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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    edited October 2019
    Advocating PROTEST against oppression is not advocating violence.  HK.
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  • so we fight incitement of violence with advocating for violence now?

    great strategy! 

    last I checked, the red hats at that rally weren't cracking any skulls or firing off any water hoses. the actions of the protesters at that rally are indefensible. 
    Who’s advocating for violence? I just stated that the deplorables wearing MAGA hats illicit certain responses from certain people and I understand that, particularly when taking the high road has gotten more of Team Trump Treason’s shit rammed down our throats. People ain’t taking it no more and Team Trump Treason and his deplorable supporters and enablers haven’t shown a willingness, never mind acceptance, of compromise or inclusion. If you don’t see it as “us” versus “them and the other,” well, that’s on you.
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    some may wild out.  3 years of nonstop nonsense will do that.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,602
    so we fight incitement of violence with advocating for violence now?

    great strategy! 

    last I checked, the red hats at that rally weren't cracking any skulls or firing off any water hoses. the actions of the protesters at that rally are indefensible. 
    Who’s advocating for violence? I just stated that the deplorables wearing MAGA hats illicit certain responses from certain people and I understand that, particularly when taking the high road has gotten more of Team Trump Treason’s shit rammed down our throats. People ain’t taking it no more and Team Trump Treason and his deplorable supporters and enablers haven’t shown a willingness, never mind acceptance, of compromise or inclusion. If you don’t see it as “us” versus “them and the other,” well, that’s on you.
    the people that you need to convince to vote for your side don't see it as "us against them".  So the left needs to decide if it feels better to break shit or win elections.  
  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    The Left.


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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    Fuck the deplorable’s fuck’em now they wanna be treated with respect lol the Baffoon himself was inciting violence since day one of his campaign! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,390

    If I didn't know better, I would think certain people are much more concerned with right wing talking points than they are with a president whose behavior is appearing more and more treasonous with every passing day.

    But hey, to each his own.

  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,814
    Notice the shit that the right can pin on the left?  The people acting foolish last night are being talked about at length here in Minneapolis...sure the people harping on it most are die-hard Trumpies.  But all sorts of people are hearing about it and you never know what causes some people to vote how they do.  

    I don't think what happened in Minneapolis is worse than Trump's nonsense.  But it also doesn't help.  It invites the reactions that it's getting. And it permeates the culture.  Will it cause even a few people to vote for Trump? Stay home? Vote 3rd?  Maybe.  Can't help; could hurt.

    And in the long run?  I hope for a better world with (ugh) civility.  Shit like this doesn't help.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,602

    If I didn't know better, I would think certain people are much more concerned with right wing talking points than they are with a president whose behavior is appearing more and more treasonous with every passing day.

    But hey, to each his own.

    It's a good thing you know better then.  But the reality is that I live in a world that is not a bubble.  I see how moderates, indys and conservatives think and take in information.  I work in financial services which is fiscally conservative by nature, but socially moderate.  I read National Review, Reason, Amcon, and others.  I care about winning elections.  If you think destroying downtown San Jose helped the cause in 16, you're wrong.  If you think destroying Minneapolis advances the cause, you're wrong.  And if you're not advancing it, your're hurting it. 

    There's a huge difference in standing up for a principle and resorting to wanton destruction.  Stand up for Kap.  Stand up to China and the NBA.  Stand up for what's right vs wrong.  But destroying property isn't right and if you think a riot is a positive thing, you've lost your damned mind. 

  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786
    ikiT said:
    U.S. Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C., blasted the hundreds of protesters outside President Trump's Minneapolis rally on Thursday night, accusing the raucous crowd of trying to intimidate everyday citizens.

    Scott said those same protesters -- who were yelling at police and Trump supporters -- were the same people telling the president to "calm down."

    "I've never seen such hypocrisy in all my life," he said, adding he had heard recently from a man who was reportedly accosted in New York for wearing a MAGA hat.

    Civilians, he said, are "consistently being intimidated" and are being asked to "cower" to what he characterized as a "new, socialist regime."

    "This approach toward anarchy continues to run amok. We cannot afford that in the greatest democracy on Earth."


    I don't buy it.  Lies, Lies, and still more lies.


