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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,473
    jeffbr said:
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    mrussel1 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    man, picking apart the man's suits and making fun of how he looks. you guys are hitting fox-news-level-tan-suit-on-obama type bullshit. 
    I don't pick on his looks and agree that's bullshit, but his clothes are another matter, because I think those choices are part of his insanity and poor/bizarre judgement and hyperactive ego. And showing up at the church on his way home from golfing is also meaningful. This is absolutely nothing like the Obama tans pants thing IMO.
    This is a Pearl Jam forum,  not Fox and Friends.  It's totally fair game.
    Anyone can say anything they want (as long as Kat is okay with it, lol), but I have talked against making fun of Trump's looks, like hair and hands, and have rejected the fat shaming some people do against him, so it was important to me to note why I think there is a distinction between that and this whole misfitted clothing issue, and it's not just an excuse. I really do think there is greater meaning to these choices of his. It's like if he started wearing a lampshade on his head.
    Wait till his 2nd term.  He'll either be in a jogging suit or pyjama's phase of his life...
    Exactly. I picture him in a nice burgundy, velour tracksuit with gold piping. 
    This is his term-2 look:


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,458
    edited June 2019
    man, picking apart the man's suits and making fun of how he looks. you guys are hitting fox-news-level-tan-suit-on-obama type bullshit. 
    Except....except, we're not a "news" organization. Noticeable difference there.
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,154
    man, picking apart the man's suits and making fun of how he looks. you guys are hitting fox-news-level-tan-suit-on-obama type bullshit. 
    Except....except, we're not a "news" organization. Noticeable difference there.
    It’s pretty stupid stuff really.  But whatever, it happens all the time here. It’s nit going to change. 
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,025
    Back to a serious policy discussion....

    Trump marks D-Day anniversary on last day of U.K. state visit



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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,749
    Well at least he seems normal in that photo.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,473
    Man,. I want Trump to grant Letterman an interview with him.


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,154
    Apparently an election 
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,590
    It was mentioned 

    And it's more ignorant right wing bullshit 
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,749
    Yeah, I posted it, along with how Trump is now keeping kids who are being held in migrant camps along the border from playing or accessing legal aid or from learning English. No response to either story. I think people are burning out.... which is exactly what Trump is counting on IMO.
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,368
    It was mentioned 

    And it's more ignorant right wing bullshit 
    PJ_Soul said:
    Yeah, I posted it, along with how Trump is now keeping kids who are being held in migrant camps along the border from playing or accessing legal aid or from learning English. No response to either story. I think people are burning out.... which is exactly what Trump is counting on IMO.
    Any medical research that can be done to help save lives that is stopped must be talked about.

    I don't come on this thread much, well, because of the thread...
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,972
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,087
    man, picking apart the man's suits and making fun of how he looks. you guys are hitting fox-news-level-tan-suit-on-obama type bullshit. 
    Except....except, we're not a "news" organization. Noticeable difference there.
    i obviously wasn't comparing fox news to the AMT. I'm talking about what is acceptable and "fair game" depends totally on who is being talked about here. 

    same old shit. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,801
    man, picking apart the man's suits and making fun of how he looks. you guys are hitting fox-news-level-tan-suit-on-obama type bullshit. 
    Except....except, we're not a "news" organization. Noticeable difference there.
    i obviously wasn't comparing fox news to the AMT. I'm talking about what is acceptable and "fair game" depends totally on who is being talked about here. 

    same old shit. 
    i'm happy to talk about Bernie's crazy ass hair.  
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    mrussel1 said:
    man, picking apart the man's suits and making fun of how he looks. you guys are hitting fox-news-level-tan-suit-on-obama type bullshit. 
    Except....except, we're not a "news" organization. Noticeable difference there.
    i obviously wasn't comparing fox news to the AMT. I'm talking about what is acceptable and "fair game" depends totally on who is being talked about here. 

    same old shit. 
    i'm happy to talk about Bernie's crazy ass hair.  
    I am happy to discuss Bernie's loud voice...this should exclude him from consideration...you'll be able to hear the state of the union address in Virginia with Bernie speaking...
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,154
    man, picking apart the man's suits and making fun of how he looks. you guys are hitting fox-news-level-tan-suit-on-obama type bullshit. 
    Except....except, we're not a "news" organization. Noticeable difference there.
    i obviously wasn't comparing fox news to the AMT. I'm talking about what is acceptable and "fair game" depends totally on who is being talked about here. 

