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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,094
    mrussel1 said:
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    Tiki said:

    Nice to see I'm not the only one still using Winamp. I use the old-school skin though. All these years later, it still whips the llama's ass. 
    Ha, I used to love Winamp.  Although I'm a huge supporter of JRiver Media now.  It's a great media organizer and generic DLNA server.  Winamp was the best for years but the lack of support now and DLNA makes it too obsolete.  
    Yeah surprisingly, despite the lack of support, it gets done all I need to. No problems with making playlists or anything like that. And I run a PJ bootleg blog (http://wegotshit.blogspot.com) and still use Winamp to change tags and do whatever else I need to do. It's funny though, I had a friend over a few weeks ago and when he saw that I had the old black and green winamp skin opened on my computer, he's like "Dude...winamp? Do you still use AOL too?"
    well there aren't many choices, honestly.  You have Winamp, JRiver, maybe the monkey site and Foobar.  You can't use VLC because that's unusable for audio, IMO.  And sure as hell can't use Itunes because that's the bane of all things righteous. For your application, I think it makes perfect sense.  And I am familiar with your boot site, I've referenced it from time to time when working on a video project.  It's nicely done and a good resource.  
    Thanks. I've kind of run out of things to post so now it's just a matter of keeping all the links active so it can be a resource for anyone looking for pre-2000 bootlegs and some compilations. 

    You're absolutely right about VLC. I only use that for videos. And iTunes is the worst. I use an application called CopyTrans for adding and removing songs from my iPhone, and backing up my phone. It works great. 
    I still don't understand itunes... Don't understand why I just can't drag and drop my pictures to my computer or get music on my phone. Get angry and need to google everytime I start that damn app.

    I need to get rid of my Iphone SE and get an android... 
    I learned how to some time ago. you have to close the app that is prompting you to import your photos for you, and just go into your actual iphone icon on your side menu bar and drill down into the photos folder. copy and paste from there. 
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,752

    He may be a crooked demagogue, but he can be funny sometimes.  Referring to himself as "Your all time favorite duly elected President, me!" is master-level trolling of the people that get triggered by him. 
    Funny really i don’t find anything funny about a vile human , I mean he’s not a good guy right ? 
    I mean, that tweet in particular is one of the least funny things he's ever said. His anti-media propaganda is probably the most dangerous thing that he does, followed closely by this Dem witch hunt nonsense. He is a fucking menace to society, and this tweet wraps that fact up in a bow.
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,786
    A vile menace to society. 
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    RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,152
    edited March 2019
    benjs said:

    House vote to stop Trump's border plan unlikely to succeed


    https://apple.news/AHR4unoRIRBK8OlJ0kNvyMg

    Hell yeah-  saw that the pentagon released 1 billion and they’re building 57 miles of it near Yuma and El Paso.  Good stuff.  The media was focused on the mueller waste of time but 5000 illegal immigrants were stopped this past weekend alone. It’s out of control.  In San Antonio ice just drops off these people at these bus stops after they’ve been detained near churches and they can’t feed or clothe them because they’re out of supplies and overflowing with people.  The diseases are worrisome as very few of them are vaccinated at all.
    Don't forget that the number of undocumented immigrants that ICE detains doesn't correlate with the number of undocumented immigrants coming into the US at any given time - it only correlates with the amount of energy they've been instructed to spend to detain persons. If Trump had said "ease back a bit", they'd have picked up less than 5000. What you're seeing does not mean a problem is getting worse - it means your President is tolerating less.

    I'm not opposed to building the wall from a moral perspective - a country truly is entitled to fortify its borders if it chooses - but I find it short-sighted, and unnecessary (along with the things that come with it - the perceived cruelty, the real divide, the logistical challenges with a major trade partner, the increase in processing needs per border crossing and thus potential for bottleneck, and the cost of the thing, for no truly indicated or expected results).

    I also think from a purely economic perspective, it's been understood for some time now that the jobs occupied by undocumented immigrants have effectively established a new market value for that labour, because they take the work that US citizens never wanted, and do it at a price US citizens deem beneath them. This means that if that influx disappears, businesses have to bear a newly increased cost for the labour. Businesses don't typically accept increased costs for labour - instead, they hire less, ask more of current employees, and have clients subsidize these realities with increased prices.

    Putting all of these together, I think it's likely that the lasting legacy of a wall will be exploitation of the Mexican government (just like applying sanctions, it's another great way to restrict a country's global power while exerting your own, and gain trade negotiating leverage), the de-weaving of the social fabric with respect to US-Mexican cultural exchanges, security risks (when you threaten an entire neighbouring country's livelihood and escape route to safety, you should expect this), a less powerful internal economy where businesses act more frugally (as discussed above), a more expensive life with respect to consumer products, busier borders making trade more difficult.

    Like I said, morally, if Trump wants to do this, he can, but he should know that he will own the costs and not just the benefits he perceives of this. You should know the costs too - and you should be concerned (whether you want this or not) that Trump doesn't want to talk about them.
    You know, I (and many others) have been beating this drum for the longest time that wall proponents simply don't get: the effect this will have on the economy as a whole and their own wallets, specifically. 