    The greatest democracy on earth cannot afford one more day of a corruptAF authoritarian dictator.   #ITMFA

    This guy calls himself a politician?

    Socialism and anarchy are literally the opposite of each other.  How is the left gravitating towards both?  

    What a fucking moron.  
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    CM189191 said:
    ikiT said:
    U.S. Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C., blasted the hundreds of protesters outside President Trump's Minneapolis rally on Thursday night, accusing the raucous crowd of trying to intimidate everyday citizens.

    Scott said those same protesters -- who were yelling at police and Trump supporters -- were the same people telling the president to "calm down."

    "I've never seen such hypocrisy in all my life," he said, adding he had heard recently from a man who was reportedly accosted in New York for wearing a MAGA hat.

    Civilians, he said, are "consistently being intimidated" and are being asked to "cower" to what he characterized as a "new, socialist regime."

    "This approach toward anarchy continues to run amok. We cannot afford that in the greatest democracy on Earth."


    I don't buy it.  Lies, Lies, and still more lies.


    The greatest democracy on earth cannot afford one more day of a corruptAF authoritarian dictator.   #ITMFA

    This guy calls himself a politician?

    Socialism and anarchy are literally the opposite of each other.  How is the left gravitating towards both?  

    What a fucking moron.  
    This maybe?:

    Social anarchism is considered an umbrella term that includes—but it is not limited to—the post-capitalist economic models of anarcho-communismcollectivist anarchism and sometimes mutualism, or even non-state controlled federated guild socialist dual powerindustrial democracy and economic democracyor federated worker cooperatives in addition to workers' and consumers' councils, replacing much of the present state system yet still retaining basic rights as well as the trade unionapproach of anarcho-syndicalism, the social struggle strategies of platformism and specifism and the environmental philosophy of social ecology. The term social anarchism is often used interchangeably with libertarian socialism[9] or left-libertarianism[10] and emerged in the late 19th century as a distinction from individualist anarchism.[11]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_anarchism


  • dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    mrussel1 said:

    If I didn't know better, I would think certain people are much more concerned with right wing talking points than they are with a president whose behavior is appearing more and more treasonous with every passing day.

    But hey, to each his own.

    It's a good thing you know better then.  But the reality is that I live in a world that is not a bubble.  I see how moderates, indys and conservatives think and take in information.  I work in financial services which is fiscally conservative by nature, but socially moderate.  I read National Review, Reason, Amcon, and others.  I care about winning elections.  If you think destroying downtown San Jose helped the cause in 16, you're wrong.  If you think destroying Minneapolis advances the cause, you're wrong.  And if you're not advancing it, your're hurting it. 

    There's a huge difference in standing up for a principle and resorting to wanton destruction.  Stand up for Kap.  Stand up to China and the NBA.  Stand up for what's right vs wrong.  But destroying property isn't right and if you think a riot is a positive thing, you've lost your damned mind. 

    Destroying downtown San Jose and destroying Minneapolis?

    I'll tell you what also doesn't help win elections, hyperbolie like that.

    If a Trumper points out burning Maga hats it's pretty easy to counter with Walmart mass shootings.
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    ikiT said:
    U.S. Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C., blasted the hundreds of protesters outside President Trump's Minneapolis rally on Thursday night, accusing the raucous crowd of trying to intimidate everyday citizens.

    Scott said those same protesters -- who were yelling at police and Trump supporters -- were the same people telling the president to "calm down."

    "I've never seen such hypocrisy in all my life," he said, adding he had heard recently from a man who was reportedly accosted in New York for wearing a MAGA hat.

    Civilians, he said, are "consistently being intimidated" and are being asked to "cower" to what he characterized as a "new, socialist regime."

    "This approach toward anarchy continues to run amok. We cannot afford that in the greatest democracy on Earth."


    I don't buy it.  Lies, Lies, and still more lies.


    The greatest democracy on earth cannot afford one more day of a corruptAF authoritarian dictator.   #ITMFA

    This guy calls himself a politician?

    Socialism and anarchy are literally the opposite of each other.  How is the left gravitating towards both?  

