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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,822
    edited May 2020
    This is an interesting one. They're censoring him...to a degree. But leaving the tweet up. I wonder if they're leaving it up in a "Oh no, we're scared of his executive order" sort of way, or if they're leaving it up in a "look at this asshole glorifying violence" sort of way. You have to click on the violation notice to actually see the tweet. 


    the latter. jack dorsey knows full well he has nothing to fear from the disaster in chief. legal experts are saying his EO is largely toothless. people crying free speech on a private company's platform are fucking idiots. 

    reminds me of people who got warnings here crying free speech. morons, the whole lot of em!

    edit to add: and i'm not one to be shocked by anything this fucktard says. but imagine a president saying "...the shooting starts". he is essentially threatening to murder his own citizens. 

    i fucking hate this saying, but i'm going to use it anyway....."let that sink in". 
    It's funny because it goes against a main belief of conservatives/republicans, which is, "What's mine is mine. I own it, and the government can't mess with it." Isn't that why the GOP opposed the civil rights act? Goldwater argued that if a person owns a business, they should be able to serve and not serve whoever they want. Under that premise, shouldn't Dorsey and Zuckerberg be entitled to do whatever they want with their platforms, that they provide for FREE? 

    A friend of mine and I were arguing about this the other day. He alleges that those platforms censor conservatives and prop up liberal narratives, which they do, to a degree, and he further claims that they're a monopoly. But I told him, hey, sorry that it's always liberals that come up with these great technological advances. If a conservative invented twitter, it'd be the same thing but it would be the left that was censored. So either use Twitter and stop crying about it, or start your own social media site. 
    It seems ironic until you realize that their main belief is holding power and all the stuff they talk about is expendable once they have it.  They care about the debt/deficit only when there's a Democratic president.  They don't want government officials sticking their nose in private business until their guy tells the NFL ow to handle the anthem. And they sure as hell don't want government stifling free speech, except that Trump alludes to it all the time and they celebrate.  Second Term prediction: Trump starts talking about shutting down CNN and his supporters are all in.

    Also, the problem with your friend's take is that one of the two biggest platforms, Facebook, is totally on Team Trump because money.
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,725
    OnWis97 said:
    This is an interesting one. They're censoring him...to a degree. But leaving the tweet up. I wonder if they're leaving it up in a "Oh no, we're scared of his executive order" sort of way, or if they're leaving it up in a "look at this asshole glorifying violence" sort of way. You have to click on the violation notice to actually see the tweet. 


    the latter. jack dorsey knows full well he has nothing to fear from the disaster in chief. legal experts are saying his EO is largely toothless. people crying free speech on a private company's platform are fucking idiots. 

    reminds me of people who got warnings here crying free speech. morons, the whole lot of em!

    edit to add: and i'm not one to be shocked by anything this fucktard says. but imagine a president saying "...the shooting starts". he is essentially threatening to murder his own citizens. 

    i fucking hate this saying, but i'm going to use it anyway....."let that sink in". 
    It's funny because it goes against a main belief of conservatives/republicans, which is, "What's mine is mine. I own it, and the government can't mess with it." Isn't that why the GOP opposed the civil rights act? Goldwater argued that if a person owns a business, they should be able to serve and not serve whoever they want. Under that premise, shouldn't Dorsey and Zuckerberg be entitled to do whatever they want with their platforms, that they provide for FREE? 

    A friend of mine and I were arguing about this the other day. He alleges that those platforms censor conservatives and prop up liberal narratives, which they do, to a degree, and he further claims that they're a monopoly. But I told him, hey, sorry that it's always liberals that come up with these great technological advances. If a conservative invented twitter, it'd be the same thing but it would be the left that was censored. So either use Twitter and stop crying about it, or start your own social media site. 
    It seems ironic until you realize that their main belief is holding power and all the stuff they talk about is expendable once they have it.  They care about the debt/deficit only when there's a Democratic president.  They don't want government officials sticking their nose in private business until their guy tells the NFL ow to handle the anthem. And they sure as hell don't want government stifling free speech, except that Trump alludes to it all the time and they celebrate.  Second Term prediction: Trump starts talking about shutting down CNN and his supporters are all in.

