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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,947
    PJ_Soul said:
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    Tiki said:
    He doesn't stop and won't stop because everyone around him are coddled and enablers.
    Plus, as I have said previously,  he is a spoiled, immature, and narcissistic child who just doesn't get it.
    Which says even more about his supporters.
    He 100% gets it. That is why he's doing it.
    I go back and forth on this. I don't know if he 100% gets it. I think it's possible he sees it as his only line of defence against the truth; trash the press. I don't think it's some mass conspiracy to control the media. the constitution simply won't allow that to happen. 
    Once the populace doesn't trust the news media at all, the constitution will become MUCH more flexible. That's the idea. I think Trump, under advisement, knows exactly what he's doing. That is why he is basically hammering everyone over the head with the CONSTANT #fakenews thing, day in and day out. If he weren't so unbelievably persistent and consistent with that particular message, and if Steve Bannon wasn't around, I'd probably agree with you. But given how deliberately consistent he is with that message in particular, and the way he uses the term and works it in no matter the situation suggests that it is part of an intentional long-term plan. I think dismissing it as something else is dangerous in and of itself. I know it's fucking hard to believe, because it's just so fucking nuts in this day and age, and we would all like to think that people know better. But all signs tell us that it's true anyway. And the message is quickly becoming ubiquitous, which means that soon enough the message will sink into the American subconscious. I think that is the plan. They've already managed to very effectively redefine the term "fake news" in the public consciousness, so their plans is already working. But FWIW, I don't think they intend a takeover of the current news media. They intend to make them ineffective, while making fake news more effective. Also, Trump needn't make a state-run media outlet official and have any pesky constitutional laws get in the way. All he needs to do is have it in his back pocket, like he already has with Breitbart and some other fringe outlets.
    problem is, he's not consistent. if any news agency reports anything positive about him or his government or his family, all of a sudden they are no longer fake news. I don't really believe many of supporters believe any of this fake news BS. Some of them do, for sure, but they probably already didn't watch any of the networks that he calls that. They were all Fox Newsers already. So he's preaching to the choir. I don't think he's effectively flipping anyone. 

    I don't think Trump is honestly a dummy, but I don't think he's presidential caliber intelligent either. I think he's so focused on his own image, that he can't help himself but shout from the rooftops about anyone that people perceive to be better than him, or someone who has wronged him in some way. He knows America, by and large, misses Obama, that's why he's going after him and his reputation. And it will work with his base, but I don't think it will work with his detractors or the moderates. 
    I actually consider your example one of consistency. He is warming people up to just believe the good coverage and not believe the bad coverage. I also think that MANY of his supporters believe the fake news thing at face value. But those who don't are still being brainwashed by it on some level. It's a psychological tactic that I think is very obviously being utilized and is working already in some ways. And I don't think whether or not they ever consumed this news is relevant, and the intention really isn't flipping people either. What I'm saying is that they are employing Orwellian tactics, which isn't about flipping people in the way you mean. What they are doing is much less "surface" than that, and much more sinister. Logically convincing moderates or opponents is the LAST thing on their minds.
    And BTW, I think Trump is fucking idiot and not intelligent at all. There is no way he'd figure this out for himself. He's got the exact kind of help he needs here. I actually can hardly believe he managed to gather up the crazy little gang that he did.
    I suppose, I just think it's less likely to work if you are trying to convince people to only believe the good things. many people are that stupid (or just indifferent), but I have faith that most aren't. 

    you have to remember that sure, many of his supporters will believe this BS, but the total of his base is, what, 17% of the voting public? that ain't much. 
    I just don't think that the decisions you're talking about are as conscious or deliberate as that. Eroding the public trust in the news media is not really about his base or even gaining actual support. Anyway, the tactic is working like a hot damn. It is already clear that he has managed to erode public trust in the news media, and not just among his supporters. It is working on those who don't support him too, just not in such a direct way. Again, it's a psychological game. People being stupid or indifferent really isn't all that necessary for it to work. Most Germans in the 1930s weren't stupid or indifferent either, and yet..............
    "working like a hot damn". how are you measuring this erosion of public trust in the media?
    Well plenty of plain old observation over time, but there are also gallup poles and shit that show us this.
    directly attributed to Trump, or just in general? with the proliferation of social media and the like, people have been becoming more and more distrustful of the establishment long before trump came into the picture. But I'd be interested to see if it can actually be measured that Trump is the main cause. 
    It's definitely increased a lot since Trump, yes, according to polls it's very much gotten worse since then, and I think we all know that to be true through our own observations and experience. I mean, do you remember "fake news" being a thing before him? No. It wasn't a thing until he made it a thing. I mean, it existed, I don't mean that... you know what I mean, lol.
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    BS44325 said:
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    PJ_Soul said:
    my2hands said:
    No tapes...