    What a fucking moron.  
    This maybe?:

    Social anarchism is considered an umbrella term that includes—but it is not limited to—the post-capitalist economic models of anarcho-communismcollectivist anarchism and sometimes mutualism, or even non-state controlled federated guild socialist dual powerindustrial democracy and economic democracyor federated worker cooperatives in addition to workers' and consumers' councils, replacing much of the present state system yet still retaining basic rights as well as the trade unionapproach of anarcho-syndicalism, the social struggle strategies of platformism and specifism and the environmental philosophy of social ecology. The term social anarchism is often used interchangeably with libertarian socialism[9] or left-libertarianism[10] and emerged in the late 19th century as a distinction from individualist anarchism.[11]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_anarchism


    yeah...good luck getting a MAGAt to understand that

    The Senator was just throwing out red meat to the red hats
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    so we fight incitement of violence with advocating for violence now?

    great strategy! 

    last I checked, the red hats at that rally weren't cracking any skulls or firing off any water hoses. the actions of the protesters at that rally are indefensible. 
    Who’s advocating for violence? I just stated that the deplorables wearing MAGA hats illicit certain responses from certain people and I understand that, particularly when taking the high road has gotten more of Team Trump Treason’s shit rammed down our throats. People ain’t taking it no more and Team Trump Treason and his deplorable supporters and enablers haven’t shown a willingness, never mind acceptance, of compromise or inclusion. If you don’t see it as “us” versus “them and the other,” well, that’s on you.
    you are. we all read between the lines, and you think because you are on a liberal forum that it will just get a pass. you think you won't get called on it because your next line will be an accusation of me being ok with sexual assault (which you did already), or the slaughter of thousands of kurds, or the murder of a journalist, or i am a misogynist (you did that one already too) or other things that have nothing to do with the current topic.

    "what did peaceful marches get the civil right movement?". that's encouraging or, at the very least, being apologetic towards, violence. a following comment about people in maga hats "should expect a reaction", which you just doubled down on above, is much of the same. 

    just own it already. don't try to hide behind semantics and play innocent/stupid. you are ok with people stealing others' property and burning it, possibly assaulting that person in the process. come on.how often does stealing someone's hat in a group of politically charged groups not end in assault of some kind?. all because the ends justify the means to you, as you've stated ad nauseum, "both sides are not the same", insinuating that the gloves are off and because of charlotteseville anything democrats do is a-ok in your book and being nice hasn't done shit. 

    get it through your head. IT'S NOT OK JUST BECAUSE IT'S THE ADVERSARY IS TRUMP. IT NEVER WILL BE. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

    HFD




  • so we fight incitement of violence with advocating for violence now?

    great strategy! 

    last I checked, the red hats at that rally weren't cracking any skulls or firing off any water hoses. the actions of the protesters at that rally are indefensible. 
    Who’s advocating for violence? I just stated that the deplorables wearing MAGA hats illicit certain responses from certain people and I understand that, particularly when taking the high road has gotten more of Team Trump Treason’s shit rammed down our throats. People ain’t taking it no more and Team Trump Treason and his deplorable supporters and enablers haven’t shown a willingness, never mind acceptance, of compromise or inclusion. If you don’t see it as “us” versus “them and the other,” well, that’s on you.
    you are. we all read between the lines, and you think because you are on a liberal forum that it will just get a pass. you think you won't get called on it because your next line will be an accusation of me being ok with sexual assault (which you did already), or the slaughter of thousands of kurds, or the murder of a journalist, or i am a misogynist (you did that one already too) or other things that have nothing to do with the current topic.

    "what did peaceful marches get the civil right movement?". that's encouraging or, at the very least, being apologetic towards, violence. a following comment about people in maga hats "should expect a reaction", which you just doubled down on above, is much of the same. 

    just own it already. don't try to hide behind semantics and play innocent/stupid. you are ok with people stealing others' property and burning it, possibly assaulting that person in the process. come on.how often does stealing someone's hat in a group of politically charged groups not end in assault of some kind?. all because the ends justify the means to you, as you've stated ad nauseum, "both sides are not the same", insinuating that the gloves are off and because of charlotteseville anything democrats do is a-ok in your book and being nice hasn't done shit. 

    get it through your head. IT'S NOT OK JUST BECAUSE IT'S THE ADVERSARY IS TRUMP. IT NEVER WILL BE. 
    Would it be okay if it were hitler? And no I’m not advocating violence, just pointing out that sometimes violence is necessary to enact the change you want to see, particularly when given lip service and constantly told to be patient, wait your turn, and take the high road.

