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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,769
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
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    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    People excusing even the thought of Americans celebrating the 9/11 attacks?

    I'm all for freedom of speech, but c'mon folks? That wasn't a rally of fucking Illinois Nazi's, that was a disastrous terrorist attack. 
    It's easy to be for freedom of speech when it isn't objectionable.  The test of the amendment is when we find the speech reprehensible.  
    If you’re an American celebrating the tower attacks on the day they occurred... then from my way of thinking... you’re an enemy of the people and should be treated as such.

    Enemy of the people...that seems to be a common excuse for relaxing the first amendment.
    I have no problem with that in this instance.  You celebrate while in view of the towers, yeah your ass should be thrown in jail or get a severe beating.  In my mind those actions speak volumes, you are supporting the enemies of the United States.  
    You're advocating lawlessness and vigilante justice.  We used to have quite a bit of that in the South only 50 years ago.  
    I'm ok with it in this instance.  The 1950's, no way Jose.  
    Dude.. you're a history teacher aren't you?  Why is this okay, because you agree with it?  Is it okay also when a black guy rapes a white woman?  When isn't it okay?
    I teach history but like many others I am a person that was greatly effected by 9/11.  I stand by my opinion.  Sorry bud, no one should have been publicly celebrating the deaths of nearly 3,000 civilians especially while in view of the New York skyline.  
    Let's agree to disagree and move on.  
    I was as well, as I worked in NOVA at the time.  But as soon as you open the gate to allow vigilante justice, then it becomes a pogrom pretty quickly.  And don't think those don't occur.  There was a massive one in India 20 years ago where thousands of ethnic minorities were murdered because of something an individual did.  You give people a green light to exercise their prejudices without consequences.  There's no agreeing to disagree.  You either support the rule of law or you don't.  It's pretty straightforward.  
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
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    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    People excusing even the thought of Americans celebrating the 9/11 attacks?

    I'm all for freedom of speech, but c'mon folks? That wasn't a rally of fucking Illinois Nazi's, that was a disastrous terrorist attack. 
    It's easy to be for freedom of speech when it isn't objectionable.  The test of the amendment is when we find the speech reprehensible.  
    If you’re an American celebrating the tower attacks on the day they occurred... then from my way of thinking... you’re an enemy of the people and should be treated as such.

    Enemy of the people...that seems to be a common excuse for relaxing the first amendment.
    I have no problem with that in this instance.  You celebrate while in view of the towers, yeah your ass should be thrown in jail or get a severe beating.  In my mind those actions speak volumes, you are supporting the enemies of the United States.  
    You're advocating lawlessness and vigilante justice.  We used to have quite a bit of that in the South only 50 years ago.  
    I'm ok with it in this instance.  The 1950's, no way Jose.  
    Dude.. you're a history teacher aren't you?  Why is this okay, because you agree with it?  Is it okay also when a black guy rapes a white woman?  When isn't it okay?
    I teach history but like many others I am a person that was greatly effected by 9/11.  I stand by my opinion.  Sorry bud, no one should have been publicly celebrating the deaths of nearly 3,000 civilians especially while in view of the New York skyline.  
    Let's agree to disagree and move on.  
    Nobody was. And if you're going to post a New York Post article as evidence, I've got a bridge to sell you.

    Your gonna have to come up with some legit evidence, not just rumours.
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,498
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    People excusing even the thought of Americans celebrating the 9/11 attacks?

    I'm all for freedom of speech, but c'mon folks? That wasn't a rally of fucking Illinois Nazi's, that was a disastrous terrorist attack. 
    It's easy to be for freedom of speech when it isn't objectionable.  The test of the amendment is when we find the speech reprehensible.  
    If you’re an American celebrating the tower attacks on the day they occurred... then from my way of thinking... you’re an enemy of the people and should be treated as such.

