Donald Trump

Thirty Bills Unpaid

vaggar99 said:

brianlux said:

vaggar99 said:

https://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/ron-reagan-on-trump-it-s-going-to-get-worse-1286343747800?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_hb

Good stuff there. 

So it's obvious that a minority of Americans support Trump, he is (as they said in the video) getting away with stuff no other president would get away with, and yet we're still stuck with him because Congress does not have the balls or ovaries to do something about it.  What a foolish, deranged and weak situation.  Really pathetic.  This never ceases to amaze me.  What an embarrassment to be an American right now.

i definitely feel naive for thinking that Obama was going to help race relations in this country.  Its obviously gotten worst.   This last 3 years or so have been eye opening.

The brain is a powerful thing.

Just like convincing brainwashed religious people that there is no God is next to impossible... convincing brainwashed racist people that colored folks are nice is next to impossible as well.

josevolution

vaggar99 said:

brianlux said:

vaggar99 said:

https://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/ron-reagan-on-trump-it-s-going-to-get-worse-1286343747800?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_hb

Good stuff there. 

So it's obvious that a minority of Americans support Trump, he is (as they said in the video) getting away with stuff no other president would get away with, and yet we're still stuck with him because Congress does not have the balls or ovaries to do something about it.  What a foolish, deranged and weak situation.  Really pathetic.  This never ceases to amaze me.  What an embarrassment to be an American right now.

i definitely feel naive for thinking that Obama was going to help race relations in this country.  Its obviously gotten worst.   This last 3 years or so have been eye opening.

No doubt I bet a lot of folks felt the same way I know I did but I never thought how wide the division could get and I’m afraid it’s only going to get worse ...

brianlux

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

brianlux said:

vaggar99 said:

https://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/ron-reagan-on-trump-it-s-going-to-get-worse-1286343747800?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_hb

Good stuff there. 

So it's obvious that a minority of Americans support Trump, he is (as they said in the video) getting away with stuff no other president would get away with, and yet we're still stuck with him because Congress does not have the balls or ovaries to do something about it.  What a foolish, deranged and weak situation.  Really pathetic.  This never ceases to amaze me.  What an embarrassment to be an American right now.

It's definitely a low point, but hang in there, Brian.

The clouds always move away from the sun!

I hope!  And the sooner the better!

vaggar99 said:

brianlux said:

vaggar99 said:

https://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/ron-reagan-on-trump-it-s-going-to-get-worse-1286343747800?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_hb

Good stuff there. 

So it's obvious that a minority of Americans support Trump, he is (as they said in the video) getting away with stuff no other president would get away with, and yet we're still stuck with him because Congress does not have the balls or ovaries to do something about it.  What a foolish, deranged and weak situation.  Really pathetic.  This never ceases to amaze me.  What an embarrassment to be an American right now.

i definitely feel naive for thinking that Obama was going to help race relations in this country.  Its obviously gotten worst.   This last 3 years or so have been eye opening.

It's weird being a part of the so called "Age of Aquarius" generation that was supposedly going to change the world.  Well I guess we did, I just didn't realize "The Age Aquarius" equates to the age of major fuck ups!

LongestRoad

PJ_Soul said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

vaggar99 said:

Good People Don’t Defend A Bad Man

January 12, 2018 / John Pavlovitz

At times in this life it can be a challenge to figure out who the bad people are, but sometimes they help you.

Sometimes they do the work for you.

Sometimes with their every vulgar, bitter word from their mouth, they testify to their personal malignancy and they make it easy to identify them.

Generally speaking, there are things that good people do and things good people don’t do.

Good people don’t refer to entire countries as “shitholes”—most notably countries that have given birth to our very humanity; ones that for hundreds of years have been colonized and poached and mined of their riches by powerful white men; countries whose people have been enslaved and sold and forced to come and build your country. 

Good people by any measurement we might use—simply don’t say such things.

Of course good people also don’t say they could grab women by the genitalia, either.
They don’t defend racists and nazis and call them “fine people,” days after murdering a young girl and terrorizing an American city.
They don’t brag about their penis size during debates, or suggest protestors at campaign rallies should be roughed up, or crack jokes about captured war heroes, or make fun of the physically disabled.
They don’t.

Good people don’t tweet anti-Muslim rhetoric in the moments immediately following a bombing in order to bolster a position.
They don’t leave American territories filled with brown skinned people without power for months upon months, after publicly ridiculing their public servants and questioning their people’s resolve.
They don’t pull children from the arms of their parents and place them in cages and detention centers.
They don’t erase protections for the water and the air, for the elderly, the terminally ill, the LGBTQ.
They don’t take away healthcare from the sick and the poor without an alternative.
They don’t gouge the working poor and shelter the wealthy.
They don’t abuse their unrivaled platform to Twitter-bait world leaders and to taunt private citizens.
Good people don’t prey upon the vulnerable, they don’t leverage their power to bully dissenters, and they don’t campaign for sexual predators.

But this President is not a good human being, and there’s simply no way around this truth.

He is the ugliest personification of the Ugly American, which is why, as long as he is here and as long as he represents this nation, we will be a fractured mess and a global embarrassment. He will be the ever lowering bar of our legacy in the world.

And what is painfully obvious in these moments, isn’t simply that the person alleging to lead this country is a terrible human being—it is that anyone left still defending him, applauding him, justifying him, amening him, probably is too.

At this point, the only reason left to support this President, is that he reflects your hateful heart; he shares your contempt of people of color, your hostility toward outsiders, your ignorant bigotry, your feeling of supremacy.

A white President calling countries filled with people of color shitholes, is so far beyond the pale, so beneath decency, and so blatantly racist that it shouldn’t merit conversation. It should be universally condemned. Humanity should be in agreement in abhorring it.