    You have posted some sexist views and pretty bs opinions. Don’t pretend you haven’t. Own it.

    And both sides are not the same, not by a long shot. Yea, I play innocent and stupid, sure.
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    5 court losses, a talking fired ambassador, and Rudy.

    what a day for Trumpito. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    so we fight incitement of violence with advocating for violence now?

    great strategy! 

    last I checked, the red hats at that rally weren't cracking any skulls or firing off any water hoses. the actions of the protesters at that rally are indefensible. 
    Who’s advocating for violence? I just stated that the deplorables wearing MAGA hats illicit certain responses from certain people and I understand that, particularly when taking the high road has gotten more of Team Trump Treason’s shit rammed down our throats. People ain’t taking it no more and Team Trump Treason and his deplorable supporters and enablers haven’t shown a willingness, never mind acceptance, of compromise or inclusion. If you don’t see it as “us” versus “them and the other,” well, that’s on you.
    you are. we all read between the lines, and you think because you are on a liberal forum that it will just get a pass. you think you won't get called on it because your next line will be an accusation of me being ok with sexual assault (which you did already), or the slaughter of thousands of kurds, or the murder of a journalist, or i am a misogynist (you did that one already too) or other things that have nothing to do with the current topic.

    "what did peaceful marches get the civil right movement?". that's encouraging or, at the very least, being apologetic towards, violence. a following comment about people in maga hats "should expect a reaction", which you just doubled down on above, is much of the same. 

    just own it already. don't try to hide behind semantics and play innocent/stupid. you are ok with people stealing others' property and burning it, possibly assaulting that person in the process. come on.how often does stealing someone's hat in a group of politically charged groups not end in assault of some kind?. all because the ends justify the means to you, as you've stated ad nauseum, "both sides are not the same", insinuating that the gloves are off and because of charlotteseville anything democrats do is a-ok in your book and being nice hasn't done shit. 

    get it through your head. IT'S NOT OK JUST BECAUSE IT'S THE ADVERSARY IS TRUMP. IT NEVER WILL BE. 
    Would it be okay if it were hitler? And no I’m not advocating violence, just pointing out that sometimes violence is necessary to enact the change you want to see, particularly when given lip service and constantly told to be patient, wait your turn, and take the high road.

    You have posted some sexist views and pretty bs opinions. Don’t pretend you haven’t. Own it.

    And both sides are not the same, not by a long shot. Yea, I play innocent and stupid, sure.
    never once posted anything sexist. that's absolute bullshit and you know it. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

    HFD




  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Trump IS Hitler. 
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  • so we fight incitement of violence with advocating for violence now?

    great strategy! 

    last I checked, the red hats at that rally weren't cracking any skulls or firing off any water hoses. the actions of the protesters at that rally are indefensible. 
    Who’s advocating for violence? I just stated that the deplorables wearing MAGA hats illicit certain responses from certain people and I understand that, particularly when taking the high road has gotten more of Team Trump Treason’s shit rammed down our throats. People ain’t taking it no more and Team Trump Treason and his deplorable supporters and enablers haven’t shown a willingness, never mind acceptance, of compromise or inclusion. If you don’t see it as “us” versus “them and the other,” well, that’s on you.
    you are. we all read between the lines, and you think because you are on a liberal forum that it will just get a pass. you think you won't get called on it because your next line will be an accusation of me being ok with sexual assault (which you did already), or the slaughter of thousands of kurds, or the murder of a journalist, or i am a misogynist (you did that one already too) or other things that have nothing to do with the current topic.

