So that’s it all done lol we’re good the country is in great shape he’s a great president ? What’s next ?
I don't think very many people thought that this report would come back with a determination that Trump colluded with Russia. That bar is way too high.
I've always hung my hat on financial crimes. That will be Trump's downfall.
The Trump fans that think Trump is exonerated and free and clear today haven't been paying attention.
Anyone that says this was a waste of resources has absolutely zero idea what they are talking about.
Ding ding ding WINNER!!
Yes, exactly. People who say this don't understand the process of investigating.
To continue on with multiple House led investigations, even after Mueller’s report concluded there was no collusion, is a complete waste of resources. I’m no investigative expert (somehow I feel many in here are not either), but this dragged on far too long, looking for something that wasn’t there.
So that’s it all done lol we’re good the country is in great shape he’s a great president ? What’s next ?
I don't think very many people thought that this report would come back with a determination that Trump colluded with Russia. That bar is way too high.
I've always hung my hat on financial crimes. That will be Trump's downfall.
The Trump fans that think Trump is exonerated and free and clear today haven't been paying attention.
This was one investigation of many.
Pretty much by definition
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What a colossal failure of the media. We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting. The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.
Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news. They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.
I wouldn't blame this on the media:
"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice.
"The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."
Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?
To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.
I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged. So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.
So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.
I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed. Please. Keep going. I want to spike more footballs. I am not yet sick of the winning.
I'm happy to see there was no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. I'd wager a guess that Russia did interfere in the election in some ways, and did want Trump to win, but if he wasn't in cahoots with them, that's a good thing.
And yet Team Trump Treason tweets “full exoneration” when his own AG stated in his brief that it didn’t “fully exonorate” him. Seems Team Trump Treason is conflicted.
What a colossal failure of the media. We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting. The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.
Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news. They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.
I wouldn't blame this on the media:
"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice.
"The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."
Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?
To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.
I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged. So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.
So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.
I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed. Please. Keep going. I want to spike more footballs. I am not yet sick of the winning.
So, you don't understand that an obstruction of justice charge refers to the act of obstructing an ongoing investigation, and not whether anyone is guilty of the original charge? That's unfortunate.
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I'm happy to see there was no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. I'd wager a guess that Russia did interfere in the election in some ways, and did want Trump to win, but if he wasn't in cahoots with them, that's a good thing.
What a colossal failure of the media. We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting. The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.
Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news. They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.
I wouldn't blame this on the media:
"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice.
"The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."
Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?
To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.
I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged. So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.
So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.
I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed.
What has finding evidence to a crime or not to do with the investigation of a crime. and the obstruction of that investigation?
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What a colossal failure of the media. We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting. The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.
Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news. They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.
I wouldn't blame this on the media:
"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice.
"The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."
Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?
To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.
I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged. So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.
So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.
I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed. Please. Keep going. I want to spike more footballs. I am not yet sick of the winning.
You act like you know everything, so please enlighten us. Seriously. I can't take the Barr/Rosenstein summary as the end of the road...because everyone should understand that it is NOT the end of the road. Yet you seem to pounce and celebrate. If this is "winning"...I don't want to win.
Again, please explain the full report to us when you get a chance. Oh wait...it hasn't been released yet. And chances are that it never will be fully released.
One follow up question.... Is this the only investigation? Just curious.
What a colossal failure of the media. We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting. The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.
Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news. They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.
I wouldn't blame this on the media:
"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice.
"The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."
Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?
To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.
I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged. So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.
So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.
I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed. Please. Keep going. I want to spike more footballs. I am not yet sick of the winning.
In a four-page letter to Congress, Attorney General William Barr said Mueller's report "does not exonerate" the president on obstruction and instead "sets out evidence on both sides of the question."
Well, Barr says it. I guess he would know. He's the only one who's read the report.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
What a colossal failure of the media. We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting. The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.
Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news. They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.
I wouldn't blame this on the media:
"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice.
"The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."
Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?
To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.
I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged. So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.
So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.
I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed. Please. Keep going. I want to spike more footballs. I am not yet sick of the winning.
What a colossal failure of the media. We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting. The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.
Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news. They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.
I wouldn't blame this on the media:
"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice.
"The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."
Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?
To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.
I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged. So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.
So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.
I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed. Please. Keep going. I want to spike more footballs. I am not yet sick of the winning.
In a four-page letter to Congress, Attorney General William Barr said Mueller's report "does not exonerate" the president on obstruction and instead "sets out evidence on both sides of the question."
Well, Barr says it. I guess he would know. He's the only one who's read the report.
Barr is quoting Muller when he says that the report doesn't exonerate Trump. It's not Barr's opinion.
What a colossal failure of the media. We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting. The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.
Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news. They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.
I wouldn't blame this on the media:
"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice.
"The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."
Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?
To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.
I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged. So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.
So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.
I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed. Please. Keep going. I want to spike more footballs. I am not yet sick of the winning.
In a four-page letter to Congress, Attorney General William Barr said Mueller's report "does not exonerate" the president on obstruction and instead "sets out evidence on both sides of the question."
Well, Barr says it. I guess he would know. He's the only one who's read the report.
Barr is quoting Muller when he says that the report doesn't exonerate Trump. It's not Barr's opinion.
I know that. He’s the only source of that information at present, though.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
What a colossal failure of the media. We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting. The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.
Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news. They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.
I wouldn't blame this on the media:
"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice.
"The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."
Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?
To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.
I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged. So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.
So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.