And yet today (like so many other seemingly rock bottom days in the past twelve months) they will be out there: white people claiming to be good people and Christian people, who will make excuses for him or debate his motives or diminish the damage. 

They will dig their heels in to explain away or to defend, what at the end of the day is simply a bad human being saying the things that bad human beings say because their hearts harbor very bad things.

No, good people don’t call countries filled with beautiful, creative, loving men and women shitholes or do most of the horrible things he does.

And good people don’t defend people who do.

You’re going to have to make a choice here.

https://johnpavlovitz.com/2018/01/12/good-people-dont-defend-bad-man/

Made me sad and angry reading this.
How low have people stooped that they voted and continue to support this germ.
I personally have cut someone off from my life because of his support for Trump.

I have too. I had a friend - a Canadian non-white person no less - who lost his mind and basically became a Trump troll for some reason. I tried to deal with it for a while, but he just got worse and worse, started digging his heels in, and even started getting in arguments with stangers in bars about it and shit. I finally just had to cut him off. Blocked him on facebook, got rid of his contact info. He basically just made the decision to be "the asshole". I think he gets off on it. I don't need that kind of idiocy in my life.

so your "friend" didn't agree with people at a bar and they were arguing with him. take your time and read that over. 
Your "friend doesn't agree with your politics as much as you don't agree with his but he didn't unfriend you. you unfriended him. 
Like I always say, liberals want everyone to be free to believe whatever they want as long as you believe exactly as they believe. 
I think your "friend" is lucky.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

LongestRoad said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

vaggar99 said:

Good People Don’t Defend A Bad Man

January 12, 2018 / John Pavlovitz

At times in this life it can be a challenge to figure out who the bad people are, but sometimes they help you.

Sometimes they do the work for you.

Sometimes with their every vulgar, bitter word from their mouth, they testify to their personal malignancy and they make it easy to identify them.

Generally speaking, there are things that good people do and things good people don’t do.

Good people don’t refer to entire countries as “shitholes”—most notably countries that have given birth to our very humanity; ones that for hundreds of years have been colonized and poached and mined of their riches by powerful white men; countries whose people have been enslaved and sold and forced to come and build your country. 

Good people by any measurement we might use—simply don’t say such things.

Of course good people also don’t say they could grab women by the genitalia, either.
They don’t defend racists and nazis and call them “fine people,” days after murdering a young girl and terrorizing an American city.
They don’t brag about their penis size during debates, or suggest protestors at campaign rallies should be roughed up, or crack jokes about captured war heroes, or make fun of the physically disabled.
They don’t.

Good people don’t tweet anti-Muslim rhetoric in the moments immediately following a bombing in order to bolster a position.
They don’t leave American territories filled with brown skinned people without power for months upon months, after publicly ridiculing their public servants and questioning their people’s resolve.
They don’t pull children from the arms of their parents and place them in cages and detention centers.
They don’t erase protections for the water and the air, for the elderly, the terminally ill, the LGBTQ.
They don’t take away healthcare from the sick and the poor without an alternative.
They don’t gouge the working poor and shelter the wealthy.
They don’t abuse their unrivaled platform to Twitter-bait world leaders and to taunt private citizens.
Good people don’t prey upon the vulnerable, they don’t leverage their power to bully dissenters, and they don’t campaign for sexual predators.

But this President is not a good human being, and there’s simply no way around this truth.

He is the ugliest personification of the Ugly American, which is why, as long as he is here and as long as he represents this nation, we will be a fractured mess and a global embarrassment. He will be the ever lowering bar of our legacy in the world.

And what is painfully obvious in these moments, isn’t simply that the person alleging to lead this country is a terrible human being—it is that anyone left still defending him, applauding him, justifying him, amening him, probably is too.

At this point, the only reason left to support this President, is that he reflects your hateful heart; he shares your contempt of people of color, your hostility toward outsiders, your ignorant bigotry, your feeling of supremacy.

A white President calling countries filled with people of color shitholes, is so far beyond the pale, so beneath decency, and so blatantly racist that it shouldn’t merit conversation. It should be universally condemned. Humanity should be in agreement in abhorring it.

And yet today (like so many other seemingly rock bottom days in the past twelve months) they will be out there: white people claiming to be good people and Christian people, who will make excuses for him or debate his motives or diminish the damage. 

They will dig their heels in to explain away or to defend, what at the end of the day is simply a bad human being saying the things that bad human beings say because their hearts harbor very bad things.

No, good people don’t call countries filled with beautiful, creative, loving men and women shitholes or do most of the horrible things he does.

And good people don’t defend people who do.

You’re going to have to make a choice here.

https://johnpavlovitz.com/2018/01/12/good-people-dont-defend-bad-man/

Made me sad and angry reading this.
How low have people stooped that they voted and continue to support this germ.
I personally have cut someone off from my life because of his support for Trump.

I have too. I had a friend - a Canadian non-white person no less - who lost his mind and basically became a Trump troll for some reason. I tried to deal with it for a while, but he just got worse and worse, started digging his heels in, and even started getting in arguments with stangers in bars about it and shit. I finally just had to cut him off. Blocked him on facebook, got rid of his contact info. He basically just made the decision to be "the asshole". I think he gets off on it. I don't need that kind of idiocy in my life.

so your "friend" didn't agree with people at a bar and they were arguing with him. take your time and read that over. 
Your "friend doesn't agree with your politics as much as you don't agree with his but he didn't unfriend you. you unfriended him. 
Like I always say, liberals want everyone to be free to believe whatever they want as long as you believe exactly as they believe. 
I think your "friend" is lucky.

Yah.

Take your time and think about this.

Her friend proved he was a loser when he began spouting garbage that made him unlikeable. Politics are one thing... hatred and ignorance are a whole other.