    "what did peaceful marches get the civil right movement?". that's encouraging or, at the very least, being apologetic towards, violence. a following comment about people in maga hats "should expect a reaction", which you just doubled down on above, is much of the same. 

    just own it already. don't try to hide behind semantics and play innocent/stupid. you are ok with people stealing others' property and burning it, possibly assaulting that person in the process. come on.how often does stealing someone's hat in a group of politically charged groups not end in assault of some kind?. all because the ends justify the means to you, as you've stated ad nauseum, "both sides are not the same", insinuating that the gloves are off and because of charlotteseville anything democrats do is a-ok in your book and being nice hasn't done shit. 

    get it through your head. IT'S NOT OK JUST BECAUSE IT'S THE ADVERSARY IS TRUMP. IT NEVER WILL BE. 
    Would it be okay if it were hitler? And no I’m not advocating violence, just pointing out that sometimes violence is necessary to enact the change you want to see, particularly when given lip service and constantly told to be patient, wait your turn, and take the high road.

    You have posted some sexist views and pretty bs opinions. Don’t pretend you haven’t. Own it.

    And both sides are not the same, not by a long shot. Yea, I play innocent and stupid, sure.
    never once posted anything sexist. that's absolute bullshit and you know it. 
    Hmmmmm, no.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
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    so we fight incitement of violence with advocating for violence now?

    great strategy! 

    last I checked, the red hats at that rally weren't cracking any skulls or firing off any water hoses. the actions of the protesters at that rally are indefensible. 
    Who’s advocating for violence? I just stated that the deplorables wearing MAGA hats illicit certain responses from certain people and I understand that, particularly when taking the high road has gotten more of Team Trump Treason’s shit rammed down our throats. People ain’t taking it no more and Team Trump Treason and his deplorable supporters and enablers haven’t shown a willingness, never mind acceptance, of compromise or inclusion. If you don’t see it as “us” versus “them and the other,” well, that’s on you.
    you are. we all read between the lines, and you think because you are on a liberal forum that it will just get a pass. you think you won't get called on it because your next line will be an accusation of me being ok with sexual assault (which you did already), or the slaughter of thousands of kurds, or the murder of a journalist, or i am a misogynist (you did that one already too) or other things that have nothing to do with the current topic.

    "what did peaceful marches get the civil right movement?". that's encouraging or, at the very least, being apologetic towards, violence. a following comment about people in maga hats "should expect a reaction", which you just doubled down on above, is much of the same. 

    just own it already. don't try to hide behind semantics and play innocent/stupid. you are ok with people stealing others' property and burning it, possibly assaulting that person in the process. come on.how often does stealing someone's hat in a group of politically charged groups not end in assault of some kind?. all because the ends justify the means to you, as you've stated ad nauseum, "both sides are not the same", insinuating that the gloves are off and because of charlotteseville anything democrats do is a-ok in your book and being nice hasn't done shit. 

    get it through your head. IT'S NOT OK JUST BECAUSE IT'S THE ADVERSARY IS TRUMP. IT NEVER WILL BE. 
    Would it be okay if it were hitler? And no I’m not advocating violence, just pointing out that sometimes violence is necessary to enact the change you want to see, particularly when given lip service and constantly told to be patient, wait your turn, and take the high road.

    You have posted some sexist views and pretty bs opinions. Don’t pretend you haven’t. Own it.

    And both sides are not the same, not by a long shot. Yea, I play innocent and stupid, sure.
    never once posted anything sexist. that's absolute bullshit and you know it. 
    Hmmmmm, no.
    yeah, i remember, i once critizied AOC and that made me sexist. i forgot, anyone with a vagina is above criticism in your book. calling me a sexist just shows how utterly clueless and blinded you are by your trump rage. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

    HFD




  • so we fight incitement of violence with advocating for violence now?

    great strategy! 

    last I checked, the red hats at that rally weren't cracking any skulls or firing off any water hoses. the actions of the protesters at that rally are indefensible. 
    Who’s advocating for violence? I just stated that the deplorables wearing MAGA hats illicit certain responses from certain people and I understand that, particularly when taking the high road has gotten more of Team Trump Treason’s shit rammed down our throats. People ain’t taking it no more and Team Trump Treason and his deplorable supporters and enablers haven’t shown a willingness, never mind acceptance, of compromise or inclusion. If you don’t see it as “us” versus “them and the other,” well, that’s on you.
    you are. we all read between the lines, and you think because you are on a liberal forum that it will just get a pass. you think you won't get called on it because your next line will be an accusation of me being ok with sexual assault (which you did already), or the slaughter of thousands of kurds, or the murder of a journalist, or i am a misogynist (you did that one already too) or other things that have nothing to do with the current topic.