    same old shit. 
    You mean I can’t talk about Hillary’s pants suits and how she looks in them? ;)
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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    man, picking apart the man's suits and making fun of how he looks. you guys are hitting fox-news-level-tan-suit-on-obama type bullshit. 
    Except....except, we're not a "news" organization. Noticeable difference there.
    i obviously wasn't comparing fox news to the AMT. I'm talking about what is acceptable and "fair game" depends totally on who is being talked about here. 

    same old shit. 
    You mean I can’t talk about Hillary’s pants suits and how she looks in them? ;)
    Are you saying her $13,000 pantsuits weren't flattering? lol. Funny how money can't buy fashion sense. 
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,473
    jeffbr said:
    man, picking apart the man's suits and making fun of how he looks. you guys are hitting fox-news-level-tan-suit-on-obama type bullshit. 
    Except....except, we're not a "news" organization. Noticeable difference there.
    i obviously wasn't comparing fox news to the AMT. I'm talking about what is acceptable and "fair game" depends totally on who is being talked about here. 

    same old shit. 
    You mean I can’t talk about Hillary’s pants suits and how she looks in them? ;)
    Are you saying her $13,000 pantsuits weren't flattering? lol. Funny how money can't buy fashion sense. 
    It's rock and roll though


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,749
    edited June 2019
    man, picking apart the man's suits and making fun of how he looks. you guys are hitting fox-news-level-tan-suit-on-obama type bullshit. 
    Except....except, we're not a "news" organization. Noticeable difference there.
    i obviously wasn't comparing fox news to the AMT. I'm talking about what is acceptable and "fair game" depends totally on who is being talked about here. 

    same old shit. 
    That isn't the case with me, as I explained. If Elizabeth Warren started appearing dressed in Holly Hobby outfits or something, you can bet that I'd be all over that too, and not because I just want to pick on her appearance. It would say something about her mental wellness.
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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/06/05/trump-wears-churchill-style-hat-during-piers-morgan-interview/amp/

    He said Churchill was “certainly” a hero, and claimed he had “similarities” with the legendary leader. “He was able to handle pressure very well,” Trump said.

    “He was a great man who reacted so well under the gun, under pressure. There are not many people like that.”

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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,749
    Hi! said:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/06/05/trump-wears-churchill-style-hat-during-piers-morgan-interview/amp/

    He said Churchill was “certainly” a hero, and claimed he had “similarities” with the legendary leader. “He was able to handle pressure very well,” Trump said.

    “He was a great man who reacted so well under the gun, under pressure. There are not many people like that.”


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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,473
    Hi! said:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/06/05/trump-wears-churchill-style-hat-during-piers-morgan-interview/amp/

    He said Churchill was “certainly” a hero, and claimed he had “similarities” with the legendary leader. “He was able to handle pressure very well,” Trump said.

    “He was a great man who reacted so well under the gun, under pressure. There are not many people like that.”


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,154
    PJ_Soul said:
    man, picking apart the man's suits and making fun of how he looks. you guys are hitting fox-news-level-tan-suit-on-obama type bullshit. 
    Except....except, we're not a "news" organization. Noticeable difference there.
    i obviously wasn't comparing fox news to the AMT. I'm talking about what is acceptable and "fair game" depends totally on who is being talked about here. 

    same old shit. 
    That isn't the case with me, as I explained. If Elizabeth Warren started appearing dressed in Holly Hobby outfits or something, you can bet that I'd be all over that too, and not because I just want to pick on her appearance. It would say something about her mental wellness.
    She’s more likely to start wearing deerskin once her polling numbers show her going home.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,801
    Holly Hobby.  That's pretty funny.  Haven't heard that in years. 
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,451
    PJ_Soul said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    man, picking apart the man's suits and making fun of how he looks. you guys are hitting fox-news-level-tan-suit-on-obama type bullshit. 
    I don't pick on his looks and agree that's bullshit, but his clothes are another matter, because I think those choices are part of his insanity and poor/bizarre judgement and hyperactive ego. And showing up at the church on his way home from golfing is also meaningful. This is absolutely nothing like the Obama tans pants thing IMO.
    This is a Pearl Jam forum,  not Fox and Friends.  It's totally fair game.
    Anyone can say anything they want (as long as Kat is okay with it, lol), but I have talked against making fun of Trump's looks, like hair and hands, and have rejected the fat shaming some people do against him, so it was important to me to note why I think there is a distinction between that and this whole misfitted clothing issue, and it's not just an excuse. I really do think there is greater meaning to these choices of his. It's like if he started wearing a lampshade on his head.
    Wait till his 2nd term.  He'll either be in a jogging suit or pyjama's phase of his life...
    Lmao 
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,451
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,341
     https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/05/opinion/trump-d-day-anniversary.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage&fbclid=IwAR0b3WNeAVTpPt2Fb9Lono3BzFp5fopt-Cmklsw7ayMiMaNUtLvYaoI0rNc

    The Donald Thinks D-Day Is About Him

    To have Trump commemorate the Normandy landings is to understand the word impostor.