LongestRoad

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

LongestRoad said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

vaggar99 said:

Good People Don’t Defend A Bad Man

January 12, 2018 / John Pavlovitz

At times in this life it can be a challenge to figure out who the bad people are, but sometimes they help you.

Sometimes they do the work for you.

Sometimes with their every vulgar, bitter word from their mouth, they testify to their personal malignancy and they make it easy to identify them.

Generally speaking, there are things that good people do and things good people don’t do.

Good people don’t refer to entire countries as “shitholes”—most notably countries that have given birth to our very humanity; ones that for hundreds of years have been colonized and poached and mined of their riches by powerful white men; countries whose people have been enslaved and sold and forced to come and build your country. 

Good people by any measurement we might use—simply don’t say such things.

Of course good people also don’t say they could grab women by the genitalia, either.
They don’t defend racists and nazis and call them “fine people,” days after murdering a young girl and terrorizing an American city.
They don’t brag about their penis size during debates, or suggest protestors at campaign rallies should be roughed up, or crack jokes about captured war heroes, or make fun of the physically disabled.
They don’t.

Good people don’t tweet anti-Muslim rhetoric in the moments immediately following a bombing in order to bolster a position.
They don’t leave American territories filled with brown skinned people without power for months upon months, after publicly ridiculing their public servants and questioning their people’s resolve.
They don’t pull children from the arms of their parents and place them in cages and detention centers.
They don’t erase protections for the water and the air, for the elderly, the terminally ill, the LGBTQ.
They don’t take away healthcare from the sick and the poor without an alternative.
They don’t gouge the working poor and shelter the wealthy.
They don’t abuse their unrivaled platform to Twitter-bait world leaders and to taunt private citizens.
Good people don’t prey upon the vulnerable, they don’t leverage their power to bully dissenters, and they don’t campaign for sexual predators.

But this President is not a good human being, and there’s simply no way around this truth.

He is the ugliest personification of the Ugly American, which is why, as long as he is here and as long as he represents this nation, we will be a fractured mess and a global embarrassment. He will be the ever lowering bar of our legacy in the world.

And what is painfully obvious in these moments, isn’t simply that the person alleging to lead this country is a terrible human being—it is that anyone left still defending him, applauding him, justifying him, amening him, probably is too.

At this point, the only reason left to support this President, is that he reflects your hateful heart; he shares your contempt of people of color, your hostility toward outsiders, your ignorant bigotry, your feeling of supremacy.

A white President calling countries filled with people of color shitholes, is so far beyond the pale, so beneath decency, and so blatantly racist that it shouldn’t merit conversation. It should be universally condemned. Humanity should be in agreement in abhorring it.

And yet today (like so many other seemingly rock bottom days in the past twelve months) they will be out there: white people claiming to be good people and Christian people, who will make excuses for him or debate his motives or diminish the damage. 

They will dig their heels in to explain away or to defend, what at the end of the day is simply a bad human being saying the things that bad human beings say because their hearts harbor very bad things.

No, good people don’t call countries filled with beautiful, creative, loving men and women shitholes or do most of the horrible things he does.

And good people don’t defend people who do.

You’re going to have to make a choice here.

https://johnpavlovitz.com/2018/01/12/good-people-dont-defend-bad-man/

Made me sad and angry reading this.
How low have people stooped that they voted and continue to support this germ.
I personally have cut someone off from my life because of his support for Trump.

I have too. I had a friend - a Canadian non-white person no less - who lost his mind and basically became a Trump troll for some reason. I tried to deal with it for a while, but he just got worse and worse, started digging his heels in, and even started getting in arguments with stangers in bars about it and shit. I finally just had to cut him off. Blocked him on facebook, got rid of his contact info. He basically just made the decision to be "the asshole". I think he gets off on it. I don't need that kind of idiocy in my life.

so your "friend" didn't agree with people at a bar and they were arguing with him. take your time and read that over. 
Your "friend doesn't agree with your politics as much as you don't agree with his but he didn't unfriend you. you unfriended him. 
Like I always say, liberals want everyone to be free to believe whatever they want as long as you believe exactly as they believe. 
I think your "friend" is lucky.

Yah.

Take your time and think about this.

Her friend proved he was a loser when he began spouting garbage that made him unlikeable. Politics are one thing... hatred and ignorance are a whole other.

I must have missed the part with the ignorance and hatred in it. I only see wording like digging in etc. I don't see specifics. 

Thoughts_Arrive

cincybearcat said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

tbergs said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Why does he have a star?
Is it because of his 2 second cameo in Home Alone?

His shitty reality show. 

I thought stars are only for film stars not reality tv stars.
It wouldn't surprise me that he paid to have it placed on the walk given the narcissist that he is.

Ummmm everyone that has a star pays for the star

oh really, who would've thought....

oftenreading

Thoughts_Arrive said:

cincybearcat said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

tbergs said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Why does he have a star?
Is it because of his 2 second cameo in Home Alone?

His shitty reality show. 

I thought stars are only for film stars not reality tv stars.
It wouldn't surprise me that he paid to have it placed on the walk given the narcissist that he is.

Ummmm everyone that has a star pays for the star

oh really, who would've thought....

It’s true that someone pays for it, and it’s pretty expensive. I understand that generally the person or organization that puts in the nomination is responsible for paying. I think it’s safe to say that Trump had Cohen arrange the nomination and payment . 

Halifax2TheMax

oftenreading said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

cincybearcat said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

tbergs said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Why does he have a star?
Is it because of his 2 second cameo in Home Alone?

His shitty reality show. 

I thought stars are only for film stars not reality tv stars.
It wouldn't surprise me that he paid to have it placed on the walk given the narcissist that he is.

Ummmm everyone that has a star pays for the star

oh really, who would've thought....