    Enemy of the people...that seems to be a common excuse for relaxing the first amendment.
    I have no problem with that in this instance.  You celebrate while in view of the towers, yeah your ass should be thrown in jail or get a severe beating.  In my mind those actions speak volumes, you are supporting the enemies of the United States.  
    You're advocating lawlessness and vigilante justice.  We used to have quite a bit of that in the South only 50 years ago.  
    I'm ok with it in this instance.  The 1950's, no way Jose.  
    Dude.. you're a history teacher aren't you?  Why is this okay, because you agree with it?  Is it okay also when a black guy rapes a white woman?  When isn't it okay?
    I teach history but like many others I am a person that was greatly effected by 9/11.  I stand by my opinion.  Sorry bud, no one should have been publicly celebrating the deaths of nearly 3,000 civilians especially while in view of the New York skyline.  
    Let's agree to disagree and move on.  
    Except apparently it didn't happen, so.... there's that.
    dignin said:
    Anyways, the whole premise that Muslims were celebrating in New Jersey after the towers fell is complete bullshit.

    Interesting conversation but started on a lie. As has been already stated, it's been investigated at length and debunked many times. 

    https://www.snopes.com/news/2015/11/22/donald-trump-cheering-911/

  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,144
    dignin said:
    Anyways, the whole premise that Muslims were celebrating in New Jersey after the towers fell is complete bullshit.

    Interesting conversation but started on a lie. As has been already stated, it's been investigated at length and debunked many times. 

    https://www.snopes.com/news/2015/11/22/donald-trump-cheering-911/
    It definitely isn’t bull shit as proven by the two articles I posted. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,918
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    Anyways, the whole premise that Muslims were celebrating in New Jersey after the towers fell is complete bullshit.

    Interesting conversation but started on a lie. As has been already stated, it's been investigated at length and debunked many times. 

    https://www.snopes.com/news/2015/11/22/donald-trump-cheering-911/
    It definitely isn’t bull shit as proven by the two articles I posted. 
    It doesn't matter if it happened or not.  People are allowed to be aholes in this country.  They are allowed to be scumbags.  They are allowed to celebrate our enemies, which Jane Fonda did during Vietnam as an easy example.  But that doesn't give anyone the right to beat the shit out of Jane Fonda or string her up. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,769
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    Anyways, the whole premise that Muslims were celebrating in New Jersey after the towers fell is complete bullshit.

    Interesting conversation but started on a lie. As has been already stated, it's been investigated at length and debunked many times. 

    https://www.snopes.com/news/2015/11/22/donald-trump-cheering-911/
    It definitely isn’t bull shit as proven by the two articles I posted. 
    It doesn't matter if it happened or not.  People are allowed to be aholes in this country.  They are allowed to be scumbags.  They are allowed to celebrate our enemies, which Jane Fonda did during Vietnam as an easy example.  But that doesn't give anyone the right to beat the shit out of Jane Fonda or string her up. 
    this is what people are missing. whether it happened or not does not matter. 
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  • rustneversleeps
    rustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    Anyways, the whole premise that Muslims were celebrating in New Jersey after the towers fell is complete bullshit.

    Interesting conversation but started on a lie. As has been already stated, it's been investigated at length and debunked many times. 

    https://www.snopes.com/news/2015/11/22/donald-trump-cheering-911/
    It definitely isn’t bull shit as proven by the two articles I posted. 
    that scum should have been tortured to death, slowly.  
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Maybe we should just drop the charges against the Florida pipe bomber, then?
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,144
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    People excusing even the thought of Americans celebrating the 9/11 attacks?

    I'm all for freedom of speech, but c'mon folks? That wasn't a rally of fucking Illinois Nazi's, that was a disastrous terrorist attack. 
    It's easy to be for freedom of speech when it isn't objectionable.  The test of the amendment is when we find the speech reprehensible.  
    If you’re an American celebrating the tower attacks on the day they occurred... then from my way of thinking... you’re an enemy of the people and should be treated as such.

