No, I am saying the opposite. There is some legitimacy to the claim that this is a routine diplomatic conversation. The State Department has been working with/on Ukrainian government corruption for some time, Biden was a part of that, obviously. The quid pro quo is not nearly as clear and provable as those of us who think (know for a fact, really) that he is a shady scumbag would like to imagine it is. Having the State Department participate is a much more official and legitimate aspect than what he should be hammered on: his use of his personal lawyer and his clear grudge against his previous election opponent, which subtracts legitimacy of his preoccupation with his current election opponent.
Ah, okay, I had it the first time.... Yeah, I can't agree for the reason I already mentioned. I think the evidence shows that the State Department was part of a cover up.
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No, I am saying the opposite. There is some legitimacy to the claim that this is a routine diplomatic conversation. The State Department has been working with/on Ukrainian government corruption for some time, Biden was a part of that, obviously. The quid pro quo is not nearly as clear and provable as those of us who think (know for a fact, really) that he is a shady scumbag would like to imagine it is. Having the State Department participate is a much more official and legitimate aspect than what he should be hammered on: his use of his personal lawyer and his clear grudge against his previous election opponent, which subtracts legitimacy of his preoccupation with his current election opponent.
Ah, okay, I had it the first time.... Yeah, I can't agree for the reason I already mentioned. I think the evidence shows that the State Department was part of a cover up.
I agree that it was shady in spirit and intent and they covered it up for that reason, but I hate to admit that those actions are technically within their purview and that makes the impeachment case slippery. That's why I find Giuliani's unofficial involvement to be a much more important aspect.
No, I am saying the opposite. There is some legitimacy to the claim that this is a routine diplomatic conversation. The State Department has been working with/on Ukrainian government corruption for some time, Biden was a part of that, obviously. The quid pro quo is not nearly as clear and provable as those of us who think (know for a fact, really) that he is a shady scumbag would like to imagine it is. Having the State Department participate is a much more official and legitimate aspect than what he should be hammered on: his use of his personal lawyer and his clear grudge against his previous election opponent, which subtracts legitimacy of his preoccupation with his current election opponent.
Ah, okay, I had it the first time.... Yeah, I can't agree for the reason I already mentioned. I think the evidence shows that the State Department was part of a cover up.
I agree that it was shady in spirit and intent and they covered it up for that reason, but I hate to admit that those actions are technically within their purview and that makes the impeachment case slippery. That's why I find Giuliani's unofficial involvement to be a much more important aspect.
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No, I am saying the opposite. There is some legitimacy to the claim that this is a routine diplomatic conversation. The State Department has been working with/on Ukrainian government corruption for some time, Biden was a part of that, obviously. The quid pro quo is not nearly as clear and provable as those of us who think (know for a fact, really) that he is a shady scumbag would like to imagine it is. Having the State Department participate is a much more official and legitimate aspect than what he should be hammered on: his use of his personal lawyer and his clear grudge against his previous election opponent, which subtracts legitimacy of his preoccupation with his current election opponent.
Ah, okay, I had it the first time.... Yeah, I can't agree for the reason I already mentioned. I think the evidence shows that the State Department was part of a cover up.
I agree that it was shady in spirit and intent and they covered it up for that reason, but I hate to admit that those actions are technically within their purview and that makes the impeachment case slippery. That's why I find Giuliani's unofficial involvement to be a much more important aspect.
the lead up to the call is of greater import imo.
I agree that the context is everything, on its own, this call amounts to little. That's the only reason they released the memo, they figured they could weather the rest.
I'm leaning toward the belief that every conversation he's had with a foreign leader involves him asking for political assistance. He just wouldn't be able to help himself.
Totally normal.
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A gauge of U.S. manufacturing showed the lowest reading in more than 10 years in September as exports dived amid the escalated trade war.
The U.S. manufacturing Purchasing Managers’ Index from the Institute for Supply Management came in at 47.8% in September, the lowest since June 2009, marking the second consecutive month of contraction. Any figure below 50% signals a contraction.
The new export orders index was only 41%, the lowest level since March 2009, down from the August reading of 43.3%, ISM data showed.
“We have now tariffed our way into a manufacturing recession in the U.S. and globally,” said Peter Boockvar, chief investment officer at Bleakley Advisory Group.
The ISM employment gauge for the sector showed the lowest reading since January 2016, primarily driven by a lack of demand. New orders, backlog, raw materials inventories exports and imports also contracted across the board last month, ISM data showed.
“There is no end in sight to this slowdown, the recession risk is real,” Torsten Slok, chief economist at Deutsche Bank said in a note on Tuesday following the report.
A gauge of U.S. manufacturing showed the lowest reading in more than 10 years in September as exports dived amid the escalated trade war.
The U.S. manufacturing Purchasing Managers’ Index from the Institute for Supply Management came in at 47.8% in September, the lowest since June 2009, marking the second consecutive month of contraction. Any figure below 50% signals a contraction.
The new export orders index was only 41%, the lowest level since March 2009, down from the August reading of 43.3%, ISM data showed.
“We have now tariffed our way into a manufacturing recession in the U.S. and globally,” said Peter Boockvar, chief investment officer at Bleakley Advisory Group.
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That's why I find Giuliani's unofficial involvement to be a much more important aspect.
https://twitter.com/arlenparsa/status/1178771483688079365?s=21
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Sad.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/attorney-general-barr-personally-asked-foreign-officials-to-aid-inquiry-into-cia-fbi-activities-in-2016/2019/09/30/d50cd5c4-e3a5-11e9-b403-f738899982d2_story.html
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-pressed-australian-leader-to-help-barr-investigate-mueller-inquirys-origins/ar-AAI4KVh
Totally normal.
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Our PM is a buffoon too.
Come along now Mini Me...
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A gauge of U.S. manufacturing showed the lowest reading in more than 10 years in September as exports dived amid the escalated trade war.
The U.S. manufacturing Purchasing Managers’ Index from the Institute for Supply Management came in at 47.8% in September, the lowest since June 2009, marking the second consecutive month of contraction. Any figure below 50% signals a contraction.
The new export orders index was only 41%, the lowest level since March 2009, down from the August reading of 43.3%, ISM data showed.
“We have now tariffed our way into a manufacturing recession in the U.S. and globally,” said Peter Boockvar, chief investment officer at Bleakley Advisory Group.
The ISM employment gauge for the sector showed the lowest reading since January 2016, primarily driven by a lack of demand. New orders, backlog, raw materials inventories exports and imports also contracted across the board last month, ISM data showed.
“There is no end in sight to this slowdown, the recession risk is real,” Torsten Slok, chief economist at Deutsche Bank said in a note on Tuesday following the report.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/01/us-manufacturing-economy-contracts-to-worst-level-in-a-decade.html
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I work for a steel manufacturer, employing union workers making American steel, and 2019 has been the slowest year since I started here in 2012.
Booming economy my ass.
Cry.
It's exactly the same except for ALL the actual WINNING and PREPARATION and HARD WORK that went into it.
You're not funny. At all. Leave Tommy out of it.
Carry on.
I disagree, I think all the crying is hilarious, I've grown to love it.
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