Ticket pricing

mcgruff10

100 pounds is equal to $122 usd. You guys really think this is expensive? Maybe it s because I m used to New York metro prices but if my exchange rate is correct I find this to be really cheap.

lolobugg

mcgruff10 said:

100 pounds is equal to $122 usd. You guys really think this is expensive? Maybe it s because I m used to New York metro prices but if my exchange rate is correct I find this to be really cheap.

I don't even know a Republican that has the balls to say that.

mcgruff10

lolobugg said:

mcgruff10 said:

100 pounds is equal to $122 usd. You guys really think this is expensive? Maybe it s because I m used to New York metro prices but if my exchange rate is correct I find this to be really cheap.

I don't even know a Republican that has the balls to say that.

Have you ever been to a broadway play, yankees/rangers/giants game? I mean good seats are well over $100 for pretty much all events.

texasistheSTEVEN

mcgruff10 said:

100 pounds is equal to $122 usd. You guys really think this is expensive? Maybe it s because I m used to New York metro prices but if my exchange rate is correct I find this to be really cheap.

But thats comparative because the pound is weak and the dollar is strong currently.
A few years back the average was about 1.7.

The real price should be about $170-200 and if you factor in that whatever that price is, the last time the same place was played it was $90 I'm sure you can understand why it's shit for a lot of people

lastexit78

Bands can charge whatever want, for me though I go to virtually zero shows now days because of the prices. I once attended 10-15 shows a year. Festival prices are a joke and individual shows are not much behind. I'll splurge for a PJ show anywhere I can get to and I'll catch Eddie if he's in my region. Other than that I'm out. Wanted to see U2 this spring bit I'm not paying $150 for nosebleeds on the secondary market. Wanted to check out the Bottle Rock festival but wasn't willing to pay those ridiculous prices either. Concert prices much like sporting events have gotten to the point of no return. I'll still listen to the music and watch the games but my days of attending this stuff are close to over. At least I saw a lot of great bands and sporting events before prices became comical.

mcgruff10

texasistheSTEVEN said:

mcgruff10 said:

100 pounds is equal to $122 usd. You guys really think this is expensive? Maybe it s because I m used to New York metro prices but if my exchange rate is correct I find this to be really cheap.

But thats comparative because the pound is weak and the dollar is strong currently.
A few years back the average was about 1.7.

The real price should be about $170-200 and if you factor in that whatever that price is, the last time the same place was played it was $90 I'm sure you can understand why it's shit for a lot of people

Yeah I see your point but we're not talking huge amounts of money. Don't buy a few pints this week and there's the difference.
Maybe with this new pricing ev is trying to let more people see his shows and not the same people over and over and over again?

texasistheSTEVEN

mcgruff10 said:

lolobugg said:

mcgruff10 said:

100 pounds is equal to $122 usd. You guys really think this is expensive? Maybe it s because I m used to New York metro prices but if my exchange rate is correct I find this to be really cheap.

I don't even know a Republican that has the balls to say that.

Have you ever been to a broadway play, yankees/rangers/giants game? I mean good seats are well over $100 for pretty much all events.

$100 doesn't equal £100.
You have to see past that.

primussucks

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mcgruff10 said:

lolobugg said:

mcgruff10 said:

100 pounds is equal to $122 usd. You guys really think this is expensive? Maybe it s because I m used to New York metro prices but if my exchange rate is correct I find this to be really cheap.

I don't even know a Republican that has the balls to say that.

Have you ever been to a broadway play, yankees/rangers/giants game? I mean good seats are well over $100 for pretty much all events.

So because everything in new york is over $100 means everyplace else should be over $100?

texasistheSTEVEN

mcgruff10 said:

texasistheSTEVEN said:

mcgruff10 said:

100 pounds is equal to $122 usd. You guys really think this is expensive? Maybe it s because I m used to New York metro prices but if my exchange rate is correct I find this to be really cheap.

But thats comparative because the pound is weak and the dollar is strong currently.
A few years back the average was about 1.7.