    Just another Trump lie

    How is it a lie?  Not once did President Trump say this was true.
    He said he might have Comey tapes. That was a lie. He knew perfectly well that he didn't have any when he said that. The man is a fucking moron. He thinks it is appropriate to "bluff" the American public. I suspect he does it just for shits and giggles.


    Shits and giggles or attempting to intimidate Comey? The latter is probably something Mueller is looking into.


    The president is so stupid.

    Maybe. His "tapes" comment triggered Comey admitting that he did in fact tell Trump on three separate occasions that he was not under investigation. Trump had been trying to get that fact into the public for months but nobody believed. People claimed that was a lie and the memo showed it to be true. It also unveiled Comey himself to be both a leaker and a liar. The problem with the "tapes" tweet though is that it lead to the appointment of the special prosecutor. If the special prosecutor comes up with nothing though then the "tapes" tweet might turnout to be a brilliant move. Electorally it has already been demonstrated that the "tapes" tweet or special prosecutor is having zero impact on the GOP to win elections. To many of you label things you don't understand "stupid". This is not for you. Never was for you.
    Comey admitting that he told tRump that he wasn't under investigation is irrelevant to everyone except tRump.  

    It was a fact that up until Comey was fired there was no investigation of tRump.  So what?
    Ha. It was pretty damn relevant. Amazing how the goal posts have moved. Now you agree there was no investigation of Trump previously but seem to think there is one now?
    Comey said, in the same testimony you are taking as gospel now, that Trump was now under investigation for obstructing justice. He's a liar, except when he says the things you want to believe? Is that it?
    The fact that anyone would think the Comey testimony was good for Trump is beyond me. It was a disaster. If he had just left the investigation alone in the first place, none of this would be happening.


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  • erocshiftyerocshifty Posts: 1,170
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    my2hands said:
    No tapes...

    Just another Trump lie

    How is it a lie?  Not once did President Trump say this was true.
    He said he might have Comey tapes. That was a lie. He knew perfectly well that he didn't have any when he said that. The man is a fucking moron. He thinks it is appropriate to "bluff" the American public. I suspect he does it just for shits and giggles.


    Shits and giggles or attempting to intimidate Comey? The latter is probably something Mueller is looking into.


    The president is so stupid.

    Maybe. His "tapes" comment triggered Comey admitting that he did in fact tell Trump on three separate occasions that he was not under investigation. Trump had been trying to get that fact into the public for months but nobody believed. People claimed that was a lie and the memo showed it to be true. It also unveiled Comey himself to be both a leaker and a liar. The problem with the "tapes" tweet though is that it lead to the appointment of the special prosecutor. If the special prosecutor comes up with nothing though then the "tapes" tweet might turnout to be a brilliant move. Electorally it has already been demonstrated that the "tapes" tweet or special prosecutor is having zero impact on the GOP to win elections. To many of you label things you don't understand "stupid". This is not for you. Never was for you.
    Comey admitting that he told tRump that he wasn't under investigation is irrelevant to everyone except tRump.  

    It was a fact that up until Comey was fired there was no investigation of tRump.  So what?
    Ha. It was pretty damn relevant. Amazing how the goal posts have moved. Now you agree there was no investigation of Trump previously but seem to think there is one now?
    Comey said, in the same testimony you are taking as gospel now, that Trump was now under investigation for obstructing justice. He's a liar, except when he says the things you want to believe? Is that it?
    The fact that anyone would think the Comey testimony was good for Trump is beyond me. It was a disaster. If he had just left the investigation alone in the first place, none of this would be happening.


    That's the thing. It seems like Trump thinks that America is just another business that he's acquired and can fire whomever he wants if they question him. Embarrassing.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,990
    Anyone else see the similarities between Trump, his lawyer and the Russian oligarchs? What are they all doing? 

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  • President Trumps latest tweet after the truth of his previous one depicting real fake news.  Here it is.....

    With ZERO Democrats to help, and a failed, expensive and dangerous ObamaCare as the Dems legacy, the Republican Senators are working hard!  I just finished a great meeting with the Republican Senators concerning HealthCare. They really want to get it right, unlike OCare!