It’s true that someone pays for it, and it’s pretty expensive. I understand that generally the person or organization that puts in the nomination is responsible for paying. I think it’s safe to say that Trump had Cohen arrange the nomination and payment . 

With someone else’s money.

mfc2006

He should be out of office. What an absolute disgrace.

brianlux

LongestRoad said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

vaggar99 said:

Good People Don’t Defend A Bad Man

January 12, 2018 / John Pavlovitz

At times in this life it can be a challenge to figure out who the bad people are, but sometimes they help you.

Sometimes they do the work for you.

Sometimes with their every vulgar, bitter word from their mouth, they testify to their personal malignancy and they make it easy to identify them.

Generally speaking, there are things that good people do and things good people don’t do.

Good people don’t refer to entire countries as “shitholes”—most notably countries that have given birth to our very humanity; ones that for hundreds of years have been colonized and poached and mined of their riches by powerful white men; countries whose people have been enslaved and sold and forced to come and build your country. 

Good people by any measurement we might use—simply don’t say such things.

Of course good people also don’t say they could grab women by the genitalia, either.
They don’t defend racists and nazis and call them “fine people,” days after murdering a young girl and terrorizing an American city.
They don’t brag about their penis size during debates, or suggest protestors at campaign rallies should be roughed up, or crack jokes about captured war heroes, or make fun of the physically disabled.
They don’t.

Good people don’t tweet anti-Muslim rhetoric in the moments immediately following a bombing in order to bolster a position.
They don’t leave American territories filled with brown skinned people without power for months upon months, after publicly ridiculing their public servants and questioning their people’s resolve.
They don’t pull children from the arms of their parents and place them in cages and detention centers.
They don’t erase protections for the water and the air, for the elderly, the terminally ill, the LGBTQ.
They don’t take away healthcare from the sick and the poor without an alternative.
They don’t gouge the working poor and shelter the wealthy.
They don’t abuse their unrivaled platform to Twitter-bait world leaders and to taunt private citizens.
Good people don’t prey upon the vulnerable, they don’t leverage their power to bully dissenters, and they don’t campaign for sexual predators.

But this President is not a good human being, and there’s simply no way around this truth.

He is the ugliest personification of the Ugly American, which is why, as long as he is here and as long as he represents this nation, we will be a fractured mess and a global embarrassment. He will be the ever lowering bar of our legacy in the world.

And what is painfully obvious in these moments, isn’t simply that the person alleging to lead this country is a terrible human being—it is that anyone left still defending him, applauding him, justifying him, amening him, probably is too.

At this point, the only reason left to support this President, is that he reflects your hateful heart; he shares your contempt of people of color, your hostility toward outsiders, your ignorant bigotry, your feeling of supremacy.

A white President calling countries filled with people of color shitholes, is so far beyond the pale, so beneath decency, and so blatantly racist that it shouldn’t merit conversation. It should be universally condemned. Humanity should be in agreement in abhorring it.

And yet today (like so many other seemingly rock bottom days in the past twelve months) they will be out there: white people claiming to be good people and Christian people, who will make excuses for him or debate his motives or diminish the damage. 

They will dig their heels in to explain away or to defend, what at the end of the day is simply a bad human being saying the things that bad human beings say because their hearts harbor very bad things.

No, good people don’t call countries filled with beautiful, creative, loving men and women shitholes or do most of the horrible things he does.

And good people don’t defend people who do.

You’re going to have to make a choice here.

https://johnpavlovitz.com/2018/01/12/good-people-dont-defend-bad-man/

Made me sad and angry reading this.
How low have people stooped that they voted and continue to support this germ.
I personally have cut someone off from my life because of his support for Trump.

I have too. I had a friend - a Canadian non-white person no less - who lost his mind and basically became a Trump troll for some reason. I tried to deal with it for a while, but he just got worse and worse, started digging his heels in, and even started getting in arguments with stangers in bars about it and shit. I finally just had to cut him off. Blocked him on facebook, got rid of his contact info. He basically just made the decision to be "the asshole". I think he gets off on it. I don't need that kind of idiocy in my life.

so your "friend" didn't agree with people at a bar and they were arguing with him. take your time and read that over. 
Your "friend doesn't agree with your politics as much as you don't agree with his but he didn't unfriend you. you unfriended him. 
Like I always say, liberals want everyone to be free to believe whatever they want as long as you believe exactly as they believe. 
I think your "friend" is lucky.

Wow!    You slipped in that "liberals want everything free" thing?    Wow! 

Thoughts_Arrive

oftenreading said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

cincybearcat said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

tbergs said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Why does he have a star?
Is it because of his 2 second cameo in Home Alone?

His shitty reality show. 

I thought stars are only for film stars not reality tv stars.
It wouldn't surprise me that he paid to have it placed on the walk given the narcissist that he is.

Ummmm everyone that has a star pays for the star

oh really, who would've thought....

It’s true that someone pays for it, and it’s pretty expensive. I understand that generally the person or organization that puts in the nomination is responsible for paying. I think it’s safe to say that Trump had Cohen arrange the nomination and payment . 

That's just ridiculous. It should be awarded independently. 

LongestRoad

brianlux said:

LongestRoad said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

vaggar99 said:

Good People Don’t Defend A Bad Man

January 12, 2018 / John Pavlovitz

At times in this life it can be a challenge to figure out who the bad people are, but sometimes they help you.

Sometimes they do the work for you.

Sometimes with their every vulgar, bitter word from their mouth, they testify to their personal malignancy and they make it easy to identify them.

Generally speaking, there are things that good people do and things good people don’t do.

Good people don’t refer to entire countries as “shitholes”—most notably countries that have given birth to our very humanity; ones that for hundreds of years have been colonized and poached and mined of their riches by powerful white men; countries whose people have been enslaved and sold and forced to come and build your country. 

