Ticket pricing

NewJPage

buck502000 said:

high prices keep the riff raff out - just kidding but not really

See the losers in the best bars...meet the winners in the dives

CantKeepmedown

Did someone say it equals $125 USD? IF he ends up doing a US tour, it'll be a tough decision pulling the trigger on those. $250 (assuming you win lottery) for just tickets is pretty crazy. I wouldn't hesitate paying that for the band, but for just Ed, I'm not so sure. I've seen him 4 times and there's not really any new material (although he did start mixing up sets pretty good back in 2012ish).

For those going to Europe, have a blast!

bootlegger10

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

buck502000 said:

high prices keep the riff raff out - just kidding but not really

That's cold man.
Some fans have to save and save for years to experience their magical night be it EV solo or PJ as a band.
As the prices get higher that savings goal is always out of reach.

And most go to work on Monday and at the end of the day have enough money to pay for the ticket.

PJfanwillneverleave1

bootlegger10 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

buck502000 said:

high prices keep the riff raff out - just kidding but not really

That's cold man.
Some fans have to save and save for years to experience their magical night be it EV solo or PJ as a band.
As the prices get higher that savings goal is always out of reach.

And most go to work on Monday and at the end of the day have enough money to pay for the ticket.

I tried.
The people that strike and march over everything are the ones that can't attend.
I tried.

dimitrispearljam

my2hands said:

Ghost solo at the Greek theater for @dimitrispearljam?

epic!

dimitrispearljam

ll try as short i can to put something in the table..how deals made in music intustry...
ill say one scenario
an artist has a manager..he mades the deal...
lets say an artist has fee 100k to play ..
3 producers wants to book them..so,one offers 100k..second 120k..third.150k...and that the guy gets the deal obviously
now the producer pays 150k to the artist manager..
the manager pays the artist,the crew,the personal security,"the accomontation,-transportation,gear(that last ones,depence the deal) etc
producer lets say pays 30k to book the venue to book ,,pays 20k for promotion..ticket vendor etc..
we have a total 200k cost,,its his money...he put them upfront...what he has to do now?
get his money back with profit..u know how??
by selling tix..
lets say the venue is 2000 seats,,u know how much is the cost of tix just to get his money back?
100 per ticket..now add he has to pay taxis to that...and make a profit...
so the ticket price goes up...and depence the taxes...
well..thats why he will not do a show in greece..for exable..
cos need to pay 24% vat..same time in poland will pay 8%
so a tix at same type of venue ,with say capacity, blah blah in greece for the producer just to take money back will cost 124 euros..at poland 108!!!
now add at the price.....his profit..cos he works for money.......
and a fan sees a prices of 150 euros for a concert tix./and goes nuts..its normal....
and no need to mention the risk,,cos if he doesnt sell out the venue..he is fucked..how u secure that??
well..u put even more up the ticket price..so in case u doint sell out,,u will not lose money...
thats oine siple exable how things works..

icemanap

I've not posted for some time on here but the ticket prices for this have enraged me. I for one am not going to be going to this. On principle £100x2 is a heck of a lot of money in one quick hit. I understand you have to pay security, the venue, the crew, accommodation, etc. I am fine with that. I understand he's not doing this out of the goodness of his heart and he has to make a living, again, it's his job. It will be a great show, it was last time, but a 100% increase in ticket prices from exactly the same show five years ago is taking the piss. When you add on money for food, beer and transport, you are looking at a £300 night out - more if you don't have the luxury of living in London already like I do. I can get a weekend away with my wife in a top hotel with flights for that.

I have wanted to see Ed/PJ again in London for a long time and was delighted to hear he was touring. But I simply can't justify a £300 night out. Yes, it will be amazing, but I am glad I saw the show a few years ago. It's a shame as Pearl Jam and Eddie have long been advocates of making prices fair for genuine fans. All that shouting now seems a little hypocritical to me now.

dimitrispearljam

icemanap said:

I've not posted for some time on here but the ticket prices for this have enraged me. I for one am not going to be going to this. On principle £100x2 is a heck of a lot of money in one quick hit. I understand you have to pay security, the venue, the crew, accommodation, etc. I am fine with that. I understand he's not doing this out of the goodness of his heart and he has to make a living, again, it's his job. It will be a great show, it was last time, but a 100% increase in ticket prices from exactly the same show five years ago is taking the piss. When you add on money for food, beer and transport, you are looking at a £300 night out - more if you don't have the luxury of living in London already like I do. I can get a weekend away with my wife in a top hotel with flights for that.