I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed. Please. Keep going. I want to spike more footballs. I am not yet sick of the winning.
You act like you know everything, so please enlighten us. Seriously. I can't take the Barr/Rosenstein summary as the end of the road...because everyone should understand that it is NOT the end of the road. Yet you seem to pounce and celebrate. If this is "winning"...I don't want to win.
Again, please explain the full report to us when you get a chance. Oh wait...it hasn't been released yet. And chances are that it never will be fully released.
One follow up question.... Is this the only investigation? Just curious.
I do know everything. It is not an act. At some point you will all need to come to grips with that.
What a colossal failure of the media. We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting. The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.
Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news. They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.
I wouldn't blame this on the media:
"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice.
"The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."
Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?
To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.
I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged. So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.
So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.
I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed.
What has finding evidence to a crime or not to do with the investigation of a crime. and the obstruction of that investigation?
They have nothing to with each other. Yet it is still hilarious to watch you all argue that point.
I'm confused as to how Mueller can find no evidence of a Trump/Russia conspiracy, yet won't exonerate him.
From what's been released, Mueller did not find evidence that the campaign "conspired or co-ordinated" with Russia.
Mueller did not exonerate Trump from the completely different issue of obstruction of justice - i.e. whether he acted to interfere in the judicial process in some way. Apparently he saw some evidence for and some against, and leaves it to Barr to decide whether to proceed with obstruction charges.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
What a colossal failure of the media. We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting. The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.
Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news. They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.
I wouldn't blame this on the media:
"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice.
"The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."
Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?
To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.
I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged. So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.
So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.
I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed. Please. Keep going. I want to spike more footballs. I am not yet sick of the winning.
You act like you know everything, so please enlighten us. Seriously. I can't take the Barr/Rosenstein summary as the end of the road...because everyone should understand that it is NOT the end of the road. Yet you seem to pounce and celebrate. If this is "winning"...I don't want to win.
Again, please explain the full report to us when you get a chance. Oh wait...it hasn't been released yet. And chances are that it never will be fully released.
One follow up question.... Is this the only investigation? Just curious.
I do know everything. It is not an act. At some point you will all need to come to grips with that.
But yet, you don't understand what obstruction means.
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I'm confused as to how Mueller can find no evidence of a Trump/Russia conspiracy, yet won't exonerate him.
From what's been released, Mueller did not find evidence that the campaign "conspired or co-ordinated" with Russia.
Mueller did not exonerate Trump from the completely different issue of obstruction of justice - i.e. whether he acted to interfere in the judicial process in some way. Apparently he saw some evidence for and some against, and leaves it to Barr to decide whether to proceed with obstruction charges.
I see. Well I doubt Barr would do that. And really, why bother? Trump is a walking obstruction of justice lol.
What a colossal failure of the media. We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting. The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.
Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news. They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.
I wouldn't blame this on the media:
"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice.
"The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."
Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?
To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.
I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged. So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.
So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.
I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed. Please. Keep going. I want to spike more footballs. I am not yet sick of the winning.
You act like you know everything, so please enlighten us. Seriously. I can't take the Barr/Rosenstein summary as the end of the road...because everyone should understand that it is NOT the end of the road. Yet you seem to pounce and celebrate. If this is "winning"...I don't want to win.
Again, please explain the full report to us when you get a chance. Oh wait...it hasn't been released yet. And chances are that it never will be fully released.
One follow up question.... Is this the only investigation? Just curious.
I do know everything. It is not an act. At some point you will all need to come to grips with that.
Says the guy who still believes the Steele Dossier was the impetus for an investigation into Team Trump Treason and his campaign.
What a colossal failure of the media. We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting. The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.
Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news. They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.
I wouldn't blame this on the media:
"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice.
"The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."
Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?
To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.
I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged. So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.
So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.
I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed. Please. Keep going. I want to spike more footballs. I am not yet sick of the winning.
You act like you know everything, so please enlighten us. Seriously. I can't take the Barr/Rosenstein summary as the end of the road...because everyone should understand that it is NOT the end of the road. Yet you seem to pounce and celebrate. If this is "winning"...I don't want to win.
Again, please explain the full report to us when you get a chance. Oh wait...it hasn't been released yet. And chances are that it never will be fully released.
One follow up question.... Is this the only investigation? Just curious.
I do know everything. It is not an act. At some point you will all need to come to grips with that.
But yet, you don't understand what obstruction means.
Oh I completely understand. Barr and Rosenstein do as well. That is why they put in the report that having committed no crim the obstruction charge does not make sense. But please...all of you...continue. I hope it goes on forever. Bring on the Southern District of New York as well.
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Yes, exactly. People who say this don't understand the process of investigating.
I've always hung my hat on financial crimes. That will be Trump's downfall.
The Trump fans that think Trump is exonerated and free and clear today haven't been paying attention.
This was one investigation of many.
Pretty much by definition
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Again, please explain the full report to us when you get a chance. Oh wait...it hasn't been released yet. And chances are that it never will be fully released.
One follow up question....
Is this the only investigation? Just curious.
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In a four-page letter to Congress, Attorney General William Barr said Mueller's report "does not exonerate" the president on obstruction and instead "sets out evidence on both sides of the question."
Well, Barr says it. I guess he would know. He's the only one who's read the report.
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Mueller did not exonerate Trump from the completely different issue of obstruction of justice - i.e. whether he acted to interfere in the judicial process in some way. Apparently he saw some evidence for and some against, and leaves it to Barr to decide whether to proceed with obstruction charges.
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