The real price should be about $170-200 and if you factor in that whatever that price is, the last time the same place was played it was $90 I'm sure you can understand why it's shit for a lot of people

Yeah I see your point but we're not talking huge amounts of money. Don't buy a few pints this week and there's the difference.
Maybe with this new pricing ev is trying to let more people see his shows and not the same people over and over and over again?

I agree. it's not huge amounts of money in the grand scheme of things.
I can easily afford it. It's the principle thats bugged me

mcgruff10

texasistheSTEVEN said:

mcgruff10 said:

lolobugg said:

mcgruff10 said:

100 pounds is equal to $122 usd. You guys really think this is expensive? Maybe it s because I m used to New York metro prices but if my exchange rate is correct I find this to be really cheap.

I don't even know a Republican that has the balls to say that.

Have you ever been to a broadway play, yankees/rangers/giants game? I mean good seats are well over $100 for pretty much all events.

$100 doesn't equal £100.
You have to see past that.

sorry, $122.402 lol. still, tickets for rangers/yankees/giants/broadway are way more than $122.402.

JimmyV

primussucks said:

Ill also ad that fame and fortune change people. Ed today is a completly different person than Ed of the 1990's.

I've never met Ed. I can't speak to what he was like in the 90's versus what he is like today.

demetrios

Yes it does suck that the ticket prices are high. But if it's the promoters fault on the high cost of ticket prices & not ED then don't spend a single dime on food & beverages @ these arenas. Just go there to support ED. Buy some ED merch & enjoy the show. It's worth it. I've seen 6 EV solo shows back in '08. Worth every penny. Still haven't seen him solo supporting his Ukulele Songs. Someday he'll tour solo supporting that record up here in the North. Someday ..

Merkin Baller

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Bentleyspop said:

I don't believe that anyone has mentioned on here that bands/musicians no longer make any money off of album/music releases.
The money is made from concert ticket sales, merchandise sales, and licensing for movies, tv, and commercials.

A great point, indeed.

Let's also not overlook the fact that these guys are in their 50s now and have young kids at home, they don't want to be on the road 6 months out of the year. Who would? The idea of him doing 36 Euro dates isn't realistic anymore.

This is true but other acts still seem to be able to do it cheaper with the same family situations. PJ haven't spent six months on the road in a very, very long time.

Like whom?

PJ & EV live shows are in high demand, I would be interested to hear of other acts that are as in demand charging less.

Iron Maiden, U2, GNR. Dave Matthews band are playing Hammersmith at around £60 a ticket. U2 and GNR are bigger acts than PJ and EV, Iron maiden probably are as well. Dave Matthews band i included as they are playing the same venue and have a whole band to account for along with associated costs. They are certainly on a par with EV at least although imagine they are probably a bigger act. Not sure how they would compare to PJ though.

Ed Sheeran one of the biggest tours to sell in recent times is only £77 a ticket. i could go on but you get the picture.

And PJ, as yet, haven't ripped off their UK fans.

Wow, 60 euro for that festival is amazing, and you folks are paying better prices than we are. I just paid $119 after fees for a single night at Boston Calling.

What are U2 & GnR charging for their solo shows? Last year GnR prices in the US were insane to start, but when sales faltered they started dropping.

Based on your post though, it looks like Euro concerts are cheaper than in the US.

UK concerts are way cheaper than the US but the gap is closing as you can see. Some acts are forcing the prices up and others are following them. Too many people are now being priced out. Even some of the smaller gigs that were £25/30 a few years ago are now hitting the £50/60 mark.

U2 is £78 standing. Seated tickets go from £40 up to £187. i think the upper prices are a rip off but at least you have other options.
GNR is £85 up to £95.
Maiden is about £65 from memory.
Dave Matthews as has been pointed out is not the band but 2 band members and it's £52.

Hold on now, if GnR is 85 - 95, and U2's average price is over 100, then Eddie isn't out of line with the 100 price tag, especially not for a 3-5K seat theater.

I misread your earlier post & thought you were paying around 60 Euro for those acts.

Sounds to me like Eddie's shows are priced fairly for the market over there.

Think you're missing the point. Those bands are established high end acts. vedder on his own isn't anywhere close to the size of those bands and U2 and GNR are stadiums gigs. Even though it now appears sites have changed the ticket band pricing for Vedder his top price ticket is still way over priced.