    "what did peaceful marches get the civil right movement?". that's encouraging or, at the very least, being apologetic towards, violence. a following comment about people in maga hats "should expect a reaction", which you just doubled down on above, is much of the same. 

    just own it already. don't try to hide behind semantics and play innocent/stupid. you are ok with people stealing others' property and burning it, possibly assaulting that person in the process. come on.how often does stealing someone's hat in a group of politically charged groups not end in assault of some kind?. all because the ends justify the means to you, as you've stated ad nauseum, "both sides are not the same", insinuating that the gloves are off and because of charlotteseville anything democrats do is a-ok in your book and being nice hasn't done shit. 

    get it through your head. IT'S NOT OK JUST BECAUSE IT'S THE ADVERSARY IS TRUMP. IT NEVER WILL BE. 
    Would it be okay if it were hitler? And no I’m not advocating violence, just pointing out that sometimes violence is necessary to enact the change you want to see, particularly when given lip service and constantly told to be patient, wait your turn, and take the high road.

    You have posted some sexist views and pretty bs opinions. Don’t pretend you haven’t. Own it.

    And both sides are not the same, not by a long shot. Yea, I play innocent and stupid, sure.
    never once posted anything sexist. that's absolute bullshit and you know it. 
    Hmmmmm, no.
    yeah, i remember, i once critizied AOC and that made me sexist. i forgot, anyone with a vagina is above criticism in your book. calling me a sexist just shows how utterly clueless and blinded you are by your trump rage. 
    Whatever helps you sleep at night. No, Sarah hucksterbee and Kelly Ann CONway deserve tons of criticism and guess what, they have China. If I had it in me, I’d dig up your posts but one was deleted by admin and well, what’s the point? I know what I know. Have a great weekend!  :)
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,814
    ikiT said:
    Trump IS Hitler. 
    Pffft.  He wishes.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    so we fight incitement of violence with advocating for violence now?

    great strategy! 

    last I checked, the red hats at that rally weren't cracking any skulls or firing off any water hoses. the actions of the protesters at that rally are indefensible. 
    Who’s advocating for violence? I just stated that the deplorables wearing MAGA hats illicit certain responses from certain people and I understand that, particularly when taking the high road has gotten more of Team Trump Treason’s shit rammed down our throats. People ain’t taking it no more and Team Trump Treason and his deplorable supporters and enablers haven’t shown a willingness, never mind acceptance, of compromise or inclusion. If you don’t see it as “us” versus “them and the other,” well, that’s on you.
    you are. we all read between the lines, and you think because you are on a liberal forum that it will just get a pass. you think you won't get called on it because your next line will be an accusation of me being ok with sexual assault (which you did already), or the slaughter of thousands of kurds, or the murder of a journalist, or i am a misogynist (you did that one already too) or other things that have nothing to do with the current topic.

    "what did peaceful marches get the civil right movement?". that's encouraging or, at the very least, being apologetic towards, violence. a following comment about people in maga hats "should expect a reaction", which you just doubled down on above, is much of the same. 

    just own it already. don't try to hide behind semantics and play innocent/stupid. you are ok with people stealing others' property and burning it, possibly assaulting that person in the process. come on.how often does stealing someone's hat in a group of politically charged groups not end in assault of some kind?. all because the ends justify the means to you, as you've stated ad nauseum, "both sides are not the same", insinuating that the gloves are off and because of charlotteseville anything democrats do is a-ok in your book and being nice hasn't done shit. 

    get it through your head. IT'S NOT OK JUST BECAUSE IT'S THE ADVERSARY IS TRUMP. IT NEVER WILL BE. 
    Would it be okay if it were hitler? And no I’m not advocating violence, just pointing out that sometimes violence is necessary to enact the change you want to see, particularly when given lip service and constantly told to be patient, wait your turn, and take the high road.

    You have posted some sexist views and pretty bs opinions. Don’t pretend you haven’t. Own it.