    -illegal immigrants are working in fields and construction sites for pennies on the dollar
    -americans make more than those wages on welfare

    They are not taking your jobs. americans are giving them to them. 
    costs will inevitably increase substantially, and then all the wall bangers will be pissing and moaning about paying $3 an apple and thousands more for renos on their house. 

    these issues don't matter to the people on the Hill. they can afford these increases. they are using your own fear and racist tendencies against what's actually best for you. 
    You guys are both correct, I’m sure.  I am for obeying the law, though, and illegal is illegal.  If they go through the system then I have no problem with it at all.  It’s not the people I have a problem with, it’s the fact that it’s not lawful.  I’ve said it before, but even my employees who are from Mexico (some on visas and some are citizens) are against it because they did it lawfully.  They don’t like the fact that  some get to break the rules while they followed them.  It has nothing to do with race for me, I don’t care if they’re from Sweden or Russia or China or Mars, we just don’t have a problemhappening on any of our other borders, just the one with Mexico.

    as for the economics, I defer to the pros on that- I’m not bothered if I have to spend more money because we enforce our laws.  That’s the way it is and we’ll change our spending habits to adapt.  Here in austin the construction guys are creating chaos because the city is growing so big- so
    many undocumented guys are just leaving one site for another that will pay more in cash per day (in the middle of their shift no less,) that it’s delaying construction projects by months in some cases.  You’re right, they’re the ones who want those jobs.  I think if they were legal they’d still want those jobs though, so I’m not sure I fully get the argument that there would be no one to
    fill certain jobs.  There would be, they’d just be legal

    just don’t get why following laws makes people so uncomfortable 
    We absolutely have a problem on the "other borders".
    Tens of thousands of people come in via airports all over the country every day and overstay their visas by years and decades. But the right doesn't care  about them for 2 main reasons....
    1. They tend to be caucasian
    2. The right (politicians and right  wing media)is stoking fears about the southern border.

    And just to be clear....as a leftist socialist liberal Democrat I want people to follow the rule of law and do things legally and safely. I, and most like me do not want, and have never called for, open borders.

    There is no more "southern border invasion " now then there was 5 or 10 or 25 years ago.
    Just people trying to stoke fear and garner votes.
    Just wanted to post this because we absolutely DO have a serious crisis at our southern border, whether it’s your political leanings that make you deny it or not.  This is frightening shit:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/national/us-has-hit-breaking-point-at-border-amid-immigration-surge-customs-and-border-protection-commissioner-says/2019/03/27/d2014068-5093-11e9-af35-1fb9615010d7_story.html

    From the article “McAleenan’s statements reflect the growing desperation among Homeland Security officials faced with a border influx that is on pace to be the largest in more than a decade, led by Guatemalan and Honduran asylum seekers who arrive with children and surrender to U.S. agents. McAleenan said his agency currently has more than 13,000 migrants in its custody.”

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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,752
    Definitely you do. Unfortunately, Trump is spending all his time and directing all his energy towards that stupid fucking wall thing instead of dealing with the crisis.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,982
    Drain the swamp? Yea right, suckers. Nice vetting still going on. And never mind he’s an idiot.

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,982
    “I am the ‘most innocent’ human being.” WTF?? Completely and fully delusional.

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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,512
    edited March 2019
    Here is @BS44325 favorite president (MAGA etc) pretty much saying he wants to shoot immigrants.




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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,027
    edited March 2019
    real traitor Steve Bannon was on AC360 last night.  He's the architect of this entire goddamn mess.

    marginalia...what a POS

    https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1111069342798614530

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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,457
    Worst human to ever occupy the WH , Barr is a fat fuck who is complicit in the coverup and he wants to squash any investigation into the Baffoon , who here is ok with the Baffoon becoming a dictator which one of you so called patriots are ok with this ? 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,982
    Tiki said:
    real traitor Steve Bannon was on AC360 last night.  He's the architect of this entire goddamn mess.

    marginalia...what a POS

    https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1111069342798614530

    Team Trump Treason is going to go “full animal.” What a POS and now he, “wants to get back to the important work.”  He’s a traitor.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,457
    Tiki said:
    real traitor Steve Bannon was on AC360 last night.  He's the architect of this entire goddamn mess.

    marginalia...what a POS

    https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1111069342798614530

    Team Trump Treason is going to go “full animal.” What a POS and now he, “wants to get back to the important work.”  He’s a traitor.
    GOP is responsible for this idiot ! 
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,027
    Run by Steve Bannon, Cambridge Analytica hired and coordinated with Russians. 
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,027
    you know, because he's a REAL traitor

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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    The constant hand wringing in this thread is hilarious lol
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,457
    my2hands said:
    The constant hand wringing in this thread is hilarious lol
    Yes but I’d rather be part of the resistance than to sit on my couch and do zilch about where this country is headed , I’ll ask you are you ok with AG covering up for the Baffoon and are you ok with Barr wanting to squash any ongoing investigations of the Baffoon? 
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    my2hands said:
    The constant hand wringing in this thread is hilarious lol
    Yes but I’d rather be part of the resistance than to sit on my couch and do zilch about where this country is headed , I’ll ask you are you ok with AG covering up for the Baffoon and are you ok with Barr wanting to squash any ongoing investigations of the Baffoon? 
    What do you think Jose?

