes. If your argument is that the failure to prosecute thus far is a demonstration of ineptitude, where the hell were you practically any time Trump opened his upper asshole (and by that I mean his mouth)? Were you concerned about the illusion of incompetence then?
    I have no power to change any of this. Go ahead and give me the power and I'll make sure that anyone that broke the law pays the price regardless of the letter next to their name.

    Either Trump is competent enough to not get into trouble or the people trying to convict him are incompetent or are just lying to you.

    I think you're confusing the different meanings of incompetent and how they apply. Trump can be an incompetent president because he's just not qualified to do it due to his lack of understanding/care for leading the whole country, but he can be competent at deception, lies and abusing power due to his extensive experience doing so in the private sector. Surely you understand this. He's a fucking crook and always has been.
    There are plenty of politicians that are crooks. Trump fits right in.

    It must be pretty frustrating to see Trump get away with whatever he wants when so many on this message board knows he is a crook.

    I just find it frustrating period when people like trump get away with shit like this. but such is life being a rich white guy. trump is not unique here. 
    I'm frustrated too. I am not a Trump sycophant and if what he has done warrants jail time, he should be rotting in jail along with any other criminal. I would prefer he go to jail so we can move on because so many on the left and right can't get over Trump.
    Who are the we that would move on after a Trump conviction? The majority of republicans would declare it a political witch hunt and a sham trial. We saw Trump get even more support even after committing crimes in the open. 
    Can someone please provide a list, with actual proof, of what crimes Trump personally committed?

    I'm just as tired as hearing how Trump broke the law as I am about how the election was stolen. I have friends that tell me the election was stolen. I tell them to show me the actual proof and they can't. If they can provide factual proof, I will believe it.

    Edit: In addition, it would be nice to know what crimes Trump committed and the reason why he wasn't convicted for them.

    Can do. Obstruction of justice, conspiracy, tax fraud, violating election law, extortion, breaking campaign finance laws, and violating the Presidential Records Act. Anyone add more if I forgot any.
    Note that these are just the acts which may be criminal. There's plenty which is just corrupt and/or despicable - like having visiting diplomats stay at the Trump Hotel to his own enrichment down the line, his vendetta against CoVID-19 testing lest it reveal the way it had spread, his request that Georgia "find a few more votes", mocking a mentally challenged individual at a rally, and a litany of truly cringe-worthy words and actions (typically at the expense of entire factions of the country). I don't care if the Hunter Biden laptop story is true - if Republicans want Democrats to hold their own to a higher standard, they should hold their own to any standard, point blank.

    Definitely could add a long list of ethical violations and general things that go under corruption. I tried to stick to the criminal behavior where we have strong evidence. Just the Emolument Clause violations bug the shit out of me enough. Then I can start to think about the "grab em" quote or the fact that he admitted to intentionally walking in on naked pageant contestants, and this was confirmed by girls that were in the Miss TEEN USA. Ugh.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,421
    edited March 2022
    andy borowitz has been commenting on the watson signing by the browns. many of the comments bring fuckstick in as a comparison of getting away with assualt of women.


    the best I've seen so far is one woman refers to fuckstick as the orange colon polyp .....

    love it.
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    Scotch free? I thought it was Scott? 

    Great Scott, I really don't know which is correct!
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,054
    edited March 2022
    Smaller crowd at his dumb rally and then this....his influence does seem to be waning




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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,421
    gift article.... Ted Cruz


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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,054
    https://www.axios.com/judge-trump-eastman-documents-jan-6-committee-8fe17985-75eb-4c28-a51e-b74760def3ec.html

    Judge says Trump and ally Eastman launched Jan. 6 "coup in search of a legal theory"

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    Former President Trump during a rally in Georgia on March 26
    Former President Trump during a rally in Georgia on March 26. Photo: Elijah Nouvelage/Bloomberg via Getty Images

    A federal judge on Monday ordered John Eastman, an attorney and staunch ally to former President Trump, to turn over a cache of documents to the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection.

    Why it matters: Judge David Carter wrote that Eastman and Trump "launched a campaign to overturn a democratic election, an action unprecedented in American history."