    And both sides are not the same, not by a long shot. Yea, I play innocent and stupid, sure.
    never once posted anything sexist. that's absolute bullshit and you know it. 
    It’s bullshit. You are right. Attack the messenger when you don’t like the message and you know the messenger is right. 
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    Jesus Christ when did it become ok to label other poster with labels like sexist when you disagree with them? 

    If you disagree you get a label. You get the “false equivalency” junk, you get all kinds of the words of the day. 

    It’s clear some are ok with minor crimes as long as it’s their team. I get it, it’s frustrating. Id be tempted. But it’s not right. Hugh is correct and from what I’ve seen on this forums is far from a sexist. So just stop the nonsense labels.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,602
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:

    If I didn't know better, I would think certain people are much more concerned with right wing talking points than they are with a president whose behavior is appearing more and more treasonous with every passing day.

    But hey, to each his own.

    It's a good thing you know better then.  But the reality is that I live in a world that is not a bubble.  I see how moderates, indys and conservatives think and take in information.  I work in financial services which is fiscally conservative by nature, but socially moderate.  I read National Review, Reason, Amcon, and others.  I care about winning elections.  If you think destroying downtown San Jose helped the cause in 16, you're wrong.  If you think destroying Minneapolis advances the cause, you're wrong.  And if you're not advancing it, your're hurting it. 

    There's a huge difference in standing up for a principle and resorting to wanton destruction.  Stand up for Kap.  Stand up to China and the NBA.  Stand up for what's right vs wrong.  But destroying property isn't right and if you think a riot is a positive thing, you've lost your damned mind. 

    Destroying downtown San Jose and destroying Minneapolis?

    I'll tell you what also doesn't help win elections, hyperbolie like that.

    If a Trumper points out burning Maga hats it's pretty easy to counter with Walmart mass shootings.
    It's not trump pointing it out,  it's the destruction on the evening news. 
  • Jesus Christ when did it become ok to label other poster with labels like sex ist when you disagree with them? 

    If you disagree you get a label. You get the “false equivalency” junk, you get all kinds of the words of the day. 

    It’s clear some are ok with minor crimes as long as it’s their team. I get it, it’s frustrating. Id be tempted. But it’s not right. Hugh is correct and from what I’ve seen on this forums is far from a sexist. So just stop the nonsense labels.
    When is it okay to label posters as advocating for violence when the person who posted did nothing of the sort and then accuse them of hiding behind something. Yea it’s fucking old when certain posters complain about the same shit they themselves do and whine about it. There’s a difference between disagreeing and coming across as sexist. That’s lost on some however.

    Shall I repost all the “labels” I’ve been labeled? 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    ikiT said:
    5 court losses, a talking fired ambassador, and Rudy.

    what a day for Trumpito. 
    lmao plenty more of these days to come! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:

    If I didn't know better, I would think certain people are much more concerned with right wing talking points than they are with a president whose behavior is appearing more and more treasonous with every passing day.

    But hey, to each his own.

    It's a good thing you know better then.  But the reality is that I live in a world that is not a bubble.  I see how moderates, indys and conservatives think and take in information.  I work in financial services which is fiscally conservative by nature, but socially moderate.  I read National Review, Reason, Amcon, and others.  I care about winning elections.  If you think destroying downtown San Jose helped the cause in 16, you're wrong.  If you think destroying Minneapolis advances the cause, you're wrong.  And if you're not advancing it, your're hurting it. 

    There's a huge difference in standing up for a principle and resorting to wanton destruction.  Stand up for Kap.  Stand up to China and the NBA.  Stand up for what's right vs wrong.  But destroying property isn't right and if you think a riot is a positive thing, you've lost your damned mind. 

    Destroying downtown San Jose and destroying Minneapolis?

    I'll tell you what also doesn't help win elections, hyperbolie like that.

    If a Trumper points out burning Maga hats it's pretty easy to counter with Walmart mass shootings.
    It's not trump pointing it out,  it's the destruction on the evening news. 
    I'm sure FOX has wall to wall coverage.

    FOX gonna be FOX. Especially now that Shep is gone.
  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,517
    Finally, people are sick of Trump shitting on the Nation.
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