Good people by any measurement we might use—simply don’t say such things.

Of course good people also don’t say they could grab women by the genitalia, either.
They don’t defend racists and nazis and call them “fine people,” days after murdering a young girl and terrorizing an American city.
They don’t brag about their penis size during debates, or suggest protestors at campaign rallies should be roughed up, or crack jokes about captured war heroes, or make fun of the physically disabled.
They don’t.

Good people don’t tweet anti-Muslim rhetoric in the moments immediately following a bombing in order to bolster a position.
They don’t leave American territories filled with brown skinned people without power for months upon months, after publicly ridiculing their public servants and questioning their people’s resolve.
They don’t pull children from the arms of their parents and place them in cages and detention centers.
They don’t erase protections for the water and the air, for the elderly, the terminally ill, the LGBTQ.
They don’t take away healthcare from the sick and the poor without an alternative.
They don’t gouge the working poor and shelter the wealthy.
They don’t abuse their unrivaled platform to Twitter-bait world leaders and to taunt private citizens.
Good people don’t prey upon the vulnerable, they don’t leverage their power to bully dissenters, and they don’t campaign for sexual predators.

But this President is not a good human being, and there’s simply no way around this truth.

He is the ugliest personification of the Ugly American, which is why, as long as he is here and as long as he represents this nation, we will be a fractured mess and a global embarrassment. He will be the ever lowering bar of our legacy in the world.

And what is painfully obvious in these moments, isn’t simply that the person alleging to lead this country is a terrible human being—it is that anyone left still defending him, applauding him, justifying him, amening him, probably is too.

At this point, the only reason left to support this President, is that he reflects your hateful heart; he shares your contempt of people of color, your hostility toward outsiders, your ignorant bigotry, your feeling of supremacy.

A white President calling countries filled with people of color shitholes, is so far beyond the pale, so beneath decency, and so blatantly racist that it shouldn’t merit conversation. It should be universally condemned. Humanity should be in agreement in abhorring it.

And yet today (like so many other seemingly rock bottom days in the past twelve months) they will be out there: white people claiming to be good people and Christian people, who will make excuses for him or debate his motives or diminish the damage. 

They will dig their heels in to explain away or to defend, what at the end of the day is simply a bad human being saying the things that bad human beings say because their hearts harbor very bad things.

No, good people don’t call countries filled with beautiful, creative, loving men and women shitholes or do most of the horrible things he does.

And good people don’t defend people who do.

You’re going to have to make a choice here.

https://johnpavlovitz.com/2018/01/12/good-people-dont-defend-bad-man/

Made me sad and angry reading this.
How low have people stooped that they voted and continue to support this germ.
I personally have cut someone off from my life because of his support for Trump.

I have too. I had a friend - a Canadian non-white person no less - who lost his mind and basically became a Trump troll for some reason. I tried to deal with it for a while, but he just got worse and worse, started digging his heels in, and even started getting in arguments with stangers in bars about it and shit. I finally just had to cut him off. Blocked him on facebook, got rid of his contact info. He basically just made the decision to be "the asshole". I think he gets off on it. I don't need that kind of idiocy in my life.

so your "friend" didn't agree with people at a bar and they were arguing with him. take your time and read that over. 
Your "friend doesn't agree with your politics as much as you don't agree with his but he didn't unfriend you. you unfriended him. 
Like I always say, liberals want everyone to be free to believe whatever they want as long as you believe exactly as they believe. 
I think your "friend" is lucky.

Wow!    You slipped in that "liberals want everything free" thing?    Wow! 

Liberals want their form of freedom which is agree to their view or be gone. Only the extremists can't see that freedom means free to have different views. 

my2hands

LongestRoad said:

brianlux said:

LongestRoad said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

vaggar99 said:

Good People Don’t Defend A Bad Man

January 12, 2018 / John Pavlovitz

At times in this life it can be a challenge to figure out who the bad people are, but sometimes they help you.

Sometimes they do the work for you.

Sometimes with their every vulgar, bitter word from their mouth, they testify to their personal malignancy and they make it easy to identify them.

Generally speaking, there are things that good people do and things good people don’t do.

Good people don’t refer to entire countries as “shitholes”—most notably countries that have given birth to our very humanity; ones that for hundreds of years have been colonized and poached and mined of their riches by powerful white men; countries whose people have been enslaved and sold and forced to come and build your country. 

Good people by any measurement we might use—simply don’t say such things.

Of course good people also don’t say they could grab women by the genitalia, either.
They don’t defend racists and nazis and call them “fine people,” days after murdering a young girl and terrorizing an American city.
They don’t brag about their penis size during debates, or suggest protestors at campaign rallies should be roughed up, or crack jokes about captured war heroes, or make fun of the physically disabled.
They don’t.

Good people don’t tweet anti-Muslim rhetoric in the moments immediately following a bombing in order to bolster a position.
They don’t leave American territories filled with brown skinned people without power for months upon months, after publicly ridiculing their public servants and questioning their people’s resolve.
They don’t pull children from the arms of their parents and place them in cages and detention centers.
They don’t erase protections for the water and the air, for the elderly, the terminally ill, the LGBTQ.
They don’t take away healthcare from the sick and the poor without an alternative.
They don’t gouge the working poor and shelter the wealthy.
They don’t abuse their unrivaled platform to Twitter-bait world leaders and to taunt private citizens.
Good people don’t prey upon the vulnerable, they don’t leverage their power to bully dissenters, and they don’t campaign for sexual predators.

But this President is not a good human being, and there’s simply no way around this truth.

He is the ugliest personification of the Ugly American, which is why, as long as he is here and as long as he represents this nation, we will be a fractured mess and a global embarrassment. He will be the ever lowering bar of our legacy in the world.