  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,893
    My god, what a dumpster fire. I thought he was a master negotiator? Haha
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,893
    LITERALLY fake news. What an irrational, immature, insecure idiot:


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  • How's that wall coming along, by the way? #winningyet? #tiredofwinningyet

    Trump said last week his wall would pay for itself if it were made of solar panels.

    “This way, Mexico will have to pay much less money," Trump said during a rally in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. “A solar wall. It makes sense. Let's see. We are working it out. Solar wall panels."

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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    President Trumps latest tweet after the truth of his previous one depicting real fake news.  


    Haha.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,990
    dignin said:
    President Trumps latest tweet after the truth of his previous one depicting real fake news.  


    Haha.
    I thought it was fake real news?
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    dignin said:
    President Trumps latest tweet after the truth of his previous one depicting real fake news.  


    Haha.
    I thought it was fake real news?
    Maybe, I just can't get it all straight anymore. I'm not good at 4 year old talk, like Trump and his supporters.
  • dignin said:
    dignin said:
    President Trumps latest tweet after the truth of his previous one depicting real fake news.  


    Haha.
    I thought it was fake real news?
    Maybe, I just can't get it all straight anymore. I'm not good at 4 year old talk, like Trump and his supporters.

    What is funny is this Trevor Noah commercial that has been on for a few weeks.  This is funny, for once.
    https://twitter.com/thedailyshow/status/835519744946012160?lang=en

  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    LITERALLY fake news. What an irrational, immature, insecure idiot:



  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    my2hands said:
    No tapes...

    Just another Trump lie

    How is it a lie?  Not once did President Trump say this was true.
    He said he might have Comey tapes. That was a lie. He knew perfectly well that he didn't have any when he said that. The man is a fucking moron. He thinks it is appropriate to "bluff" the American public. I suspect he does it just for shits and giggles.


    Shits and giggles or attempting to intimidate Comey? The latter is probably something Mueller is looking into.


    The president is so stupid.

    Maybe. His "tapes" comment triggered Comey admitting that he did in fact tell Trump on three separate occasions that he was not under investigation. Trump had been trying to get that fact into the public for months but nobody believed. People claimed that was a lie and the memo showed it to be true. It also unveiled Comey himself to be both a leaker and a liar. The problem with the "tapes" tweet though is that it lead to the appointment of the special prosecutor. If the special prosecutor comes up with nothing though then the "tapes" tweet might turnout to be a brilliant move. Electorally it has already been demonstrated that the "tapes" tweet or special prosecutor is having zero impact on the GOP to win elections. To many of you label things you don't understand "stupid". This is not for you. Never was for you.
    Comey admitting that he told tRump that he wasn't under investigation is irrelevant to everyone except tRump.  

    It was a fact that up until Comey was fired there was no investigation of tRump.  So what?
    Ha. It was pretty damn relevant. Amazing how the goal posts have moved. Now you agree there was no investigation of Trump previously but seem to think there is one now?
    Comey said, in the same testimony you are taking as gospel now, that Trump was now under investigation for obstructing justice. He's a liar, except when he says the things you want to believe? Is that it?
    The fact that anyone would think the Comey testimony was good for Trump is beyond me. It was a disaster. If he had just left the investigation alone in the first place, none of this would be happening.


    No. Comey did not say that. 
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    edited June 2017
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    my2hands said:
    No tapes...

    Just another Trump lie

    How is it a lie?  Not once did President Trump say this was true.
    He said he might have Comey tapes. That was a lie. He knew perfectly well that he didn't have any when he said that. The man is a fucking moron. He thinks it is appropriate to "bluff" the American public. I suspect he does it just for shits and giggles.


    Shits and giggles or attempting to intimidate Comey? The latter is probably something Mueller is looking into.


    The president is so stupid.

    Maybe. His "tapes" comment triggered Comey admitting that he did in fact tell Trump on three separate occasions that he was not under investigation. Trump had been trying to get that fact into the public for months but nobody believed. People claimed that was a lie and the memo showed it to be true. It also unveiled Comey himself to be both a leaker and a liar. The problem with the "tapes" tweet though is that it lead to the appointment of the special prosecutor. If the special prosecutor comes up with nothing though then the "tapes" tweet might turnout to be a brilliant move. Electorally it has already been demonstrated that the "tapes" tweet or special prosecutor is having zero impact on the GOP to win elections. To many of you label things you don't understand "stupid". This is not for you. Never was for you.
    Comey admitting that he told tRump that he wasn't under investigation is irrelevant to everyone except tRump.  

