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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,822
    ikiT said:
    "I didn't say that. They (the audience) did" is such a cop-out when he's the puppet-master of everyone in the audience. 
    "I only basked in it." 
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,933
    edited July 2019
    Why doesn't his supporters think he is a pussy for not standing up for them and the fight for the white race?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,248
    ikiT said:
    "I didn't say that. They (the audience) did" is such a cop-out when he's the puppet-master of everyone in the audience. 
    Looking forward to his couple of supporters come on here and defend it...
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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,378
    ikiT said:
    "I didn't say that. They (the audience) did" is such a cop-out when he's the puppet-master of everyone in the audience. 
    Looking forward to his couple of supporters come on here and defend it...
    You know they will. 
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,725
    edited July 2019
    ikiT said:
    "I didn't say that. They (the audience) did" is such a cop-out when he's the puppet-master of everyone in the audience. 
    Looking forward to his couple of supporters come on here and defend it...
    What I've been saying about these post-2016 election Trump rallies are they're tantamount to the Two Minutes Hate from Orwell's 1984. As a refresher for those that might not remember, or for those not familiar with the book, all the party members would be summoned to watch a propaganda video vilifying the "enemy of the state" William Goldstein. And then all the party members would spend two minutes screaming and cursing at images Goldstein. The problem though is that none of the party members are even sure that Goldstein even exists. But they're told he's evil by their leaders, so they hate him. I felt the same way about the "Lock her up" chants about Hillary after Trump was already President. While it was dumb even during the campaign, she was the direct opponent to Trump, so to chant negatively about her sorta makes sense (in Trump's world anyway). But after the election? For all intents and purposes, she doesn't even really exist anymore (like Goldstein). But Trump, like the "inner party" in 1984, needs to have the party members riled up and nothing riles them up more than supposed enemy.

    Omar is similar here. And look, I can't stand that woman. I think she's a two-faced anti-Semite who is sympathetic to terrorist groups. But that's just my opinion. And like Hillary, she's not an "enemy" of anything. And unlike Hillary, she's no threat at all to Trump's presidency. So why rile up the crowd over her? Because it's the Two Minutes Hate.....they have to hate somebody. I wonder how many people in that crowd even had an opinion of her before she was an "enemy" of Trump? Probably not many. 
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,515
    pjhawks said:
    "How dare someone call his supporters deplorables" 

    Yeah, take a wild guess.
    and she only said 50% were deplorables. she underestimated the number
    By half!
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    RYMERYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    If he was more polite,  more articulate, less disjointed, more artfully deliver his messages where would he be?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    If you need a chuckle, read all the way through and click on the last link. It helps.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/18/politics/donald-trump-north-carolina-speech/index.html
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,283
    RYME said:
    If he was more polite,  more articulate, less disjointed, more artfully deliver his messages where would he be?
    You forgot one ! If only he was human ..
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    RYMERYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    RYME said:
    If he was more polite,  more articulate, less disjointed, more artfully deliver his messages where would he be?
    You forgot one ! If only he was human ..
    If Trump was more polite, and more articulate, less abrasive, deliver messages in a more artistic way, more human... add as many adjectives as you want.
    Where would he be at this point?
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,725
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    If he was more polite,  more articulate, less disjointed, more artfully deliver his messages where would he be?
    You forgot one ! If only he was human ..
    If Trump was more polite, and more articulate, less abrasive, deliver messages in a more artistic way, more human... add as many adjectives as you want.
    Where would he be at this point?
    Maybe a commentator for WWE? Certainly not president.

    Jeez that felt insane to type but it's true. 
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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,378
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    If he was more polite,  more articulate, less disjointed, more artfully deliver his messages where would he be?
    You forgot one ! If only he was human ..
    If Trump was more polite, and more articulate, less abrasive, deliver messages in a more artistic way, more human... add as many adjectives as you want.
    Where would he be at this point?
    Can’t really comment on that because he won’t change.
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    RYMERYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    If he was more polite,  more articulate, less disjointed, more artfully deliver his messages where would he be?
    You forgot one ! If only he was human ..
    If Trump was more polite, and more articulate, less abrasive, deliver messages in a more artistic way, more human... add as many adjectives as you want.
    Where would he be at this point?
    Maybe a commentator for WWE? Certainly not president.