I have wanted to see Ed/PJ again in London for a long time and was delighted to hear he was touring. But I simply can't justify a £300 night out. Yes, it will be amazing, but I am glad I saw the show a few years ago. It's a shame as Pearl Jam and Eddie have long been advocates of making prices fair for genuine fans. All that shouting now seems a little hypocritical to me now.

good i read this to say something simple...
2012 in my country hotels vat was 6% ,,now its 13%
concert tix was 12%..now its 24%
its how it is..5 years ago a piece of bread was 60 cent of euro,..now its 1 euro
all are up..all cost of life..it sucks..

henchman

No excuses dimi. Chris Cornell played beautiful theatres all around Europe last year and tickets were half the price or less.

EV is playing in arenas with a cheap production, for the price of Tom Waits o Neil Young (on a theatre!).

The prices for this tour are a joke. 11 shows in 30 days is a joke. Skipping Spain (and France, and Portugal) once again is a joke,

dimitrispearljam

henchman said:

No excuses dimi. Chris Cornell played beautiful theatres all around Europe last year and tickets were half the price or less.

EV is playing in arenas with a cheap production, for the price of Tom Waits o Neil Young (on a theatre!).

The prices for this tour are a joke. 11 shows in 30 days is a joke. Skipping Spain (and France, and Portugal) once again is a joke,

well..if u think eddie vedder is the same value as cornel..then i have nothing more to add
if pj plays at the same venue as soundgarden prices will be double..if u2 plays in the same venue will be triple
i believe the shows will be 13 in the end.if some things happens

henchman

I know they don't have the same value. But don't use the price of the theatre as an excuse. Like he has no other option.

If you are staying one month in Europe, play more shows and help the prometers offer cheaper tickets.

mrk2

How is Cornell vs EV different? Both are playing solo acoustic shows with a simple setup. About 2 hour shows with varied setlists. One played beautiful intimate venues and charged less, the other plays 5000-9000 capacity arenas, halls and parks and charges more than double.

100 euros extra for sitting on stone steps of some ancient theater isn't worth it either.

dimitrispearljam

mrk2 said:

How is Cornell vs EV different? Both are playing solo acoustic shows with a simple setup. About 2 hour shows with varied setlists. One played beautiful intimate venues and charged less, the other plays 5000-9000 capacity arenas, halls and parks and charges more than double.

100 euros extra for sitting on stone steps of some ancient theater isn't worth it either.

its different,,like audi and fiat...yeah..are both cars..but not the same cars
pj can sell out stadium of 80 k,,they are different level than soundgarden ..its so simole to understand

dimitrispearljam

henchman said:

I know they don't have the same value. But don't use the price of the theatre as an excuse. Like he has no other option.

If you are staying one month in Europe, play more shows and help the prometers offer cheaper tickets.

all has to do man..all..if ev plays at the same venue as rival sons all is different,,.from security to promition,to artist ,and crew ..all
promoter spent more..sell tickets more expensive..
and nothing to do with how many shows!!..artist has a fee per show..and promnoter will not lose money at some venues and wait to win from others,,he wants to make profit from all
an artsit as ev will sell out all shows he will plan,,promoter knows that,,will not ask more shows to place that he will lose money..huge exable Greece..
i kmnow so many artist want to come,,and will never happen..cos promoter will lose money..
dont u guys see that always play at countries like netherlands,uk and germany??
at spain and portugal and grece and bulgaria will lose money!!!1.thats why there are festivals!!!its a more safe bet to dont lose money

mrk2

What if you like Fiat more than Audi? It gets you places, is small and cosy and down-to-earth.

rock4ever

Get_Right said:

rock4ever said:

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Get_Right said:

Three hours with EV is well worth $150 a person.
Spend three hours with me and it will cost you $1500. And I am nowhere near as talented. And that is with the 10c family discount.

seriously considering your offer, where are you ? hahahahaah

LOL NYC. Where it costs $199 per ticket to take your kid to the lion king-for crappy seats.

NYC ill buy that - saw Mary Poppins on Broadway once - a women asked where I was from I said near Birmingham , she said Alabama ?you've come a long way, after nearly spitting my drink over her, I said your not fucking kidding I'm England not Alabama so about 2500 miles further hahahahaa

Hahaha classic! I am surprised she could not figure that out. I am guessing you dont have a Southern drawl.....:)

No Southern Drawl here - but come on maybe she just didn't get out much or even watch Nashville on TV - Hey Y'all

mrk2

Audis are for ego-centric wankers anyway.

dimitrispearljam

mrk2 said:

What if you like Fiat more than Audi? It gets you places, is small and cosy and down-to-earth.

that doersnt change the fact that audi is MORE EXPENSIVE TO BUY!!!!

rock4ever

IamTom said:

rock4ever said:

Pegasus said:

I could maybe afford it, after a fashion (it's a month worth of bills!), but I refuse on principle. It's pure greed.

bloody hell , can I come and live with you if your bills are £100 a month

If there was a 'like' button I reckon this would have a shot at most liked comment...ever

kevtic

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Bentleyspop said:

I don't believe that anyone has mentioned on here that bands/musicians no longer make any money off of album/music releases.
The money is made from concert ticket sales, merchandise sales, and licensing for movies, tv, and commercials.