    By Roger Cohen

    Opinion Columnist


    PARIS — How small he is! Small in spirit, in valor, in dignity, in statecraft, this American president who knows nothing of history and cares still less and now bestrides Europe with his family in tow like some tin-pot dictator with a terrified entourage.

    To have Donald Trump — the bone-spur evader of the Vietnam draft, the coddler of autocrats, the would-be destroyer of the European Union, the pay-up-now denigrator of NATO, the apologist for the white supremacists of Charlottesville — commemorate the boys from Kansas City and St. Paul who gave their lives for freedom is to understand the word impostor. You can’t make a sculpture from rotten wood.

    It’s worth saying again. If Europe is whole and free and at peace, it’s because of NATO and the European Union; it’s because the United States became a European power after World War II; it’s because America’s word was a solemn pledge; it’s because that word cemented alliances that were not zero-sum games but the foundation for stability and prosperity on both sides of the Atlantic.

    Of this, Trump understands nothing. Therefore he cannot comprehend the sacrifice at Omaha Beach 75 years ago. He cannot see that the postwar trans-Atlantic achievement — undergirded by the institutions and alliances he tramples upon with such crass truculence — was in fact the vindication of those young men who gave everything.

    As Eisenhower, speaking at the Normandy American Cemetery, last resting place of 9,387 Americans, told Walter Cronkite for the 20th anniversary of the D-Day landings: “These people gave us a chance, and they bought time for us, so that we can do better than we have before.”

    That was a solemn responsibility. For decades it was met, culminating with the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989. Doing better, however, is not rising nativism, xenophobia, nationalism and authoritarianism given a nod and a wink by the president of the United States. It’s not Brexit, Britain turning its back on the Europe it helped free.

    The American moral collapse personified by Trump is not “beautiful” or “phenomenal” or “incredible” or any of the president’s other clunky two-a-penny superlatives. It’s sickening and dangerous.

    My impression here is that Europe has gotten used to Trump to the point that it is no longer strange that the American president is a stranger. In less than two and a half years Trump has stripped his office of dignity, authority and values.

    His foreign policy increasingly consists of a single word, “tariffs.” His contempt for allies undermines American diplomacy, or whatever is left of it, from Iran to North Korea, from Venezuela to China. His trampling of truth is so consistent that when he says in London that Britain is the largest trading partner of the United States — it’s nowhere near that — the impulse is to shrug.

    Before arriving in London, Trump set the tone. He mocked the city’s mayor, Sadiq Khan, as short. It was a tweet in keeping with the president’s signature stunt as schoolyard bully. Khan, who had criticized “rolling out the red carpet” for Trump, responded by comparing the president to an 11-year-old.

    This was generous. Most 8-year-olds know better.

    Of course Khan — the brown Muslim son of a bus driver, self-made guy — would get under the skin of a man like Trump, who was born on third base and imbibed his reflexive racism in the family real estate business.

    Khan called Trump’s policies — on the reproductive rights of women, on immigrant children at the Mexican border, on “amplifying messages from racists” — the antithesis of Londoners’ values and “abhorrent.” In response, Trump tweeted that Khan was as bad as the “very dumb” New York Mayor Bill de Blasio, “only half his height.”

    There is something so disturbing about a very small man like Trump impugning the height of the mayor of the great international city he is visiting that even 28 months of progressive inurement to his outrages feels inadequate.

    America is much better than this, much better than an American president who, as the cartoonist Dave Granlund suggested, probably thinks the D in D-Day stands for Donald and spends the night of the commemoration trashing Bette Midler on Twitter.

    As for the Republican Party, don’t get me started. To recover its bearings the G.O.P. would do well to recall one of its own, Eisenhower, who in that same 20th-anniversary interview said that America and its allies stormed the Normandy beaches “for one purpose only.”

    It was not to “fulfill any ambitions that America had for conquest.” No, it was “just to preserve freedom, systems of self-government in the world.” It was an act, in other words, consistent with the highest ideals of the American idea that Trump and his Republican enablers seem so intent on eviscerating.


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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,473
    edited June 2019
    *googling Holly Hobby*
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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