    Jeez that felt insane to type but it's true. 
    You nailed it.  He would be starring in another lame-ass reality show or something. Certainly not president.  
    He would be in the same boat as
    George HW Bush, Bob Dole, John McCain, & Mitt Romney.  
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,725
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    If he was more polite,  more articulate, less disjointed, more artfully deliver his messages where would he be?
    You forgot one ! If only he was human ..
    If Trump was more polite, and more articulate, less abrasive, deliver messages in a more artistic way, more human... add as many adjectives as you want.
    Where would he be at this point?
    Maybe a commentator for WWE? Certainly not president.

    Jeez that felt insane to type but it's true. 
    You nailed it.  He would be starring in another lame-ass reality show or something. Certainly not president.  
    He would be in the same boat as
    George HW Bush, Bob Dole, John McCain, & Mitt Romney.  
    Well unfortunately for those four candidates, the "rules" of American politics applied. No rules applied to Trump in 2016. It was crazy to watch. Can you imagine if Mitt Romney wouldn't show his tax-returns? His candidacy would be over immediately. Or imagine if David Duke and the KKK endorsed Romney. When asked about the endorsement, Romney would have said "There's no place for racism in America. I completely disavow that endorsement." But ya know what? I bet Romney would say to a staff member behind closed doors "Man, wouldn't it be great if I could accept that endorsement get the racist vote?" Trump on the other hand? "Duh I'm not even sure who David Duke is. I'd have to research him." Now that's not exactly an "acceptance" of the endorsement. But even the most brain-dead hillbilly racists would understand and say "Well even Trump can't come out and just say he likes the KKK, but this was close enough." 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,248
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    If he was more polite,  more articulate, less disjointed, more artfully deliver his messages where would he be?
    You forgot one ! If only he was human ..
    If Trump was more polite, and more articulate, less abrasive, deliver messages in a more artistic way, more human... add as many adjectives as you want.
    Where would he be at this point?
    A minimum of 5% higher in his approval polls.
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,822
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    If he was more polite,  more articulate, less disjointed, more artfully deliver his messages where would he be?
    You forgot one ! If only he was human ..
    If Trump was more polite, and more articulate, less abrasive, deliver messages in a more artistic way, more human... add as many adjectives as you want.
    Where would he be at this point?
    A minimum of 5% higher in his approval polls.
    Conceivably it would be lower.  Maybe not, the the insane level of devotion would not be what it is.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,933
    I think the goofiness of Trump makes him popular. He's a cartoon. You can be free to be a racist and not even think too much about it because you are in the MAGA Toonville. 

    If he looked and acted like any other republican. It would be much clearer what is going on. And suddenly you can't be a racist, sexaul assaulter anymore and fill up arenas.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    RYMERYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
     Yeah but  when Republicans toe the mark and walk the line,  the evidence is very clear, they lose every single time.   When politicians start backpedaling and apologizing for this that and the other thing they're toast.  Unfortunately it is a smash mouth competition
    Unfortunately the strategy of being brash and cocky and ( in Donald's case) uncouth works.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,933
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    RYME said:
     Yeah but  when Republicans toe the mark and walk the line,  the evidence is very clear, they lose every single time.   When politicians start backpedaling and apologizing for this that and the other thing they're toast.  Unfortunately it is a smash mouth competition
    Unfortunately the strategy of being brash and cocky and ( in Donald's case) uncouth works.
    Don’t you mean, “and (in Team Trump Treason’s case) racist, misogynistic, homophobic and sexist works?”

    ”uncouth?” What an excuse.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    Uncouth.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/trump-lies-eric-alterman/

    Well over 10,000 lies at this point since not taking the oath of office.
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    RYMERYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    RYME said:
     Yeah but  when Republicans toe the mark and walk the line,  the evidence is very clear, they lose every single time.   When politicians start backpedaling and apologizing for this that and the other thing they're toast.  Unfortunately it is a smash mouth competition
    Unfortunately the strategy of being brash and cocky and ( in Donald's case) uncouth works.
    Don’t you mean, “and (in Team Trump Treason’s case) racist, misogynistic, homophobic and sexist works?”

    ”uncouth?” What an excuse.
    Lables labels labels labels, it's the easiest out.
    It Inoculates you and every other leftist from linear thought.
    You're thought process is all based on emotion.  You believe what ever the hell you want, you are driven by emotions not actual reality whatever you want it to be is what you believe. 
    Have you ever been around ordinary people, or a bunch of iron workers, or a road crew or or any other type of blue collar hard hat lunch bucket folks????
    They don't give a s*** about all those labels.  They want results.
    If Donald Trump showed you his toenail clippers you would freak out man. That's how derailed you've gotten in this out rage culture.  
    You think all these other politicians and presidents forget people in government,,,you think people in general throughout the ages past present and future are squeaky clean as the pure driven snow?  Tell me who is.

