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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,655
    Team Trump Treason pressures the US ambassador to the UK to lobby them to move the British Open to Turnberry in Scotland. Who owns Turnberry? You’ve got it. Drain the swamp? Sure, suckers.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,314
    What a guy ha wishes a child trafficker sincere good wishes and could barely get a sincere condolence wish for an icon of Human Rights activist! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,125
    What a guy ha wishes a child trafficker sincere good wishes and could barely get a sincere condolence wish for an icon of Human Rights activist! 
    Like many have said, the guy is a effing moron. 

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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,314
    g under p said:
    What a guy ha wishes a child trafficker sincere good wishes and could barely get a sincere condolence wish for an icon of Human Rights activist! 
    Like many have said, the guy is a effing moron. 

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    The filth and garbage this administration is associated with is just about insurmountable! 
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    DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,412
    The right can cannibalize itself any time now. Don’t think I’ve ever seen a collective so absolutely lacking in self awareness. 
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,986
    What a guy ha wishes a child trafficker sincere good wishes and could barely get a sincere condolence wish for an icon of Human Rights activist! 
    That was a signal....she has dirt on him.  Problem for tRump is that she won't be convicted in time for him to pardon her unless he wins in November.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,655
    What a guy ha wishes a child trafficker sincere good wishes and could barely get a sincere condolence wish for an icon of Human Rights activist! 
    That was a signal....she has dirt on him.  Problem for tRump is that she won't be convicted in time for him to pardon her unless he wins in November.
    Unfortunately, her trial is scheduled to start in January 2021 but I believe Team trump Treason could pardon her pre-trial as she's been charged. We'll never hear her story or have her name names. She'll either be pardoned, cop a plea to keep her mouth shut or mysteriously pass away, maybe of covid.
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,829
    What a guy ha wishes a child trafficker sincere good wishes and could barely get a sincere condolence wish for an icon of Human Rights activist! 
    That was a signal....she has dirt on him.  Problem for tRump is that she won't be convicted in time for him to pardon her unless he wins in November.
    Unfortunately, her trial is scheduled to start in January 2021 but I believe Team trump Treason could pardon her pre-trial as she's been charged. We'll never hear her story or have her name names. She'll either be pardoned, cop a plea to keep her mouth shut or mysteriously pass away, maybe of covid.
    A typo?  I'd have thought you have a "Team Trump Treason" key on a custom-made keyboard.

    A few years ago, I'd have thought a pre-emptive pardoning of a child-sex trafficer would be a consideration; I mean, surely his party and even his supporters would blast him for that?  Now?  Forget it.  If she's got anything on him, he may as well do it.  It won't move the needle a bit.

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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,881
    Pardons require an admission of guilt.

    its why stone was adamant asbout commutation.......

    she makes that admission she is fucked in civil court. likely is anyway.....
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,678
    What a guy ha wishes a child trafficker sincere good wishes and could barely get a sincere condolence wish for an icon of Human Rights activist! 
    That was a signal....she has dirt on him.  Problem for tRump is that she won't be convicted in time for him to pardon her unless he wins in November.
    Unfortunately, her trial is scheduled to start in January 2021 but I believe Team trump Treason could pardon her pre-trial as she's been charged. We'll never hear her story or have her name names. She'll either be pardoned, cop a plea to keep her mouth shut or mysteriously pass away, maybe of covid.
    Is she only charged federally?
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,986
    What a guy ha wishes a child trafficker sincere good wishes and could barely get a sincere condolence wish for an icon of Human Rights activist! 
    That was a signal....she has dirt on him.  Problem for tRump is that she won't be convicted in time for him to pardon her unless he wins in November.
    Unfortunately, her trial is scheduled to start in January 2021 but I believe Team trump Treason could pardon her pre-trial as she's been charged. We'll never hear her story or have her name names. She'll either be pardoned, cop a plea to keep her mouth shut or mysteriously pass away, maybe of covid.
    How could he pardon her for something she hasn't been convicted of?  I don't think that's possible.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,881
    What a guy ha wishes a child trafficker sincere good wishes and could barely get a sincere condolence wish for an icon of Human Rights activist! 
    That was a signal....she has dirt on him.  Problem for tRump is that she won't be convicted in time for him to pardon her unless he wins in November.
    Unfortunately, her trial is scheduled to start in January 2021 but I believe Team trump Treason could pardon her pre-trial as she's been charged. We'll never hear her story or have her name names. She'll either be pardoned, cop a plea to keep her mouth shut or mysteriously pass away, maybe of covid.
    How could he pardon her for something she hasn't been convicted of?  I don't think that's possible.
    nixon was....
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,655
    edited July 2020
    mickeyrat said:
    What a guy ha wishes a child trafficker sincere good wishes and could barely get a sincere condolence wish for an icon of Human Rights activist! 
    That was a signal....she has dirt on him.  Problem for tRump is that she won't be convicted in time for him to pardon her unless he wins in November.
    Unfortunately, her trial is scheduled to start in January 2021 but I believe Team trump Treason could pardon her pre-trial as she's been charged. We'll never hear her story or have her name names. She'll either be pardoned, cop a plea to keep her mouth shut or mysteriously pass away, maybe of covid.
    How could he pardon her for something she hasn't been convicted of?  I don't think that's possible.
    nixon was....
    As were players in Iran-Contra and/or Iraq or Enron or something during Reagan, Bush and Bush Administrations. Difficult to keep up with all the repub malfeasance. I vaguely remember a scandal and the issue of presidential pardons was raised and the issue prior to being tried and convicted came up and legal experts opined that the presidential pardon was sweeping in its authority. But then again, I might need a cognitive test. Elephant! No, giraffe! No, snake! No, it’s a rhino. No, an emu! No, a cat!.....