    It was a fact that up until Comey was fired there was no investigation of tRump.  So what?
    Ha. It was pretty damn relevant. Amazing how the goal posts have moved. Now you agree there was no investigation of Trump previously but seem to think there is one now?
    Comey said, in the same testimony you are taking as gospel now, that Trump was now under investigation for obstructing justice. He's a liar, except when he says the things you want to believe? Is that it?
    The fact that anyone would think the Comey testimony was good for Trump is beyond me. It was a disaster. If he had just left the investigation alone in the first place, none of this would be happening.


    That's the thing. It seems like Trump thinks that America is just another business that he's acquired and can fire whomever he wants if they question him. Embarrassing.
    He legally can fire whomever he wants. He can fire Mueller if he wants.

  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    my2hands said:
    No tapes...

    Just another Trump lie

    How is it a lie?  Not once did President Trump say this was true.
    He said he might have Comey tapes. That was a lie. He knew perfectly well that he didn't have any when he said that. The man is a fucking moron. He thinks it is appropriate to "bluff" the American public. I suspect he does it just for shits and giggles.


    Shits and giggles or attempting to intimidate Comey? The latter is probably something Mueller is looking into.


    The president is so stupid.

    Maybe. His "tapes" comment triggered Comey admitting that he did in fact tell Trump on three separate occasions that he was not under investigation. Trump had been trying to get that fact into the public for months but nobody believed. People claimed that was a lie and the memo showed it to be true. It also unveiled Comey himself to be both a leaker and a liar. The problem with the "tapes" tweet though is that it lead to the appointment of the special prosecutor. If the special prosecutor comes up with nothing though then the "tapes" tweet might turnout to be a brilliant move. Electorally it has already been demonstrated that the "tapes" tweet or special prosecutor is having zero impact on the GOP to win elections. To many of you label things you don't understand "stupid". This is not for you. Never was for you.
    Comey admitting that he told tRump that he wasn't under investigation is irrelevant to everyone except tRump.  

    It was a fact that up until Comey was fired there was no investigation of tRump.  So what?
    Ha. It was pretty damn relevant. Amazing how the goal posts have moved. Now you agree there was no investigation of Trump previously but seem to think there is one now?
    Comey said, in the same testimony you are taking as gospel now, that Trump was now under investigation for obstructing justice. He's a liar, except when he says the things you want to believe? Is that it?
    The fact that anyone would think the Comey testimony was good for Trump is beyond me. It was a disaster. If he had just left the investigation alone in the first place, none of this would be happening.


    That's the thing. It seems like Trump thinks that America is just another business that he's acquired and can fire whomever he wants if they question him. Embarrassing.
    He legally can fire whomever he wants. He can fire Mueller if he wants.

    Can't fire me.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,990
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    my2hands said:
    No tapes...

    Just another Trump lie

    How is it a lie?  Not once did President Trump say this was true.
    He said he might have Comey tapes. That was a lie. He knew perfectly well that he didn't have any when he said that. The man is a fucking moron. He thinks it is appropriate to "bluff" the American public. I suspect he does it just for shits and giggles.


    Shits and giggles or attempting to intimidate Comey? The latter is probably something Mueller is looking into.


    The president is so stupid.

    Maybe. His "tapes" comment triggered Comey admitting that he did in fact tell Trump on three separate occasions that he was not under investigation. Trump had been trying to get that fact into the public for months but nobody believed. People claimed that was a lie and the memo showed it to be true. It also unveiled Comey himself to be both a leaker and a liar. The problem with the "tapes" tweet though is that it lead to the appointment of the special prosecutor. If the special prosecutor comes up with nothing though then the "tapes" tweet might turnout to be a brilliant move. Electorally it has already been demonstrated that the "tapes" tweet or special prosecutor is having zero impact on the GOP to win elections. To many of you label things you don't understand "stupid". This is not for you. Never was for you.
    Comey admitting that he told tRump that he wasn't under investigation is irrelevant to everyone except tRump.  

    It was a fact that up until Comey was fired there was no investigation of tRump.  So what?
    Ha. It was pretty damn relevant. Amazing how the goal posts have moved. Now you agree there was no investigation of Trump previously but seem to think there is one now?
    Comey said, in the same testimony you are taking as gospel now, that Trump was now under investigation for obstructing justice. He's a liar, except when he says the things you want to believe? Is that it?
    The fact that anyone would think the Comey testimony was good for Trump is beyond me. It was a disaster. If he had just left the investigation alone in the first place, none of this would be happening.


    That's the thing. It seems like Trump thinks that America is just another business that he's acquired and can fire whomever he wants if they question him. Embarrassing.
    He legally can fire whomever he wants. He can fire Mueller if he wants.