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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,626
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
     Yeah but  when Republicans toe the mark and walk the line,  the evidence is very clear, they lose every single time.   When politicians start backpedaling and apologizing for this that and the other thing they're toast.  Unfortunately it is a smash mouth competition
    Unfortunately the strategy of being brash and cocky and ( in Donald's case) uncouth works.
    Don’t you mean, “and (in Team Trump Treason’s case) racist, misogynistic, homophobic and sexist works?”

    ”uncouth?” What an excuse.
    Lables labels labels labels, it's the easiest out.
    It Inoculates you and every other leftist from linear thought.
    You're thought process is all based on emotion.  You believe what ever the hell you want, you are driven by emotions not actual reality whatever you want it to be is what you believe. 
    Have you ever been around ordinary people, or a bunch of iron workers, or a road crew or or any other type of blue collar hard hat lunch bucket folks????
    They don't give a s*** about all those labels.  They want results.
    If Donald Trump showed you his toenail clippers you would freak out man. That's how derailed you've gotten in this out rage culture.  
    You think all these other politicians and presidents forget people in government,,,you think people in general throughout the ages past present and future are squeaky clean as the pure driven snow?  Tell me who is.

    I'm sorry, the character of our president is representative of the character of our country.  Trump seeks to divide the people with his rhetoric and creates policies to reward his supporters, not the country.  Now maybe you can argue that those policies do actually reward the country (I would strenuously disagree), but the way he frames them is designed to separate them.  In fact, ironic to your post, all of his rhetoric is emotion based, so I don't know how you can throw a stone when the president you support is the master of emotional manipulation.  
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
     Yeah but  when Republicans toe the mark and walk the line,  the evidence is very clear, they lose every single time.   When politicians start backpedaling and apologizing for this that and the other thing they're toast.  Unfortunately it is a smash mouth competition
    Unfortunately the strategy of being brash and cocky and ( in Donald's case) uncouth works.
    Don’t you mean, “and (in Team Trump Treason’s case) racist, misogynistic, homophobic and sexist works?”

    ”uncouth?” What an excuse.
    Lables labels labels labels, it's the easiest out.
    It Inoculates you and every other leftist from linear thought.
    You're thought process is all based on emotion.  You believe what ever the hell you want, you are driven by emotions not actual reality whatever you want it to be is what you believe. 
    Have you ever been around ordinary people, or a bunch of iron workers, or a road crew or or any other type of blue collar hard hat lunch bucket folks????
    They don't give a s*** about all those labels.  They want results.
    If Donald Trump showed you his toenail clippers you would freak out man. That's how derailed you've gotten in this out rage culture.  
    You think all these other politicians and presidents forget people in government,,,you think people in general throughout the ages past present and future are squeaky clean as the pure driven snow?  Tell me who is.

    I get it, you’re okay with a racist, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic and sexist asshole as POTUS because Team Trump Treason wears those labels well. Uncouth.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,626
    He's not a hack.  You may not like his politics, but he's qualified.  Unless there's something in the shadows, he'll be approved pretty quickly and without much fanfare. 
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    RYMERYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    edited July 2019
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
     Yeah but  when Republicans toe the mark and walk the line,  the evidence is very clear, they lose every single time.   When politicians start backpedaling and apologizing for this that and the other thing they're toast.  Unfortunately it is a smash mouth competition
    Unfortunately the strategy of being brash and cocky and ( in Donald's case) uncouth works.
    Don’t you mean, “and (in Team Trump Treason’s case) racist, misogynistic, homophobic and sexist works?”

    ”uncouth?” What an excuse.
    Lables labels labels labels, it's the easiest out.
    It Inoculates you and every other leftist from linear thought.
    You're thought process is all based on emotion.  You believe what ever the hell you want, you are driven by emotions not actual reality whatever you want it to be is what you believe. 
    Have you ever been around ordinary people, or a bunch of iron workers, or a road crew or or any other type of blue collar hard hat lunch bucket folks????
    They don't give a s*** about all those labels.  They want results.
    If Donald Trump showed you his toenail clippers you would freak out man. That's how derailed you've gotten in this out rage culture.  
    You think all these other politicians and presidents forget people in government,,,you think people in general throughout the ages past present and future are squeaky clean as the pure driven snow?  Tell me who is.