    And CYA Barr could just drop the charges.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,986
    mickeyrat said:
    What a guy ha wishes a child trafficker sincere good wishes and could barely get a sincere condolence wish for an icon of Human Rights activist! 
    That was a signal....she has dirt on him.  Problem for tRump is that she won't be convicted in time for him to pardon her unless he wins in November.
    Unfortunately, her trial is scheduled to start in January 2021 but I believe Team trump Treason could pardon her pre-trial as she's been charged. We'll never hear her story or have her name names. She'll either be pardoned, cop a plea to keep her mouth shut or mysteriously pass away, maybe of covid.
    How could he pardon her for something she hasn't been convicted of?  I don't think that's possible.
    nixon was....
    But he was convicted by the Senate....right?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,655
    mickeyrat said:
    What a guy ha wishes a child trafficker sincere good wishes and could barely get a sincere condolence wish for an icon of Human Rights activist! 
    That was a signal....she has dirt on him.  Problem for tRump is that she won't be convicted in time for him to pardon her unless he wins in November.
    Unfortunately, her trial is scheduled to start in January 2021 but I believe Team trump Treason could pardon her pre-trial as she's been charged. We'll never hear her story or have her name names. She'll either be pardoned, cop a plea to keep her mouth shut or mysteriously pass away, maybe of covid.
    How could he pardon her for something she hasn't been convicted of?  I don't think that's possible.
    nixon was....
    But he was convicted by the Senate....right?
    No, he resigned prior to being impeached by the house after three articles were passed because he resigned, knowing the house would vote to impeach and the senate would have convicted.

    Regarding pardons:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_pardons_in_the_United_States
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,655
    mickeyrat said:
    Pardons require an admission of guilt.

    its why stone was adamant asbout commutation.......