    Enemy of the people...that seems to be a common excuse for relaxing the first amendment.
    I have no problem with that in this instance.  You celebrate while in view of the towers, yeah your ass should be thrown in jail or get a severe beating.  In my mind those actions speak volumes, you are supporting the enemies of the United States.  
    You're advocating lawlessness and vigilante justice.  We used to have quite a bit of that in the South only 50 years ago.  
    I'm ok with it in this instance.  The 1950's, no way Jose.  
    Dude.. you're a history teacher aren't you?  Why is this okay, because you agree with it?  Is it okay also when a black guy rapes a white woman?  When isn't it okay?
    I teach history but like many others I am a person that was greatly effected by 9/11.  I stand by my opinion.  Sorry bud, no one should have been publicly celebrating the deaths of nearly 3,000 civilians especially while in view of the New York skyline.  
    Let's agree to disagree and move on.  
    I was as well, as I worked in NOVA at the time.  But as soon as you open the gate to allow vigilante justice, then it becomes a pogrom pretty quickly.  And don't think those don't occur.  There was a massive one in India 20 years ago where thousands of ethnic minorities were murdered because of something an individual did.  You give people a green light to exercise their prejudices without consequences.  There's no agreeing to disagree.  You either support the rule of law or you don't.  It's pretty straightforward.  
    fI the people who were celebrating the attack were beat up, then I would hope that they (the people throwing the punches) would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.  However the people celebrating definitely deserved to get a punch or five to the face.  It's like being a Yankees fan and running your mouth at Fenway, you just don't do it.  Use common sense. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,918
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    Anyways, the whole premise that Muslims were celebrating in New Jersey after the towers fell is complete bullshit.

    Interesting conversation but started on a lie. As has been already stated, it's been investigated at length and debunked many times. 

    https://www.snopes.com/news/2015/11/22/donald-trump-cheering-911/
    It definitely isn’t bull shit as proven by the two articles I posted. 
    that scum should have been tortured to death, slowly.  
    If you truly believe this, you are both inhumane and not worthy of living under the Constitution and the blanket of freedom it provides.  
  • rustneversleeps
    rustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    People excusing even the thought of Americans celebrating the 9/11 attacks?

    I'm all for freedom of speech, but c'mon folks? That wasn't a rally of fucking Illinois Nazi's, that was a disastrous terrorist attack. 
    It's easy to be for freedom of speech when it isn't objectionable.  The test of the amendment is when we find the speech reprehensible.  
    If you’re an American celebrating the tower attacks on the day they occurred... then from my way of thinking... you’re an enemy of the people and should be treated as such.

    Enemy of the people...that seems to be a common excuse for relaxing the first amendment.
    I have no problem with that in this instance.  You celebrate while in view of the towers, yeah your ass should be thrown in jail or get a severe beating.  In my mind those actions speak volumes, you are supporting the enemies of the United States.  
    You're advocating lawlessness and vigilante justice.  We used to have quite a bit of that in the South only 50 years ago.  
    I'm ok with it in this instance.  The 1950's, no way Jose.  
    Dude.. you're a history teacher aren't you?  Why is this okay, because you agree with it?  Is it okay also when a black guy rapes a white woman?  When isn't it okay?
    I teach history but like many others I am a person that was greatly effected by 9/11.  I stand by my opinion.  Sorry bud, no one should have been publicly celebrating the deaths of nearly 3,000 civilians especially while in view of the New York skyline.  
    Let's agree to disagree and move on.  
    I was as well, as I worked in NOVA at the time.  But as soon as you open the gate to allow vigilante justice, then it becomes a pogrom pretty quickly.  And don't think those don't occur.  There was a massive one in India 20 years ago where thousands of ethnic minorities were murdered because of something an individual did.  You give people a green light to exercise their prejudices without consequences.  There's no agreeing to disagree.  You either support the rule of law or you don't.  It's pretty straightforward.  
    fI the people who were celebrating the attack were beat up, then I would hope that they (the people throwing the punches) would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.  However the people celebrating definitely deserved to get a punch or five to the face.  It's like being a Yankees fan and running your mouth at Fenway, you just don't do it.  Use common sense. 
    exactly.  i would have happily taken the charges handed to me for a few swings at their heads with a Louisville Slugger.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,918
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    People excusing even the thought of Americans celebrating the 9/11 attacks?