    I get it, you’re okay with a racist, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic and sexist asshole as POTUS because Team Trump Treason wears those labels well. Uncouth.
    Same old labels different day.  Have at it my friend.
    It's got nothing to do with being ok with all those lables.  Until your side does some work to understand The Why...  You are going to continue to ask yourselves why??
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,538
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
     Yeah but  when Republicans toe the mark and walk the line,  the evidence is very clear, they lose every single time.   When politicians start backpedaling and apologizing for this that and the other thing they're toast.  Unfortunately it is a smash mouth competition
    Unfortunately the strategy of being brash and cocky and ( in Donald's case) uncouth works.
    Don’t you mean, “and (in Team Trump Treason’s case) racist, misogynistic, homophobic and sexist works?”

    ”uncouth?” What an excuse.
    Lables labels labels labels, it's the easiest out.
    It Inoculates you and every other leftist from linear thought.
    You're thought process is all based on emotion.  You believe what ever the hell you want, you are driven by emotions not actual reality whatever you want it to be is what you believe. 
    Have you ever been around ordinary people, or a bunch of iron workers, or a road crew or or any other type of blue collar hard hat lunch bucket folks????
    They don't give a s*** about all those labels.  They want results.
    If Donald Trump showed you his toenail clippers you would freak out man. That's how derailed you've gotten in this out rage culture.  
    You think all these other politicians and presidents forget people in government,,,you think people in general throughout the ages past present and future are squeaky clean as the pure driven snow?  Tell me who is.

    I get it, you’re okay with a racist, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic and sexist asshole as POTUS because Team Trump Treason wears those labels well. Uncouth.
    You seem to forget that those on "the right" do not care one bit if the so-called president is a racist or a mysogynist  or a xenophobic white nationalist that ignores the constitution and rule of law as long as their 401K and financial net worth goes up and up and up.
    No morals
    No ethics
    No sense

    #ITMFA 

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
     Yeah but  when Republicans toe the mark and walk the line,  the evidence is very clear, they lose every single time.   When politicians start backpedaling and apologizing for this that and the other thing they're toast.  Unfortunately it is a smash mouth competition
    Unfortunately the strategy of being brash and cocky and ( in Donald's case) uncouth works.
    Don’t you mean, “and (in Team Trump Treason’s case) racist, misogynistic, homophobic and sexist works?”

    ”uncouth?” What an excuse.
    Lables labels labels labels, it's the easiest out.
    It Inoculates you and every other leftist from linear thought.
    You're thought process is all based on emotion.  You believe what ever the hell you want, you are driven by emotions not actual reality whatever you want it to be is what you believe. 
    Have you ever been around ordinary people, or a bunch of iron workers, or a road crew or or any other type of blue collar hard hat lunch bucket folks????
    They don't give a s*** about all those labels.  They want results.
    If Donald Trump showed you his toenail clippers you would freak out man. That's how derailed you've gotten in this out rage culture.  
    You think all these other politicians and presidents forget people in government,,,you think people in general throughout the ages past present and future are squeaky clean as the pure driven snow?  Tell me who is.

    I get it, you’re okay with a racist, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic and sexist asshole as POTUS because Team Trump Treason wears those labels well. Uncouth.
    Same old labels different day.  Have at it my friend.
    It's got nothing to do with being ok with all those lables.  Until your side does some work to understand The Why...  You are going to continue to ask yourselves why??
    Same old facts, different week. The facts about Team Trump Treason that have existed as long as he’s been alive. Facts ever matter to you? Ever try to understand how Team Trump Treason has screwed over those “blue collar” types you appear to identify with and care so much about? You ever been around the “other?” You know, the minority, the immigrant, the homosexual or transgendered? You ever “been around” the sexually assaulted? You ever been around the screwed over and marginalized, sold a bill of goods, maybe a swamp? You ever been around really, really smart people? Like intelligent? And I don’t mean like “life is like a box of chocolates” intelligent. Like people who drive innovation and the future, like Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Elon Musk intelligent? Until your side understands facts, the significance of them and how you’re being played as a sucker, you’ll get absolutely everything you deserve. I don’t ask myself why because I know why and I’m willing to bet that.  :)
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