Smaller venues SHOULD cost more - would you rather see him in a 3K seat venue or a 50K seat venue?

We'll find out in a week or two if it's overpriced. If it is, the tickets won't sell.

If it's not, it will sell out quickly.

mcgruff10

texasistheSTEVEN said:

mcgruff10 said:

lolobugg said:

mcgruff10 said:

100 pounds is equal to $122 usd. You guys really think this is expensive? Maybe it s because I m used to New York metro prices but if my exchange rate is correct I find this to be really cheap.

I don't even know a Republican that has the balls to say that.

Have you ever been to a broadway play, yankees/rangers/giants game? I mean good seats are well over $100 for pretty much all events.

$100 doesn't equal £100.
You have to see past that.

I do understand what you are saying since the dollar is strong right now but again to me, not a heck of a lot of money. I'd see him once and be done with it.

ikiT

worth every nickel...

IamTom

lolobugg said:

JimmyV said:

texasistheSTEVEN said:

In London £100 gig tickets are very rare, I think this is the part that people are overlooking.

Big artists in big venues, big artists in small venues, mid level bands in mid levels venues, it's very very rare that £100 is the norm.
Sting is playing the same venue as EV and it's £60.00

You can espouse rhetoric on touring, market forces, the weak pound, brexit, downloads, any number of about 50 other things I've read tonight but the straight fact is that £100 for EV at Hammersmith Apollo is extortion and a rip off.
Notably when it was £50 5 years ago. A 50% markup is chancing of the highest order

If you go I hope you have a lovely time as his solo live he is amazing but at those prices i'll be passing.

Extortion? Good god.

someone needs to look into Ed's ties with Russia

To be leaked any day now

dimitrispearljam

dottles said:

dimitrispearljam said:

ill give u an exable..
im going to dave matyhew -tim reynolds shows at different cities of march- april vienna - prague
same artist,same capacity of venues..same show,same promoter..
one show has 140 euros per tix,the other has 60 euros!!!!
all has to do with the venue and the promoter set prices cos of that..
one is the famous symphonic orchestra plays,kick ass acoustic one of the best in europe..the one ion prague is a normal small theater..
the artist gets the same fee and has nothing to do with the prices
the promoter to book the venue and pay the artist sets the prices so he earl money and not lose,,at one venue price is 140 euros,..the other 60 euros

But Dimitris, you must understand that no matter what the circumstance behind the price increases, be it a promoter or the artist, the issue is that the inflation of ticket prices isn't matched by the inflation in earnings, and the decreases in currency values. Other acts have not increased prices as much, despite using the same promoters.

Take a ticket/tour cost. Roughly 84% of the gross overall cost, after paying taxes and PRS, is carved up between the band and their promoter.

There are fixed expenses such venue hire, stage hands, venue staff, electricians, power, spotlight hire, scaffolding, barriers, catering, public liability insurance (in case anyone is injured at the show), rigging, medical staff, transport etc. Many times the venue will pay for that out of its cut, but that will depend on the particulars of the deal struck.

That can leave anything between 50% and 70% of the gross, but there are no specific rules as to how that is divided between the act and the promoter. A commonly quoted figure is that the promoter will take 15% of what is left and the act will get 85%. But it will depend on if the promoter really has to work to get the show to sell out or if they are pushing on an open door and demand is so high it sells out in seconds. In those instances, the promoter may get as little as 5%; but for arena shows charging $150 or more for tickets, that 5% quickly adds up.