    • The select committee sought documents from Eastman that it believed would help show that Trump and his allies "engaged in a criminal conspiracy to defraud the United States," according to previous court filings for this case.
    • Eastman, who helped Trump during the final weeks of his presidency to develop a strategy to pressure former Vice President Mike Pence into overturning the results of the 2020 election, refused to turn over documents to the select committee, claiming that they were protected by attorney-client privilege.
    • Judge Carter determined that ten documents were privileged but the rest must be turned over to investigators.
    • "Based on the evidence, the Court finds it more likely than not that President Trump corruptly attempted to obstruct the Joint Session of Congress on January 6, 2021," Carter wrote.

    What they're saying: "Their campaign was not confined to the ivory tower—it was a coup in search of a legal theory," Carter wrote.

    • "The plan spurred violent attacks on the seat of our nation’s government, led to the deaths of several law enforcement officers, and deepened public distrust in our political process," he added.
    • "More than a year after the attack on our Capitol, the public is still searching for accountability. This case cannot provide it. The Court is tasked only with deciding a dispute over a handful of emails."
    • "This is not a criminal prosecution; this is not even a civil liability suit. At most, this case is a warning about the dangers of “legal theories” gone wrong, the powerful abusing public platforms, and desperation to win at all costs."

    The big picture: In previous filings for this case, the select committee outlined allegations of a potential criminal case against Trump and his allies.

    • It claimed to have evidence that could lead to Trump, Eastman and others potentially facing criminal violations charges, such as "obstructing an official proceeding of Congress and conspiracy to defraud the American people."

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,400
    https://www.axios.com/judge-trump-eastman-documents-jan-6-committee-8fe17985-75eb-4c28-a51e-b74760def3ec.html

    Judge says Trump and ally Eastman launched Jan. 6 "coup in search of a legal theory"

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    Former President Trump during a rally in Georgia on March 26
    Former President Trump during a rally in Georgia on March 26. Photo: Elijah Nouvelage/Bloomberg via Getty Images

    A federal judge on Monday ordered John Eastman, an attorney and staunch ally to former President Trump, to turn over a cache of documents to the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection.

    Why it matters: Judge David Carter wrote that Eastman and Trump "launched a campaign to overturn a democratic election, an action unprecedented in American history."

    • The select committee sought documents from Eastman that it believed would help show that Trump and his allies "engaged in a criminal conspiracy to defraud the United States," according to previous court filings for this case.
    • Eastman, who helped Trump during the final weeks of his presidency to develop a strategy to pressure former Vice President Mike Pence into overturning the results of the 2020 election, refused to turn over documents to the select committee, claiming that they were protected by attorney-client privilege.
    • Judge Carter determined that ten documents were privileged but the rest must be turned over to investigators.
    • "Based on the evidence, the Court finds it more likely than not that President Trump corruptly attempted to obstruct the Joint Session of Congress on January 6, 2021," Carter wrote.

    What they're saying: "Their campaign was not confined to the ivory tower—it was a coup in search of a legal theory," Carter wrote.

    • "The plan spurred violent attacks on the seat of our nation’s government, led to the deaths of several law enforcement officers, and deepened public distrust in our political process," he added.
    • "More than a year after the attack on our Capitol, the public is still searching for accountability. This case cannot provide it. The Court is tasked only with deciding a dispute over a handful of emails."
    • "This is not a criminal prosecution; this is not even a civil liability suit. At most, this case is a warning about the dangers of “legal theories” gone wrong, the powerful abusing public platforms, and desperation to win at all costs."

    The big picture: In previous filings for this case, the select committee outlined allegations of a potential criminal case against Trump and his allies.

    • It claimed to have evidence that could lead to Trump, Eastman and others potentially facing criminal violations charges, such as "obstructing an official proceeding of Congress and conspiracy to defraud the American people."