    I'm all for freedom of speech, but c'mon folks? That wasn't a rally of fucking Illinois Nazi's, that was a disastrous terrorist attack. 
    It's easy to be for freedom of speech when it isn't objectionable.  The test of the amendment is when we find the speech reprehensible.  
    If you’re an American celebrating the tower attacks on the day they occurred... then from my way of thinking... you’re an enemy of the people and should be treated as such.

    Enemy of the people...that seems to be a common excuse for relaxing the first amendment.
    I have no problem with that in this instance.  You celebrate while in view of the towers, yeah your ass should be thrown in jail or get a severe beating.  In my mind those actions speak volumes, you are supporting the enemies of the United States.  
    You're advocating lawlessness and vigilante justice.  We used to have quite a bit of that in the South only 50 years ago.  
    I'm ok with it in this instance.  The 1950's, no way Jose.  
    Dude.. you're a history teacher aren't you?  Why is this okay, because you agree with it?  Is it okay also when a black guy rapes a white woman?  When isn't it okay?
    I teach history but like many others I am a person that was greatly effected by 9/11.  I stand by my opinion.  Sorry bud, no one should have been publicly celebrating the deaths of nearly 3,000 civilians especially while in view of the New York skyline.  
    Let's agree to disagree and move on.  
    I was as well, as I worked in NOVA at the time.  But as soon as you open the gate to allow vigilante justice, then it becomes a pogrom pretty quickly.  And don't think those don't occur.  There was a massive one in India 20 years ago where thousands of ethnic minorities were murdered because of something an individual did.  You give people a green light to exercise their prejudices without consequences.  There's no agreeing to disagree.  You either support the rule of law or you don't.  It's pretty straightforward.  
    fI the people who were celebrating the attack were beat up, then I would hope that they (the people throwing the punches) would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.  However the people celebrating definitely deserved to get a punch or five to the face.  It's like being a Yankees fan and running your mouth at Fenway, you just don't do it.  Use common sense. 
    Ha, well that's a bit of a different argument.  Sure, punch away and then go to jail for assault.  
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    Anyways, the whole premise that Muslims were celebrating in New Jersey after the towers fell is complete bullshit.

    Interesting conversation but started on a lie. As has been already stated, it's been investigated at length and debunked many times. 

    https://www.snopes.com/news/2015/11/22/donald-trump-cheering-911/
    It definitely isn’t bull shit as proven by the two articles I posted. 
    It doesn't matter if it happened or not.  People are allowed to be aholes in this country.  They are allowed to be scumbags.  They are allowed to celebrate our enemies, which Jane Fonda did during Vietnam as an easy example.  But that doesn't give anyone the right to beat the shit out of Jane Fonda or string her up. 
    this is what people are missing. whether it happened or not does not matter. 
    Just look at some of the comments in here. If you were a Muslim and people were hanging this lie on you it sure as hell would matter.
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Americans are famous for being bad in geography, maybe they confused NJ with...East Jerusalem.  I imagine NJ is much like the middle east, easy mistake to make... 

    What ABC News Footage Shows of 9/11 Celebrations
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/abc-news-footage-shows-911-celebrations/story?id=35534125

    Instead, there are repeated mentions on ABC News of celebrations on Sept. 11 among a group of Palestinians in East Jerusalem, 5,700 miles away from New Jersey

    Give Peas A Chance…
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,144
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    People excusing even the thought of Americans celebrating the 9/11 attacks?

    I'm all for freedom of speech, but c'mon folks? That wasn't a rally of fucking Illinois Nazi's, that was a disastrous terrorist attack. 
    It's easy to be for freedom of speech when it isn't objectionable.  The test of the amendment is when we find the speech reprehensible.  
    If you’re an American celebrating the tower attacks on the day they occurred... then from my way of thinking... you’re an enemy of the people and should be treated as such.