    What's Trump hiding? What is he afraid of? If everything is on the up and up and there's no collusion with Russia or obstruction of justice? What's he hiding? PTAPE?
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,947
    edited June 2017
    I actually enjoyed the Apprentice, and I wish he had just stuck with that... And I'm sure he wishes he had too. I would bet $1M that he regrets ever running for President, and that he considers throwing in the towel every single day (not that I think he actually will, though even that would not shock me at this point. He's really struggling).
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    PJ_Soul said:
    I actually enjoyed the Apprentice, and I wish he had just stuck with that... And I'm sure he wishes he had too. I would bet $1M that he regrets ever running for President, and that he considers throwing in the towel every single day (not that I think he actually will, though even that would not shock me at this point. He's really struggling).
    I'll donate to charity the day the towel is thrown...you name it.
    for a friend..when was Trump accused of being racist or sexist before he declared? inquiring minds wanna know.....
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    my2hands said:
    No tapes...

    Just another Trump lie

    How is it a lie?  Not once did President Trump say this was true.
    He said he might have Comey tapes. That was a lie. He knew perfectly well that he didn't have any when he said that. The man is a fucking moron. He thinks it is appropriate to "bluff" the American public. I suspect he does it just for shits and giggles.


    Shits and giggles or attempting to intimidate Comey? The latter is probably something Mueller is looking into.


    The president is so stupid.

    Maybe. His "tapes" comment triggered Comey admitting that he did in fact tell Trump on three separate occasions that he was not under investigation. Trump had been trying to get that fact into the public for months but nobody believed. People claimed that was a lie and the memo showed it to be true. It also unveiled Comey himself to be both a leaker and a liar. The problem with the "tapes" tweet though is that it lead to the appointment of the special prosecutor. If the special prosecutor comes up with nothing though then the "tapes" tweet might turnout to be a brilliant move. Electorally it has already been demonstrated that the "tapes" tweet or special prosecutor is having zero impact on the GOP to win elections. To many of you label things you don't understand "stupid". This is not for you. Never was for you.
    Comey admitting that he told tRump that he wasn't under investigation is irrelevant to everyone except tRump.  

    It was a fact that up until Comey was fired there was no investigation of tRump.  So what?
    Ha. It was pretty damn relevant. Amazing how the goal posts have moved. Now you agree there was no investigation of Trump previously but seem to think there is one now?
    Comey said, in the same testimony you are taking as gospel now, that Trump was now under investigation for obstructing justice. He's a liar, except when he says the things you want to believe? Is that it?
    The fact that anyone would think the Comey testimony was good for Trump is beyond me. It was a disaster. If he had just left the investigation alone in the first place, none of this would be happening.


    That's the thing. It seems like Trump thinks that America is just another business that he's acquired and can fire whomever he wants if they question him. Embarrassing.
    He legally can fire whomever he wants. He can fire Mueller if he wants.

    What's Trump hiding? What is he afraid of? If everything is on the up and up and there's no collusion with Russia or obstruction of justice? What's he hiding? PTAPE?
    There is no evidence he is hiding anything. Currently it is members of his transition team who are being blocked from testifying while the investigation now turns toward Fusion GPS and the sourcing of the Dossier. Add to that an investigation of Loretta Lynch, an investigation of Assistant FBI Director McCabe, an investigation of Jane Sanders, and it seems to me that Trump is free and clear. The tide has turned. The swap is beginning to drain.

    https://www.google.ca/amp/www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/06/loretta-lynch-clinton-email-investigation/amp

    https://www.google.ca/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4637666/amp/Dirty-dossier-firm-refusing-cooperate-Congress.html

    http://circa.com/politics/accountability/fbi-chief-mccabe-key-figure-in-russia-probe-under-investigation-for-possible-hatch-act-v

    http://circa.com/politics/accountability/did-the-fbi-retaliate-against-michael-flynn-by-launching-russia-probe

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/22/bernie-sanders-jane-sanders-lawyer-bank-fraud-investigation-burlington-college-215297
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    PJ_Soul said:
    I actually enjoyed the Apprentice, and I wish he had just stuck with that... And I'm sure he wishes he had too. I would bet $1M that he regrets ever running for President, and that he considers throwing in the towel every single day (not that I think he actually will, though even that would not shock me at this point. He's really struggling).
    Yeah. Sure looks like he is struggling. Winning elections. Supreme court victories. Passing legislation. Economy looking good. If this is struggling then I hate to see what it looks like when he finally settles into the job.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,947
    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:
    I actually enjoyed the Apprentice, and I wish he had just stuck with that... And I'm sure he wishes he had too. I would bet $1M that he regrets ever running for President, and that he considers throwing in the towel every single day (not that I think he actually will, though even that would not shock me at this point. He's really struggling).
    Yeah. Sure looks like he is struggling. Winning elections. Supreme court victories. Passing legislation. Economy looking good. If this is struggling then I hate to see what it looks like when he finally settles into the job.
    Well, hahahahahahahaha!
    But besides that, I meant personally. Psychologically.


