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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    did anybody see junior this week? dude needs to go to fuckin rehab. he looks like shit.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,545
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    did anybody see junior this week? dude needs to go to fuckin rehab. he looks like shit.
    Maybe that’s why he said the covid deaths are next to zero, almost gone, the other night on Faux News. Cocaine induced delusions or nightmares of prison “culture?”
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,213
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    OnWis97 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    OnWis97 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Is there a realistic  chance trump wins. ??The media here makes it look possible. Wtf is going  on. 
    This guy can only be seen as a narc and a cancer on the  world.
    The question is, is there a realistic chance he loses? The difference is going to be the mail in votes not getting in time on in a few key states.

    I would amend that to be that the difference could be the mail in votes not being counted in a few key states.
    We should be focused on counting every vote.  Instead the shitheads are working overtime to invalidate as many of those mail in votes as possible, using each crazy state rule book as best they can.

    It is a total travishamockery that we do not have a consistent rule to allow people to make sure their votes are counted with mail in voting, period, but especially in a year where large gatherings could be dangerous to the health of people.



    People in Charge of Voting, in general, in America:

    it's the responsibility of the voter to know the laws of their region. they've all had plenty of time to vote by mail to get it in on time. do repubs suppress the vote in many instances? of course they do. it's the only way they can win in many situations. but being able to count all the votes on election day makes sense to me. 

    In Minnesota the rule was changed yesterday. There were probably already votes in the mail that will now not be counted. This is not about voter responsibility.  This is the federal courts putting its Thumb on the scale for their guy.
    was it changed, or the current rules upheld? this is what mace was trying to determine. wasn't it the secretary of state the one changing the rules and the courts upheld the previous rule?

    Turns out I was wrong. The screw up was the Minnesota Sec of State office. I can't totally blame the voters who fuck this up; but the blame is on (mostly dems) here and not the feds.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    So we’re supposed to just disregard the fact that the USPS was blatantly manipulated and we immediately seen the effects, it improved for a time, and in the past few weeks it’s gone back to the blatant fuckery setting?
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,523
    separate incidents. of course no one is supposed to ignore that. this admin will do anything it can to retain power. i think this is only the beginning of what we'll see next week. 
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    the voters do not make the election results.

    the counters do.

    if you keep mail in votes, mostly democrats, away from the counters, the republicans who will overwhelmingly vote in person will have the advantage.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,523
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    the voters do not make the election results.

    the counters do.

    if you keep mail in votes, mostly democrats, away from the counters, the republicans who will overwhelmingly vote in person will have the advantage.
    i still (want to) believe that the disparity between dem votes and repub votes will be enough, even with republican suppression efforts. 
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    the voters do not make the election results.

    the counters do.

    if you keep mail in votes, mostly democrats, away from the counters, the republicans who will overwhelmingly vote in person will have the advantage.
    i still (want to) believe that the disparity between dem votes and repub votes will be enough, even with republican suppression efforts. 
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    the voters do not make the election results.

    the counters do.

    if you keep mail in votes, mostly democrats, away from the counters, the republicans who will overwhelmingly vote in person will have the advantage.
    i still (want to) believe that the disparity between dem votes and repub votes will be enough, even with republican suppression efforts. 
    i want to too but i lived through the 2000 election and the 2016 election. most states are red or blue and the fuckery happens in the states that can swing either way. fuckery is happening. i just hope the blue turnout is enough to overcome the fuckery. i don't think i could live under another 4 years of trump and the gop controlled senate.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,213
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    the voters do not make the election results.

    the counters do.

    if you keep mail in votes, mostly democrats, away from the counters, the republicans who will overwhelmingly vote in person will have the advantage.
    i still (want to) believe that the disparity between dem votes and repub votes will be enough, even with republican suppression efforts. 
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    the voters do not make the election results.

    the counters do.

    if you keep mail in votes, mostly democrats, away from the counters, the republicans who will overwhelmingly vote in person will have the advantage.
    i still (want to) believe that the disparity between dem votes and repub votes will be enough, even with republican suppression efforts. 
    i want to too but i lived through the 2000 election and the 2016 election. most states are red or blue and the fuckery happens in the states that can swing either way. fuckery is happening. i just hope the blue turnout is enough to overcome the fuckery. i don't think i could live under another 4 years of trump and the gop controlled senate.