    Do you think calling Barr fatass and fat boy repeatedly like we're back in elementary school is going to be effective for "the resistance" and make the report magically show up? Lol
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited March 2019
    Might help the democrats in 2020 if the 50 investigations into Big Don were squashed, unless they come up with something really good and a smoking gun.... i just dont think people are going to care about tax issues and shady real estate dealings... maybe if the media and intelligence services didn't hype up collusion and the puppet myth, but after all the hype that is where the bar is currently at, anything short of pictures of him giving Putin a handjob might just strengthen him in 2020....

    Investigate away, but you better come up with something good or it could backfire
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,457
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    The constant hand wringing in this thread is hilarious lol
    Yes but I’d rather be part of the resistance than to sit on my couch and do zilch about where this country is headed , I’ll ask you are you ok with AG covering up for the Baffoon and are you ok with Barr wanting to squash any ongoing investigations of the Baffoon? 
    What do you think Jose?

    Do you think calling Barr fatass and fat boy repeatedly like we're back in elementary school is going to be effective for "the resistance" and make the report magically show up? Lol
    You didn’t answer my ?s , yeah I can call him that I’m on a forum of a rock bands I’m sure no one in his camp is looking at me and stating “ you see they are calling you names don’t give in “ I’m a nobody in this giant ocean ...
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,786
    edited March 2019
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    The constant hand wringing in this thread is hilarious lol
    Yes but I’d rather be part of the resistance than to sit on my couch and do zilch about where this country is headed , I’ll ask you are you ok with AG covering up for the Baffoon and are you ok with Barr wanting to squash any ongoing investigations of the Baffoon? 
    What do you think Jose?

    Do you think calling Barr fatass and fat boy repeatedly like we're back in elementary school is going to be effective for "the resistance" and make the report magically show up? Lol
    You didn’t answer my ?s , yeah I can call him that I’m on a forum of a rock bands I’m sure no one in his camp is looking at me and stating “ you see they are calling you names don’t give in “ I’m a nobody in this giant ocean ...
    There's ways to be part of this so-called "resistance" if you really want to. Posting "buffoon" or whatever on an internet forum is doing nothing. Being an Antifa maniac is going too far. So really all there is in the middle is to vote against him, and encourage others to. And by "encourage others to," I don't mean constantly posting that Trump's "vile and the worst person to occupy the white house" on this forum.  You can volunteer for the campaign of one of the democratic candidates. My aunt worked for Hillary in northeastern Pennsylvania in 2016. Do something like that. Because complaining about Trump on this forum is tantamount to, as you put it, "sitting on your couch and doing zilch." 
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,839
    It’s a thread about Donald Trump.  Hand-wringing about all the awful things the administration is doing makes sense.
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,786
    Man I miss the days of having Pearl Jam stuff to talk about on this forum. Other than Trump and the Phillies, there's not much to talk about for me on here. And frankly, I mainly only talk Trump to pass time between writing reports at work. 
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Go Phillies!
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,786
    my2hands said:
    Go Phillies!
    Hell yeah. I have to find a place online to stream the first few innings from work. 
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,027
    my2hands said:
    Might help the democrats in 2020 if the 50 investigations into Big Don were squashed, unless they come up with something really good and a smoking gun.... i just dont think people are going to care about tax issues and shady real estate dealings... maybe if the media and intelligence services didn't hype up collusion and the puppet myth, but after all the hype that is where the bar is currently at, anything short of pictures of him giving Putin a handjob might just strengthen him in 2020....

    Investigate away, but you better come up with something good or it could backfire
    Without investigating ANYTHING, he incites violence.  That shit is illegal.  
    He headed up to MAGAMichigan tonight.  Rile the rubes up...
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,027
    Phillies...HILARIOUS.
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,811
    Tiki said:
    Phillies...HILARIOUS.
    It's still hockey season.... and college basketball for that matter. 
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,027
    Here's a question...Why isn't Don Trump throwing out the first pitch at Nationalists Park today?
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,027
    The National League...HILARIOUS.
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,227
    Tiki said:
    my2hands said:
    Might help the democrats in 2020 if the 50 investigations into Big Don were squashed, unless they come up with something really good and a smoking gun.... i just dont think people are going to care about tax issues and shady real estate dealings... maybe if the media and intelligence services didn't hype up collusion and the puppet myth, but after all the hype that is where the bar is currently at, anything short of pictures of him giving Putin a handjob might just strengthen him in 2020....

    Investigate away, but you better come up with something good or it could backfire
    Without investigating ANYTHING, he incites violence.  That shit is illegal.  
    He headed up to MAGAMichigan tonight.  Rile the rubes up...


    Dems need to protest the Barr coverup
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