    Oh hey, the latest is that he hangs fake TIME covers about himself at his clubs! Fake news indeed. :lol:




    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:
    I actually enjoyed the Apprentice, and I wish he had just stuck with that... And I'm sure he wishes he had too. I would bet $1M that he regrets ever running for President, and that he considers throwing in the towel every single day (not that I think he actually will, though even that would not shock me at this point. He's really struggling).
    Yeah. Sure looks like he is struggling. Winning elections. Supreme court victories. Passing legislation. Economy looking good. If this is struggling then I hate to see what it looks like when he finally settles into the job.
    You're crediting him with the economy?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:
    I actually enjoyed the Apprentice, and I wish he had just stuck with that... And I'm sure he wishes he had too. I would bet $1M that he regrets ever running for President, and that he considers throwing in the towel every single day (not that I think he actually will, though even that would not shock me at this point. He's really struggling).
    Yeah. Sure looks like he is struggling. Winning elections. Supreme court victories. Passing legislation. Economy looking good. If this is struggling then I hate to see what it looks like when he finally settles into the job.
    You're crediting him with the economy?

    JC29856 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I actually enjoyed the Apprentice, and I wish he had just stuck with that... And I'm sure he wishes he had too. I would bet $1M that he regrets ever running for President, and that he considers throwing in the towel every single day (not that I think he actually will, though even that would not shock me at this point. He's really struggling).
    I'll donate to charity the day the towel is thrown...you name it.
    for a friend..when was Trump accused of being racist or sexist before he declared? inquiring minds wanna know.....
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,893
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    my2hands said:
    No tapes...

    Just another Trump lie

    How is it a lie?  Not once did President Trump say this was true.
    He said he might have Comey tapes. That was a lie. He knew perfectly well that he didn't have any when he said that. The man is a fucking moron. He thinks it is appropriate to "bluff" the American public. I suspect he does it just for shits and giggles.


    Shits and giggles or attempting to intimidate Comey? The latter is probably something Mueller is looking into.


    The president is so stupid.

    Maybe. His "tapes" comment triggered Comey admitting that he did in fact tell Trump on three separate occasions that he was not under investigation. Trump had been trying to get that fact into the public for months but nobody believed. People claimed that was a lie and the memo showed it to be true. It also unveiled Comey himself to be both a leaker and a liar. The problem with the "tapes" tweet though is that it lead to the appointment of the special prosecutor. If the special prosecutor comes up with nothing though then the "tapes" tweet might turnout to be a brilliant move. Electorally it has already been demonstrated that the "tapes" tweet or special prosecutor is having zero impact on the GOP to win elections. To many of you label things you don't understand "stupid". This is not for you. Never was for you.
    Comey admitting that he told tRump that he wasn't under investigation is irrelevant to everyone except tRump.  

    It was a fact that up until Comey was fired there was no investigation of tRump.  So what?
    Ha. It was pretty damn relevant. Amazing how the goal posts have moved. Now you agree there was no investigation of Trump previously but seem to think there is one now?
    Comey said, in the same testimony you are taking as gospel now, that Trump was now under investigation for obstructing justice. He's a liar, except when he says the things you want to believe? Is that it?
    The fact that anyone would think the Comey testimony was good for Trump is beyond me. It was a disaster. If he had just left the investigation alone in the first place, none of this would be happening.


    That's the thing. It seems like Trump thinks that America is just another business that he's acquired and can fire whomever he wants if they question him. Embarrassing.
    He legally can fire whomever he wants. He can fire Mueller if he wants.