    Enemy of the people...that seems to be a common excuse for relaxing the first amendment.
    I have no problem with that in this instance.  You celebrate while in view of the towers, yeah your ass should be thrown in jail or get a severe beating.  In my mind those actions speak volumes, you are supporting the enemies of the United States.  
    You're advocating lawlessness and vigilante justice.  We used to have quite a bit of that in the South only 50 years ago.  
    I'm ok with it in this instance.  The 1950's, no way Jose.  
    Dude.. you're a history teacher aren't you?  Why is this okay, because you agree with it?  Is it okay also when a black guy rapes a white woman?  When isn't it okay?
    I teach history but like many others I am a person that was greatly effected by 9/11.  I stand by my opinion.  Sorry bud, no one should have been publicly celebrating the deaths of nearly 3,000 civilians especially while in view of the New York skyline.  
    Let's agree to disagree and move on.  
    I was as well, as I worked in NOVA at the time.  But as soon as you open the gate to allow vigilante justice, then it becomes a pogrom pretty quickly.  And don't think those don't occur.  There was a massive one in India 20 years ago where thousands of ethnic minorities were murdered because of something an individual did.  You give people a green light to exercise their prejudices without consequences.  There's no agreeing to disagree.  You either support the rule of law or you don't.  It's pretty straightforward.  
    fI the people who were celebrating the attack were beat up, then I would hope that they (the people throwing the punches) would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.  However the people celebrating definitely deserved to get a punch or five to the face.  It's like being a Yankees fan and running your mouth at Fenway, you just don't do it.  Use common sense. 
    Ha, well that's a bit of a different argument.  Sure, punch away and then go to jail for assault.  
    My bad for not being more clear. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,769
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    Anyways, the whole premise that Muslims were celebrating in New Jersey after the towers fell is complete bullshit.

    Interesting conversation but started on a lie. As has been already stated, it's been investigated at length and debunked many times. 

    https://www.snopes.com/news/2015/11/22/donald-trump-cheering-911/
    It definitely isn’t bull shit as proven by the two articles I posted. 
    It doesn't matter if it happened or not.  People are allowed to be aholes in this country.  They are allowed to be scumbags.  They are allowed to celebrate our enemies, which Jane Fonda did during Vietnam as an easy example.  But that doesn't give anyone the right to beat the shit out of Jane Fonda or string her up. 
    this is what people are missing. whether it happened or not does not matter. 
    Just look at some of the comments in here. If you were a Muslim and people were hanging this lie on you it sure as hell would matter.
    sure, in that context, yes, I would agree with that. 
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    People excusing even the thought of Americans celebrating the 9/11 attacks?

    I'm all for freedom of speech, but c'mon folks? That wasn't a rally of fucking Illinois Nazi's, that was a disastrous terrorist attack. 
    It's easy to be for freedom of speech when it isn't objectionable.  The test of the amendment is when we find the speech reprehensible.  
    If you’re an American celebrating the tower attacks on the day they occurred... then from my way of thinking... you’re an enemy of the people and should be treated as such.

    Enemy of the people...that seems to be a common excuse for relaxing the first amendment.
    I have no problem with that in this instance.  You celebrate while in view of the towers, yeah your ass should be thrown in jail or get a severe beating.  In my mind those actions speak volumes, you are supporting the enemies of the United States.  
    You're advocating lawlessness and vigilante justice.  We used to have quite a bit of that in the South only 50 years ago.  
    I'm ok with it in this instance.  The 1950's, no way Jose.  
    Dude.. you're a history teacher aren't you?  Why is this okay, because you agree with it?  Is it okay also when a black guy rapes a white woman?  When isn't it okay?
    I teach history but like many others I am a person that was greatly effected by 9/11.  I stand by my opinion.  Sorry bud, no one should have been publicly celebrating the deaths of nearly 3,000 civilians especially while in view of the New York skyline.  
    Let's agree to disagree and move on.  
    I was as well, as I worked in NOVA at the time.  But as soon as you open the gate to allow vigilante justice, then it becomes a pogrom pretty quickly.  And don't think those don't occur.  There was a massive one in India 20 years ago where thousands of ethnic minorities were murdered because of something an individual did.  You give people a green light to exercise their prejudices without consequences.  There's no agreeing to disagree.  You either support the rule of law or you don't.  It's pretty straightforward.  
    fI the people who were celebrating the attack were beat up, then I would hope that they (the people throwing the punches) would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.  However the people celebrating definitely deserved to get a punch or five to the face.  It's like being a Yankees fan and running your mouth at Fenway, you just don't do it.  Use common sense. 
    Common sense is not using the New York Post as your source of proof. When the story has been debunked by much more reputable actual news organizations. 