    They’ll appeal to SCOTUS and Clarence won’t recuse himself.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,677
    This Thomas thing is fucked up. Dems just don't go ballistic enough.
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  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    This Thomas thing is fucked up. Dems just don't go ballistic enough.
    Very true
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,677
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,677
    I had a hole in one once and I suck at golf.  
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,359
    edited March 2022
    yeah, a hole in one on a sub 200 yard hole is basically nothing, relative to the deal he's making about it. My dad golfs, averages around 80-90 per round, and has had two I think. 

    what an insecure little child. if he was as good at golf as he always says he is, he wouldn't need to put out a statement about this. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,359
    edited March 2022

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,054
    yeah, a hole in one on a sub 200 yard hole is basically nothing, relative to the deal he's making about it. My dad golfs, averages around 80-90 per round, and has had two I think. 

    what an insecure little child. if he was as good at golf as he always says he is, he wouldn't need to put out a statement about this. 
    It's actually a huge deal......but it's likely not true. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,359
    yeah, a hole in one on a sub 200 yard hole is basically nothing, relative to the deal he's making about it. My dad golfs, averages around 80-90 per round, and has had two I think. 

    what an insecure little child. if he was as good at golf as he always says he is, he wouldn't need to put out a statement about this. 
    It's actually a huge deal......but it's likely not true. 
    a huge deal for a guy who claims he's as good as the pros? sure, it was a massive deal for my dad (or for anyone). I was more meaning for this loser. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,836
    edited March 2022
    yeah, a hole in one on a sub 200 yard hole is basically nothing, relative to the deal he's making about it. My dad golfs, averages around 80-90 per round, and has had two I think. 

    what an insecure little child. if he was as good at golf as he always says he is, he wouldn't need to put out a statement about this. 
    It's actually a huge deal......but it's likely not true. 
    I'm an 8 index and still don't have one.  Got close a few weeks ago.  Been close a bunch of times, kick in.  I play with a guy that is a +3 and he's never had one either.  It doesn't tell me anything about Trump as a golfer or a person.  It's just strange.  
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,359
    mrussel1 said:
    yeah, a hole in one on a sub 200 yard hole is basically nothing, relative to the deal he's making about it. My dad golfs, averages around 80-90 per round, and has had two I think. 

    what an insecure little child. if he was as good at golf as he always says he is, he wouldn't need to put out a statement about this. 
    It's actually a huge deal......but it's likely not true. 
    I'm an 8 index and still don't have one.  Got close a few weeks ago.  Been close a bunch of times, kick in.  I play with a guy that is a +3 and he's never had one either.  It doesn't tell me anything about Trump as a golfer or a person.  It's just strange.  
    I only golf once or twice a year, so I don't know what those numbers mean. Your average over par or something?
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,677
    edited March 2022
    yeah, a hole in one on a sub 200 yard hole is basically nothing, relative to the deal he's making about it. My dad golfs, averages around 80-90 per round, and has had two I think. 

    what an insecure little child. if he was as good at golf as he always says he is, he wouldn't need to put out a statement about this. 
    mine was like a 185 yd par 3....basically nothing? Screw you!

    funny thing was I was absolutely ripped at the time...and the next hole I put two balls directly in the water from the tee
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,359
    yeah, a hole in one on a sub 200 yard hole is basically nothing, relative to the deal he's making about it. My dad golfs, averages around 80-90 per round, and has had two I think. 

    what an insecure little child. if he was as good at golf as he always says he is, he wouldn't need to put out a statement about this. 
    mine was like a 185 yd par 3....basically nothing? Screw you!

    funny thing was I was absolutely ripped at the time...and the next hole I put two balls directly in the water from the tee
    I'll say it again.....basically nothing to a guy who brags about being a pro. 
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,919
    Bryson DeChambeau is ranked 9th in the world and he has only one hole-in-one in his lifetime. In fact, it was at Augusta. Here it is…

    https://youtu.be/DDzApF9ytFA

    Somehow, my father has two. On the same hole no less. 
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    I don't even get holes in one on mini golf. lol. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,054
    edited March 2022
    I would encourage you to read Rick Reilly's Commander in Cheat book. The odds of this story being true are close to zero. Especially with a fat old man hitting only a 5 iron into a strong wind on a 190 yard hole.