    What's Trump hiding? What is he afraid of? If everything is on the up and up and there's no collusion with Russia or obstruction of justice? What's he hiding? PTAPE?
    There is no evidence he is hiding anything. Currently it is members of his transition team who are being blocked from testifying while the investigation now turns toward Fusion GPS and the sourcing of the Dossier. Add to that an investigation of Loretta Lynch, an investigation of Assistant FBI Director McCabe, an investigation of Jane Sanders, and it seems to me that Trump is free and clear. The tide has turned. The swap is beginning to drain.

    https://www.google.ca/amp/www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/06/loretta-lynch-clinton-email-investigation/amp

    https://www.google.ca/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4637666/amp/Dirty-dossier-firm-refusing-cooperate-Congress.html

    http://circa.com/politics/accountability/fbi-chief-mccabe-key-figure-in-russia-probe-under-investigation-for-possible-hatch-act-v

    http://circa.com/politics/accountability/did-the-fbi-retaliate-against-michael-flynn-by-launching-russia-probe

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/22/bernie-sanders-jane-sanders-lawyer-bank-fraud-investigation-burlington-college-215297
    .....no
    www.myspace.com
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:
    I actually enjoyed the Apprentice, and I wish he had just stuck with that... And I'm sure he wishes he had too. I would bet $1M that he regrets ever running for President, and that he considers throwing in the towel every single day (not that I think he actually will, though even that would not shock me at this point. He's really struggling).
    Yeah. Sure looks like he is struggling. Winning elections. Supreme court victories. Passing legislation. Economy looking good. If this is struggling then I hate to see what it looks like when he finally settles into the job.
    You're crediting him with the economy?
    Not yet but on that point he definitely ain't struggling.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    my2hands said:
    No tapes...

    Just another Trump lie

    How is it a lie?  Not once did President Trump say this was true.
    He said he might have Comey tapes. That was a lie. He knew perfectly well that he didn't have any when he said that. The man is a fucking moron. He thinks it is appropriate to "bluff" the American public. I suspect he does it just for shits and giggles.


    Shits and giggles or attempting to intimidate Comey? The latter is probably something Mueller is looking into.


    The president is so stupid.

    Maybe. His "tapes" comment triggered Comey admitting that he did in fact tell Trump on three separate occasions that he was not under investigation. Trump had been trying to get that fact into the public for months but nobody believed. People claimed that was a lie and the memo showed it to be true. It also unveiled Comey himself to be both a leaker and a liar. The problem with the "tapes" tweet though is that it lead to the appointment of the special prosecutor. If the special prosecutor comes up with nothing though then the "tapes" tweet might turnout to be a brilliant move. Electorally it has already been demonstrated that the "tapes" tweet or special prosecutor is having zero impact on the GOP to win elections. To many of you label things you don't understand "stupid". This is not for you. Never was for you.
    Comey admitting that he told tRump that he wasn't under investigation is irrelevant to everyone except tRump.  

    It was a fact that up until Comey was fired there was no investigation of tRump.  So what?
    Ha. It was pretty damn relevant. Amazing how the goal posts have moved. Now you agree there was no investigation of Trump previously but seem to think there is one now?
    Comey said, in the same testimony you are taking as gospel now, that Trump was now under investigation for obstructing justice. He's a liar, except when he says the things you want to believe? Is that it?
    The fact that anyone would think the Comey testimony was good for Trump is beyond me. It was a disaster. If he had just left the investigation alone in the first place, none of this would be happening.


    That's the thing. It seems like Trump thinks that America is just another business that he's acquired and can fire whomever he wants if they question him. Embarrassing.
    He legally can fire whomever he wants. He can fire Mueller if he wants.

    What's Trump hiding? What is he afraid of? If everything is on the up and up and there's no collusion with Russia or obstruction of justice? What's he hiding? PTAPE?
    There is no evidence he is hiding anything. Currently it is members of his transition team who are being blocked from testifying while the investigation now turns toward Fusion GPS and the sourcing of the Dossier. Add to that an investigation of Loretta Lynch, an investigation of Assistant FBI Director McCabe, an investigation of Jane Sanders, and it seems to me that Trump is free and clear. The tide has turned. The swap is beginning to drain.

    https://www.google.ca/amp/www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/06/loretta-lynch-clinton-email-investigation/amp

    https://www.google.ca/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4637666/amp/Dirty-dossier-firm-refusing-cooperate-Congress.html

    http://circa.com/politics/accountability/fbi-chief-mccabe-key-figure-in-russia-probe-under-investigation-for-possible-hatch-act-v

    http://circa.com/politics/accountability/did-the-fbi-retaliate-against-michael-flynn-by-launching-russia-probe