    she makes that admission she is fucked in civil court. likely is anyway.....
    Admission of guilt versus the next 10-30 years in prison? Civil suit? She goes off to a country with no extradition treaty and puts all her assets in someone else’s name. Or she pleads to lesser charges and gets pardoned. She’s not going to prison and she’s not naming names. Way too many big fish. And I’d bet she’s got an insurance policy of names and evidence in a lawyers office somewhere as well.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,655
    Kat said:
    Maybe when a Proud Boy or Buggaloo throws a Molotov cocktail from the rear of the crowd to provoke a response? I can see it happening. Oh, how far we've come in three and a half years.
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    edited July 2020
    Kat said:
    Funny that people claim they are not anarchists when they literally have the anarchy symbol on their banners...
    I do not support the federal officers going out patrolling the streets of Portland, but I do support them guarding the actual federal buildings with whatever force is needed to do so.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,315
    PJPOWER said:
    Kat said:
    Funny that people claim they are not anarchists when they literally have the anarchy symbol on their banners...
    I do not support the federal officers going out patrolling the streets of Portland, but I do support them guarding the actual federal buildings with whatever force is needed to do so.
    ....even if the governor did not request their assistance? Doesn't that go against everything conservatives once stood for regarding states rights?
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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,817
    PJPOWER said:
    Kat said:
    Funny that people claim they are not anarchists when they literally have the anarchy symbol on their banners...
    I do not support the federal officers going out patrolling the streets of Portland, but I do support them guarding the actual federal buildings with whatever force is needed to do so.
    Is there no middle? No common sense? The leaders in Seattle and Portland do absolutely nothing. The federal officers do way too much. I don’t get it honestly. 
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
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    PJPOWER said:
    Kat said:
    Funny that people claim they are not anarchists when they literally have the anarchy symbol on their banners...
    I do not support the federal officers going out patrolling the streets of Portland, but I do support them guarding the actual federal buildings with whatever force is needed to do so.
    ....even if the governor did not request their assistance? Doesn't that go against everything conservatives once stood for regarding states rights?
    Yes to Federal property, not state property 
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    nicknyr15 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Kat said:
    Funny that people claim they are not anarchists when they literally have the anarchy symbol on their banners...
    I do not support the federal officers going out patrolling the streets of Portland, but I do support them guarding the actual federal buildings with whatever force is needed to do so.
    Is there no middle? No common sense? The leaders in Seattle and Portland do absolutely nothing. The federal officers do way too much. I don’t get it honestly. 
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    DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,412
    Only force necessary is to arrest and the charge then offenders. 
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    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Kat said:
    Funny that people claim they are not anarchists when they literally have the anarchy symbol on their banners...
    I do not support the federal officers going out patrolling the streets of Portland, but I do support them guarding the actual federal buildings with whatever force is needed to do so.
    ....even if the governor did not request their assistance? Doesn't that go against everything conservatives once stood for regarding states rights?
    Yes to Federal property, not state property 
    I find it odd that someone like you would be all for this, especially when these feds are in unmarked cars, have no identification on their clothes, are not reading people their rights and are not telling them where they're being taken.

    Rioting and defacing public property is abhorrent behavior but it's a local state and city issue. The federal government has no business being there unless the governor requested their help, which he did not. In fact he is pleading with them to leave. If Obama did this, I believe you would be up in arms. 

    And from what I've read, the situation was dying down BEFORE they arrived. This nothing more than a political stunt. Can't hype up caravans this year since nobody wants to come here anymore. So boom--here is magical new red meat for people who would've voted for him anyway. 


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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,655
    DewieCox said:
    Only force necessary is to arrest and the charge then offenders. 
    Like the Bundys?
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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    DewieCox said:
    Only force necessary is to arrest and the charge then offenders. 
    Exactly. The protester across the street who was shot in the head with a rubber bullet didn't need to be shot in the head and severely injured. The peaceful US Navy veteran who was simply trying to talk to them didn't deserve to be beaten with clubs and pepper sprayed, and have his hand broken. Those goosesteppers were marching in formation down the street 2 blocks away from any federal facility. They were not just there to protect federal assets. They were there to agitate. And it worked. Everything escalated once they showed up.
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    Someone suggested this morning to imagine it was the other party acting in a certain way to really help one's thinking about it. So...if President Obama had done any of this, it would be ok? Not ok? Constitutional? Not Constitutional?  Try that exercise and see what you think.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,655
    PJPOWER said:
    Kat said:
    Funny that people claim they are not anarchists when they literally have the anarchy symbol on their banners...
    I do not support the federal officers going out patrolling the streets of Portland, but I do support them guarding the actual federal buildings with whatever force is needed to do so.
    Funny that people who claim not to be racist or a white nationalist speak approvingly of them, hire them to work in their Administration and enact policies that further their cause. But let’s be concerned with an anarchy symbol or BLM being painted on the street.
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Kat said:
    Funny that people claim they are not anarchists when they literally have the anarchy symbol on their banners...
    I do not support the federal officers going out patrolling the streets of Portland, but I do support them guarding the actual federal buildings with whatever force is needed to do so.
    ....even if the governor did not request their assistance? Doesn't that go against everything conservatives once stood for regarding states rights?
    Yes to Federal property, not state property 
    I find it odd that someone like you would be all for this, especially when these feds are in unmarked cars, have no identification on their clothes, are not reading people their rights and are not telling them where they're being taken.

    Rioting and defacing public property is abhorrent behavior but it's a local state and city issue. The federal government has no business being there unless the governor requested their help, which he did not. In fact he is pleading with them to leave. If Obama did this, I believe you would be up in arms. 

    And from what I've read, the situation was dying down BEFORE they arrived. This nothing more than a political stunt. Can't hype up caravans this year since nobody wants to come here anymore. So boom--here is magical new red meat for people who would've voted for him anyway. 


    I have mentioned that I am against them using unmarked cars, etc.  I am only supporting them guarding the Federal buildings.  Again, ONLY the Federal property!
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