    Also, the problem with your friend's take is that one of the two biggest platforms, Facebook, is totally on Team Trump because money.
    In fairness to my friend, he was just talking about Twitter. I just threw Zuckerberg in the first paragraph after reading some of the comments on Fox News' YouTube interview with him. They think he (and people like him) are the one leading us into an Orwellian hellhole...instead of Trump who actually is (or maybe already HAS).
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    how can it even be claimed that they have a monopoly when it's a free service? and how is two companies a monopoly? do trump supporters not understand what the prefix "mono" means? LOL
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    republicans are for free speech until it's a liberal being silenced
    republicans are pro life until it's a POC person being killed
    republicans are for autonomy from government until they want something shut down

    don't be like republicans. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,725
    how can it even be claimed that they have a monopoly when it's a free service? and how is two companies a monopoly? do trump supporters not understand what the prefix "mono" means? LOL
    Throw YouTube (google) in there too, so it's three companies. I know...I said the same thing. "Monopoly" is factually wrong, but what they're trying to say (I guess) is that left-leaning people run all those companies so (again, I guess) the left has a "monopoly" on social media. I don't know.
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,725
    edited May 2020
    OF COURSE it was a George Wallace quote...



    KInda like when he quote Bane during his inauguration. 

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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    how can it even be claimed that they have a monopoly when it's a free service? and how is two companies a monopoly? do trump supporters not understand what the prefix "mono" means? LOL
    Throw YouTube (google) in there too, so it's three companies. I know...I said the same thing. "Monopoly" is factually wrong, but what they're trying to say (I guess) is that left-leaning people run all those companies so (again, I guess) the left has a "monopoly" on social media. I don't know.
    So, as you suggested, all they have to do is start their own social media platform. he's obviously going directly after twitter without saying so. he recently proclaimed he's number 1 on facebook, so if that's true (it's not, but facts are beside the point to these idiots), how can he claim he and his supporters are being silenced while also claiming to be #1?

    if there was a left-leaning version of alex jones, i'm sure they'd be eventually banned from youtube too. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,621
    how can it even be claimed that they have a monopoly when it's a free service? and how is two companies a monopoly? do trump supporters not understand what the prefix "mono" means? LOL
    Throw YouTube (google) in there too, so it's three companies. I know...I said the same thing. "Monopoly" is factually wrong, but what they're trying to say (I guess) is that left-leaning people run all those companies so (again, I guess) the left has a "monopoly" on social media. I don't know.
    Left leaning people run all the companies these days,  except oil and gas,  and construction.

    Im overstating of course,  but social liberalism is embedded in corporate culture. 
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    he's kind of a fascist dictator yo
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    darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 5,742
    edited May 2020
    Can we just do it now?!?! Please. 
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,528
    I am nervous.  The republicans don’t care what he says but what he does.  They like the bills he has passed and positions he takes and don’t care about his stupid comments.

    Friends and family tell me that he says stupid stuff but they can’t vote democratic because they don’t like their positions.  I tell them that they are lied to and that the leaders have no intention of making abortion illegal or balancing the budget so stop holding the rest of America hostage by voting for these idiots.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,230
    I am nervous.  The republicans don’t care what he says but what he does.  They like the bills he has passed and positions he takes and don’t care about his stupid comments.

    Friends and family tell me that he says stupid stuff but they can’t vote democratic because they don’t like their positions.  I tell them that they are lied to and that the leaders have no intention of making abortion illegal or balancing the budget so stop holding the rest of America hostage by voting for these idiots.
    They're spending like drunken sailors and abandoning their conservative roots. All of these pro Trump republicans aren't even real republicans anymore. They're fucking hypocrites.

    Remain calm, though. Biden remains in better shape than any other challenger to an incumbent ever, I believe. 

    There's still a fire in the engine room.....
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    pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,191
    so Biden's point about if you vote for Trump you aren't black is kind of spot on
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,575
    From the White House email blast (please, be best):

    Dear 1600 Daily subscribers,
     
    We are forwarding you this email that the White House just received from Twitter. It’s so absurd, we just had to share it with you.
     
