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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,686
    my2hands said:
    Why do we, or anyone else, give two shits what Ann Coulter has to say?
    Most of us don't as a matter of fact most of wish she would dissapear and not heard from again , but those in his base will follow her lead into chaos ...
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  • cincybearcat
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    PJ_Soul said:
    I don't understand why anyone would call Pelosi an idiot though, even if they hate her for whatever reason. What has she ever done to warrant that label? We all know Trump does things every damn day to show the world that he is indeed a complete idiot. But I can't think of anything Pelosi has done like that. Can you please give examples of what you think is idiotic behaviour coming from Pelosi? And idiotic enough to be lumped in with Trump under the same adjective?
    Ok fair enough. It was a poor term. She is not an idiot. 

    She is rated 100% or 0% by the different groups on many of the different issues. For example voting record 100% pro-union. And is for a lot of issues. So if you disagree with her on an issue, you will disagree by a lot. They ain’t no middle ground with her. But you are right, she isn’t an idiot. Just made a joke about trump/pelosi and then used an improper description of her.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    josevolution said:
    my2hands said:
    Why do we, or anyone else, give two shits what Ann Coulter has to say?
    Most of us don't as a matter of fact most of wish she would dissapear and not heard from again , but those in his base will follow her lead into chaos ...

    She just found a way to be relevant again. And Team Trump Treason's base can follow her into oblivion. Fuck them.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    Just looked at CNN front page. 

    “Trump caved”

    pelosi has trump “on his knees”

    In this particular issue and this particular president blowhard it makes sense. I just hope that we don’t have all the news outlets becoming like Fox News and saying compromise = defeat. 

    Probably reading too much into it since this was trump and his stupid stand. Probably would be very different in the future.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,704
    edited January 2019
    cincybearcat said:
    Just looked at CNN front page. 

    “Trump caved”

    pelosi has trump “on his knees”

    In this particular issue and this particular president blowhard it makes sense. I just hope that we don’t have all the news outlets becoming like Fox News and saying compromise = defeat. 

    Probably reading too much into it since this was trump and his stupid stand. Probably would be very different in the future.
    I agree that compromise shouldn't be equated with defeat.... However, I don't think what happened today was a compromise at all, and really was simply Trump bowing to the pressure that he created. He set up a completely untenable situation and finally buckled because he was finally forced to admit he couldn't maintain it. That's not compromise.
    Also, there is no way the Dems should compromise on this ridiculous wall in any case. It's an insane idea, that would ONLY serve Trump's personal political interests. That's ALL it is. I can't believe anyone actually wants Dems to bend a hair to that crap. Like someone said earlier - there is no middle ground in the wall vs no wall debate. It's not like half a wall can be built. And to trade something for the wall would be a horrid idea, since all the wall would be is a massive, uber-expensive boondoggle. There are too many real things to spend all those billions on ($5.7B would, of course, just be the beginning).
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,458
    edited January 2019
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    josevolution said:
    my2hands said:
    Why do we, or anyone else, give two shits what Ann Coulter has to say?
    Most of us don't as a matter of fact most of wish she would dissapear and not heard from again , but those in his base will follow her lead into chaos ...

    She just found a way to be relevant again. And Team Trump Treason's base can follow her into oblivion. Fuck them.
    You said it
    I thought it
    But you wrote it
    Good
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,373
    And if you haven't heard Team Trump Treason's White House press conference regarding opening up government, you need to listen to it, if you can stand his grating voice and mangled syntax. You might want to read it. "We're going to stop drugs in numbers nobody will ever believe." "I have the power of alternative options." The fucking guy is in so far over his head and yet he still has 39.2% approval. If they're not "deplorables," how should we refer to those that still support Team Trump Treason and his manufactured crisis at the border and Russian collusion?
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  • wndowpayne
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    Try to stay away from the political threads..like Religion, its just always going to strike up an argument..BUT..why not quit wasting money on Mars?? That money could build a few feet of wall..
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  • mrussel1
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    PJ_Soul said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Just looked at CNN front page. 

    “Trump caved”

    pelosi has trump “on his knees”

    In this particular issue and this particular president blowhard it makes sense. I just hope that we don’t have all the news outlets becoming like Fox News and saying compromise = defeat. 

