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  • my2hands
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    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    People excusing even the thought of Americans celebrating the 9/11 attacks?

    I'm all for freedom of speech, but c'mon folks? That wasn't a rally of fucking Illinois Nazi's, that was a disastrous terrorist attack. 
    It's easy to be for freedom of speech when it isn't objectionable.  The test of the amendment is when we find the speech reprehensible.  
    I'm well aware..... There's a fine line between upholding rights, and being an apologist for assholes, and the vibe i'm getting from some is the latter
  • josevolution
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    dignin said:
    Found a copy of the whitehouse redacted Mueller report.       (on Reddit ;) )

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    lol Barr is fat fucking criminal ! 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,146
    The funny thing is that there’s precedence for grand jury testimony to be shared with the house intelligence committee. And you can believe there’s going to be subpoenas for testimony from Team Mueller. It’s just a matter of time.

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  • mcgruff10
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    edited March 2019
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    People excusing even the thought of Americans celebrating the 9/11 attacks?

    I'm all for freedom of speech, but c'mon folks? That wasn't a rally of fucking Illinois Nazi's, that was a disastrous terrorist attack. 
    It's easy to be for freedom of speech when it isn't objectionable.  The test of the amendment is when we find the speech reprehensible.  
    True.  But those people celebrating deserve a genuine ass whooping.  
    And somewhere in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, etc. is a grieving widow whose family was killed in a drone strike who feels the same way and thus the cycle continues. It's the pathetic human need for vengeance.
    If you don’t fly airplanes into buildings then none of that happens. Imagine what would happen to people If they celebrated a drone strike in Syria or Afghanistan?  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • josevolution
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    If you’re an American and you are ok with Barr telling us that “yeah there’s no obstruction of justice “ and not release the report you’re part of the problem...
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  • josevolution
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    https://amp.thestate.com/news/politics-government/article228438854.html
    Coward Graham will ultimately pay the price !!
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    People excusing even the thought of Americans celebrating the 9/11 attacks?

    I'm all for freedom of speech, but c'mon folks? That wasn't a rally of fucking Illinois Nazi's, that was a disastrous terrorist attack. 
    It's easy to be for freedom of speech when it isn't objectionable.  The test of the amendment is when we find the speech reprehensible.  
    If you’re an American celebrating the tower attacks on the day they occurred... then from my way of thinking... you’re an enemy of the people and should be treated as such.
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  • josevolution
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    If you’re an American and are ok with the Baffoon wanting to strip Obamacare from tens of millions of Americans you are the problem , this fucking ugly orange Baffoon has to be stopped what an ugly human..
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    People excusing even the thought of Americans celebrating the 9/11 attacks?

    I'm all for freedom of speech, but c'mon folks? That wasn't a rally of fucking Illinois Nazi's, that was a disastrous terrorist attack. 
    It's easy to be for freedom of speech when it isn't objectionable.  The test of the amendment is when we find the speech reprehensible.  
    If you’re an American celebrating the tower attacks on the day they occurred... then from my way of thinking... you’re an enemy of the people and should be treated as such.
    What does the law say on the matter? I think I'd take it over your way of thinking. Yes, there are probably people in America who legitimately hate America. No, that doesn't give you the right to do harm unto them, until they do (or indicate they will do) harm unto you. 
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    josevolution said:
    If you’re an American and are ok with the Baffoon wanting to strip Obamacare from tens of millions of Americans you are the problem , this fucking ugly orange Baffoon has to be stopped what an ugly human..
    He’s promising something better. He will never deliver.

    You guys are stuck with him for better and for worse. You might just have to wait until the morons that keep are directly impacted to the point they cannot deny his shitiness.

    And if that day never comes? Well... I guess you can call yourselves somewhat lucky and will just have to hate him and laugh at him every time he walks out of the dumper with ass wipe stuck to the bottom of his shoe.

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,146
    Ah, fuck the 1st Amendment. Who needs it anyhow?
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Ah, fuck the 1st Amendment. Who needs it anyhow?
    No. Instead... use it to your advantage!