I have seen that you are not travelling to the UK etc as it will cost you more, you didn't on the last PJ tour either - but did in 2010. Prices for all aspects have increased. Just because people express their concern at the ticket prices, and the impact that has on them does not mean that they are wrong to do so or are devaluing the artist.

things are simple,,music intustry works that way..isnt that i like it or not..is fair or not..
is like buy a car..we all may want to buy a ferrari but isnt mean its ferrari problem ,its my problem that i cant afford it..
u cant expect to see eddie vedder with cheap ticket in a cool venue..
i poost above 10c tickets prices of 2014 tour...i paid 50 euros at 2010 to see pj at italy,,yeah,,was a festival in a park..but at san siro..the most epic stadium in europe price was almost triple...
again..same artist,,in one city has 60 euros,,in another better venue..140!!

texasistheSTEVEN

dimitrispearljam said:

dottles said:

dimitrispearljam said:

ill give u an exable..
im going to dave matyhew -tim reynolds shows at different cities of march- april vienna - prague
same artist,same capacity of venues..same show,same promoter..
one show has 140 euros per tix,the other has 60 euros!!!!
all has to do with the venue and the promoter set prices cos of that..
one is the famous symphonic orchestra plays,kick ass acoustic one of the best in europe..the one ion prague is a normal small theater..
the artist gets the same fee and has nothing to do with the prices
the promoter to book the venue and pay the artist sets the prices so he earl money and not lose,,at one venue price is 140 euros,..the other 60 euros

But Dimitris, you must understand that no matter what the circumstance behind the price increases, be it a promoter or the artist, the issue is that the inflation of ticket prices isn't matched by the inflation in earnings, and the decreases in currency values. Other acts have not increased prices as much, despite using the same promoters.

Take a ticket/tour cost. Roughly 84% of the gross overall cost, after paying taxes and PRS, is carved up between the band and their promoter.

There are fixed expenses such venue hire, stage hands, venue staff, electricians, power, spotlight hire, scaffolding, barriers, catering, public liability insurance (in case anyone is injured at the show), rigging, medical staff, transport etc. Many times the venue will pay for that out of its cut, but that will depend on the particulars of the deal struck.

That can leave anything between 50% and 70% of the gross, but there are no specific rules as to how that is divided between the act and the promoter. A commonly quoted figure is that the promoter will take 15% of what is left and the act will get 85%. But it will depend on if the promoter really has to work to get the show to sell out or if they are pushing on an open door and demand is so high it sells out in seconds. In those instances, the promoter may get as little as 5%; but for arena shows charging $150 or more for tickets, that 5% quickly adds up.

I have seen that you are not travelling to the UK etc as it will cost you more, you didn't on the last PJ tour either - but did in 2010. Prices for all aspects have increased. Just because people express their concern at the ticket prices, and the impact that has on them does not mean that they are wrong to do so or are devaluing the artist.

things are simple,,music intustry works that way..isnt that i like it or not..is fair or not..
is like buy a car..we all may want to buy a ferrari but isnt mean its ferrari problem ,its my problem that i cant afford it..
u cant expect to see eddie vedder with cheap ticket in a cool venue..
i poost above 10c tickets prices of 2014 tour...i paid 50 euros at 2010 to see pj at italy,,yeah,,was a festival in a park..but at san siro..the most epic stadium in europe price was almost triple...
again..same artist,,in one city has 60 euros,,in another better venue..140!!

London hammersmith 2012 - £50
London hammersmith 2017 - £100

Same venue, same lineup, same artist.

Clapper

This comes up almost every time that a PJ/EV event is announced. I don't think anyone would argue that that $100 in ANY currency is a nice chunk of someone's hard earned money but people have to be realistic. If you look at any of the top touring acts, PJ/EV pricing is YEARS behind most other big bands. Most of which certainly wouldn't play in the 2.5-5 hours range. Most of them will give you 1.5-2 hours worth of show. PJ/EV are still giving great value. Comparing pricing to tours is in previous years doesn't really work either. Nothing stays the same prices from year to year. As any business sees an increase in their costs, their product pricing increases. Folks also have to factor in all the costs for the tour. Venues, Travel, Hotels, Insurance, Management costs, promoter costs, crew wages, artists cut. All of those things add up, especially with less tickets to sell in small venues. With PJ/EV tickets prices still being behind the others, they are leaving A LOT of money on the table. I don't think its greedy for them to make a substantial amount of money for what they give back to the fans. They charge WAY less than they could. They are entitled to make a fair living for what they do. If they are leaving money on the table and it still prices some fans out of the market, I don't think its fair to say is greedy its just unfortunate circumstances.

Get_Right

I think all this yapping is misplaced anger over the fact that there was no PJ announcement.