    Probably reading too much into it since this was trump and his stupid stand. Probably would be very different in the future.
    I agree that compromise shouldn't be equated with defeat.... However, I don't think what happened today was a compromise at all, and really was simply Trump bowing to the pressure that he created. He set up a completely untenable situation and finally buckled because he was finally forced to admit he couldn't maintain it. That's not compromise.
    Also, there is no way the Dems should compromise on this ridiculous wall in any case. It's an insane idea, that would ONLY serve Trump's personal political interests. That's ALL it is. I can't believe anyone actually wants Dems to bend a hair to that crap. Like someone said earlier - there is no middle ground in the wall vs no wall debate. It's not like half a wall can be built. And to trade something for the wall would be a horrid idea, since all the wall would be is a massive, uber-expensive boondoggle. There are too many real things to spend all those billions on ($5.7B would, of course, just be the beginning).
    You're right,  it's not a compromise because Trump got nothing.  However,  I would be in favor of this limited 5 billion for permanent DACA.  That would give some closure to those young people to begin their life and prevent Republicans from holding them hostage again. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,130
    pjhawks said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Pelosi is a great politician but I despise her because of her stance on the 2nd Amendment.  
    You complain that the two sides can't compromise and then say you despise someone who you disagree with on one policy issue.
    That would be correct.  
    you must hate Ed too and most of us here then.
    None of you work in Congress and make laws. I could care less about Ed s politics. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    wndowpayne said:
    Try to stay away from the political threads..like Religion, its just always going to strike up an argument..BUT..why not quit wasting money on Mars?? That money could build a few feet of wall..

    Because we're going to need to live there soon. Sooner than expected.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,704
    edited January 2019
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    wndowpayne said:
    Try to stay away from the political threads..like Religion, its just always going to strike up an argument..BUT..why not quit wasting money on Mars?? That money could build a few feet of wall..

    Because we're going to need to live there soon. Sooner than expected.
    Yeah, space exploration and all the scientific breakthroughs that come from it are definitely important and should not ever be cut. It's not a waste of money at all. What's wasteful is how much is spent on the US military. It's insane. That Space Force is a stupid waste as well. Cut that, not the worthwhile and forward-looking space exploration that NASA does.
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  • wndowpayne
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    wndowpayne said:
    Try to stay away from the political threads..like Religion, its just always going to strike up an argument..BUT..why not quit wasting money on Mars?? That money could build a few feet of wall..

    Because we're going to need to live there soon. Sooner than expected.
       I'm thinking Canada..not Mars.. ;)=)


     I'm not saying to shut down NASA btw..
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  • wndowpayne
    wndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    edited January 2019
    Unless, of course, Canada builds a wall
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  • josevolution
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    cincybearcat said:
    Just looked at CNN front page. 

    “Trump caved”

    pelosi has trump “on his knees”

    In this particular issue and this particular president blowhard it makes sense. I just hope that we don’t have all the news outlets becoming like Fox News and saying compromise = defeat. 

    Probably reading too much into it since this was trump and his stupid stand. Probably would be very different in the future.
    He should of taken the bargain three weeks ago that was in place he would of averted the shutdown and could of then had some negotiating power instead he actually caved into Coulter & Limbaugh and comes out looking like the idiot he is ! 
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  • drakeheuer14
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    Build a wall around mars. It will be about just as useful. Living on mars, lol. Building walls, lol. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,704
    I think people will indeed truly be living on Mars in colonies in about 200 years or so, and I'm glad they are laying the foundations now. It's gotta start somewhere, and the sooner the better, because in 200 years it probably won't be an option, but a necessity.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    PJ_Soul said:
    I think people will indeed truly be living on Mars in colonies in about 200 years or so, and I'm glad they are laying the foundations now. It's gotta start somewhere, and the sooner the better, because in 200 years it probably won't be an option, but a necessity.

    Team Trump Treason asked the administrator of NASA when he expected a manned mission to mars and he replied with 2050. Team Trump Treason then asked if he could do it before the end of his term. Clueless.
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  • mrussel1
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    josevolution said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Just looked at CNN front page. 

    “Trump caved”

    pelosi has trump “on his knees”

    In this particular issue and this particular president blowhard it makes sense. I just hope that we don’t have all the news outlets becoming like Fox News and saying compromise = defeat. 

    Probably reading too much into it since this was trump and his stupid stand. Probably would be very different in the future.
    He should of taken the bargain three weeks ago that was in place he would of averted the shutdown and could of then had some negotiating power instead he actually caved into Coulter & Limbaugh and comes out looking like the idiot he is ! 
    He literally got ZERO for the 35 days.  His only accomplishment was alienating the few reasonable people left that may support him, and dividing his base.  What a political genius.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mrussel1 said:
    josevolution said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Just looked at CNN front page. 

    “Trump caved”

    pelosi has trump “on his knees”

    In this particular issue and this particular president blowhard it makes sense. I just hope that we don’t have all the news outlets becoming like Fox News and saying compromise = defeat. 

    Probably reading too much into it since this was trump and his stupid stand. Probably would be very different in the future.
    He should of taken the bargain three weeks ago that was in place he would of averted the shutdown and could of then had some negotiating power instead he actually caved into Coulter & Limbaugh and comes out looking like the idiot he is ! 
    He literally got ZERO for the 35 days.  His only accomplishment was alienating the few reasonable people left that may support him, and dividing his base.  What a political genius.

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