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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,168
    OnWis97 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    the voters do not make the election results.

    the counters do.

    if you keep mail in votes, mostly democrats, away from the counters, the republicans who will overwhelmingly vote in person will have the advantage.
    i still (want to) believe that the disparity between dem votes and repub votes will be enough, even with republican suppression efforts. 
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    the voters do not make the election results.

    the counters do.

    if you keep mail in votes, mostly democrats, away from the counters, the republicans who will overwhelmingly vote in person will have the advantage.
    i still (want to) believe that the disparity between dem votes and repub votes will be enough, even with republican suppression efforts. 
    i want to too but i lived through the 2000 election and the 2016 election. most states are red or blue and the fuckery happens in the states that can swing either way. fuckery is happening. i just hope the blue turnout is enough to overcome the fuckery. i don't think i could live under another 4 years of trump and the gop controlled senate.

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    California: The Sunshine State
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    Caliornia is The Golden State.

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    lil wayne endorsed trump.

    for whatever that is worth. 

    probably not much.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,886
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    lil wayne endorsed trump.

    for whatever that is worth. 

    probably not much.
    Throw in Ice Cube and 50 Cent as well
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,982
    Bentleyspop said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    lil wayne endorsed trump.

    for whatever that is worth. 

    probably not much.
    Throw in Ice Cube and 50 Cent as well
    50 cent retracted, but still.. .what does it matter? 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,545
    Bentleyspop said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    lil wayne endorsed trump.

    for whatever that is worth. 

    probably not much.
    Throw in Ice Cube and 50 Cent as well
    But De La Soul and Public Enemy are ridin with Biden 


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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    mrussel1 said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    lil wayne endorsed trump.

    for whatever that is worth. 

    probably not much.
    Throw in Ice Cube and 50 Cent as well
    50 cent retracted, but still.. .what does it matter? 
    only because chelsea handler offered to pay his taxes and get back together with him.
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,472
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    lil wayne endorsed trump.

    for whatever that is worth. 

    probably not much.
    Throw in Ice Cube and 50 Cent as well
    But De La Soul and Public Enemy are ridin with Biden 


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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,523
    i wonder if the "celebrities should shut their mouths on politics" are saying the same to lil wayne, ice cubicle and fitty?
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,213
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    i wonder if the "celebrities should shut their mouths on politics" are saying the same to lil wayne, ice cubicle and fitty?
    Oh hell no.  It's different when they go red.

    I remember when Vince Vaughn declared his support for Trump. I scrolled through Twitter and saw all the outrage at how pissed off the libs were over this.  Then it hit me, I was legitimately seeing 25 posts accusing us of being upset at Vince for every post actually upset with him.  More projection. Shut up and dribble.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,545
    Brett Favre Bean came out for Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat. There goes Wisconsin.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,523
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Brett Favre Bean came out for Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat. There goes Wisconsin.
    funny how all these rich people are coming out as trumpsters....yet democrats are the elite?
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  • jerparker20jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,514
    Biden is holding a rally two blocks from my house. Got to see MAGA folk up close in their element. It’s a cult.
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    Look at Favre.  If he was a broke nobody he would still love Grab Em By The P Donny Boy
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,229
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Brett Favre Bean came out for Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat. There goes Wisconsin.
    Fuck him and all cheeseheads! 
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Brett Favre Bean came out for Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat. There goes Wisconsin.
    he sent unsolicited dick pics to women in local media while he was playing. his judgement is questionable at best...
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,982
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Brett Favre Bean came out for Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat. There goes Wisconsin.
    he sent unsolicited dick pics to women in local media while he was playing. his judgement is questionable at best...
    He's from fucking Mississippi.
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    The doctors get more money if it's covid...you know that, right?

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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    I am exactly 0% surprised when wealthy white men vote for Trump. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,545
    BOO! 




    They’re coming for you, oh yea, oh yea, they’re coming for you, ohhhhhhhh yeaaaaa, you

    BOO!


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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,066
    They actually had a blank next to Eddie and Pearl Jam

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,982
    igotid88 said:
    They actually had a blank next to Eddie and Pearl Jam

    Shut up and dribble 
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