    This morning, the White House Twitter account reposted text from a tweet sent by President Trump. A short time later, Twitter censored the tweet, claiming it violated Twitter Rules about “glorifying violence.”
     
    That is completely false. As the President just explained again, his tweet was CONDEMING violence and pledging federal support to keep Minnesotans safe.
     
    The email we just received, presumably sent by a different team within Twitter, admits that the very tweet they are censoring does not violate any Twitter Rules. 
     
    Yet the tweet is still censored.
     
    Twitter’s own staff just made this much clear: Twitter is a publisher with an editorial viewpoint, NOT a platform.
     
    See the email below for yourself: 


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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    From the White House email blast (please, be best):

    Dear 1600 Daily subscribers,
     
    We are forwarding you this email that the White House just received from Twitter. It’s so absurd, we just had to share it with you.
     
    This morning, the White House Twitter account reposted text from a tweet sent by President Trump. A short time later, Twitter censored the tweet, claiming it violated Twitter Rules about “glorifying violence.”
     
    That is completely false. As the President just explained again, his tweet was CONDEMING violence and pledging federal support to keep Minnesotans safe.
     
    The email we just received, presumably sent by a different team within Twitter, admits that the very tweet they are censoring does not violate any Twitter Rules. 
     
    Yet the tweet is still censored.
     
    Twitter’s own staff just made this much clear: Twitter is a publisher with an editorial viewpoint, NOT a platform.
     
    See the email below for yourself: 


    That is completely false. As the President just explained again, his tweet was CONDEMING violence and pledging federal support to keep Minnesotans safe.   

    To the WH (probably KAC or Hope Hicks/IVANKA),

    that's some Spicer worthy DOUBLETHINK, and if you're going to use big words like CONDEMNING, use fucking spell check, stupid. 
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    I cant wait until this idiot has been dispatched.  Jesus.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,575
    ikiT said:
    From the White House email blast (please, be best):

    Dear 1600 Daily subscribers,
     
    We are forwarding you this email that the White House just received from Twitter. It’s so absurd, we just had to share it with you.
     
    This morning, the White House Twitter account reposted text from a tweet sent by President Trump. A short time later, Twitter censored the tweet, claiming it violated Twitter Rules about “glorifying violence.”
     
    That is completely false. As the President just explained again, his tweet was CONDEMING violence and pledging federal support to keep Minnesotans safe.
     
    The email we just received, presumably sent by a different team within Twitter, admits that the very tweet they are censoring does not violate any Twitter Rules. 
     
    Yet the tweet is still censored.
     
    Twitter’s own staff just made this much clear: Twitter is a publisher with an editorial viewpoint, NOT a platform.
     
    See the email below for yourself: 


    That is completely false. As the President just explained again, his tweet was CONDEMING violence and pledging federal support to keep Minnesotans safe.   

    To the WH (probably KAC or Hope Hicks/IVANKA),

    that's some Spicer worthy DOUBLETHINK, and if you're going to use big words like CONDEMNING, use fucking spell check, stupid. 
    Right? Is it too much to expect that any and all White House communications would have all the words spelled correctly? Never mind making logical sense, just get the words spelled correctly. Give us that at least.
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,537
    ikiT said:
    he's kind of a fascist dictator yo
    Now imagine his supporters/voters 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,621
    pjhawks said:
    so Biden's point about if you vote for Trump you aren't black is kind of spot on
    Pretty much
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,575
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,575
    ANTIFA has taken over the nation! Hide! Run! Suspend elections! ANTIFA is bigger, more powerful and subtle than you ever knew!

    Better come to Jesus. Amen.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Surround the People’s House.
    totally normal

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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,616
    It is so sad ...you would think Fat Orange Guy would be happy for the diversion of someone else he doesn't care about dying....and that people would not blame him for.  Nope.  Instead he doubles down on stoking the fires and comes out with lots of hateful tweets to make him look even worse 

    He only knows one tactic....
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007

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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    resign already
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,281
    Yes Resign is trending but we know he won’t but still good to see the wave of non supporters really building up..
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