    You sure like to get choosy over which amendments are set in stone and which are in need of change.
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Ah, fuck the 1st Amendment. Who needs it anyhow?
    Does everything get bumped up after one gets the boot? It'd be a pretty bizarre gesture if overnight the 1st Amendment changed from the right to free speech to the right to bear arms. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Ah, fuck the 1st Amendment. Who needs it anyhow?
    No. Instead... use it to your advantage!

    You sure like to get choosy over which amendments are set in stone and which are in need of change.
    What other amendments have I advocated for changing? And regardless, if I disagree with it, it should be amended via the constitutional process for amending the constitution. And last time I checked, voicing an opinion never killed anyone. Can’t say the same for some of the others.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    edited March 2019
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    People excusing even the thought of Americans celebrating the 9/11 attacks?

    I'm all for freedom of speech, but c'mon folks? That wasn't a rally of fucking Illinois Nazi's, that was a disastrous terrorist attack. 
    It's easy to be for freedom of speech when it isn't objectionable.  The test of the amendment is when we find the speech reprehensible.  
    I'm well aware..... There's a fine line between upholding rights, and being an apologist for assholes, and the vibe i'm getting from some is the latter
    There’s also a difference between being their apologist and defending their right to do what they did. I don’t really think I see anyone doing the former. I do however see some suggesting that it should be punishable.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    People excusing even the thought of Americans celebrating the 9/11 attacks?

    I'm all for freedom of speech, but c'mon folks? That wasn't a rally of fucking Illinois Nazi's, that was a disastrous terrorist attack. 
    It's easy to be for freedom of speech when it isn't objectionable.  The test of the amendment is when we find the speech reprehensible.  
    If you’re an American celebrating the tower attacks on the day they occurred... then from my way of thinking... you’re an enemy of the people and should be treated as such.

    Enemy of the people...that seems to be a common excuse for relaxing the first amendment.
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  • oftenreading
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    OnWis97 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    People excusing even the thought of Americans celebrating the 9/11 attacks?

    I'm all for freedom of speech, but c'mon folks? That wasn't a rally of fucking Illinois Nazi's, that was a disastrous terrorist attack. 
    It's easy to be for freedom of speech when it isn't objectionable.  The test of the amendment is when we find the speech reprehensible.  
    If you’re an American celebrating the tower attacks on the day they occurred... then from my way of thinking... you’re an enemy of the people and should be treated as such.

    Enemy of the people...that seems to be a common excuse for relaxing the first amendment.

    I would hope that the bar for being defined as an "enemy of the people" would be placed higher than a nebulous "thinking bad thoughts" and would instead be at about the level of taking some sort of action to cause harm. Historically, it has been dicey to prosecute people simply for the thoughts they may have. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,146
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Ah, fuck the 1st Amendment. Who needs it anyhow?
    No. Instead... use it to your advantage!

    You sure like to get choosy over which amendments are set in stone and which are in need of change.
    And isn’t that the right of every American as well? Does flag burning offend you? How about a Klan rally on the state house steps in full regalia? How about the Westboro Baptist Church protesting funerals of service members? Gay pride parades? Million Man March? Pussy hats? Confederate flags flying on pick up trucks? Proud Boy rallies? Antifa counter protesting white supremacy? Guess we should have rounded up all the Muslims when we had the chance?
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    Free speech and spitting and dancing on the graves of innocent people killed in a massive terrorist attack are two different things in my mind.

    If they aren’t in yours then no biggie. We can agree to disagree.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Free speech and spitting and dancing on the graves of innocent people killed in a massive terrorist attack are two different things in my mind.

    If they aren’t in yours then no biggie. We can agree to disagree.
    The one article that I read that mcgruff posted didn’t make mention of spitting and dancing on graves nor have I been choosy about which amendments need revision as I don’t believe I’ve ever posted an opinion on it. There’s disagreement and then there’s projection. Unless you have me confused with someone else?
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