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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,836
    Bryson DeChambeau is ranked 9th in the world and he has only one hole-in-one in his lifetime. In fact, it was at Augusta. Here it is…

    https://youtu.be/DDzApF9ytFA

    Somehow, my father has two. On the same hole no less. 
    yeah it's random.  The John Rahm hole in one where he skidded over the water is still the greatest shot I've ever seen. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lzuoTarQjs
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,836
    mrussel1 said:
    yeah, a hole in one on a sub 200 yard hole is basically nothing, relative to the deal he's making about it. My dad golfs, averages around 80-90 per round, and has had two I think. 

    what an insecure little child. if he was as good at golf as he always says he is, he wouldn't need to put out a statement about this. 
    It's actually a huge deal......but it's likely not true. 
    I'm an 8 index and still don't have one.  Got close a few weeks ago.  Been close a bunch of times, kick in.  I play with a guy that is a +3 and he's never had one either.  It doesn't tell me anything about Trump as a golfer or a person.  It's just strange.  
    I only golf once or twice a year, so I don't know what those numbers mean. Your average over par or something?
    Kind of.  You're thinking of handicap, but that's not used anymore.  It's called an index and much more complicated and frustrating.  
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,919
    Yeah that one was cool. My all-time favorite hole-out though is Jack Nicholas in this charity round with Johnny Miller. It’s like Michael Jordan’s eyes-closed free-throw multiplied by infinity. The ultimate “I’m the greatest at this” moment. 

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,359
    Yeah that one was cool. My all-time favorite hole-out though is Jack Nicholas in this charity round with Johnny Miller. It’s like Michael Jordan’s eyes-closed free-throw multiplied by infinity. The ultimate “I’m the greatest at this” moment. 

    that's insane. like, he barely even squared up before whacking it like he'd done it a thousand times before. 
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,195
    edited March 2022
    I golfed some in high school and have golfed like three times since, so what I say is just how my semi-understanding sees the luck/skill relationship to getting a hole-in-one.

    A-hole in-one is cool. Once you are at some level of golfing competence (not me), you are more frequently going to put balls near the cup on par-3s. After that, it's luck and the greatest golfer may have one in a lifetime (or even none), while a lesser competent golfer could have three.

    My dad was probably not at that level of competence and he still got one. It was pretty cool for him...didn't mean much in the long run.

    I neither know, nor care, how good of a golfer Trump is. A hole-in-one?  Good for him. But making a big deal out of it to as national of an audience as you can is kinda sad. But what else would one expect from the most famous insecure person of all time?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,836
    yeah, a hole in one on a sub 200 yard hole is basically nothing, relative to the deal he's making about it. My dad golfs, averages around 80-90 per round, and has had two I think. 

    what an insecure little child. if he was as good at golf as he always says he is, he wouldn't need to put out a statement about this. 
    mine was like a 185 yd par 3....basically nothing? Screw you!

    funny thing was I was absolutely ripped at the time...and the next hole I put two balls directly in the water from the tee
    185 is no joke for a hole in one.  If it was a 90 yarder from the reds, then we'd scoff!  But even then, you only get a few hole outs a year anyway, so I'd take it!  
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,677
    mrussel1 said:
    yeah, a hole in one on a sub 200 yard hole is basically nothing, relative to the deal he's making about it. My dad golfs, averages around 80-90 per round, and has had two I think. 

    what an insecure little child. if he was as good at golf as he always says he is, he wouldn't need to put out a statement about this. 
    mine was like a 185 yd par 3....basically nothing? Screw you!

    funny thing was I was absolutely ripped at the time...and the next hole I put two balls directly in the water from the tee
    185 is no joke for a hole in one.  If it was a 90 yarder from the reds, then we'd scoff!  But even then, you only get a few hole outs a year anyway, so I'd take it!  
    I remember the hole/flag was near the front of the green...there was a little hill in front of the green so we couldn't really see where the ball went.  We didn't think much of it but I remember we approached the hole and wondered where my ball was and found it in the hole.
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