And what is painfully obvious in these moments, isn’t simply that the person alleging to lead this country is a terrible human being—it is that anyone left still defending him, applauding him, justifying him, amening him, probably is too.

At this point, the only reason left to support this President, is that he reflects your hateful heart; he shares your contempt of people of color, your hostility toward outsiders, your ignorant bigotry, your feeling of supremacy.

A white President calling countries filled with people of color shitholes, is so far beyond the pale, so beneath decency, and so blatantly racist that it shouldn’t merit conversation. It should be universally condemned. Humanity should be in agreement in abhorring it.

And yet today (like so many other seemingly rock bottom days in the past twelve months) they will be out there: white people claiming to be good people and Christian people, who will make excuses for him or debate his motives or diminish the damage. 

They will dig their heels in to explain away or to defend, what at the end of the day is simply a bad human being saying the things that bad human beings say because their hearts harbor very bad things.

No, good people don’t call countries filled with beautiful, creative, loving men and women shitholes or do most of the horrible things he does.

And good people don’t defend people who do.

You’re going to have to make a choice here.

https://johnpavlovitz.com/2018/01/12/good-people-dont-defend-bad-man/

Made me sad and angry reading this.
How low have people stooped that they voted and continue to support this germ.
I personally have cut someone off from my life because of his support for Trump.

I have too. I had a friend - a Canadian non-white person no less - who lost his mind and basically became a Trump troll for some reason. I tried to deal with it for a while, but he just got worse and worse, started digging his heels in, and even started getting in arguments with stangers in bars about it and shit. I finally just had to cut him off. Blocked him on facebook, got rid of his contact info. He basically just made the decision to be "the asshole". I think he gets off on it. I don't need that kind of idiocy in my life.

so your "friend" didn't agree with people at a bar and they were arguing with him. take your time and read that over. 
Your "friend doesn't agree with your politics as much as you don't agree with his but he didn't unfriend you. you unfriended him. 
Like I always say, liberals want everyone to be free to believe whatever they want as long as you believe exactly as they believe. 
I think your "friend" is lucky.

Wow!    You slipped in that "liberals want everything free" thing?    Wow! 

Liberals want their form of freedom which is agree to their view or be gone. Only the extremists can't see that freedom means free to have different views. 

Meanwhile, back here in reality, your POTUS calls any negative news about him, or any news that doesn't blindly serve his agenda, as "fake news" and dismisses it... while you applaud & cheer

Nice try though

Halifax2TheMax

my2hands said:

LongestRoad said:

brianlux said:

LongestRoad said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

vaggar99 said:

Good People Don’t Defend A Bad Man

January 12, 2018 / John Pavlovitz

At times in this life it can be a challenge to figure out who the bad people are, but sometimes they help you.

Sometimes they do the work for you.

Sometimes with their every vulgar, bitter word from their mouth, they testify to their personal malignancy and they make it easy to identify them.

Generally speaking, there are things that good people do and things good people don’t do.

Good people don’t refer to entire countries as “shitholes”—most notably countries that have given birth to our very humanity; ones that for hundreds of years have been colonized and poached and mined of their riches by powerful white men; countries whose people have been enslaved and sold and forced to come and build your country. 

Good people by any measurement we might use—simply don’t say such things.

Of course good people also don’t say they could grab women by the genitalia, either.
They don’t defend racists and nazis and call them “fine people,” days after murdering a young girl and terrorizing an American city.
They don’t brag about their penis size during debates, or suggest protestors at campaign rallies should be roughed up, or crack jokes about captured war heroes, or make fun of the physically disabled.
They don’t.

Good people don’t tweet anti-Muslim rhetoric in the moments immediately following a bombing in order to bolster a position.
They don’t leave American territories filled with brown skinned people without power for months upon months, after publicly ridiculing their public servants and questioning their people’s resolve.
They don’t pull children from the arms of their parents and place them in cages and detention centers.
They don’t erase protections for the water and the air, for the elderly, the terminally ill, the LGBTQ.
They don’t take away healthcare from the sick and the poor without an alternative.
They don’t gouge the working poor and shelter the wealthy.
They don’t abuse their unrivaled platform to Twitter-bait world leaders and to taunt private citizens.
Good people don’t prey upon the vulnerable, they don’t leverage their power to bully dissenters, and they don’t campaign for sexual predators.

But this President is not a good human being, and there’s simply no way around this truth.

He is the ugliest personification of the Ugly American, which is why, as long as he is here and as long as he represents this nation, we will be a fractured mess and a global embarrassment. He will be the ever lowering bar of our legacy in the world.

And what is painfully obvious in these moments, isn’t simply that the person alleging to lead this country is a terrible human being—it is that anyone left still defending him, applauding him, justifying him, amening him, probably is too.

At this point, the only reason left to support this President, is that he reflects your hateful heart; he shares your contempt of people of color, your hostility toward outsiders, your ignorant bigotry, your feeling of supremacy.

A white President calling countries filled with people of color shitholes, is so far beyond the pale, so beneath decency, and so blatantly racist that it shouldn’t merit conversation. It should be universally condemned. Humanity should be in agreement in abhorring it.

And yet today (like so many other seemingly rock bottom days in the past twelve months) they will be out there: white people claiming to be good people and Christian people, who will make excuses for him or debate his motives or diminish the damage. 

They will dig their heels in to explain away or to defend, what at the end of the day is simply a bad human being saying the things that bad human beings say because their hearts harbor very bad things.

No, good people don’t call countries filled with beautiful, creative, loving men and women shitholes or do most of the horrible things he does.

And good people don’t defend people who do.