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/22/bernie-sanders-jane-sanders-lawyer-bank-fraud-investigation-burlington-college-215297
    .....no
    Oh no? Ok. Whatever you say. CNN is pulling Russia stories and cutting reporters. Obama officials are stating that Obama choked on Russia. Podesta is being brought in for testimony on the Obama administration's response. This "investigation" is moving in all sorts of directions that weren't anticipated (by most of you) while the Trump well runs dry. Wait 'till the prosecution against the "leakers" begin...we're just getting started. Swamp will drain.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited June 2017
    JC29856 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I actually enjoyed the Apprentice, and I wish he had just stuck with that... And I'm sure he wishes he had too. I would bet $1M that he regrets ever running for President, and that he considers throwing in the towel every single day (not that I think he actually will, though even that would not shock me at this point. He's really struggling).
    I'll donate to charity the day the towel is thrown...you name it.
    for a friend..when was Trump accused of being racist or sexist before he declared? inquiring minds wanna know.....

    I will donate my bootleg that is coming from H2M to anyone on this board who is reading this.
    The only caveat is that you may have wait awhile for it to arrive.

  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    my2hands said:
    No tapes...

    Just another Trump lie

    How is it a lie?  Not once did President Trump say this was true.
    He said he might have Comey tapes. That was a lie. He knew perfectly well that he didn't have any when he said that. The man is a fucking moron. He thinks it is appropriate to "bluff" the American public. I suspect he does it just for shits and giggles.


    Shits and giggles or attempting to intimidate Comey? The latter is probably something Mueller is looking into.


    The president is so stupid.

    Maybe. His "tapes" comment triggered Comey admitting that he did in fact tell Trump on three separate occasions that he was not under investigation. Trump had been trying to get that fact into the public for months but nobody believed. People claimed that was a lie and the memo showed it to be true. It also unveiled Comey himself to be both a leaker and a liar. The problem with the "tapes" tweet though is that it lead to the appointment of the special prosecutor. If the special prosecutor comes up with nothing though then the "tapes" tweet might turnout to be a brilliant move. Electorally it has already been demonstrated that the "tapes" tweet or special prosecutor is having zero impact on the GOP to win elections. To many of you label things you don't understand "stupid". This is not for you. Never was for you.
    Comey admitting that he told tRump that he wasn't under investigation is irrelevant to everyone except tRump.  

    It was a fact that up until Comey was fired there was no investigation of tRump.  So what?
    Ha. It was pretty damn relevant. Amazing how the goal posts have moved. Now you agree there was no investigation of Trump previously but seem to think there is one now?
    Comey said, in the same testimony you are taking as gospel now, that Trump was now under investigation for obstructing justice. He's a liar, except when he says the things you want to believe? Is that it?
    The fact that anyone would think the Comey testimony was good for Trump is beyond me. It was a disaster. If he had just left the investigation alone in the first place, none of this would be happening.


    That's the thing. It seems like Trump thinks that America is just another business that he's acquired and can fire whomever he wants if they question him. Embarrassing.
    He legally can fire whomever he wants. He can fire Mueller if he wants.

    What's Trump hiding? What is he afraid of? If everything is on the up and up and there's no collusion with Russia or obstruction of justice? What's he hiding? PTAPE?
    There is no evidence he is hiding anything. Currently it is members of his transition team who are being blocked from testifying while the investigation now turns toward Fusion GPS and the sourcing of the Dossier. Add to that an investigation of Loretta Lynch, an investigation of Assistant FBI Director McCabe, an investigation of Jane Sanders, and it seems to me that Trump is free and clear. The tide has turned. The swap is beginning to drain.

    https://www.google.ca/amp/www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/06/loretta-lynch-clinton-email-investigation/amp

    https://www.google.ca/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4637666/amp/Dirty-dossier-firm-refusing-cooperate-Congress.html

    http://circa.com/politics/accountability/fbi-chief-mccabe-key-figure-in-russia-probe-under-investigation-for-possible-hatch-act-v

    http://circa.com/politics/accountability/did-the-fbi-retaliate-against-michael-flynn-by-launching-russia-probe

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/22/bernie-sanders-jane-sanders-lawyer-bank-fraud-investigation-burlington-college-215297
    .....no
    Oh no? Ok. Whatever you say. CNN is pulling Russia stories and cutting reporters. Obama officials are stating that Obama choked on Russia. Podesta is being brought in for testimony on the Obama administration's response. This "investigation" is moving in all sorts of directions that weren't anticipated (by most of you) while the Trump well runs dry. Wait 'till the prosecution against the "leakers" begin...we're just getting started. Swamp will drain.
    do you really believe that? swamp draining? really? for shizz and fizz, go read the health bill in its entirety
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,893
    ^ Maybe Trump should read it. God he's so stupid


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