A great point, indeed.

Let's also not overlook the fact that these guys are in their 50s now and have young kids at home, they don't want to be on the road 6 months out of the year. Who would? The idea of him doing 36 Euro dates isn't realistic anymore.

This is true but other acts still seem to be able to do it cheaper with the same family situations. PJ haven't spent six months on the road in a very, very long time.

Like whom?

PJ & EV live shows are in high demand, I would be interested to hear of other acts that are as in demand charging less.

Iron Maiden, U2, GNR. Dave Matthews band are playing Hammersmith at around £60 a ticket. U2 and GNR are bigger acts than PJ and EV, Iron maiden probably are as well. Dave Matthews band i included as they are playing the same venue and have a whole band to account for along with associated costs. They are certainly on a par with EV at least although imagine they are probably a bigger act. Not sure how they would compare to PJ though.

Ed Sheeran one of the biggest tours to sell in recent times is only £77 a ticket. i could go on but you get the picture.

And PJ, as yet, haven't ripped off their UK fans.

Wow, 60 euro for that festival is amazing, and you folks are paying better prices than we are. I just paid $119 after fees for a single night at Boston Calling.

What are U2 & GnR charging for their solo shows? Last year GnR prices in the US were insane to start, but when sales faltered they started dropping.

Based on your post though, it looks like Euro concerts are cheaper than in the US.

UK concerts are way cheaper than the US but the gap is closing as you can see. Some acts are forcing the prices up and others are following them. Too many people are now being priced out. Even some of the smaller gigs that were £25/30 a few years ago are now hitting the £50/60 mark.

U2 is £78 standing. Seated tickets go from £40 up to £187. i think the upper prices are a rip off but at least you have other options.
GNR is £85 up to £95.
Maiden is about £65 from memory.
Dave Matthews as has been pointed out is not the band but 2 band members and it's £52.

Hold on now, if GnR is 85 - 95, and U2's average price is over 100, then Eddie isn't out of line with the 100 price tag, especially not for a 3-5K seat theater.

I misread your earlier post & thought you were paying around 60 Euro for those acts.

Sounds to me like Eddie's shows are priced fairly for the market over there.

Think you're missing the point. Those bands are established high end acts. vedder on his own isn't anywhere close to the size of those bands and U2 and GNR are stadiums gigs. Even though it now appears sites have changed the ticket band pricing for Vedder his top price ticket is still way over priced.

Smaller venues SHOULD cost more - would you rather see him in a 3K seat venue or a 50K seat venue?

We'll find out in a week or two if it's overpriced. If it is, the tickets won't sell.

If it's not, it will sell out quickly.

Why should smaller venues cost more? All the costs are lower. Way way lower than the cost for Wembley or Twickenham. I'd prefer to see any band in a 3k venue rather than a 50k. The point is those other bands can sell out 50k venues or bigger. Eddie can't.

I don't doubt the venue will sell out but it doesn't mean it is not overpriced IMO. At the top level ticket price.

Smaller venues should have higher ticket prices because there are fewer tickets to sell and it's a much more intimate & rewarding experience for the consumer. You can argue he wouldn't sell out a bigger venue, and you may be right, but I think most of us would prefer the intimate old timey theaters. (Maybe some would prefer cheaper tickets in a larger venue, which I could understand, I just wouldn't share that preference)

The price hike is a kick in the pants, I can't argue that. But the drastic markup notwithstanding, I don't think the final cost is all that outrageous for 2017, at least not when considering the demand for these shows.

IMO, something is only overpriced if people don't buy it. It may be too expensive for some, but that doesn't mean it's overpriced, not when there are other people willing to pay the price.

Buyers dictate the market, not sellers.

Edit: in fairness, like my2hands, I have no experience w/ the market in the U.K., and the price tag is hard to justify seeing the prices for Sting, but I stick by what I said above...... the buyer dictates the market, not the seller

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. You chose stadium gigs by GNR and U2 as a basis for you thinking the price was fair but you ignored indoor gigs by iron maiden and members of the Dave Matthews band playing the same theatre also for 2 nights with a price of £65 and £52. I personally think that around 370 top price would have been fair. It shouldn't be about squeezing as much as you can from the fans although sadly these days that is exactly what it is.

I guess it just saddens me that i thought Eddie was a bit different to all the rest regarding ticket prices and treating the fans fairly but it appears he's just as greedy as a lot of acts and bands and that kind of hurts after following the band for so long.