You’re going to have to make a choice here.

https://johnpavlovitz.com/2018/01/12/good-people-dont-defend-bad-man/

Made me sad and angry reading this.
How low have people stooped that they voted and continue to support this germ.
I personally have cut someone off from my life because of his support for Trump.

I have too. I had a friend - a Canadian non-white person no less - who lost his mind and basically became a Trump troll for some reason. I tried to deal with it for a while, but he just got worse and worse, started digging his heels in, and even started getting in arguments with stangers in bars about it and shit. I finally just had to cut him off. Blocked him on facebook, got rid of his contact info. He basically just made the decision to be "the asshole". I think he gets off on it. I don't need that kind of idiocy in my life.

so your "friend" didn't agree with people at a bar and they were arguing with him. take your time and read that over. 
Your "friend doesn't agree with your politics as much as you don't agree with his but he didn't unfriend you. you unfriended him. 
Like I always say, liberals want everyone to be free to believe whatever they want as long as you believe exactly as they believe. 
I think your "friend" is lucky.

Wow!    You slipped in that "liberals want everything free" thing?    Wow! 

Liberals want their form of freedom which is agree to their view or be gone. Only the extremists can't see that freedom means free to have different views. 

Meanwhile, back here in reality, your POTUS calls any negative news about him, or any news that doesn't blindly serve his agenda, as "fake news" and dismisses it... while you applaud & cheer

Nice try though

And calls the press, “enemies of the people.”

josevolution

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b5cff5ae4b0b15aba997304
ok lol 

LongestRoad

my2hands said:

LongestRoad said:

brianlux said:

LongestRoad said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

vaggar99 said:

Good People Don’t Defend A Bad Man

January 12, 2018 / John Pavlovitz

At times in this life it can be a challenge to figure out who the bad people are, but sometimes they help you.

Sometimes they do the work for you.

Sometimes with their every vulgar, bitter word from their mouth, they testify to their personal malignancy and they make it easy to identify them.

Generally speaking, there are things that good people do and things good people don’t do.

Good people don’t refer to entire countries as “shitholes”—most notably countries that have given birth to our very humanity; ones that for hundreds of years have been colonized and poached and mined of their riches by powerful white men; countries whose people have been enslaved and sold and forced to come and build your country. 

Good people by any measurement we might use—simply don’t say such things.

Of course good people also don’t say they could grab women by the genitalia, either.
They don’t defend racists and nazis and call them “fine people,” days after murdering a young girl and terrorizing an American city.
They don’t brag about their penis size during debates, or suggest protestors at campaign rallies should be roughed up, or crack jokes about captured war heroes, or make fun of the physically disabled.
They don’t.

Good people don’t tweet anti-Muslim rhetoric in the moments immediately following a bombing in order to bolster a position.
They don’t leave American territories filled with brown skinned people without power for months upon months, after publicly ridiculing their public servants and questioning their people’s resolve.
They don’t pull children from the arms of their parents and place them in cages and detention centers.
They don’t erase protections for the water and the air, for the elderly, the terminally ill, the LGBTQ.
They don’t take away healthcare from the sick and the poor without an alternative.
They don’t gouge the working poor and shelter the wealthy.
They don’t abuse their unrivaled platform to Twitter-bait world leaders and to taunt private citizens.
Good people don’t prey upon the vulnerable, they don’t leverage their power to bully dissenters, and they don’t campaign for sexual predators.

But this President is not a good human being, and there’s simply no way around this truth.

He is the ugliest personification of the Ugly American, which is why, as long as he is here and as long as he represents this nation, we will be a fractured mess and a global embarrassment. He will be the ever lowering bar of our legacy in the world.

And what is painfully obvious in these moments, isn’t simply that the person alleging to lead this country is a terrible human being—it is that anyone left still defending him, applauding him, justifying him, amening him, probably is too.

At this point, the only reason left to support this President, is that he reflects your hateful heart; he shares your contempt of people of color, your hostility toward outsiders, your ignorant bigotry, your feeling of supremacy.

A white President calling countries filled with people of color shitholes, is so far beyond the pale, so beneath decency, and so blatantly racist that it shouldn’t merit conversation. It should be universally condemned. Humanity should be in agreement in abhorring it.

And yet today (like so many other seemingly rock bottom days in the past twelve months) they will be out there: white people claiming to be good people and Christian people, who will make excuses for him or debate his motives or diminish the damage. 

They will dig their heels in to explain away or to defend, what at the end of the day is simply a bad human being saying the things that bad human beings say because their hearts harbor very bad things.

No, good people don’t call countries filled with beautiful, creative, loving men and women shitholes or do most of the horrible things he does.

And good people don’t defend people who do.

You’re going to have to make a choice here.

https://johnpavlovitz.com/2018/01/12/good-people-dont-defend-bad-man/

Made me sad and angry reading this.
How low have people stooped that they voted and continue to support this germ.
I personally have cut someone off from my life because of his support for Trump.

I have too. I had a friend - a Canadian non-white person no less - who lost his mind and basically became a Trump troll for some reason. I tried to deal with it for a while, but he just got worse and worse, started digging his heels in, and even started getting in arguments with stangers in bars about it and shit. I finally just had to cut him off. Blocked him on facebook, got rid of his contact info. He basically just made the decision to be "the asshole". I think he gets off on it. I don't need that kind of idiocy in my life.

so your "friend" didn't agree with people at a bar and they were arguing with him. take your time and read that over. 
Your "friend doesn't agree with your politics as much as you don't agree with his but he didn't unfriend you. you unfriended him. 
Like I always say, liberals want everyone to be free to believe whatever they want as long as you believe exactly as they believe. 
I think your "friend" is lucky.

Wow!    You slipped in that "liberals want everything free" thing?    Wow! 

Liberals want their form of freedom which is agree to their view or be gone. Only the extremists can't see that freedom means free to have different views. 