  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,498
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    People excusing even the thought of Americans celebrating the 9/11 attacks?

    I'm all for freedom of speech, but c'mon folks? That wasn't a rally of fucking Illinois Nazi's, that was a disastrous terrorist attack. 
    It's easy to be for freedom of speech when it isn't objectionable.  The test of the amendment is when we find the speech reprehensible.  
    If you’re an American celebrating the tower attacks on the day they occurred... then from my way of thinking... you’re an enemy of the people and should be treated as such.

    Enemy of the people...that seems to be a common excuse for relaxing the first amendment.
    I have no problem with that in this instance.  You celebrate while in view of the towers, yeah your ass should be thrown in jail or get a severe beating.  In my mind those actions speak volumes, you are supporting the enemies of the United States.  
    You're advocating lawlessness and vigilante justice.  We used to have quite a bit of that in the South only 50 years ago.  
    I'm ok with it in this instance.  The 1950's, no way Jose.  
    Dude.. you're a history teacher aren't you?  Why is this okay, because you agree with it?  Is it okay also when a black guy rapes a white woman?  When isn't it okay?
    I teach history but like many others I am a person that was greatly effected by 9/11.  I stand by my opinion.  Sorry bud, no one should have been publicly celebrating the deaths of nearly 3,000 civilians especially while in view of the New York skyline.  
    Let's agree to disagree and move on.  
    I was as well, as I worked in NOVA at the time.  But as soon as you open the gate to allow vigilante justice, then it becomes a pogrom pretty quickly.  And don't think those don't occur.  There was a massive one in India 20 years ago where thousands of ethnic minorities were murdered because of something an individual did.  You give people a green light to exercise their prejudices without consequences.  There's no agreeing to disagree.  You either support the rule of law or you don't.  It's pretty straightforward.  
    fI the people who were celebrating the attack were beat up, then I would hope that they (the people throwing the punches) would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.  However the people celebrating definitely deserved to get a punch or five to the face.  It's like being a Yankees fan and running your mouth at Fenway, you just don't do it.  Use common sense. 
    Not even remotely a good example nor comparison.  You should be able to go to a sporting event and root for whoever the fuck you want without the fear of some mouthbreathing fan of the other team giving you a "punch or five to the face."  That's just fucking stupid thinking. Adults should act like adults, not gladiators.  Stop with the "asking for it" mentality. When given the option, one should always choose to be the better person.
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    mcgruff10 said:
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    People excusing even the thought of Americans celebrating the 9/11 attacks?

    I'm all for freedom of speech, but c'mon folks? That wasn't a rally of fucking Illinois Nazi's, that was a disastrous terrorist attack. 
    It's easy to be for freedom of speech when it isn't objectionable.  The test of the amendment is when we find the speech reprehensible.  
    True.  But those people celebrating deserve a genuine ass whooping.  
    And somewhere in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, etc. is a grieving widow whose family was killed in a drone strike who feels the same way and thus the cycle continues. It's the pathetic human need for vengeance.
    If you don’t fly airplanes into buildings then none of that happens. Imagine what would happen to people If they celebrated a drone strike in Syria or Afghanistan?  
    They would get an ass whuppin?
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    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    People excusing even the thought of Americans celebrating the 9/11 attacks?

    I'm all for freedom of speech, but c'mon folks? That wasn't a rally of fucking Illinois Nazi's, that was a disastrous terrorist attack. 
    It's easy to be for freedom of speech when it isn't objectionable.  The test of the amendment is when we find the speech reprehensible.  
    If you’re an American celebrating the tower attacks on the day they occurred... then from my way of thinking... you’re an enemy of the people and should be treated as such.
    So thought police?
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