Meanwhile, back here in reality, your POTUS calls any negative news about him, or any news that doesn't blindly serve his agenda, as "fake news" and dismisses it... while you applaud & cheer

Nice try though

Unless your living in another country, he's your POTUS too. I don't applaud and cheer the negative. Some is accurate news, some is fake news. Trump has done some good for this country. You can't deny. I think he needs to tighten up on the epa issues a bit more. He needs to make changes to the immigration policy but not to the point that allows drugs and traffickers in with ease. I can see  good points made from both parties. There are also extremes with each that I don't agree with. 

Smellyman

Oh, I could deny.  What good has he done?

Thirty Bills Unpaid

LongestRoad said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

LongestRoad said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

vaggar99 said:

Good People Don’t Defend A Bad Man

January 12, 2018 / John Pavlovitz

At times in this life it can be a challenge to figure out who the bad people are, but sometimes they help you.

Sometimes they do the work for you.

Sometimes with their every vulgar, bitter word from their mouth, they testify to their personal malignancy and they make it easy to identify them.

Generally speaking, there are things that good people do and things good people don’t do.

Good people don’t refer to entire countries as “shitholes”—most notably countries that have given birth to our very humanity; ones that for hundreds of years have been colonized and poached and mined of their riches by powerful white men; countries whose people have been enslaved and sold and forced to come and build your country. 

Good people by any measurement we might use—simply don’t say such things.

Of course good people also don’t say they could grab women by the genitalia, either.
They don’t defend racists and nazis and call them “fine people,” days after murdering a young girl and terrorizing an American city.
They don’t brag about their penis size during debates, or suggest protestors at campaign rallies should be roughed up, or crack jokes about captured war heroes, or make fun of the physically disabled.
They don’t.

Good people don’t tweet anti-Muslim rhetoric in the moments immediately following a bombing in order to bolster a position.
They don’t leave American territories filled with brown skinned people without power for months upon months, after publicly ridiculing their public servants and questioning their people’s resolve.
They don’t pull children from the arms of their parents and place them in cages and detention centers.
They don’t erase protections for the water and the air, for the elderly, the terminally ill, the LGBTQ.
They don’t take away healthcare from the sick and the poor without an alternative.
They don’t gouge the working poor and shelter the wealthy.
They don’t abuse their unrivaled platform to Twitter-bait world leaders and to taunt private citizens.
Good people don’t prey upon the vulnerable, they don’t leverage their power to bully dissenters, and they don’t campaign for sexual predators.

But this President is not a good human being, and there’s simply no way around this truth.

He is the ugliest personification of the Ugly American, which is why, as long as he is here and as long as he represents this nation, we will be a fractured mess and a global embarrassment. He will be the ever lowering bar of our legacy in the world.

And what is painfully obvious in these moments, isn’t simply that the person alleging to lead this country is a terrible human being—it is that anyone left still defending him, applauding him, justifying him, amening him, probably is too.

At this point, the only reason left to support this President, is that he reflects your hateful heart; he shares your contempt of people of color, your hostility toward outsiders, your ignorant bigotry, your feeling of supremacy.

A white President calling countries filled with people of color shitholes, is so far beyond the pale, so beneath decency, and so blatantly racist that it shouldn’t merit conversation. It should be universally condemned. Humanity should be in agreement in abhorring it.

And yet today (like so many other seemingly rock bottom days in the past twelve months) they will be out there: white people claiming to be good people and Christian people, who will make excuses for him or debate his motives or diminish the damage. 

They will dig their heels in to explain away or to defend, what at the end of the day is simply a bad human being saying the things that bad human beings say because their hearts harbor very bad things.

No, good people don’t call countries filled with beautiful, creative, loving men and women shitholes or do most of the horrible things he does.

And good people don’t defend people who do.

You’re going to have to make a choice here.

https://johnpavlovitz.com/2018/01/12/good-people-dont-defend-bad-man/

Made me sad and angry reading this.
How low have people stooped that they voted and continue to support this germ.
I personally have cut someone off from my life because of his support for Trump.

I have too. I had a friend - a Canadian non-white person no less - who lost his mind and basically became a Trump troll for some reason. I tried to deal with it for a while, but he just got worse and worse, started digging his heels in, and even started getting in arguments with stangers in bars about it and shit. I finally just had to cut him off. Blocked him on facebook, got rid of his contact info. He basically just made the decision to be "the asshole". I think he gets off on it. I don't need that kind of idiocy in my life.

so your "friend" didn't agree with people at a bar and they were arguing with him. take your time and read that over. 
Your "friend doesn't agree with your politics as much as you don't agree with his but he didn't unfriend you. you unfriended him. 
Like I always say, liberals want everyone to be free to believe whatever they want as long as you believe exactly as they believe. 
I think your "friend" is lucky.

Yah.

Take your time and think about this.

Her friend proved he was a loser when he began spouting garbage that made him unlikeable. Politics are one thing... hatred and ignorance are a whole other.

I must have missed the part with the ignorance and hatred in it. I only see wording like digging in etc. I don't see specifics. 

If her friend is defending Trump in any capacity... her friend is spewing hatred and ignorance. This was a given.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

When world leaders meet with other world leaders, they have several people there that record everything that is said. Then world leaders sign off on what has been recorded. This is how that type of business is done.

This f**king idiot has a closed door, one on one meeting with Putin- the leader of the country's biggest opponent and a man strongly suspected of having compromising material on Donald. And this doesn't alarm everyone? 

If no other time did it... this moment was where the wind should have left his enthusiasts' sails. But no. They make really lame excuses, deflect from the incident and stand behind him regardless. They are as fraudulent as he is. It'd be a cosmic joke if it wasn't an epic tragedy.

Stupidity has no depths.